Dell 48 Hour Deals: Z-5500 Speakers $280, UltraSharp 2209WA 22" IPS LCD $220, HOT!

[AndrewRFD]

http://merchant.linksynergy.com/fs/banners/3178/3178_10000346.jpg (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=CAqD7bLWUPI&offerid=116095.10000473&type=3&subid=0)

Dell is running another 48 hours of deals from March 4 to 5 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=CAqD7bLWUPI&offerid=116095.10000473&type=3&subid=0). Offers include electronics and computer components, as well as a tab with some Vostro systems. Here's a look at some of the interesting items available:


Logitech Z-5500 5.1 THX Digital Speaker System - $279.99 (Compare Prices (http://www.pricecanada.com/detail.php?product_id=23886&sku=9701150403))
Kingston 4GB 2X4GB 1066MHz DDR2 Non-ECC CL5 (5-5-5-15) DIMM - $69.99
Dell 1110 Laser Printer - $89.00
Logitech MX 3200 Laser Cordless Desktop Bundle - $49.99 $79.99 (Compare Prices (http://www.pricecanada.com/detail.php?product_id=458842&sku=9676880403))
Dell UltraSharp 2209WA 22-inch IPS Black Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor - $219.99


We've seen more ambitious efforts from Dell in the past, but at the very least, there's a deal on the heavily sought out Z-5500 speakers. In today's economy, $279.99 and free shipping counts as a pretty good deal. The UltraSharp 2209WA monitor, which features an IPS panel, is also listed... but not discounted yet. Hopefully something materializes there too! The 2200WA is now the hottest deal by far at $219.99! That's an amazing price for a IPS panel! Shipping is free for all items.

[Keiki]

Hmmm, what's up with all these 48 hour deals now? The days of deals items were much better than what they offer in these 48 hour deals

[lunaris]

cool story, inb4 z5500/sewingmachine/ricecooker/etc.

[Value Hunter]

I forgot to pick up a delivery at the Purolator depot and it's being sent back to Dell. Am I going to be charged a fee?

[mercury4]

I forgot to pick up a delivery at the Purolator depot and it's being sent back to Dell. Am I going to be charged a fee?

Very unlikely!

[Strategy]

Someone explain the sewing machine thing to me!

[drool]

Someone explain the sewing machine thing to me!

Any self respecting nerd needs a sewing machine http://**********************/s/happy.gif

[bokep]

Someone explain the sewing machine thing to me!

It's a very lame joke being perpetuated by the RFD crowd because most people here don't really have much to say... So they continue to make the same old joke over and over again.

Dell put out the outline of a webcam similar to this (might be the same model, don't remember) as part of one of their promotions and it looked like a sewing machine.

http://techdigest.tv/creative_webcam-thumb.jpg

[joongpark]

Does anyone know when the next dell days of sale is going to be?
I am holding off for the sale.

Thanks.

[Value Hunter]

It's a very lame joke being perpetuated by the RFD crowd because most people here don't really have much to say... So they continue to make the same old joke over and over again.

Dell put out the outline of a webcam similar to this (might be the same model, don't remember) as part of one of their promotions and it looked like a sewing machine.

http://techdigest.tv/creative_webcam-thumb.jpg

I knew the sewing machine posts was a running joke but I didn't know the origins of the joke. The webcam does look like a sewing machine. LOL.

[the_fm]

i want the S2209W 22" for $169.99 just like last time. i missed on it >:(

[duckdown]

Wouldn't mind a decent LCD deal, I am regretting not buying that huge LCD for $799 last time

[joongpark]

i want the S2209W 22" for $169.99 just like last time. i missed on it >:(

Actually, you want the 23 inch HD one you missed from the Dell Days of the Sale...I also missed that one and waiting for it again.

[wonderboy]

are they ever gonna have a deal on a pc(without a screen)?

[macuser]

I want a S2209W as well - I missed out last time. I bought one back in December for $189, and a partner to it would be nice :)

[Soulsaber]

Looks like a SP2309W

[MrMom]

Actually, you want the 23 inch HD one you missed from the Dell Days of the Sale...I also missed that one and waiting for it again.

Yeah, bot 2 "22" but they are really only 21.5" and not that much larger than my 20's

[jed]

It's a very lame joke being perpetuated by the RFD crowd because most people here don't really have much to say... So they continue to make the same old joke over and over again.

Dell put out the outline of a webcam similar to this (might be the same model, don't remember) as part of one of their promotions and it looked like a sewing machine.

http://techdigest.tv/creative_webcam-thumb.jpg

Ah but lameness is in the eye of the beholder. The mere fact that it continues, says much.;)

Heres hoping for some decent deals.

[drool]

It's a very lame joke being perpetuated by the RFD crowd because most people here don't really have much to say... So they continue to make the same old joke over and over again.

Dell put out the outline of a webcam similar to this (might be the same model, don't remember) as part of one of their promotions and it looked like a sewing machine.

http://techdigest.tv/creative_webcam-thumb.jpg

You've just reinforced the sewing machine joke, now more people will post it

[davesaudio]

i want the S2209W 22" for $169.99 just like last time. i missed on it >:(

Yes, most happy with mine

[tet8suo]

cool! that's tomorrow morning :cool:

[Vinnyfast]

Actually, you want the 23 inch HD one you missed from the Dell Days of the Sale...I also missed that one and waiting for it again.

I got one, and it's one sweet monitor!...don't think the $ can be beat!

[way2quik]

Hoping for a laptop.
Come on DELL!!!!

[bellboy26]

Can the s2309w be used at a tv easily enough?

[shadowsteve]

I forgot to pick up a delivery at the Purolator depot and it's being sent back to Dell. Am I going to be charged a fee?

Shouldn't. I tried to cancel and order from Dell but it had already gone out. They told me to accept and then call to have it picked up but said I could just refuse/ignore the delivery and it would end up back there anyway. The latter just takes longer to get you your credit.

[hugewallet]

Can the s2309w be used at a tv easily enough?


same question here. you need a tv tuner on your computer first.

[hugewallet]

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=320-7345&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=BF&cid=7421&lid=197378&acd=10549103-889052-

can be this one. wondering what deal dell canada will be giving us.

US DELL just puts it up on sale for $224.

Dell Small Business has Dell S2409W 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Full HD Monitor for $349 - $100 instant off - 10% off coupon code 2J0TX0Z5NW22MB = $224 with free shipping. [Comments]
Specs: 5ms, 1920 x 1080, HDMI + DVI with HDCP + VGA, 3 year warranty

[JoeyB]

Looking for a OCZ GameXStream 700 watt with an 8 pin 12 volt connector for my new MA790X-UD4 :D

[Tornado F2]

Actually, you want the 23 inch HD one you missed from the Dell Days of the Sale...I also missed that one and waiting for it again.

I got one of those. It's been hooked up to my X360 ever since it arrived. I could do with a 2nd one to hook up to my PC.

[Formula1]

Pretty much computer components on this sale.

[MACMAC]

Great a bunch of OOS stuff and a terrific new monitor without a discount...hourray :|

[cmge]

alot are already sold out?

[LonesomeDove]

There's the Logitech Z-5500 Speakers for $279.99 everyone is begging for. But not the price they like.

[twopointfivebar]

the UltraSharp 2209WA is an IPS panel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why is it not discounted yet???

[syncmaster]

staples currently have the mx3200 at $139.99
i smell some pm opportunity

should make a good wireless set for $36 + tax with no rebate!

[AndrewRFD]

The $279.99 with free shipping on the Z-5500s might be as good as it gets for quite some time -- not bad.

Keep your fingers crossed for a good discount on the Ultrasharp 2209WA.

[ShylocK]

isnt the ram at 69.99 decent? its ~100+ at canadacomputers and ~89 at ncix?

[ahsalloum]

The Tsunami was my first ever gaming case back in... 2002 or 2003 I think. The case is ancient, but I have to admit it was quite decent. It's not that well priced here though; I'd expect it to go for $99.99 or even $89.99 to be a decent deal. Some warm deals there but nothing's hot.

[neo1973]

There's the Logitech Z-5500 Speakers for $279.99 everyone is begging for. But not the price they like.

Until Canadian dollar goes back on par with U.S. dollar we won't see the $200 price any time soon.

[tweetybird]

Until Canadian dollar goes back on par with U.S. dollar we won't see the $200 price any time soon.

funny thing is when we saw it, I don't remember them being at parity.

[gucci17]

isnt the ram at 69.99 decent? its ~100+ at canadacomputers and ~89 at ncix?

Those should be fine if you don't plan on overclocking. The description threw me off though. I really didn't think it was 2x4Gb sticks when I first saw it. It's really 2x2Gb sticks for 4Gb total.

[khulit]

http://merchant.linksynergy.com/fs/banners/3178/3178_10000346.jpg (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=CAqD7bLWUPI&offerid=116095.10000473&type=3&subid=0)

Dell is running another 48 hours of deals from March 4 to 5 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=CAqD7bLWUPI&offerid=116095.10000473&type=3&subid=0). Offers include electronics and computer components, as well as a tab with some Vostro systems. Here's a look at some of the interesting items available:

[list]
Logitech Z-5500 5.1 THX Digital Speaker System - $279.99 (Compare Prices (http://www.pricecanada.com/detail.php?product_id=23886&sku=9701150403))
Kingston 4GB 2X4GB 1066MHz DDR2 Non-ECC CL5 (5-5-5-15) DIMM - $69.99


I did a double take when I saw the 2x4GB RAM.... turns out it was 2x2GB... it would've been a great deal if it was 2x4GB RAM for $69.99

[SAN66]

Until Canadian dollar goes back on par with U.S. dollar we won't see the $200 price any time soon.

I still say that when they had it for $200 the chump in accounting who approved it forgot to fold in shipping costs and we will never see the deal again.

[buddhababy]

I got the Z-5500 for $199 during DOD at the end of 2007, it seems to me that it's been offered at that price more than once:

"Order Date: 12/12/2007

Z-5500 5.1 THX Digital Speaker System $349.99

Congratulations! You have qualified for savings with your Days of Deals purchase! - LOGITECH - $150.00

Subtotal: $199.99"

[Icelight]

Wow, who in their right mind would spend $240 on a 3870?!

[gucci17]

Wow, who in their right mind would spend $240 on a 3870?!

lol...ya, it made me chuckle when I saw that as well. :lol:

[SumDumGuy]

the 2209WA ultrasharp IPS panel (was promising depending on discount) no discount?
bubble = pop :(

[najibs]

I want that 22" IPS based LCD, but they put it on the page with no sale price...wtf?

review: http://www.overclock.net/monitors-displays/467862-my-review-dell-2209wa-ips-panel.html

[Eyies]

Dell please please Tomato Compatible Router! e.g. Linksys WRT54GL or Asus WL-500GP Premium or Asus WL-500GU.

Many of us need this :cheesygri. For tomorrow!

[Maelstrom]

I believe the MX3200 just went up to 79.99.

[gchanoki]

There's the Logitech Z-5500 Speakers for $279.99 everyone is begging for. But not the price they like.

Will these speakers work with a notebook computer?

[KorruptioN]

The 2209WA is now listed at $219.99, that's a HOT DEAL, folks! It uses LG.Display's e-IPS (LM220WE4) panel. I'm picking one up!

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&sku=320-7825
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/16.htm#dell_2209wa_panel

[Look4Deal]

I believe the MX3200 just went up to 79.99.

Awww too bad, I was interested in the MX 3200 Laser Cordless Desktop Bundle.

Still looking so if you see any good deals on a Cordless kbrd and mouse Bundle let me know! Thx!

[monklogic]

I believe the MX3200 just went up to 79.99.
They just made it sooo not worth it. Good job, Dell.

[number8888]

So if you buy everything on sale today you can assemble yourself a rather nice PC.

Not sure why they put up a Radeon v-card with a Geforce chipset though. You can't do Xfire on an SLI board ... right?

[dleinago]

219 For US2209WA now.

don't miss it

[chenj16]

just bought dell ultrasharp, thx op

[mahjongmaniac]

staples currently have the mx3200 at $139.99
i smell some pm opportunity

should make a good wireless set for $36 + tax with no rebate!

FTR, stooples have had these on sale for $30 AR a while back

but $50, free s/h, no MIR f/ Dell is not bad

[4flava]

Just picked up the Ultrasharp... Now gotta sell the 23" Dell from las time around. :D

[ibear]

Good price for the monitor. Have no desk space for it though:twisted:

[evanx]

The 2209WA is now listed at $219.99, that's a HOT DEAL, folks! It uses LG.Display's e-IPS (LM220WE4) panel. I'm picking one up!

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&sku=320-7825
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/16.htm#dell_2209wa_panel

Super hot!!

[len89]

anyone have any coupons to use? thinking of bitting the bullet and getting the ultrasharp

[KrayZeeMofo]

i can't believe that they would just jack up the price another 60% for the mx3200...i knew i should have bought one as soon as i saw it...

[AndrewRFD]

$219.99 is a kee-razy price for an IPS panel. If I didn't already get 2 of the S2309Ws, I would be all over this one. Dang!

[bbruzzes]

Wow, who in their right mind would spend $240 on a 3870?!

You'd have to be clinically insane to do so considering the fact ATI just announced they are cutting the price of the 4870 512MB to $149 US, and NVIDIA is releasing the GTS 250 (aka 9800 GTX+) at $129 and $149 US for the 512 MB and 1 GB versions respectively.

[KorruptioN]

Ordered the 2209WA!

[Spyder187]

Ordered monitor... yay..:D

[bokep]

****. ****. Mother****er.

I'm gonna have a hard time resisting that UltraSharp. ****. ****.

[BDeals]

damn that is a good price on this monitor. Damn!! but i already have 24inch with M panel.

[Derringdo]

The new e-IPS technology in the 2209WA is quite interesting, it's like a "budget" S-IPS panel with very few, if any drawbacks. Hopefully this will spell the end of TN panels since they're essentially being sold at the same price point. Who knows, maybe we'll soon see a 30" e-IPS LCD for $500 :D

[cactus88]

ordered monitor..

[4flava]

Ordered the 2209WA!

ME TOO!... couldn't resist!.. anybody want me S2309W 23" for $180???? :D

[Macross_Freek]

Ordered the 2209WA. Been eyeing an IPS panel forever.

[sweetjoy]

very not cool :mad:

[TWave]

My credit card jumped out of my pocket and ordered it by itself!!!

[Revvd]

Aeroplan members, remember to place your order through the Aeroplan "Shop Online" website to earn extra Aeroplan points. You get to double dip on the points that way

[Flix3r]

Ordered the monitor :D

[Recoil]

Aeroplan members, remember to place your order through the Aeroplan "Shop Online" website to earn extra Aeroplan points. You get to double dip on the points that way

Same thing with AIR MILES. :)

http://www.airmilesshops.ca/shops/airmilesshops/StoreSplash?RetailerID=1054564752139&RefererPage=AMS_Home_MainRetailerList-Dell-ca_AMSStoreSplash_Dell-ca_E

[bellboy26]

Could this monitor be used as a tv also?

[da_hool]

Anyone able to get the 2209WA through the EPP site?

[Pyro]

dell site just crashed for me lol

if only that monitor had hdmi...dunno how i would plug my xbox in

[Blitzo]

How is this better than last week's 22" 1080p monitor for $160?

[lumiawaily]

i want the S2209W 22" for $169.99 just like last time. i missed on it >:(

the 2209W and the 2209WA are different i think. 2209w uses TN panel, 2209WA uses e-IPS panel.

[bokep]

How is this better than last week's 22" 1080p monitor for $160?

Quality

[St00pid]

Can anyone enlighten me regarding what an IPS panel is? I did some searching but I couldn't find anything.

I'm on the verge of ordering the monitor... thanks in advance! :D

[Derringdo]

How is this better than last week's 22" 1080p monitor for $160?

This 22" has a superior e-IPS panel versus last week's TN panel. The e-IPS panel has better colour reproduction (8 bit colour vs 6 bit, meaning it can display more colours) as well as better viewing angles (178 degrees versus something like 170 degrees). Lastly this monitor is height adjustable and can be rotated to portrait orientation.

[samj1]

Anyone able to get the 2209WA through the EPP site?

Just called in a did so - $236.17. Waiting for my confirmation e-mail right now.

[Soulsaber]

This 22" has a superior e-IPS panel versus last week's TN panel. The e-IPS panel has better colour reproduction (8 bit colour vs 6 bit, meaning it can display more colours) as well as better viewing angles (178 degrees versus something like 170 degrees). Lastly this monitor is height adjustable and can be rotated to portrait orientation.

I was planning to get my parent's a new monitor (upgrade from some really old 17" square) and all they basically do is surf the net with it. Would there be any benefit of getting this compared to the 22" one?

[smirnoff]

I might go for the z5500 anyways. I need them now! Still better than usual I guess. Congrats to the people who grabbed em for 80$ less :)

[integrity01]

do you need to work for a company that is on the sell epp list to get the epp discount?

[Sansul]

Woke up today, and before I even got out of bed I loaded up redflag on my Iphone and found this deal. 10 minutes later I am out 250$. Thank you for this great deal!

[ZIgot]

It's a very lame joke being perpetuated by the RFD crowd because most people here don't really have much to say... So they continue to make the same old joke over and over again.

Dell put out the outline of a webcam similar to this (might be the same model, don't remember) as part of one of their promotions and it looked like a sewing machine.

http://techdigest.tv/creative_webcam-thumb.jpg

It's pretty cool looking web cam though

[Derringdo]

I was planning to get my parent's a new monitor (upgrade from some really old 17" square) and all they basically do is surf the net with it. Would there be any benefit of getting this compared to the 22" one?

Nope, most likely they won't notice a difference. For casual usage a TN monitor is fine, but for people who might care about colour accuracy and viewing angles (graphic designers, gamers, computer enthusiasts :D) an IPS-based panel is better.

It's going to be a more difficult decision to make soon, what with e-IPS monitors so close in price to their TN brethren!

[ahcash]

ordered one. Thanks Op.

[akademiks]

Damn the monitor is a nice deal.. Doesn't have enough inputs to suit my needs.. My 360 is component (which can be changed to VGA), but my PC is also VGA and has no other I/O. :(
Anything I can do??

[Kellaen]

22" E-Ips for $220 is a steal, now to sell the 2009w I bought in January :|

[ZIgot]

Good price for the monitor. Have no desk space for it though:twisted:

You can pivot it and use it in vertical! ;)

[the_fm]

Damn the monitor is a nice deal.. Doesn't have enough inputs to suit my needs.. My 360 is component (which can be changed to VGA), but my PC is also VGA and has no other I/O. :(
Anything I can do??

there's a DVI plug on it. you can, i believe, connect your 360 through it by buying a switch or something like that

[Sansul]

Damn the monitor is a nice deal.. Doesn't have enough inputs to suit my needs.. My 360 is component (which can be changed to VGA), but my PC is also VGA and has no other I/O. :(
Anything I can do??

In theory you can use a DVI Male - HDMI Female adapter, and then run an HDMI cable from the 360 to the monitor. Monoprice.com sells these pretty cheap. Its what I plan to do.

[vipt2000]

Nope, most likely they won't notice a difference. For casual usage a TN monitor is fine, but for people who might care about colour accuracy and viewing angles (graphic designers, gamers, computer enthusiasts :D) an IPS-based panel is better.

It's going to be a more difficult decision to make soon, what with e-IPS monitors so close in price to their TN brethren!



Thank you for the explaination. I am just a casual user so I can't justify paying for this monitor @ 249 vs the 23' on sale sometimes ago @ $192. Almost 60 buck difference assuming that I can sell my 23' at cost

Also, I can't afford to lose 1". Every inch count :cheesygri

[Imusion]

How does the screen render things if it's the same resolution as the 20" monitors? I heard 22" is the same as 20" just everything seems "stretched".. anyone comment on this?

[Kellaen]

It will be a larger pixel spread, but I doubt you'll really notice unless you nitpick.

[najibs]

The 2209WA is now listed at $219.99, that's a HOT DEAL, folks! It uses LG.Display's e-IPS (LM220WE4) panel. I'm picking one up!

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&sku=320-7825
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/16.htm#dell_2209wa_panel

fcukkkk!!! I'm in :twisted:

[WolfDV]

so is the 4gb kit of hyperx mem for $69 a good deal?

I'm thinking of getting 2 kits for 4x2gb = 8gb total for my pc

[St00pid]

How does the screen render things if it's the same resolution as the 20" monitors? I heard 22" is the same as 20" just everything seems "stretched".. anyone comment on this?

lol?

And you're a self-proclaimed "computer geek". Sorry, but 1680x1050 on a 22" does not constitute stretching.

[vipt2000]

so is the 4gb kit of hyperx mem for $69 a good deal?

I'm thinking of getting 2 kits for 4x2gb = 8gb total for my pc

You missed the deal from Futureshop about 2 weeks ago for Kingston 2gb @ $15

[mcg]

****!! Time to order the monitor. My 2007WFP finally can be put to rest!

[Derringdo]

How does the screen render things if it's the same resolution as the 20" monitors? I heard 22" is the same as 20" just everything seems "stretched".. anyone comment on this?

Yes they are the same resolution, but the size of the pixels has been scaled up accordingly in the 22" monitors to maintain the same aspect ratio. You still have the same number of pixels (and therefore no stretching), they're just a little bigger to fill up the extra space the 22" has over the 20". Everything is just scaled up proportionally.

[wonderboy]

what do you guys think of the computer for 350 bucks?

is it good? should i get the computer and the video card... would that make a best of a computer to play any games...

also it says mini tower, does that mean i won't be able to expand anything? can i even add the video card?

[Pyro]

In theory you can use a DVI Male - HDMI Female adapter, and then run an HDMI cable from the 360 to the monitor. Monoprice.com sells these pretty cheap. Its what I plan to do.

how would u handle the sound though?

[mcg]

Just ordered the monitor... oh my wallet

[najibs]

And here I was bummed out about not getting in on those 23" LCD's for under $200 a few months ago, but for just over $200, this is WAY better. Finally a monitor to do some image editing on with accuracy that's affordable! Well, affordable for today, as it probably wont be had at this price again, which seems to be the trend with Dell's intro prices on new product.

[GiOBoY]

Ohh Baby! Thanks Op!

Ordered the Ultrasharp 2209WA ... crazy HAWT deal for a 22" IPS panel if you ask me...

I did my part in helping out during this recession! :lol:

[wonderboy]

what do you guys think of the computer for 350 bucks?

is it good? should i get the computer and the video card... would that make a best of a computer to play any games...

also it says mini tower, does that mean i won't be able to expand anything? can i even add the video card?

so??? lol i've been waiting for a good deal on pc for a long time..

so is it HOT?

[IntrepidRT]

Linked my uncle to this deal on the monitors and he ordered 2. I may order one as well.

[wonderboy]

are these free shipping?

[Kellaen]

Dell's deals are always free shipping, I believe. This one certainly is.

[chumms]

Just ordered, damnit RFD effect. Justified it by giving it to my gf's grandparent's new system...right that makes sense now...

[wonderboy]

so noone wants to comment on the pc?

[zoob]

Just called in a did so - $236.17. Waiting for my confirmation e-mail right now.

Can I get your rep's #? I called in and they would only give it on the regular price :(

[rei]

37-page thread on this monitor at hardforum: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1387587

[bedouin]

I hate you RFD :lol: just ordered 2 monitors :razz:

[Derek]

so noone wants to comment on the pc?

PC is just okay. There's been better PC deals recently.

[jaszy]

Must...resist! Let's see if can manage to pull through...again. :|

[mecassa]

can you still get airmiles if you order via EPP?

[mcg]

37-page thread on this monitor at hardforum: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1387587

Hmm so doing a quick skim in the thread, I read that the 2209WA may have some:


- heat issues
- font rendering problems
- magenta hues / evenness problems?

Well w/e. Ordered and if it sucks I'll return it :P

[the_fm]

Must...resist! Let's see if can manage to pull through...again. :|

same for me. i really want the monitor but i'm going to hold off, wait for my tax return and buy a tv :o

[s2upid]

How come in the first post it said Logitech MX 3200 Laser Cordless Desktop Bundle - $49.99

but when i click the link it's showing up as $79.99?

Is anyone else seeing this?

[akademiks]

In theory you can use a DVI Male - HDMI Female adapter, and then run an HDMI cable from the 360 to the monitor. Monoprice.com sells these pretty cheap. Its what I plan to do.

How much does it degrade the video quality though? Will it even keep the same quality as VGA??

[Derringdo]

How much does it degrade the video quality though? Will it even keep the same quality as VGA??

DVI and HDMI are both digital signals, so there shouldn't be any decrease in video quality. In fact, it should be higher quality than VGA since VGA is an analog signal.

[Anarchy]

Damn RFD!

I rarely use my computer, mostly on my laptop.
I don't need this!

But I bought one anyways...
Oh well. If I find I rarely use it I'll just sell it and not lose too much money.

[Pyro]

How much does it degrade the video quality though? Will it even keep the same quality as VGA??

hdmi/dvi is better then vga?
and i doubt you'll notice the degredation

[lokyee]

dammit...I bit and purchased the monitor...

Thanks OP....:o

[mecassa]

how would people rate this against the Ultra Sharp 2408WFP?

[Imusion]

Bought two. Contemplated and bought before it's too late... :lol: putting up my 2005FPW S-IPS monitor for sale...

[BongoBong]

trying to buy the monitor, why does dell require a company/organization name for my shipping address?

[Ryvius]

For those who are selling their s2309w, how much are you getting for it? Mine still came with the box and cable and the plastic wrapping on the monitor is still there so it looks good as new.

[kidgoku]

trying to buy the monitor, why does dell require a company/organization name for my shipping address?


Just put N/A (Not available) I always did it like that.

[StE823]

I noticed that some of you guys are selling the 23inch monitor from a few weeks ago. I would love to get my hands on it. $160, anyone interested in selling? I might take two. Thanks.

i have one for sell at your price if u want, comes with original packaging in markham area

[mcg]

how would people rate this against the Ultra Sharp 2408WFP?

For me it would be a lot better for my needs since the 2209WA is apparently a sRGB monitor. The 2408WFP is wide gamut and makes everything look more saturated than a cloth soaked in kryptonite.

[MACMAC]

Well I'm glad to see that my rapid-fire bitching this morning led to a positive development :razz:

Ordered!


Great a bunch of OOS stuff and a terrific new monitor without a discount...hourray :|

[drool]

can you still get airmiles if you order via EPP?

You can order it and then request an airmiles credit in case you haven't received any airmiles. http://**********************/s/happy.gif
Just keep your order number info and such.

[Ryvius]

What is the shipping date for the monitor for those who ordered? Dell charges the CC when they ship right?

[slomo]

Thanks OP! Ordered the monitor. I've been looking for a decent IPS panel as a photo editing monitor for a long time. I am glad this one has a dedicated input (DVI/VGA) change button in the front as I am going to share it with another CPU box with a KVM.

[RedFlagRobot]

Please sell out... resistance is weakening...

[drool]

Please sell out... resistance is weakening...

Do you want to be the only one without the monitor on RFD? http://**********************/s/happy.gif

[wonderboy]

PC is just okay. There's been better PC deals recently.

where? ive been checkin RFD for good PC deals everyday for like a month.. how am i missin them?

[drool]

where? ive been checkin RFD for good PC deals everyday for like a month.. how am i missin them?

What king of specs are you looking for?

[Derek]

where? ive been checkin RFD for good PC deals everyday for like a month.. how am i missin them?

This one was hotter before, originally from January 30th:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/alldeals/comments/dellca_vostro_220_pc_with_intel_core_2_duo_266ghz_ e7300_359_includes_dvd_rw

[djarum]

ordered!
sweet deal

[lokyee]

Please sell out... resistance is weakening...

you know you waaaaant it...you know you waaaaant it......

[TeriyakiJack]

I already have a decent monitor, Samsung 216BW. I know this is the obvious better panel and its getting REALLY hard to resist the lull of it. If it were one inch bigger i'd have bought it already.

Will it it make THAT much of a difference for photo-editing :( Please someone talk me out of this, i'm only missing the last step of check-out lol.

[bokep]

I already have a decent monitor, Samsung 216BW. I know this is the obvious better panel and its getting REALLY hard to resist the lull of it. If it were one inch bigger i'd have bought it already.

Will it it make THAT much of a difference for photo-editing :( Please someone talk me out of this, i'm only missing the last step of check-out lol.

Resist. I did it, and I don't already have a nice monitor.

http://www.amnesty-volunteer.org/clipart/blacknwhite/GIFS/RESIST.GIF

RFD peer pressure is for the weak.

[Tornado F2]

Thank you for the explaination. I am just a casual user so I can't justify paying for this monitor @ 249 vs the 23' on sale sometimes ago @ $192. Almost 60 buck difference assuming that I can sell my 23' at cost

Also, I can't afford to lose 1". Every inch count :cheesygri

The 23in also had 1080 lines, vs 1050 on the 22in. The 23in had the perfect dimensions for watching HD DVD movies (or HD-upscaled standard DVDs) which is why mine is now pretty much permanently attached to my XBOX 360.

The only problem I've come across is that some older "widescreen" DVDs are actually just matted standard-aspect-ratio discs, so the movie just shows in the middle of the screen with a huge black border around it. Needless to say, I won't be wasting my new equipment watching those ones.

[wonderboy]

What king of specs are you looking for?

good enough to play all the games out with decent settings..

games like CoD4 and fallout 3 and bioshock and stuff like that

[grego9198]

I already have a decent monitor, Samsung 216BW. I know this is the obvious better panel and its getting REALLY hard to resist the lull of it. If it were one inch bigger i'd have bought it already.

Will it it make THAT much of a difference for photo-editing :( Please someone talk me out of this, i'm only missing the last step of check-out lol.

I went from a TN to a S-PVA panel for editing, wow much better.

I couldn't resist the opportunity to get an S-IPS panel. I ended up buying one of these. I'm going to see which I like better and sell the other one.

[kleptodathief]

effing bs...zzzzz5500 still xpensive! y didn't they do 199???:mad:

i was at the STC bb and had the box ready to go,259+ taxes? then wimped out :o
whoever said it was heavy is apparently a weakling lol, thing weighs nothing

[wonderboy]

This one was hotter before, originally from January 30th:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/alldeals/comments/dellca_vostro_220_pc_with_intel_core_2_duo_266ghz_ e7300_359_includes_dvd_rw

oh man i missed out on a deal on Core2duo dam it

[Matryx]

Can I connect my PS3 to this 22" S-IPS panel monitor? What would I need to do that?

[zenzen]

The only problem I've come across is that some older "widescreen" DVDs are actually just matted standard-aspect-ratio discs, so the movie just shows in the middle of the screen with a huge black border around it. Needless to say, I won't be wasting my new equipment watching those ones.

So you won't be watching Casblanca because of the black bars on the sides? I hear you, but you're going to miss out on some fine movies. 16:9 is just one of many cinematic "standards", and I wager most movies do not conform (some are even wider! With these you'll find black bars on top and bottom).

[torontodragon]

How come in the first post it said Logitech MX 3200 Laser Cordless Desktop Bundle - $49.99

but when i click the link it's showing up as $79.99?

Is anyone else seeing this?

If you read the whole thread you will notice it has been $49.99 before but the price raised. Looking for a combo and I missed that too. OP should update the post.

[TeriyakiJack]

Resist. I did it, and I don't already have a nice monitor.


RFD peer pressure is for the weak.

Thanks for the support, but I succumed to the pressure. I pressed that final button and its now somewhere along the way from the Warehouse to my house.

Will put this side by side with the current Samsung to see if its worth the extra money. One will have to go at the end of the day.

[hugewallet]

i got the $169 2209w DEAL, now the shipment is in calgary, i live in vancouver, the expected delivery date is MARCH 13th, how come it takes so long?

[RedFlagRobot]

So you won't be watching Casblanca because of the black bars on the sides? I hear you, but you're going to miss out on some fine movies. 16:9 is just one of many cinematic "standards", and I wager most movies do not conform (some are even wider! With these you'll find black bars on top and bottom).

I think he's referring to actual 16x9 movies that were made for 4x3 TVs so they have the bars on the top and bottom plus the sides when you watch them on a widescreen tv.

[Macross_Freek]

Anyone else getting long delays in receiving the confirmation email? I thought the first time I ordered it didn't go through (don't remember if I clicked submit) and I got a confirmation after I ordered it a second time but I don't know if there's now two orders or not. Nothing shows up in the order status of my account page and the tracking doesn't work probably because it's too early.

[GiOBoY]

i got the $169 2209w DEAL, now the shipment is in calgary, i live in vancouver, the expected delivery date is MARCH 13th, how come it takes so long?

HAHA... I guess you pressed the submit button just AFTER the RFD Tsunami of orders that went thru... mine is expected March 11th. :lol:

[myleftnut]

I went from a TN to a S-PVA panel for editing, wow much better.

I couldn't resist the opportunity to get an S-IPS panel. I ended up buying one of these. I'm going to see which I like better and sell the other one.

It's e-IPS, not and S-IPS panel, hence, why it's able to be offered at the price of a TN panel.

[ben_liu]

Can I connect my PS3 to this monitor? What would I need to do that?

You can connect PS3 to any Monitor actually.

PS3 --> HDMI cable out ---> HMDI to DVI adapter ---> DVI in monitor.

[chinesedevil]

It's e-IPS, not and S-IPS panel, hence, why it's able to be offered at the price of a TN panel.

can you explain the difference between e-IPS and S-IPS?

[Derringdo]

can you explain the difference between e-IPS and S-IPS?

This blog post (http://www.displayblog.com/2009/02/13/lg-display-e-ips-lcd-panel-update-2/) explains the difference between e-IPS and S-IPS pretty well. Basically LG found a more cost-effective and efficient way to do the backlighting of IPS panels, which was the main reason that S-IPS panels were more expensive than other panel types in the past.

[ptmfr]

You can connect PS3 to any Monitor actually.

PS3 --> HDMI cable out ---> HMDI to DVI adapter ---> DVI in monitor.

As long as the monitor supports HDCP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP

[chinesedevil]

This blog post (http://www.displayblog.com/2009/02/13/lg-display-e-ips-lcd-panel-update-2/) explains the difference between e-IPS and S-IPS pretty well. Basically LG found a more cost-effective and efficient way to do the backlighting of IPS panels, which was the main reason that S-IPS panels were more expensive than other panel types in the past.

i see, thnks for the info

[Matryx]

That would be true if the monitor had DVI though or I would just stick with my CRT monitor which only has VGA inputs

You can connect PS3 to any Monitor actually.

PS3 --> HDMI cable out ---> HMDI to DVI adapter ---> DVI in monitor.

[hugewallet]

HAHA... I guess you pressed the submit button just AFTER the RFD Tsunami of orders that went thru... mine is expected March 11th. :lol:

r u also in vancouver? those in toronto got delivered couple days after the order. so r u ordering this ips panel or not? looks like this is a way better deal.

can i refuse the shippment and get the money back? does it affect my credit rating? i heard it is a chargeback and it affects my credit.

[hugewallet]

for those of you who ordered the $169 2209 monitors, do you regret now and will return it and order this one instead?

[_RFDealt_]

What I don't get is, sure you can plug a PS3 in through the DVI, but what about the sound?! What are you guys going to do about the sound!

[drool]

I think he's referring to actual 16x9 movies that were made for 4x3 TVs so they have the bars on the top and bottom plus the sides when you watch them on a widescreen tv.

can't you just zoom into the middle portion of the movie thus removing black bars ?http://**********************/s/happy.gif

[4flava]

What I don't get is, sure you can plug a PS3 in through the DVI, but what about the sound?! What are you guys going to do about the sound!

You have to output the sound seperately.

[GiOBoY]

r u also in vancouver? those in toronto got delivered couple days after the order. so r u ordering this ips panel or not? looks like this is a way better deal.

can i refuse the shippment and get the money back? does it affect my credit rating? i heard it is a chargeback and it affects my credit.

Toronto (Markham to be exact), yes ordered the e-IPS panel few hours ago.

[JuGGERNAUT]

for those of you who ordered the $169 2209 monitors, do you regret now and will return it and order this one instead?

How much better would this monitor be for gaming? I rarely play PC games anymore and bought the 2209 because I would be smaller and better looking than my current CRT.

From earlier this thread; this monitor has a wider viewing angle, which isn't important to me as I use it for PC gaming. Has more colours, might be important. Any other benefits?

[hugewallet]

Toronto (Markham to be exact), yes ordered the e-IPS panel few hours ago.

r u going to keep the TN one?

[TeriyakiJack]

How much better would this monitor be for gaming? I rarely play PC games anymore and bought the 2209 because I would be smaller and better looking than my current CRT.

From earlier this thread; this monitor has a wider viewing angle, which isn't important to me as I use it for PC gaming. Has more colours, might be important. Any other benefits?

Regardless of the panel, the Ultrasharp line has some features that I thought justified the price (atleast I like to keep repeating to myself)

-Height adjustable stand so you need not crane your neck or buy a separate stand
-Built-in USB Hub, reduces clutter a little on the desk.

If you're going for pure response time (gaming), then cheaper TN panels can't be beat at 2MS for some monitors. Your games will possibly LOOK better with the better colour reproduction on this one though.

[hugewallet]

how is this monitor performing with regard to internet text browsing? does it perform much better than a TN panel in this regard? i dont do photo editing, gaming. just text browsing and HD movies.

i bought the 16:9 $169 2209 for HD movies only due to its small pixel pitch and i already have a 4:3 regular monitor for text browsing.

as this deal is coming up, is it worth the money to have this monitor to do 2 in 1 jobs-both for text browsing(large 0.282mm pixel pitch) and HD movies?

[GiOBoY]

r u going to keep the TN one?

Ha... I'm still on a 17" CRT... this is really a huge jump for me! My CRT is like 10 years old!

This deal couldn't have come at a better time.. :razz:

[freebie]

This Ultrasharp is exactly what I'm looking for... I currently have a 19" Ultrasharp from a few years ago and I think it's awesome. A feature that most people don't really appreciate is the height adjustable stand... man I really like having this feature for my home computer and hate propping up my monitors at work because they have fixed-stand LCDs.

The only problem with this deal is that I don't need this until 5 months later. I'm gonna be building my brother a new computer when he moves out to start university and I hope Dell puts this on sale again in the summer! :idea:

[Diskdoctor]

I already have a decent monitor, Samsung 216BW. I know this is the obvious better panel and its getting REALLY hard to resist the lull of it. If it were one inch bigger i'd have bought it already.

The question for me is are they going to be putting a 23" or 24" version of this monitor on sale in the next few months?

[buddhababy]

the question for me is are they going to be putting a 23" or 24" version of this monitor on sale in the next few months?

+1

[ptmfr]

What I don't get is, sure you can plug a PS3 in through the DVI, but what about the sound?! What are you guys going to do about the sound!

You can set the PS3 to deliver sound and video to independent outputs (I got sound via RCA and video via HDMI/DVI).

[buddhababy]

Has anyoe ever actually had their hands on one of these monitors? I'm looking at the expired thread for the 2309 and it seems there were plenty of problems once the things started arriving. Dead pixels was common, complaints about the stand, some problems with it being a dust magnet for a few and various notes about uneven color/tone/lighting.

I'd hate to order this just to find out this is the early version with lots of bugs that will be fixed with the next models.

[Tornado F2]

for those of you who ordered the $169 2209 monitors, do you regret now and will return it and order this one instead?

Not a chance! Excellent for HD movie viewing.

[BongoBong]

Well ended up buying a monitor, should be a nice upgrade on the 17". Thanks OP

[Tornado F2]

can't you just zoom into the middle portion of the movie thus removing black bars ?http://**********************/s/happy.gif

Not on the XBOX, I don't think.

[moko]

This Ultrasharp is exactly what I'm looking for... I currently have a 19" Ultrasharp from a few years ago and I think it's awesome. A feature that most people don't really appreciate is the height adjustable stand... man I really like having this feature for my home computer and hate propping up my monitors at work because they have fixed-stand LCDs.

The only problem with this deal is that I don't need this until 5 months later. I'm gonna be building my brother a new computer when he moves out to start university and I hope Dell puts this on sale again in the summer! :idea:

Buy it now, and when your brother needs one, give him your 19" inch :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri

[Tornado F2]

how is this monitor performing with regard to internet text browsing? does it perform much better than a TN panel in this regard? i dont do photo editing, gaming. just text browsing and HD movies.

i bought the 16:9 $169 2209 for HD movies only due to its small pixel pitch and i already have a 4:3 regular monitor for text browsing.

as this deal is coming up, is it worth the money to have this monitor to do 2 in 1 jobs-both for text browsing(large 0.282mm pixel pitch) and HD movies?

Not enough lines (1050) for true HD (1080). Stick with the 23in model.

[GiOBoY]

Has anyoe ever actually had their hands on one of these monitors? I'm looking at the expired thread for the 2309 and it seems there were plenty of problems once the things started arriving. Dead pixels was common, complaints about the stand, some problems with it being a dust magnet for a few and various notes about uneven color/tone/lighting.

I'd hate to order this just to find out this is the early version with lots of bugs that will be fixed with the next models.

37-page thread on this monitor at hardforum: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1387587

From quickly scanning the thread, the 2209WA may have some:

- heat issues
- font rendering problems
- magenta hues / back-lighting uniformity problems?

There will ALWAYS be issues... and most of the complainers are the ones that are perfectionists (graphic designers etc..)
So for the price @ $250 shipped it is hard to RESIST... something I have been doing ever since 2001 when Dell introduced the Ultrasharp lines.

[hugewallet]

Not enough lines (1050) for true HD (1080). Stick with the 23in model.

what i ordered is 22" model, i missed the 23" deal.

[Tornado F2]

So you won't be watching Casblanca because of the black bars on the sides? I hear you, but you're going to miss out on some fine movies. 16:9 is just one of many cinematic "standards", and I wager most movies do not conform (some are even wider! With these you'll find black bars on top and bottom).

If I had Casablanca on DVD I'd watch it on my older equipment. If I had the HD DVD version I'd watch it on my new gear. I have no great problem with having black bars at the top/bottom OR sides - just when it's BOTH!:lol:

[Tornado F2]

what i ordered is 22" model, i missed the 23" deal.

Ah, right you are! I was going off the price and missed the model number.:lol:

[Tornado F2]

Has anyoe ever actually had their hands on one of these monitors? I'm looking at the expired thread for the 2309 and it seems there were plenty of problems once the things started arriving. Dead pixels was common, complaints about the stand, some problems with it being a dust magnet for a few and various notes about uneven color/tone/lighting.

I'd hate to order this just to find out this is the early version with lots of bugs that will be fixed with the next models.

Considering how many 23-inchers were bought by RFDers that day there were actually very few complainers. As for "dust magnet" - the poster was either a Howard Hughes-type clean freak :lol: or more likely just had a dusties room than he previously realised. I've had mine a month now and don't have any dust problem.

[Diskdoctor]

Not enough lines (1050) for true HD (1080). Stick with the 23in model.

Does it really matter? If you clip 15 lines off the top and 15 lines off the bottom are you really going to notice?

[buddhababy]

37-page thread on this monitor at hardforum: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1387587

From quickly scanning the thread, the 2209WA may have some:

- heat issues
- font rendering problems
- magenta hues / back-lighting uniformity problems?

There will ALWAYS be issues... and most of the complainers are the ones that are perfectionists (graphic designers etc..)
So for the price @ $250 shipped it is hard to RESIST... something I have been doing ever since 2001 when Dell introduced the Ultrasharp lines.

Thanks for this. It looks like the hardforum crew is largely using Mac's and generally professional artists where the issues mentioned would definitely be issues, whereas little ol' me is not that sophisticated. I've ordered, can always send it back if it turns out I have higher standards than I currently think I do.

[grego9198]

It's e-IPS, not and S-IPS panel, hence, why it's able to be offered at the price of a TN panel.

Ah okay, I'll see how it stacks up with the HP F2105 I bought used for $150. I don't dig the integrated speakers in the bezel of the HP (I like Dell's simple design better), but the picture is excellent for the price.

[Derringdo]

Does it really matter? If you clip 15 lines off the top and 15 lines off the bottom are you really going to notice?

What about clipping off 120 vertical lines from each side (1920 vs 1680)?

[fuddleduddle]

ordered this morning. any chance this might not go through seeing as there's kind of an RFD effect going on? i hope not!

anyway, definitely a step up for me since my old desktop mon's a 17" crt.

[sf1]

why everyone talking about $160 monitor?
did i miss anything?
now i only see 2209WA for $219.99
and this thread is 4 stars everything is over 150 bucks??

[Diskdoctor]

What about clipping off 120 vertical lines from each side (1920 vs 1680)?

Good point! The image obviously needs to be scaled to fit the screen. Personally I think that 16:10 aspect ratio is pushing it far enough unless your primary use is for watching HD content.

[chinesedevil]

why everyone talking about $160 monitor?
did i miss anything?
now i only see 2209WA for $219.99
and this thread is 4 stars everything is over 150 bucks??

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=704850
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=687660&highlight=Dell+23%26quot%3B%26quot%3B

refer to those 2 threads, there were 23" and 22" 1080p panels for sale at 170, i guess some people are selling those for the ultrasharp

[hugewallet]

why everyone talking about $160 monitor?
did i miss anything?
now i only see 2209WA for $219.99
and this thread is 4 stars everything is over 150 bucks??

those $169 monitors are expired deals.

[cache]

why everyone talking about $160 monitor?
did i miss anything?


omg, i can't believe anyone on RFD not knowing what this is :cheesygri
refer to the post above by chinesedevil

[Alias]

Anyone know if the monitor is glossy?

[lumiawaily]

got me the 2209wa as well! first new monitor in 6 years! really hope they ship it asap!

[chumms]

Anyone know if the monitor is glossy?

The monitor is matte, not glossy.

[RastaManMax]

for those of you who ordered the $169 2209 monitors, do you regret now and will return it and order this one instead?

I do and don't because i also own a 2005FPW so while it would be 2" larger, i wouldn't go for another monitor at the same resolution. The 2309 does get a LOT better once calibrated but it still can't touch the picture of the 2005FPW.

This 22" monitor is also $50+tax more expensive and with some people dumping their 2309's, i only regret not waiting until this deal to grab a 2309 because at 160ish for the 2309, that's really hot.

If i had only one monitor or a small/crappy LCD then i would probably suck it down and grab this 2209 because IPS >>>>>>> TN. Hope this helps some people.

[Asad_A203]

Anyone else getting long delays in receiving the confirmation email? I thought the first time I ordered it didn't go through (don't remember if I clicked submit) and I got a confirmation after I ordered it a second time but I don't know if there's now two orders or not. Nothing shows up in the order status of my account page and the tracking doesn't work probably because it's too early.

+1. I did not recieve anything confirmation email yet... RFD Effect??

[Kellaen]

Order page refreshes at night, so it won't be up there till tomorrow most likely.

[BongoBong]

I ordered around 4:30 today EST and got the confirmation email right away

[JuGGERNAUT]

Regardless of the panel, the Ultrasharp line has some features that I thought justified the price (atleast I like to keep repeating to myself)

-Height adjustable stand so you need not crane your neck or buy a separate stand
-Built-in USB Hub, reduces clutter a little on the desk.

If you're going for pure response time (gaming), then cheaper TN panels can't be beat at 2MS for some monitors. Your games will possibly LOOK better with the better colour reproduction on this one though.

Thx for the reply. Kinda what I figured, I think I'll stick with the 22" that will arrive tomorrow. If I buy another one it'll be for a bigger size.

[Sgt_Strider]

I'm a little confused. How did some of you get the IPS screen for $160? Or that some of you confused that with the 23" LCD?

[najibs]

For those still on the fence about the LCD...get it! Here's some useful info:

Review, pics & a good overall thread with lots of links: http://www.techenclave.com/pc-peripherals/first-pics-dell-2209wa-action-56k-127430.html


Stand demo on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiBxe3RhYXU

Long thread about it on Hard OCP: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1033691716

Menu settings (youtube): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN6h2wjq3VE

Tweakers review: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://tweakers.net/productreview/9778/dell-ultrasharp-2209wa.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=10&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D2209wa%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D %26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26as_qdr%3Dd

[KorruptioN]

why everyone talking about $160 monitor?
did i miss anything?
now i only see 2209WA for $219.99
and this thread is 4 stars everything is over 150 bucks??

The $160 22" Dell LCD from the previous deal was just a cheap 22" LCD. This is actually a good 22" LCD for a good price. 5-stars because it's actually a smokin' hot deal for those who understand the technologies behind LCDs.

I'm a little confused. How did some of you get the IPS screen for $160? Or that some of you confused that with the 23" LCD?

Nobody got the IPS screen for $160. They're referring to the previous 22" Dell LCD deal, which was a basic TN panel. Dell's naming convention doesn't make a whole lot of sense sometimes :lol:

[Kellaen]

I'm a little confused. How did some of you get the IPS screen for $160? Or that some of you confused that with the 23" LCD?

They did not get the e-IPS screen for $160, they're trying to sell the 2309w that was bought from the deals a short time ago for $160.

[najibs]

According to the confirmation e-mail I received, the estimated ship date is March 11th for the monitor. Anyone else have a sooner ship date?

[bpopd]

The $160 22" Dell LCD from the previous deal was just a cheap 22" LCD. This is actually a good 22" LCD for a good price. 5-stars because it's actually a smokin' hot deal for those who understand the technologies behind LCDs.



Nobody got the IPS screen for $160. They're referring to the previous 22" Dell LCD deal, which was a basic TN panel. Dell's naming convention doesn't make a whole lot of sense sometimes :lol:

It's the new "economy - ips" screen, but there isn't a lot of info on it yet. The thing is, I've had my 2005fpw (S-IPS) since 2005...and the monitor has been stellar, with that said dells old ceo is back, and has been back... so I have high hopes for it. I think Dell has 5yrs warranty and no dead pixels guarantee with their Ultrasharp models. So if anythings wrong, just ask dell to send you another one.

[najibs]

It's the new "economy - ips" screen, but there isn't a lot of info on it yet. The thing is, I've had my 2005fpw (S-IPS) since 2005...and the monitor has been stellar, with that said, I trust dell. I think Dell has 5yrs warranty and no dead pixels guarantee with their Ultrasharp models. So if anythings wrong, just ask dell to send you another one.

Whatever it is, it's still an IPS panel, and has been getting rave reviews. 'Nuff said!

[Sgt_Strider]

Nobody got the IPS screen for $160. They're referring to the previous 22" Dell LCD deal, which was a basic TN panel. Dell's naming convention doesn't make a whole lot of sense sometimes :lol:

Ok, cuz I think some dude in the previous pages said he got the IPS screen for $160 which made me think that Dell raised the price. Now, I'm tempted to pick one up even though I have a dual S-IPS setup already.

[Airey]

.... I think Dell has 5yrs warranty and no dead pixels guarantee with their Ultrasharp models.

Quote from Dell

"We build every Dell UltraSharp 2209WA to high standards and back them with solid service and support.

* Dell monitors undergo exhaustive testing for performance, reliability, durability and compatibility with Dell systems
* 3-Year Limited Hardware Warranty1
* 3-Year Advanced Exchange (AE) Service
* Technical help available 24/7 with toll-free call in U.S. under the terms of the limited hardware warranty1" (http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&sku=320-7825)


so ya..looks like 3 years.

[Asad_A203]

Got it; suppose to ship out on the 13th. Now I can study in peace knowing the RFD effect was too slow for this deal.

[saltypig]

Got it; suppose to ship out on the 13th. Now I can study in peace knowing the RFD effect was too slow for this deal.

Maybe it's the poor economy but a lot of RFDers are not techies - to a non-techie a 23" for $160 is a way better deal then a 22" for $220. Plus how many monitors can an RFDer buy in a year from Dell? It seems like every month or two we get a good monitor deal from Dell. I think if I let my impulses get the better of me - I'd have purchased about 5 monitors in the past 12 months.

[IntrepidRT]

I'm surprised that they're not sold out yet.........seems like everyone is getting one of these. I bought 3 today :)

[a in yul]

Maybe it's the poor economy but a lot of RFDers are not techies - to a non-techie a 23" for $160 is a way better deal then a 22" for $220. Plus how many monitors can an RFDer buy in a year from Dell? It seems like every month or two we get a good monitor deal from Dell. I think if I let my impulses get the better of me - I'd have purchased about 5 monitors in the past 12 months.

being non-techie, can u pls explain why this 2@220 is better then the 23@160?

thx!

[Airey]

...Plus how many monitors can an RFDer buy in a year from Dell? It seems like every month or two we get a good monitor deal from Dell. I think if I let my impulses get the better of me - I'd have purchased about 5 monitors in the past 12 months.

Didn't seem to be a problem for many RFDers when we buy a backup mouse for the backup mouse. :cheesygri

Jokes aside, that's why many ppl are selling their 1 month old monitors for $160.


being non-techie, can u pls explain why this 2@220 is better then the 23@160?

thx!

to some at least, bigger and cheaper is better.

[jed]

being non-techie, can u pls explain why this 2@220 is better then the 23@160?

thx!

Let Me Google That For You S-IPs vs tn (http://tinyurl.com/auzjrq)

[akademiks]

Ok so I bought the 2209WA, but if its 22', then why do the dimensions come out to ~20'?? That's less than 20' of viewing area on a 22' advertised monitor..
That irks me :confused:

[buddhababy]

Let Me Google That For You S-IPs vs tn (http://tinyurl.com/auzjrq)

Most awesome link ever! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[discostupid]

F me. Ordered. We'll see how it stacks up to my NEC 20wmgx2

[a in yul]

Let Me Google That For You S-IPs vs tn (http://tinyurl.com/auzjrq)

ok, got it! google & RFD are def. my friends...lol...!!

Basically speaking:

TN = Twisted Nematic - These are 6-bit screens that cannot really reproduce 16.7 million colors. They can only reproduce 262,144 colors; 64 shades of Red, Green & Blue. Thats (2^6)^3 or 64^3. All the other colors are created through a process called dithering. These typically have fast response times (for gaming) at the expense of color accuracy. These are inexpensive monitors.

MVA = Multidomain Vertical Alignment
PVA = Patterned-ITO Vertical Alignment

MVA and PVA panel are the most common 8-bit LCD screen around. They are relatively slow compared to TN, but offers better color accuracy. Good viewing angles and contrast ratio. However not all MVA and PVA panels are 8-bit screens. S-MVA and S-PVA are typically the ones that are 8-bit panel from my research. S = Super.

8-bit LCDs can truly reproduce 16.7 million colors. That's because there will be 256 shades of each color (2^8 ); Red, Green & Blue. Therefore 256^3 = 16.7 million (actually, a little more).

S-IPS = Super In-Plane Switching. These are high end and really expensive LCD panels. All these panels are 8-bit panels and comes the closest to CRT image quality. From what I've read they also have very good response times as well. LCD monitors geared towards graphic artists who demands the most color accuracy are designed with these type of panels. That means the shades of color you see on the screen are the exact shades that will be printed out on a good color printer.

To give you a rough idea of the price of a 20.1" LCD monitor based on these different panels:

TN = $200-$300

MVA/PVA = $400 - $600

S-IPS = $1,000+

[bokep]

Ok so I bought the 2209WA, but if its 22', then why do the dimensions come out to ~20'?? That's less than 20' of viewing area on a 22' advertised monitor..
That irks me :confused:

You mean these dimensions?
20.15 inches ( 511.77 mm) x 7.25 inches ( 184.12 mm) x 14.24 inches (361.91 mm)
Monitors (like TVs) are measured diagonally. In a rectangle, the diagonal will be longer than any side.

[akademiks]

You mean these dimensions?

Monitors (like TVs) are measured diagonally. In a rectangle, the diagonal will be longer than any side.

True nuff'.

I guess it's still a 'decent' upgrade over my 15' Sony that was one of the first LCD monitors on the market :lol:

[bpopd]

oh god, f*** me. and a 2 thumbs up rfd's ass... I ordered 2.

[StE823]

ok, got it! google & RFD are def. my friends...lol...!!

Basically speaking:

TN = Twisted Nematic - These are 6-bit screens that cannot really reproduce 16.7 million colors. They can only reproduce 262,144 colors; 64 shades of Red, Green & Blue. Thats (2^6)^3 or 64^3. All the other colors are created through a process called dithering. These typically have fast response times (for gaming) at the expense of color accuracy. These are inexpensive monitors.

MVA = Multidomain Vertical Alignment
PVA = Patterned-ITO Vertical Alignment

MVA and PVA panel are the most common 8-bit LCD screen around. They are relatively slow compared to TN, but offers better color accuracy. Good viewing angles and contrast ratio. However not all MVA and PVA panels are 8-bit screens. S-MVA and S-PVA are typically the ones that are 8-bit panel from my research. S = Super.

8-bit LCDs can truly reproduce 16.7 million colors. That's because there will be 256 shades of each color (2^8 ); Red, Green & Blue. Therefore 256^3 = 16.7 million (actually, a little more).

S-IPS = Super In-Plane Switching. These are high end and really expensive LCD panels. All these panels are 8-bit panels and comes the closest to CRT image quality. From what I've read they also have very good response times as well. LCD monitors geared towards graphic artists who demands the most color accuracy are designed with these type of panels. That means the shades of color you see on the screen are the exact shades that will be printed out on a good color printer.

To give you a rough idea of the price of a 20.1" LCD monitor based on these different panels:

TN = $200-$300

MVA/PVA = $400 - $600

S-IPS = $1,000+

great info.. also keep in mind that this 22" ips monitor is a e-ips not s-ips...

[ASharp]

To give you a rough idea of the price of a 20.1" LCD monitor based on these different panels:

TN = $200-$300

MVA/PVA = $400 - $600

S-IPS = $1,000+

Yeah, I think those prices are a little outdated now, haha.

20" TN panel you could probably get for maybe $150-ish. S-IPS...maybe $300.

[JJpach]

Got two questions, if you can either answer me or point me to the answers that'd be great. Thx.

1. Does the price difference justify the quality of the Ultrasharp line?
2. Better resale value?
3. I'm deciding between this and a used 2309 for $220. What do you think?

[Soulsaber]

I'm surprised that they're not sold out yet.........seems like everyone is getting one of these. I bought 3 today :)

I think dell has a unlimited supply of their own monitors

[ASharp]

I think dell has a unlimited supply of their own monitors

Depending on the cost of making the monitors, they might be selling them at a loss in which case it wouldn't make much sense to offer an "unlimited" supply.

[akademiks]

These monitors were supposed to be bundled with business PC's apparently.
The bundle didn't happen and they have an oversupply of monitors.

[drool]

Depending on the cost of making the monitors, they might be selling them at a loss in which case it wouldn't make much sense to offer an "unlimited" supply.

Why would they sell at a loss they are not brick and mortar store, which want to sell you a bunch of hdmi cables for 100 bucks http://**********************/s/happy.gif

[wazabi]

z5500 doesn't work for epp...

damnit!

[jonnnny]

Got two questions, if you can either answer me or point me to the answers that'd be great. Thx.

1. Does the price difference justify the quality of the Ultrasharp line?
2. Better resale value?
3. I'm deciding between this and a used 2309 for $220. What do you think?

1) The biggest difference is the panel (TN vs e-IPS) as have been discussed dozens of times in this thread alone. You also get 4 usb ports and the rotatability.
2) Yes you get better resale value
3) For the same price, definitely the NEW 2209WA. Refer to 1).

[xtos]

i'm surprised no one has brought up the issue of lag. I'm tempted to buy myself, but have found contradicting reviews in regards to lag. So here are 3 differing results...
no lag http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=6010716
same as TN lag http://www.overclock.net/monitors-displays/467862-my-review-dell-2209wa-ips-panel.html
20ms lag http://www.techenclave.com/pc-peripherals/first-pics-dell-2209wa-action-56k-127430.html

thoughts?

[Airey]

Depending on the cost of making the monitors, they might be selling them at a loss in which case it wouldn't make much sense to offer an "unlimited" supply.

Ya, Dell would be willing to sell below cost. Please.
For as long as I can remember, I don't remember seeing Dell selling out it's own products (ie. by Dell).

[Keiki]

Anything below 20ms input lag is good, of course IPS panels most of the time do have higher input lag than TN but it's not nearly as bad as PVA panels.

I'm sure the average user won't notice the input lag on this monitor.

I'm surprised they're selling it at this price, gotta commend dell for giving fair prices on monitors. Although this is regarded as an economy IPS panel because it was manufactured a little differently to keep costs down, it's leaps over TN.

[GiOBoY]

oh god, f*** me. and a 2 thumbs up rfd's ass... I ordered 2.

LOL.. I couldn't have said it any better... hahaha

[gorillanutz]

oh god, f*** me. and a 2 thumbs up rfd's ass... I ordered 2.

Throw in a thumb for me too please. arghhhh Billy. :lol:

[lpsaad]

thx op

[zealotl]

just jumped on the band wagon and order 2 as well :) thanks OP.

[Tornado F2]

Does it really matter? If you clip 15 lines off the top and 15 lines off the bottom are you really going to notice?

I have my 23in Dell hooked up to my XBOX 360 at 1920 x 1080 resolution. I don't think it would work with those settings with this 22in 1680 x 1050 monitor, so I would have to switch the XBOX to a lower resolution. Since there is no 1680 x 1050 setting on the X360 it would not be set at the monitor's native res, meaning that the image will need to be scaled up (an extra processing step) or will display on the monitor with a black border (if no scaling takes place). So for my uses, with the X360, the 23in is the better monitor for me. If Dell were to come through with a good deal on an IPS monitor with 1920 x 1080 resolution though, especially one with an HDMI input, then I might feel some temptation to upgrade.

For now though, I'm very happy with the 23in monitor's image and performance so I'm in no rush to buy yet another monitor. Unless, of course, some RFDer in Niagara is looking to sell their month-old 23in for a good price to jump onto this 22in IPS deal, that is. Then I might be interested!:lol:

[Outphase]

I have my 23in Dell hooked up to my XBOX 360 at 1920 x 1080 resolution. I don't think it would work with those settings with this 22in 1680 x 1050 monitor, so I would have to switch the XBOX to a lower resolution. Since there is no 1680 x 1050 setting on the X360 it would not be set at the monitor's native res, meaning that the image will need to be scaled up (an extra processing step) or will display on the monitor with a black border (if no scaling takes place). So for my uses, with the X360, the 23in is the better monitor for me. If Dell were to come through with a good deal on an IPS monitor with 1920 x 1080 resolution though, especially one with an HDMI input, then I might feel some temptation to upgrade.

For now though, I'm very happy with the 23in monitor's image and performance so I'm in no rush to buy yet another monitor. Unless, of course, some RFDer in Niagara is looking to sell their month-old 23in for a good price to jump onto this 22in IPS deal, that is. Then I might be interested!:lol:

last time i checked, the xbox 360 NXE has support for resolution of 1440x900 and 1680x1050, most games aren't at 1080 anyway so the xbox natively scales for you.

[ovovov]

ordered
thanks op.

[Atom Bomb]

damn...if only this monitor had HDMI!

[nosnoop]

For as long as I can remember, I don't remember seeing Dell selling out it's own products (ie. by Dell).

It did. The 2709W was sold out in the December (2008) Days of Deals in the early afternoon. And the monitor was removed from the web site and not available for order even at regular price for sometime after the DoD.

[Tornado F2]

last time i checked, the xbox 360 NXE has support for resolution of 1440x900 and 1680x1050, most games aren't at 1080 anyway so the xbox natively scales for you.

From xbox.com:

"If you're using the Xbox 360 VGA HD AV Cable to connect your Xbox 360 console to a computer monitor or TV monitor with a VGA connection, you'll have the opportunity to select from a variety of resolutions. They are:
640 x 480
848 x 480
1024 x 768
1280 x 720 (equivalent to 720p)
1280 x 768
1280 x 1024
1360 x 768
1920 x 1080"

So you'd likely have to go with 1360 x 768 if using the VGA connector on this 22in monitor. The native 1920 x 1080 resolution of the 23in is clearly preferable in this case.

[tallshorty111]

I don't get how the 22" monitor is ultrasharp? It's resolution is 1680x1050 which is the same as my non-ultrasharp 22" E228WFP Dell monitor?

[Tornado F2]

I don't get how the 22" monitor is ultrasharp? It's resolution is 1680x1050 which is the same as my non-ultrasharp 22" E228WFP Dell monitor?

Razorblades on the power & control buttons!:lol:


I think it's just a marketing term for the fact that it uses a newer-tech display panel.

[Macross_Freek]

Those who are on the fence still have a day to decide :)

[Kellaen]

If you're really on the fence, just buy it. With Dell (unless this has changed in the last year) you can pretty much return it hassle free within 30 days. I know when my original 2407 was purchased then two days later went on another sale for over $150 cheaper, I had to buy another one and return the more expensive one. Not one speck of a problem doing that at all.

[Sniperbob]

I have a quick question about the Z-5500's do i need a receiver to hook those up to my TV? i'm kinda an audio noob and i've been looking for some nice small speakers to set up in my room, from the reviews these look like the ones any help is much appreciated

Thanks

[chinesedevil]

I have a quick question about the Z-5500's do i need a receiver to hook those up to my TV? i'm kinda an audio noob and i've been looking for some nice small speakers to set up in my room, from the reviews these look like the ones any help is much appreciated

Thanks

if ur tv has optical out, u can hook them up there, or u can use RCA to 3.5mm analog should do the work too, or digital coax (correct me on ths one, im not sure if the z-5500 have it) the Z-5500 control pod acts like a receiver

[Tornado F2]

Comparing specs, I noticed something interesting:

Today's UltraSharp 2209WA 22in:
"Temperature Range Operating:
5° to 35° C (41° to 95°F)"

Last month's S2309W 23in:
"Temperature Range Operating:
00 ° to 400 °C (320 ° to 1040 °F)"

So if you live in a furnace there is really only one option to go with - the S2309W 23in!:lol:

[anton204]

I'm very tempted to get on board with this monitor deal. Have been eyeing this thread for the whole day and reading reviews on the 2209WA

I currently own a HP w2207 and am very happy with it. Must not buy as I don't feel its much on an upgrade for me at the moment. Ahh the great debate :confused:. Now if it was slightly larger than I would get this.

[Tornado F2]

If you're really on the fence, just buy it. With Dell (unless this has changed in the last year) you can pretty much return it hassle free within 30 days. I know when my original 2407 was purchased then two days later went on another sale for over $150 cheaper, I had to buy another one and return the more expensive one. Not one speck of a problem doing that at all.

I think Dell will change the application of their policies if this is abused. They do have the right to charge shipping/restocking fees according to their currently-posted return policy, so no-hassle, no-charge returns shouldn't be taken as guaranteed. Buy one only if you have a real intent to keep it.

[nosnoop]

I have a quick question about the Z-5500's do i need a receiver to hook those up to my TV? i'm kinda an audio noob and i've been looking for some nice small speakers to set up in my room, from the reviews these look like the ones any help is much appreciated


Normally, you connect the video output (HDMI/Component) from your DVD or Blu-Ray/PS3 to your TV, and connect the audio output (digital Co-axial/optical) to the Z-5500. If you use HDMI (which also carries audio) for connection to your TV, you have the option of using the digital output from your TV.

BTW, even though the satellite speakers are small, the subwoofer (and the box it comes in) is huge. In addition, there is no EQ (treble/bass) adjustment at all for the Z-5500.

[Airey]

It did. The 2709W was sold out in the December (2008) Days of Deals in the early afternoon. And the monitor was removed from the web site and not available for order even at regular price for sometime after the DoD.

Oh ya...that's right. Good one. I forgot.

[zoire]

this.... is...... sooooo.. hard..... to...... resist.........

[thedarkhorse]

I can attest to the 2209WA, I got mine last week, paid $370+ tax for it(calling tomorrow to see if they can credit me the $150 difference).

It's an exceptional monitor, bright, crisp, and great colors. Viewing angles are also excellent & the build quality is top notch. The ips panel is what sold me on getting this as I do video editing with it.
Was worth the $370 and is definitely worth the $220 it's on sale for now.

[jon604]

if you save it on your cart (account) for the next day (in case its sold out later), will it guarantee you that item? I need to get approval from work to purchase one for my desk.

[reggielist]

man, i have been reading the comments on the site and man, can't anybody read or whatttttttt???

this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS

it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS

from what i have "read", the e-IPS is completely new, just invented by LG... and the LG is a 23" e-IPS, this 22" might not even be a LG panel...

so where do all these people come up with "this S-IPS is better than a TN panel"...

this is NOT a friggin' S-IPS

there are almost no reviews of the e-IPS... there are NO long term studies of the e-IPS... who the frig knows anything about this e-IPS monitor, it has never been friggin' released by Dell before...

at best, even if it can be called an IPS panel, it has cutbacks to reduce cost, so it will may never be equal to a S-IPS...

at worst, it may not work like LG is claiming... their production techniques might not work correctly...

all that said, this new technology might be amazing and work GREAT!!!

but who the frig knows that right "now"... it has never been released before...

so how about "this new e-IPS has the potential to be much better than TN panels"

comments???

[lunaris]

man, i have been reading the comments on the site and man, can't anybody read or whatttttttt???

this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS

it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS

from what i have "read", the e-IPS is completely new, just invented by LG... and the LG is a 23" e-IPS, this 22" might not even be a LG panel...

so where do all these people come up with "this S-IPS is better than a TN panel"...

this is NOT a friggin' S-IPS

there are almost no reviews of the e-IPS... there are NO long term studies of the e-IPS... who the frig knows anything about this e-IPS monitor, it has never been friggin' released by Dell before...

at best, even if it can be called an IPS panel, it has cutbacks to reduce cost, so it will may never be equal to a S-IPS...

at worst, it may not work like LG is claiming... their production techniques might not work correctly...

all that said, this new technology might be amazing and work GREAT!!!

but who the frig knows that right "now"... it has never been released before...

so how about "this new e-IPS has the potential to be much better than TN panels"

comments???


nice avatar

[happypig]

from what i have "read", the e-IPS is completely new, just invented by LG... and the LG is a 23" e-IPS, this 22" might not even be a LG panel...




http://publish.it168.com/2009/0209/20090209029007.shtml


It's confirmed to be by LG, period.

Check out the viewing angle of this beauty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coMpfMS91No

[hugewallet]

http://publish.it168.com/2009/0209/20090209029007.shtml


It's confirmed to be by LG, period.

Check out the viewing angle of this beauty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coMpfMS91No


LOL, the first link!

[happypig]

it has never been released before...




http://media.daum.net/digital/all/view.html?cateid=1008&newsid=20081031060106341&p=etimesi


It's in Korean but it's saying the e-IPS panels have been used in the TV's sold in the Chinese market and LG has been planning to use them in monitors early this year. Plus, there's a mention of increasing the production of LED BLUs (Back Light Unit) to 50% in 2009 and to almost 100% by 2010.

[reggielist]

nice avatar

thanks

it's from giger

the guy is Ultramega OK

[buddhababy]

Stand demonstration, pretty sweet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiBxe3RhYXU&feature=related

CNET review:
http://www.cnet.com.au/desktops/monitors/0,239029422,339294389,00.htm

[myleftnut]

man, i have been reading the comments on the site and man, can't anybody read or whatttttttt???

this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS

it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS

from what i have "read", the e-IPS is completely new, just invented by LG... and the LG is a 23" e-IPS, this 22" might not even be a LG panel...

so where do all these people come up with "this S-IPS is better than a TN panel"...

this is NOT a friggin' S-IPS

there are almost no reviews of the e-IPS... there are NO long term studies of the e-IPS... who the frig knows anything about this e-IPS monitor, it has never been friggin' released by Dell before...

at best, even if it can be called an IPS panel, it has cutbacks to reduce cost, so it will may never be equal to a S-IPS...

at worst, it may not work like LG is claiming... their production techniques might not work correctly...

all that said, this new technology might be amazing and work GREAT!!!

but who the frig knows that right "now"... it has never been released before...

so how about "this new e-IPS has the potential to be much better than TN panels"

comments???

Everyone's thinking it's S-IPS just cause they see IPS. There was an article where they analyzed the structure of the pixels and figured out that the e-IPS screens were using lower quality H-IPS type technology with TN type backlighting and filter for their new e-IPS. This is where they get the stated "detuned" IPS from. So in the end you get a panel that has pixel structure similar to H-IPS but inferior to the better S-IPS or H-IPS with their usual backlighting, colour gamut, and filters/polarizers, etc... However, it's still better than a TN and you get slight edge over VA type panels with much less input lag and slightly better viewing angle in terms of washout, but the colour space is about on par with older VA panels and such.

[najibs]

man, i have been reading the comments on the site and man, can't anybody read or whatttttttt???

this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS

it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS

from what i have "read", the e-IPS is completely new, just invented by LG... and the LG is a 23" e-IPS, this 22" might not even be a LG panel...

so where do all these people come up with "this S-IPS is better than a TN panel"...

this is NOT a friggin' S-IPS

there are almost no reviews of the e-IPS... there are NO long term studies of the e-IPS... who the frig knows anything about this e-IPS monitor, it has never been friggin' released by Dell before...

at best, even if it can be called an IPS panel, it has cutbacks to reduce cost, so it will may never be equal to a S-IPS...

at worst, it may not work like LG is claiming... their production techniques might not work correctly...

all that said, this new technology might be amazing and work GREAT!!!

but who the frig knows that right "now"... it has never been released before...

so how about "this new e-IPS has the potential to be much better than TN panels"

comments???

Yeah, I have a comment.....READ THE FCUKING REVIEWS! This monitor has been out for a few weeks, and there already are reviews out there. It's not like we're entering into unchartered waters :rolleyes:

[zoob]

Caved and ordered a 2209WA ... :twisted:

[steivewonder88]

ordered one of the 2209WA! thanks!

[reggielist]

Everyone's thinking it's S-IPS just cause they see IPS. There was an article where they analyzed the structure of the pixels and figured out that the e-IPS screens were using lower quality H-IPS type technology with TN type backlighting and filter for their new e-IPS. This is where they get the stated "detuned" IPS from. So in the end you get a panel that has pixel structure similar to H-IPS but inferior to the better S-IPS or H-IPS with their usual backlighting, colour gamut, and filters/polarizers, etc... However, it's still better than a TN and you get slight edge over VA type panels with much less input lag and slightly better viewing angle in terms of washout, but the colour space is about on par with older VA panels and such.

wowwww...

greattttttttt summation of the issues...

thanks very much

only 5 posts... i guess the newer people write a better comment than the ancient people like najibs who have nothing better to say than READ THE FCUKING REVIEWS!

pretty revealing

[Faeton]

Ah, broke down and ordered one.

FYI, a guy at DPReview has done a quick write-up about it, (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1004&message=30952937) and his colour calibration settings. Pretty detailed.

[LegiT]

wowwww...

greattttttttt summation of the issues...

thanks very much

only 5 posts... i guess the newer people write a better comment than the ancient people like najibs who have nothing better to say than READ THE FCUKING REVIEWS!

pretty revealing


Well, you're just bashing the monitor and not providing verified/true input...long term studies? Who's writing the scientific reports for monitors? Link please.

You say there are no reviews...internet says otherwise. False statement on your count. How are you so sure their production won't work properly? State the flaws in their process.

Never been released before as in Canada is the first to release it?...go search for reviews and other forums where MANY purchased this back in early February. Reviews have rated this monitor quite well in comparison to others in the same price range.

Of course, this won't stack up well to the S-IPS but that's another story. Performance(Quality) / $.

[hytong]

For me it would be a lot better for my needs since the 2209WA is apparently a sRGB monitor. The 2408WFP is wide gamut and makes everything look more saturated than a cloth soaked in kryptonite.

over saturation happens when you view sRGB on wide gamut monitor through non color-managed application, this 2209WA 72% NTSC monitor is good as a second monitor checking this exact scenario (sRGB on web browser for example) or simply an sRGB monitor

[drool]

FYI, a guy at DPReview has done a quick write-up about it, (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1004&message=30952937) and his colour calibration settings. Pretty detailed.

That's a neat guide thank you for sharing this http://**********************/s/happy.gif

[mcg]

I checked the quality of the viewing angles and colour on DigitalVersus.

It doesn't seem too shabby at all when stacked against the 2007WFP, being an S-IPS.

http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=88&mo1=470&p1=4605&ma2=88&mo2=106&p2=1042&ph=1

^ Yeah unfortunately most applications don't do colour management, haha

[mahjongmaniac]

I'm surprised that they're not sold out yet.........seems like everyone is getting one of these. I bought 3 today :)

"usually ships: 1-2 wks"

it sounds like to me they're on B/O


i couldn't resist and finally ordered one :D

[Kellaen]

I think Dell will change the application of their policies if this is abused. They do have the right to charge shipping/restocking fees according to their currently-posted return policy, so no-hassle, no-charge returns shouldn't be taken as guaranteed. Buy one only if you have a real intent to keep it.
Maybee things have changed then, because the service rep I called is the one that told me to just order another and return the first :-0

[Derringdo]

man, i have been reading the comments on the site and man, can't anybody read or whatttttttt???

this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS
this is NOT a S-IPS

it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS
it's a friggin' e-IPS

from what i have "read", the e-IPS is completely new, just invented by LG... and the LG is a 23" e-IPS, this 22" might not even be a LG panel...

so where do all these people come up with "this S-IPS is better than a TN panel"...

this is NOT a friggin' S-IPS

there are almost no reviews of the e-IPS... there are NO long term studies of the e-IPS... who the frig knows anything about this e-IPS monitor, it has never been friggin' released by Dell before...

at best, even if it can be called an IPS panel, it has cutbacks to reduce cost, so it will may never be equal to a S-IPS...

at worst, it may not work like LG is claiming... their production techniques might not work correctly...

all that said, this new technology might be amazing and work GREAT!!!

but who the frig knows that right "now"... it has never been released before...

so how about "this new e-IPS has the potential to be much better than TN panels"

comments???

First of all, if you actually read the thread you'd know that people aren't claiming that this is an S-IPS panel. There has been tons of discussion on the e-IPS panel that this monitor uses. Can you read?

It is definitely made by LG as there are pictures of the sticker on the monitor clearly stating a LG model number. As well, LG produces most of the IPS panels on the market today. You also can look up the 2209WA on tftcentral.co.uk and see the LG model number for yourself.

People are saying this IPS monitor is better than TN because, well, there have been reviews comparing this exact e-IPS monitor side-by-side with similar TN panels, and this Dell is clearly superior in terms of colour reproduction, viewing angles, etc. No one claims that it is as good as S-IPS, but it is definitely IPS technology that has been modified to be cheaper to produce, while maintaining most of the benefits that IPS provides over other panel technologies.

If you had spent the time you did on writing this obvious troll of a post on researching e-IPS instead, you might have saved us all some time and aggravation.

[dairymandip]

it's so hard to resist, but I'm trying not to buy things I don't need :(

[ChopSuey]

it's so hard to resist, but I'm trying not to buy things I don't need :(

Buy it, and if you decide you don't need it, either send it back to DELL and get your money back, or resell it for a profit, and you make a little money. You really can't lose with this deal. :)

[GiOBoY]

CHOP...

If you had spent the time you did on writing this obvious troll of a post on researching e-IPS instead, you might have saved us all some time and aggravation.

Here's a youtube video of the difference (a visual perspective only):

IPS VERSUS TN FILM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG7XNwbUYEM)

I'm not sure if it is an e-IPS.. but this shows the general visual differences...

[GiOBoY]

it's so hard to resist, but I'm trying not to buy things I don't need :(

resistance is futile... :lol:

[discostupid]

i nominate reggielist for ban

several of the reviews state that the eIPS technology has most of the benefits of sIPS with no real downside. wtf is wrong with you

it's clearly better than TN. and probably better than VA. so what if it's not the be-all-end-all of IPS. It's $250 shipped. Try and find another GOOD 22" TN for this price. With adjustable height. And 4 USB. And 3 year warranty. Fool.

[StE823]

I think Dell will change the application of their policies if this is abused. They do have the right to charge shipping/restocking fees according to their currently-posted return policy, so no-hassle, no-charge returns shouldn't be taken as guaranteed. Buy one only if you have a real intent to keep it.

i returned a monitor from dell before, only one question and no hassle...
full refund and free shipping for return

[jimmyzaas]

WOW. Free shipping for return also? What a deal!

[slomo]

You don't need to justify your purchases to others. If somebody else thinks that the products you bought suck, it does not in anyway reflect negatively on you. Attitude like this is what leads to fanboyism.

It does not make you less smart if you have your reasons and had researched the alternatives thoroughly.

[ZenOps]

TN isn't all bad. The SP2309 has 98% gamut (not over 100% like some which look day-glow when using normal apps) and can be overdriven to 2ms gray to gray (great for gaming) at the expense of a little more power draw.

Nowadays the backlight is more important - of which none of the manufacturers tend to mention what combination of backlights they use.

[Derringdo]

TN isn't all bad. The SP2309 has 98% gamut (not over 100% like some which look day-glow when using normal apps) and can be overdriven to 2ms gray to gray (great for gaming) at the expense of a little more power draw.

Nowadays the backlight is more important - of which none of the manufacturers tend to mention what combination of backlights they use.

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the 98% gamut of TN overstated because it's achieved through dithering and such? I see distinct banding on mine with certain gradients.

I think e-IPS is still backlit using CCFL technology, just a more efficient and cost-effective version than previous IPS panels.

[IntrepidRT]

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the 98% gamut of TN overstated because it's achieved through dithering and such? I see distinct banding on mine with certain gradients.

I think e-IPS is still backlit using CCFL technology, just a more efficient version than previous panels.
Probably still backlit with CCFL, I didn't see ANYTHING to indicate that it uses LED's. Too bad......I would've paid an extra $100+ for RGB LED backlighting.

[chocho111]

What would be the best deal one could get/have gotten on the Dell UltraSharp 24" monitor (2408WFP)?

I am always dreaming about a large quality LCD monitor and am wondering should I jump on this 22" or wait to get similar killer deal on the 24".

Also, will I need to replace my video card(Asus Nvidia N6600) to be able to use the full capability of any of those two monitors (2209WA or 2408WFP)

Would appreciate your comments.
Thanks.

[Intro]

What would be the best deal one could get/have gotten on the Dell UltraSharp 24" monitor (2408WFP)?

I am always dreaming about a large quality LCD monitor and am wondering should I jump on this 22" or wait to get similar killer deal on the 24".

Also, will I need to replace my video card to be able to use the fullacapability of any of those two monitors (2209WA or 2408WFP)

Would appreciate your comments.
Thanks.

The 2408WFP was selling for 500$ about a month ago. Though I don't know if that's the lowest it's been.

Most video cards should be able to run these monitors at their native resolutions. Though if you're into recent games, you'll probably have to tone down to medium settings for the 24", well that's depending on your video card anyways.

[Derringdo]

The 2408 has sold for a historical low of $450 on one Dell Days of Deals, but hasn't been seen for that price since. Your 6600 would really struggle playing any modern games at the native resolution of these 24 inchers.

[ZenOps]

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the 98% gamut of TN overstated because it's achieved through dithering and such? I see distinct banding on mine with certain gradients.

I think e-IPS is still backlit using CCFL technology, just a more efficient and cost-effective version than previous IPS panels.

Most TN panels made before last year (08 models) are dithered 6-bit. Some of the 09 models that specifically state 16.7 million colours are 8-bit TN panels.

If you see gradients, turn off the overdrive and/or calibrate out of range colours. I believe the way they achieve 2ms is by using 6-bit "speed" flipping, if you want more accurate colours you must live with 5ms response.

The "SP" is sold out in Canada and not even listed on Dells site anymore. It can still be found on the US site for $379US (approx $500 Cdn). Very powerful TN class with expensive backlighting, for those who know and bought them out - more power. IMO, depending on what you use it for - a high quality backlit TN can be superior to IPS and VA (puts flame suit on)

[MACMAC]

Hey, has anyone been able to check their order status yet?

Probably a little hasty on my part (it's been 24 hours), but just want to ensure that everything is A-OK.

[shoryukenz]

Most TN panels made before last year (08 models) are dithered 6-bit. Some of the 09 models that specifically state 16.7 million colours are 8-bit TN panels.


What is your source to back this up? I have not heard of such a thing.

[Derringdo]

Most TN panels made before last year (08 models) are dithered 6-bit. Some of the 09 models that specifically state 16.7 million colours are 8-bit TN panels.

If you see gradients, turn off the overdrive and/or calibrate out of range colours. I believe the way they achieve 2ms is by using 6-bit "speed" flipping, if you want more accurate colours you must live with 5ms response.

The "SP" is sold out in Canada and not even listed on Dells site anymore. It can still be found on the US site for $379US (approx $500 Cdn). Very powerful TN class with expensive backlighting, for those who know and bought them out - more power. IMO, depending on what you use it for - a high quality backlit TN can be superior to IPS and VA (puts flame suit on)

I see, I wasn't aware that they were finally producing 8-bit TN panels. However, I'm still a bit skeptical on TN as even though they're finally moving into 8-bit territory. The technology behind TN panels means that they'll inherently suffer from poorer viewing angles and contrast/colour shifts if you move your head even a bit off center.

[Kellaen]

Hey, has anyone been able to check their order status yet?

Probably a little hasty on my part (it's been 24 hours), but just want to ensure that everything is A-OK.

Status as of 3/5/2009 2:34:07 PM Eastern Standard Time

Order Date: 3/4/09 Production Date: 3/5/2009


Your order has been received and entered into Dell's Order Management System.
That is what mine is saying.

[Derringdo]

What is your source to back this up? I have not heard of such a thing.

I looked it up and found this article: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/6bit_8bit.htm

[chocho111]

The 2408 has sold for a historical low of $450 on one Dell Days of Deals, but hasn't been seen for that price since. Your 6600 would really struggle playing any modern games at the native resolution of these 24 inchers.

Quite a difference even at that "one time price" I'd say...more then double the cost of the 22"...It looks like it'll be the 2209WA. Don't know if 2 extra inches "cost" $250 extra.
I take it my Nvidia 6600 will work fine with the 2209WA then right?
It'll be mostly office work/Internet browsing/movie watching...not much into the games thing.
Thanks again for your input.

[Kellaen]

If all you're doing is that, then a 6600 should be more then enough. Hell, my 128mb Radeon 9800 pro can still play wow at 1920x1200 on my 2407WFP, albeit at low settings.

[Derringdo]

Keep in mind that the 2209WA is lower resolution than the 2408 (1680x1050 versus 1920x1200 respectively).

Also Kellaen, the 6600 and 9800 pro are pretty similar in terms of performance ;)

[booboi]

How would this monitor stack up to gaming (ps3)?

Debating between this monitor or moving to a 24" with hdmi + 1920x1200 resolution

[Intro]

How would this monitor stack up to gaming (ps3)?

Debating between this monitor or moving to a 24" with hdmi + 1920x1200 resolution

Same! If only there was a sweet 24" panel on sale.

[philharmonic]

How would this monitor stack up to gaming (ps3)?

Debating between this monitor or moving to a 24" with hdmi + 1920x1200 resolution

Only if you really care about having 1080p. Otherwise, I find that I can't really tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on monitors smaller than 32".

[avx]

it's so hard to resist, but I'm trying not to buy things I don't need :(

i know what you mean... i bought that $99 GPS. Don't really need it... I've bought many things on here, just because I saw "this deal is HOT"... its the RFD plague... curse you, I'm turning into a RFD zombie.

[booboi]

Only if you really care about having 1080p. Otherwise, I find that I can't really tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on monitors smaller than 32".

Thats true, but would the 6ms response time be sufficient for gaming?

[chocho111]

Ordered!
Will ship on March 12.
Thanks for the help guys.

[crasher]

Still resisting the temptation. I knew it was very hard not to buy the 23" @ $170. But this is a much better deal than that. When 24" ultrasharp is @ $250 I will pull the trigger. Till than must resist:twisted:

[ditto]

I need a suggestion: I got the Acer P244 Bii (24" 1920x1080) few weeks back for $230+tax at Staples. Now I am debating if I really need this dell e-IPS panel. I cannot afford two monitors, so given I can sell my 1 month old Acer for the same price, should I get this dell, if
- I am not gaming
- I dont watch movie on it
- mainly office work, browsing, office software
- my wife does some Photoshop design, but just for fun, not a professional
- I am OK with current Acer, no complain, I know this is a so-so panel.

I do love the 4 usb ports, adjustable base (but I am using a wall mount), but I see many people emphasize the viewing angle, for me it seems not a big deal.

Thanks for your suggestion. I have read few reveiws but still hope to hear some in person words about my situation.

[bokep]

:cheesygri Just throwing this out there, I'm looking to buy a 19"-22" LCD monitor for $100-150. If you're thinking about this and want to sell your old comp, PM me :).

[drool]

I need a suggestion: I got the Acer P244 Bii (24" 1920x1080) few weeks back for $230+tax at Staples. Now I am debating if I really need this dell e-IPS panel. I cannot afford two monitors, so given I can sell my 1 month old Acer for the same price, should I get this dell, if
- I am not gaming
- I dont watch movie on it
- mainly office work, browsing, office software
- my wife does some Photoshop design, but just for fun, not a professional
- I am OK with current Acer, no complain, I know this is a so-so panel.

I do love the 4 usb ports, adjustable base (but I am using a wall mount), but I see many people emphasize the viewing angle, for me it seems not a big deal.

Thanks for your suggestion. I have read few reveiws but still hope to hear some in person words about my situation.

I would avoid the hassle, plus its hard to get the same price for a used monitor.

[horco]

Good stuff. Thanks a lot. http://www.*******************/user1/sper.gif

[ahsalloum]

I have a question. Does Dell charge you before shipping or do you only get charged when they ship the item?

[thedarkhorse]

They charged me after I received my 2209wa, same with the z-5500 speakers I bought last fall.

[ditto]

I would avoid the hassle, plus its hard to get the same price for a used monitor.

thanks for your advice. I will enjoy the extra 2" then :)

[cactus88]

I have a question. Does Dell charge you before shipping or do you only get charged when they ship the item?

I think i've been charged after i got confirmation email

[BoxsterS]

Most TN panels made before last year (08 models) are dithered 6-bit. Some of the 09 models that specifically state 16.7 million colours are 8-bit TN panels.

If you see gradients, turn off the overdrive and/or calibrate out of range colours. I believe the way they achieve 2ms is by using 6-bit "speed" flipping, if you want more accurate colours you must live with 5ms response.



I really don't think there are any 8 bit TN panels. If there were then you wouldn't see such a price discrepancy between MVA/PVA and IPS panels. There's a reason why TN panels are less expensive - they're cheaper to manufacture. An 8 bit TN panel with a low GtG pixel response time and equal viewing angles would negate any consideration of a IPS, MVA or PVA panel.

When you do discover that elusive 8 bit TN panel, be sure to update the Wikipedia entry.

[jmgk]

SO I caved on the monitor too. It just looked so pretty. That and I got some government money so... it had to be done. :D

[Zenphic]

Same here, I couldn't resist the UltraSharp 2209WA!

[GiOBoY]

They charged me after I received my 2209wa, same with the z-5500 speakers I bought last fall.

There's a shipping charge? But on checkout it says shipping and handling is $0.00.

How much extra are we all looking at here? :confused:

[4flava]

There's a shipping charge? But on checkout it says shipping and handling is $0.00.

How much extra are we all looking at here? :confused:

Where did you read where he said there's a shipping charge??..lol

shipping is FREE!!.. FREE!!

[Caspar]

There's a shipping charge? But on checkout it says shipping and handling is $0.00.

How much extra are we all looking at here? :confused:

No, shipping is free

[McLaren]

Does Dell remove this sale at midnight? or do they go by pacific time? If you wait till 12 am to order, you could possibly score 10x airmiles and 25 bonus miles using www.airmilesshops.ca

[drool]

Does Dell remove this sale at midnight? or do they go by pacific time? If you wait till 12 am to order, you could possibly score 10x airmiles and 25 bonus miles using www.airmilesshops.ca

I would just order and request a credit from airmile shops later, you'll get confirmation tomorrow anyways http://**********************/s/happy.gif

[mcg]

Mine is going to ship on the 11th, how about you guys?

[Alias]

Had it been glossy I think I would jump on it :(

[Goonish]

Had it been glossy I think I would jump on it :(
Why would anyone WANT glossy screens? I find the glare from ambient lighting unbearable and degrading to the image quality.

[horco]

Good deal regardless of gloss or no gloss lol.
http://www.*******************/user1/sper.gif

[kidgoku]

Had it been glossy I think I would jump on it :(

Hope your not serious:|

[akademiks]

Why do people prefer matte?? I have a glossy screen on my laptop and I love it.

[sonspot]

Actually, you want the 23 inch HD one you missed from the Dell Days of the Sale...I also missed that one and waiting for it again.

i got this one, they sent me a replacement but i sent both of them back, think i'll get the ultra sharp instead

[Alias]

Why do people prefer matte?? I have a glossy screen on my laptop and I love it.

I agree. I have a beautiful glossy screen on my macbook and just bought a great HP w2207h (glossy) as an external monitor from futureshop (they had a price error too :) ). Yes, right now at school there is some glare from the light behind me. But when I move back home in 6 weeks or so there shouldn't be much, if any glare.

[sonspot]

I agree. I have a beautiful glossy screen on my macbook and just bought a great HP w2207h (glossy) as an external monitor from futureshop (they had a price error too :) ). Yes, right now at school there is some glare from the light behind me. But when I move back home in 6 weeks or so there shouldn't be much, if any glare.

you just answered the question, a lot of people have their workspace close to a window or in front of one.

[ahsalloum]

Okay, I ordered this beauty! Looks like a worst case scenario is a dead pixel or some calibration. No biggie. Sweet deal, thanks OP! Pumped to get this! :cheesygri

[anton204]

Arghh Must resist this monitor... I know I will kick myself for not getting this monitor... :mad:

[ahsalloum]

Arghh Must resist this monitor... I know I will kick myself for not getting this monitor... :mad:

I resisted the 23", which was nothing special really, except that it was a hot deal. I thought this was worth the upgrade from my 226BW and the price was alright. I am building a new computer this summer so I needed a new screen, this seems great, especially since it's been reported on hardwareforum that the deal is because of overstock on a business bundle that never worked.

[babu928]

I am extremely interested in buying this monitor... just wondering if anyone has the EPP site so perhaps I can get more discount :P

[anton204]

I resisted the 23", which was nothing special really, except that it was a hot deal. I thought this was worth the upgrade from my 226BW and the price was alright. I am building a new computer this summer so I needed a new screen, this seems great, especially since it's been reported on hardwareforum that the deal is because of overstock on a business bundle that never worked.

I resisted. You almost had me but I'm happy with my HP w2207 (glossy TN) for now (no rush in replacing it). This would be a good upgrade but I'm looking to upgrade in size as well in the future. Hopefully another UltraSharp larger than 22 comes up in the future but this price is definitely HOT!!!!

[Tornado F2]

i returned a monitor from dell before, only one question and no hassle...
full refund and free shipping for return

A few returns shouldn't be a problem. But if they start getting a lot of returns of perfectly good monitors, and start incurring significant losses on the shipping, then they will have to clamp down. Any business would.

[jon604]

I am extremely interested in buying this monitor... just wondering if anyone has the EPP site so perhaps I can get more discount :P

the EPP i used don't even have this one listed.. i fotgot to call and ask the rep today but i doubt any additional discounts.. i even tried the 15%-50% coupon. so i bought one at the 48hr price and shipping it to work. i'm surprised its not sold out.

[Tornado F2]

Buy it, and if you decide you don't need it, either send it back to DELL and get your money back, or resell it for a profit, and you make a little money. You really can't lose with this deal. :)

Unless his wife throws him out for buying yet more "junk"!:lol:

[babu928]

the EPP i used don't even have this one listed.. i fotgot to call and ask the rep today but i doubt any additional discounts.. i even tried the 15%-50% coupon. so i bought one at the 48hr price and shipping it to work. i'm surprised its not sold out.

Do you know if this price is going to last until 5:59AM on Mar 06???
because airmiles also has a 10X event starting March 06...

[Tornado F2]

resistance is futile... :lol:

Except when it comes to tech purchases - there's always going to be a better deal, eventually. Just look at all the people who bought the 23in S2309W last month just because it was an insanely hot deal, yet several are now talking about selling that one to go with this instead!

Personally I'll be staying with the 23in, mostly because I like the fact that it supports full HD resolution (1080) with the X360, which was my main reason for buying it. I already have USB hubs (you can find them pretty cheap if you look), and a resourceful person can always find ways to raise a monitor to the desired height. For those who need to frequently adjust the height or swivel the monitor, monitor arms can sometimes be found for less than $50, and they should work with future monitors too, so it's a one-time purchase, potentially saving money in the long run.

The eIPS technology may give a better image, but I've not seen one yet so I don't know if it really makes that much of a difference. I'll check on peoples' comments when these monitors come in, and if the difference sounds significant enough I'll be ready when the 23in or 24in 1080 deals come in over the next few months. With all the business sector cutbacks I think we'll be seeing a lot of good deals trying to part us from our money!

For now, 23in full HD, with a 3 year warranty, for $170 seems a better deal to me than today's offering. But for those who missed that deal, and don't need full HD, this 22in is a much better deal than you'll find in the local big box stores.

[Rx-87]

:arrowu:

Tis true..

However for some reason the max refresh rate on these monitors by Dell..

Regardless if its "Ultrasharp" or otherwise... is 60 hz regardless of what panel unless you buy their super expensive ones...


And some games require higher refresh rates than 60 hz on certain resolutions..

I found out the hard way for the new Prince of Persia.... which kinda sucked HARD...

Since I had wanted to play on my 24" Dell S2409w from 2 dell days of deals ago........

Had to resort to an old but trusty "gaming 19" monitor" that runs at a 2 ms refresh rate and can go up pass 75hz if necessary.... a Viewsonic VX922




Only monitor I could find by Dell that had a panel refresh rate above 60 hz was this... and I guess its because its a 30" panel and its needed to not have display irregularities..

Dell 24" Ultrasharp specs - resolution capped 60hz (http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=320-6272)

30" Ultrasharp tech specs (http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=223-4890)

Sighh... guess Dell is still a Dell ;)

[a in yul]

still available for those sitting on the fence...!!

[ahsalloum]

:arrowu:

Tis true..

However for some reason the max refresh rate on these monitors by Dell..

Regardless if its "Ultrasharp" or otherwise... is 60 hz regardless of what panel unless you buy their super expensive ones...


And some games require higher refresh rates than 60 hz on certain resolutions..

I found out the hard way for the new Prince of Persia.... which kinda sucked HARD...

Since I had wanted to play on my 24" Dell S2409w from 2 dell days of deals ago........

Had to resort to an old but trusty "gaming 19" monitor" that runs at a 2 ms refresh rate and can go up pass 75hz if necessary.... a Viewsonic VX922




Only monitor I could find by Dell that had a panel refresh rate above 60 hz was this... and I guess its because its a 30" panel and its needed to not have display irregularities..

Dell 24" Ultrasharp specs - resolution capped 60hz (http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=320-6272)

30" Ultrasharp tech specs (http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=223-4890)

Sighh... guess Dell is still a Dell ;)

I thought refresh rate is meaningless when it comes to LCD technology. I've used three different LCD screens in the past couple of years and all of them had one default refresh rate. I thought the response rate is what matters in LCD.

[Spyder187]

Man I forgot to use my mom's airmiles number again. I never understood what was so great about airmiles but should I reorder now to get the airmiles? Doesn't it take forever to get enough airmiles to exchange it for anything..?

[TeriyakiJack]

Man I forgot to use my mom's airmiles number again. I never understood what was so great about airmiles but should I reorder now to get the airmiles? Doesn't it take forever to get enough airmiles to exchange it for anything..?

It'll only take longer if you decide to forego them at every opportunity.

[Spyder187]

It'll only take longer if you decide to forego them at every opportunity.

My order says it's in production now and that the estimated ship date is 3/20/09, can I still cancel?

[a in yul]

My order says it's in production now and that the estimated ship date is 3/20/09, can I still cancel?

call CSR and send them an email asap;

[Spyder187]

call CSR and send them an email asap;

Thanks for the response. I looked up the customer service line and it says they open at 7am EST.

Unfortunately, I think I'll forgo the airmiles. It could delay my shipping date, etc. With the 10x offer and 25 bonus, I calculated it's like missing out on $10 cash...

[a in yul]

Thanks for the response. I looked up the customer service line and it says they open at 7am EST.

Unfortunately, I think I'll forgo the airmiles. It could delay my shipping date, etc. With the 10x offer and 25 bonus, I calculated it's like missing out on $10 cash...

dont feel bad about the airmiles, i am not sure they apply right now although its technically march 06th, i think its like the dell offers, after 6 or 7am only...

PS:surprisingly the monitor is still priced at 219$...!!

[yu119995]

Except when it comes to tech purchases - there's always going to be a better deal, eventually. Just look at all the people who bought the 23in S2309W last month just because it was an insanely hot deal, yet several are now talking about selling that one to go with this instead!

Personally I'll be staying with the 23in, mostly because I like the fact that it supports full HD resolution (1080) with the X360, which was my main reason for buying it. I already have USB hubs (you can find them pretty cheap if you look), and a resourceful person can always find ways to raise a monitor to the desired height. For those who need to frequently adjust the height or swivel the monitor, monitor arms can sometimes be found for less than $50, and they should work with future monitors too, so it's a one-time purchase, potentially saving money in the long run.

The eIPS technology may give a better image, but I've not seen one yet so I don't know if it really makes that much of a difference. I'll check on peoples' comments when these monitors come in, and if the difference sounds significant enough I'll be ready when the 23in or 24in 1080 deals come in over the next few months. With all the business sector cutbacks I think we'll be seeing a lot of good deals trying to part us from our money!

For now, 23in full HD, with a 3 year warranty, for $170 seems a better deal to me than today's offering. But for those who missed that deal, and don't need full HD, this 22in is a much better deal than you'll find in the local big box stores.

I'm a web a developer and it's not uncommon for me to spend 12-14 hours a day in front of my computer so colour depth, viewing angle and overall picture quality are a must. Based on the reviews that I've read this is quite the panel as well. I've already bought one and I'm thinking about getting another. What a delightful dilemma.

[a in yul]

well, no need to worry anymore, its gone back up in price..!!

[ClubberLang]

i missed out :(. I don't even see the model listed on the page any more. What was normal retail on this?

[GiOBoY]

Except when it comes to tech purchases - there's always going to be a better deal, eventually. Just look at all the people who bought the 23in S2309W last month just because it was an insanely hot deal, yet several are now talking about selling that one to go with this instead!

Personally I'll be staying with the 23in, mostly because I like the fact that it supports full HD resolution (1080) with the X360, which was my main reason for buying it. I already have USB hubs (you can find them pretty cheap if you look), and a resourceful person can always find ways to raise a monitor to the desired height. For those who need to frequently adjust the height or swivel the monitor, monitor arms can sometimes be found for less than $50, and they should work with future monitors too, so it's a one-time purchase, potentially saving money in the long run.

The eIPS technology may give a better image, but I've not seen one yet so I don't know if it really makes that much of a difference. I'll check on peoples' comments when these monitors come in, and if the difference sounds significant enough I'll be ready when the 23in or 24in 1080 deals come in over the next few months. With all the business sector cutbacks I think we'll be seeing a lot of good deals trying to part us from our money!

For now, 23in full HD, with a 3 year warranty, for $170 seems a better deal to me than today's offering. But for those who missed that deal, and don't need full HD, this 22in is a much better deal than you'll find in the local big box stores.

I totally agree with you dude... technology items do appreciate fast... probably faster than an automobile (in terms of percentage) but I am upgrading from a 10 yr old 17" CRT, which makes sense for me. But since you already bought the 23" panel, if I were you, I wouldn't buy this either.

For me I always wanted a 24"... but Dell continuously kept producing models with inherent problems and flaws. Plus the horror stories in the forums kept me on the sidelines until now. The 2209WA has some known issues, but none of them are a cause for concern to me and the reviews all over the net seem to be rather positive.

[rui]

both are good deals for me,I got both.

[slomo]

- my wife does some Photoshop design, but just for fun, not a professional
- I am OK with current Acer, no complain, I know this is a so-so panel.

I do love the 4 usb ports, adjustable base (but I am using a wall mount), but I see many people emphasize the viewing angle, for me it seems not a big deal.

If you have no complain with your Acer, then don't bother with this deal. To get the most out of any monitor for colour works you need to calibrate it using Spyder or other calibration hardware. It is just about impossible to calibrate a monitor that use dithering to simulate colour, so that's why those who need colour accuracy need monitors that can display them properly. If your wife is doing Photoshop mostly for fun or use it intensely but with minimal colour adjustment, then I don't think it is worth the effort to get this.

[kleptodathief]

will a 24incher b 200$ anytime soon at dell? i hate using 40in lcd for puter

[ditto]

If you have no complain with your Acer, then don't bother with this deal. To get the most out of any monitor for colour works you need to calibrate it using Spyder or other calibration hardware. It is just about impossible to calibrate a monitor that use dithering to simulate colour, so that's why those who need colour accuracy need monitors that can display them properly. If your wife is doing Photoshop mostly for fun or use it intensely but with minimal colour adjustment, then I don't think it is worth the effort to get this.

much appreciated.

[bpopd]

My order says it's in production now and that the estimated ship date is 3/20/09, can I still cancel?

lol... "In production"... It'll be freshhh...!!! fresh off the production line...

Umm..i dunno why, but back in 2005... dell use to take 3weeks to ship their products... Now in 2009, they take 1 week...thats good improvement...

But the fact that they are taking orders beyond their inventory...and making people wait...means they are pretty desperate for business.

Mine says "In production 03/05/2009"
LOL.

[chinesedevil]

Mine says "In production 03/05/2009"
LOL.

Production Date: 3/5/2009
Estimated Delivery Date is:3/13/09

Mine says the same :-0, hopefully it'll be a good quality monitor since its my first Dell one

[b0ne]

I placed 3 orders.. 2 for monitors and 1 for the MX3200.

Received the MX3200 the next day and just got shipping notification on the monitors.. woo!

[najibs]

Woohoo...just got an email this morning saying my monitor has shipped. I'm hoping it'll be here on Monday :cheesygri

[buddhababy]

Monitor ordered on the 4th, email today:
Your order was shipped on 03/06/2009

:D

[Macross_Freek]

Got a shipping confirmation this morning as well. Expected March 10 delivery date.

[chinesedevil]

Monitor ordered on the 4th, email today:
Your order was shipped on 03/06/2009

:D

same :razz:

[KorruptioN]

Ditto, got the shipping confirmation.

[mcg]

Same! I'm excited to test this.

Anyone have a LCD calibrator in the GTA? I'll pay you to borrow it :)

[bluegreenshxt]

Sweeet, I got the email tooo. I ordered around midnight of the first day, so I consider myself lucky :razz:

mcg, just grab a spyder2express. It's not too expensive...I found mine very useful...

[Tornado F2]

I totally agree with you dude... technology items do appreciate fast... probably faster than an automobile (in terms of percentage) but I am upgrading from a 10 yr old 17" CRT, which makes sense for me. But since you already bought the 23" panel, if I were you, I wouldn't buy this either.

For me I always wanted a 24"... but Dell continuously kept producing models with inherent problems and flaws. Plus the horror stories in the forums kept me on the sidelines until now. The 2209WA has some known issues, but none of them are a cause for concern to me and the reviews all over the net seem to be rather positive.

Well, I really wasn't in any NEED for another monitor, but the 23in was on for such a good deal that I figured it was worth taking a gamble and ordering one to watch HD DVD movies using the XBOX 360's external drive. It's worked out so good that my only regret is in not ordering a couple more for the PC. But then I'd have to find buyers for my existing, almost-new gear, and that's more hassle than it would be worth.

[ChopSuey]

My monitor was shipped today according to the e-mail I received. That was pretty fast considering it wasn't suppose to ship till the 11th. Can't wait to get this baby. :)

[Tornado F2]

lol... "In production"... It'll be freshhh...!!! fresh off the production line...

Umm..i dunno why, but back in 2005... dell use to take 3weeks to ship their products... Now in 2009, they take 1 week...thats good improvement...

But the fact that they are taking orders beyond their inventory...and making people wait...means they are pretty desperate for business.

Mine says "In production 03/05/2009"
LOL.

My 23in took almost 2 weeks to arrive. It was "in production" for several days (though it had actually been manufactured a couple of months previous). Basically they are receiving so many orders that it takes them a while to process them, and then you have to wait for your monitor to ship from Texas. Considering the number of units sold it might have made more sense for Dell to ship the units directly from China to a Canadian distribution point, rather than Texas. But at least they don't charge shipping, and the monitor itself proved worth the wait.

BTW, I hardly think they are "desperate" for business, but I do suspect they have a lot of unsold inventory due to the business-sector crash. If they can keep their prices competitive and shipping free though they may even increase their market share as other manufacturers/retailers struggle to move their own overpriced stocks. When the markets recover Dell may emerge in an even more dominant position than before, especially if some of their competitors go bust.

[Tornado F2]

I'm a web a developer and it's not uncommon for me to spend 12-14 hours a day in front of my computer so colour depth, viewing angle and overall picture quality are a must. Based on the reviews that I've read this is quite the panel as well. I've already bought one and I'm thinking about getting another. What a delightful dilemma.

No question, this 22in was definitely an excellent deal for a PC monitor. Looks like you left it too late to order a 2nd one this go round though. (You posted at the cutoff time!)

[rayl]

My monitor was shipped today, Ordered@03/05/2009, Estimated ship date is 03/12/2009, but shipped on 03/07/2009.

[StE823]

Same! I'm excited to test this.

Anyone have a LCD calibrator in the GTA? I'll pay you to borrow it :)

just buy one, there's no point to borrow a calibrator since you have to calibrate it once a while (around every 2 weeks), a cheap spyder2express is around 80 from CC

[IMAD!man]

Okay I need some help. I just switched from my 19" Nokia pro, which I've had for over 7 years. I started with the best 24" monitor they sold in Best buy. I loved the vivid colors but could not get over the terrible viewing angles and difference in color from top to bottom and also the difference in brightness across the top 2" of the screen. I then tried the next 24" and then their best 22" and took them all back. Although to be fair the 22" Lg was not terrible but it was definitely not as good as my 7 year old crt. I decided to do a google "best 22" monitor 2009" and came up with the new Dell 2209WA. It seemed like this would be the answer to all my problems. I've had it for about a week and I like it. It's definitely the best lcd I have had thus far. It is not however as good as my old crt in many areas. I am a freak when it comes to black. This monitor doesn't do true black. There is also some noticeable light coming from the corners when at the desktop which I have set to black. Also the colors are not as vivid as I am used to and I am always fiddling with the gama trying to get it right. I ran the Nvidia wizard and made it worse. I also note that I am unable to calibrate the thing using the lagom website. And the other thing that I find quite annoying is that when I type my monitor jiggles. Has anyone seen the 2408WFP compared to this 2209WA? My wife would like an lcd and she loves this screen just the way it is, but she's not picky at all. I was considering trying to get back to a 24" with the Dell 2408WFP. Does anyone know a monitor that I might love? I don't really put a limit on cost, because they last so long and you spend sooo many hours looking at them. Okay if I'm going to be honest I don't want to spend more than $600 on a screen. I play games and do a lot of reading. I probably do a bit more reading than gaming but when I do game it has to look right.

[repulse]

My two 22" was shipped on Mar 6. Pretty good since the delivery date was estimated to be Mar 12. :lol:

My Kplish speakers arrived the day after I ordered too! I'm starting to like Dell.

[felix]

And the other thing that I find quite annoying is that when I type my monitor jiggles.
Can anyone else confirm this problem with the Dell 2209WA?

I missed this deal but next time it comes around I'd like to be ready. :-0

[reset]

just buy one, there's no point to borrow a calibrator since you have to calibrate it once a while (around every 2 weeks), a cheap spyder2express is around 80 from CC

spyder2 express has some decent reviews

CC has none instock (1 in brampton)


any suggestions for a calibrator for both lcd and plasma?

thanks

[buddhababy]

Okay I need some help.

Does anyone know a monitor that I might love? I don't really put a limit on cost, because they last so long and you spend sooo many hours looking at them. Okay if I'm going to be honest I don't want to spend more than $600 on a screen. I play games and do a lot of reading. I probably do a bit more reading than gaming but when I do game it has to look right.

Try the "request a deal" thread

[Keiki]

You don't need calibrators unless you absolutely need correct colours (web page designer, etc.) For the average user I suggest you find .icm files which are colour profiles for your monitor, and load them into your computer.

I did it for my 2709 and it does look better.

Becareful though, make sure it's the correct one for your monitor or else you can screw up the colours.

[syuzh]

Don't know where to put this. But a coupon for dell.ca

10% Off Select Electronics and Accessories.
Coupon expires 27-MAR-09
Coupon Code:
D7SP2PGJCSNPM8

[GiOBoY]

I got the ship notice too... mine was shipped on 03/06/2009.. ETA 03/11/2009. :lol:

[LD500]

...then you have to wait for your monitor to ship from Texas...

I just went onto Dell's site to track my order and noticed it was in transit in USA. I didn't know they shipped all the way from Texas. Shipped on March 6 but not scheduled to deliver until Mar 17. Hope that's wrong.

Any chance some of us will get hit with taxes or other cross-border charges?

[buddhababy]

I just went onto Dell's site to track my order and noticed it was in transit in USA. I didn't know they shipped all the way from Texas. Shipped on March 6 but not scheduled to deliver until Mar 17. Hope that's wrong.

Any chance some of us will get hit with taxes or other cross-border charges?

OMG. Say it ain't so.

[jmgk]

I just went onto Dell's site to track my order and noticed it was in transit in USA. I didn't know they shipped all the way from Texas. Shipped on March 6 but not scheduled to deliver until Mar 17. Hope that's wrong.

Any chance some of us will get hit with taxes or other cross-border charges?

Hmm... I can't seem to get any tracking details but, ir ordered my mine on the 5th around 11pm. It was shipped on the 6th and due here on the 10th... It is shipping to Hamilton for me so I assume it has to be coming from somewhere close.

[Szeto]

yeah i noticed that too a while back....

At work right now so I don't have my customer/order number with me but I thought as long as your order has not been delivered it would still show up as pending order??? Or at least somehow in your order history but now I can't even locate that order....

can anyone else confirm their orders are okay?

[Kellaen]

Line haul will be typical 1-2 days, then another day before purloator even gets it in the system. By that time it's usually delivered, so I'd not put much trust in tracking eta's on items that ship from the US. The last time I ordered a monitor, it didn't even pass the line haul status before it was delivered.

And the person asking about cross boarder taxes or fees, no, you won't get nailed with any.

[Diskdoctor]

I just got a call from Purolator saying my monitor should be delivered March 11. Ship date was March 7.

[Ziggy007]

Mine shipped March 6th, Purolator tracking has no info on my package and they have no idea where it is because it hasn't crossed the border yet.

Dell has an ETA of March 10th. Let's hope I get it today.

[Szeto]

I just got a call from Purolator saying my monitor should be delivered March 11. Ship date was March 7.


+1 but the automated message went by too fast... couldn't even jot down the tracking number.... at least i know it's ETA TBD on 11th ...

[LD500]

+1 but the automated message went by too fast... couldn't even jot down the tracking number.... at least i know it's ETA TBD on 11th ...

I just got an automated call from Purolator too. Delivery on March 11.
Much better than the expected delivery date originally given.
That original date never seems to be accurate.

I always thought Dell.ca had everything shipping from Canada.

[Kellaen]

Only the small electronics stuff usually. All my monitors and two systems have come via Texas.

*doh

[chinesedevil]

Status Shipment In Transit
Date/Time MARCH 9, 2009 AT 16:37
Depot TORONTO SORT CTR/CTR TRIE, ON

thats what mine says, and it was shipped on the 6th, i guess purolator picked it up today since 6th is friday. It doesnt say texas so im assuming its already in toronto?

[LD500]

Only the small electronics stuff usually. All my monitors and two systems have come via Texas.

*doh


Has anyone ever been charged any additional charges when Dell shipped from Texas? Is there some arrangement that Dell does to show that GST & PST have already been charged.

[Diskdoctor]

Much better than the expected delivery date originally given.
That original date never seems to be accurate.

I'm sure they estimate conservatively so that you're happy when it arrives earlier than you initially anticipated.

[TechRock]

i just check my order, it said it will be deliver tmr...lets hope i get it!!!

[Macross_Freek]

Status Shipment In Transit
Date/Time MARCH 9, 2009 AT 16:37
Depot TORONTO SORT CTR/CTR TRIE, ON

thats what mine says, and it was shipped on the 6th, i guess purolator picked it up today since 6th is friday. It doesnt say texas so im assuming its already in toronto?

Mine says the same except 8 minutes later. Estimated delivery date tomorrow. Hoping it arrives at the door tomorrow.

[fatkinglet]

mine says it is on delivery

[Macross_Freek]

Just got mine! Darn one white pixel in the bottom right corner.

[chronos]

Purolator just delivered it to my office!

[viper163]

Just got mine! Darn one white pixel in the bottom right corner.

can you give us some impressions when you get a chance? i should be getting it today but i'm stuck at work. just curious to see what you think of it now that you got it.

[Ziggy007]

Just got mine! Darn one white pixel in the bottom right corner.

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Stuck-Pixel-on-an-LCD-Monitor

If that fails, personally I would exchange.

I have owned a few different LCD devices over the years now and have been lucky enough to have zero dead or stuck pixels on mine.

[jmgk]

Just got mine in... and now surfing RFD with 22"... ohhh baby...

Anyways. My monitor doesn't jiggle when I type and its actually very easy to adjust positions for height and angle. I have not yet used for anything too intensive but I don't see any dead pixels, USB ports are nice and quick to respond. Generally its a pleasure to look at, just that I'm going to need to adjust going from 14.1 to 22... Overall good buy. No additional taxes or shipping fees.

[AndrewRFD]

Has anyone ever been charged any additional charges when Dell shipped from Texas? Is there some arrangement that Dell does to show that GST & PST have already been charged.

You won't get any additional charges.

[chocho111]

Just got mine! Darn one white pixel in the bottom right corner.

Can someone tell me of a good way to find out if I have any dead pixels?
I am expecting my monitor later today as well.
Says it is on the truck for delivery.

Thanks.

[buddhababy]

Mine just arrived!! Gotta unbox now! Crossed fingers for no dead pixels. (Gonna make the unboxing a bit awkward, but oh well..)

[Ryvius]

Mine just arrived, can someone post some calibration settings and icm?

[Macross_Freek]

Going to try a few methods to fix the stuck pixel tonight. Does anyone know if Dell sends refurbs out for replacements? Besides the white pixel the monitor looks pretty good and would hate to get a replacement only for it to be worse than my current one.

[najibs]

Can someone tell me of a good way to find out if I have any dead pixels?


Why are people so anal, and go out of their way to look for, and find dead pixels? It's almost as if people WANT and hope to find one. If you can't see them in the first place, then just leave it at that and enjoy the damn thing.

There's wayyy too many people out there that are too fixated on measurbating.

[Kellaen]

Going to try a few methods to fix the stuck pixel tonight. Does anyone know if Dell sends refurbs out for replacements? Besides the white pixel the monitor looks pretty good and would hate to get a replacement only for it to be worse than my current one.

Usually a refurb.

Why are people so anal, and go out of their way to look for, and find dead pixels? It's almost as if people WANT and hope to find one. If you can't see them in the first place, then just leave it at that and enjoy the damn thing.

There's wayyy too many people out there that are too fixated on measurbating.
People go out of their way because it is a defective product.

Would you accept a brand new car that had a chip in the paint or windshield? Obviously not. It's when you start accepting these things that it sets the stage for less quality. What becomes your limit then, 2, 5, 10 pixels?

[St00pid]

Quick question... for all those that received the monitor, when did it ship for you?

It shipped on March the 6th for me, but I received a call from Dell (couldn't pick it up as I was in class) and I'm unsure what's happening as the tracking still shows it in the US.

Is anyone willing to copy and paste some tracking information so I can compare? Thanks in advance!

[mcg]

Hmm just got mine. Set it up, and running a dual display to compare S-IPS vs. e-IPS.

So far, I can say where there is a purple tinge on the 2007WFP when viewing at an angle, it is replaced by a white tinge instead.

Blacks aren't as deep also... but very good nevertheless!

[TechRock]

just received my monitor, i will set it up after i finish reading this chapter for school

[Macross_Freek]

Usually a refurb.

Alright I guess that's ok anyway. This monitor seems used though which is odd. The back slot panel where the stand goes in had some markings and there's a small chip in the bezel on the top.

Best would still be if I can fix it though. Less hassle for me and Dell.

[bpopd]

Alright I guess that's ok anyway. This monitor seems used though which is odd. The back slot panel where the stand goes in had some markings and there's a small chip in the bezel on the top.

Best would still be if I can fix it though. Less hassle for me and Dell.

WHAT?
A SMALL CHIP ON THE BEZEL...MARKINGS?

Umm..no thats bad. Thats very bad qc.

Call DELL RIGHT NOW..

[ChopSuey]

Alright I guess that's ok anyway. This monitor seems used though which is odd. The back slot panel where the stand goes in had some markings and there's a small chip in the bezel on the top.

Best would still be if I can fix it though. Less hassle for me and Dell.

If it was me, I would be calling DELL for a replacement ASAP.

[Kellaen]

Yeah don't accept a brand new product like that. Call and escalate it to the Us / Can (not sure which) based support. The India based support usually is really horrible and will send you in endless circles.

[TechRock]

no dead pixel i think, i put the display in all black and dont see any different colour...very happy with the monitor now i need some hd video to see how good it is

[bpopd]

no dead pixel i think, i put the display in all black and dont see any different colour...very happy with the monitor now i need some hd video to see how good it is

run the display through

white, black, red, green, blue.

[mcg]

Hmm yeah to the person who received the crapped up monitor, that is just unacceptable, you paid good money for the monitor and shouldn't expect anything less!

Anyways, I have to say again this monitor is great... from the E228WFP to the 2408WFP, both were unsatisfactory but this is the needle in the haystack I've been trying to find. Good job Dell!

[Imusion]

Hmmm I ordered two and got only one :( The other one is lost in lala land. Purolator suspects it's stuck at the border ughh

From the one I got. It's really similar to my 2005FPW in terms of display quality. Nice angles, sparkle effect is still present on solid colours. The colours seemed a bit washed out though, will need to calibrate it with new settings hopefully off HardForums.

No apparent dead or stuck pixels.

Also I noticed the panel is kind of wobbly due to the stand. When I tap my desk with my knee, there's noticeable wobble compared to my 2005fpw which had a rock solid stand. The 2005fpw had a much bigger connection point with the panel and the stand which probably made it really solid whereas this panel has only a thin section which holds the panel in place.

[chocho111]

Waoooooooooo!!!!!
Have been playing with my monitor for the past 2 hours (it arrived shortly after Noon) and is this amazing or what!!!
No dead pixels!
And it is stunning when I played several HD clips on it.....well worth the money and it was time to change from my old 17" tube monitor.

[jmgk]

The fresh monitor smell is making me woozy... lol.

[Macross_Freek]

On your boxes does the shipping sticker state it's from "Dell Canada Returns C/O Genco"? Just thought that was odd.

[bpopd]

On your boxes does the shipping sticker state it's from "Dell Canada Returns C/O Genco"? Just thought that was odd.

Mine says "Dell Canada Returns C/O Genco".

No biggy.

[Macross_Freek]

Alright guess that's normal then. Just discovered a dead pixel too ughh. Dell support takes forever as well. Got transferred 3 times so far.

Is there an easier way to get an exchange than to go through all these hoops? I just keep getting transferred around.

[Kellaen]

There is a specific number to call that is the Canadian (north american?) support that is on EST time. The general 1800 dell number is the support center offshore that is a nightmare to deal with.

I don't have that number handy, maybe someone here does.

[Macross_Freek]

Yeah I just found it. Wow that offshore number is a nightmare to deal with indeed.

Update: Hmmm this doesn't seem to be much better. Still getting transferred around. They seem to keep transferring to a Canadian person although I thought I called the Canadian number.

[Imusion]

Hmmm I ordered two and got only one :( The other one is lost in lala land. Purolator suspects it's stuck at the border ughh

From the one I got. It's really similar to my 2005FPW in terms of display quality. Nice angles, sparkle effect is still present on solid colours. The colours seemed a bit washed out though, will need to calibrate it with new settings hopefully off HardForums.

No apparent dead or stuck pixels.

Also I noticed the panel is kind of wobbly due to the stand. When I tap my desk with my knee, there's noticeable wobble compared to my 2005fpw which had a rock solid stand. The 2005fpw had a much bigger connection point with the panel and the stand which probably made it really solid whereas this panel has only a thin section which holds the panel in place.

Update to this... after a few hours. I've started playing with the settings and WOW solid colours. Also adjusted the sharpness and the text is so clear compared to my 2005FPW and the colours are popping, no longer washed out.

One blaring issue though I think I'm experiencing the "orange tint" problem some people brought up on HardForum and it's driving me nuts. The right side of the screen looks like it has a light orange tint to it compared to the far left. The white on the far left is clear white whereas the right looks like a tinted white. I doubt I will return though as it's too much trouble.

[Macross_Freek]

Update to this... after a few hours. I've started playing with the settings and WOW solid colours. Also adjusted the sharpness and the text is so clear compared to my 2005FPW and the colours are popping, no longer washed out.

One blaring issue though I think I'm experiencing the "orange tint" problem some people brought up on HardForum and it's driving me nuts. The right side of the screen looks like it has a light orange tint to it compared to the far left. The white on the far left is clear white whereas the right looks like a tinted white. I doubt I will return though as it's too much trouble.

Finally got through to Canadian tech support and got an exchange done. Took only 2 hours.

Are you calibrating with a hardware calibrator or just playing around with the settings in software? Could you also post an icc/icm profile of your calibrated settings?

[bluegreenshxt]

What brightness/contrast levels are you guys using? If you let me know, I can post some profiles by the weekend (supposed to be kinda busy till then :p)
I find 0/35 is comfortable for me in my room...maybe even less at night...

Personally, I find that the default sharpness 50 is just right, less is blurry, more has pink fringing.

This monitor is awesome...there is some white "tint" at certain angles (diagonal off-axis). I got 0 dead pixels too :)

[Imusion]

Finally got through to Canadian tech support and got an exchange done. Took only 2 hours.

Are you calibrating with a hardware calibrator or just playing around with the settings in software? Could you also post an icc/icm profile of your calibrated settings?

Just calibrating by eye and with http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/all_tests.php

My setting on my monitor is:
Brightness 35
Contrast 74
Sharpness 90
Input Color Format: RGB
Preset Modes: Standard

Then I have these additional settings in my mobile video card software from Intel for "Color Correction":
Gamma 1.0
Brightness 0
Contrast 50

[McLaren]

Mine came with a dead pixel in the middle right of the screen, very annoying on a white background, it's going back.

[chinesedevil]

i found one pixel that wouldnt respond to blue other than that couldnt find any issues. 1 pixel on blue doesnt bother me, meh
is this what u call a stuck pixel if it doesnt respond to certain colour?

[bpopd]

Update to this... after a few hours. I've started playing with the settings and WOW solid colours. Also adjusted the sharpness and the text is so clear compared to my 2005FPW and the colours are popping, no longer washed out.

One blaring issue though I think I'm experiencing the "orange tint" problem some people brought up on HardForum and it's driving me nuts. The right side of the screen looks like it has a light orange tint to it compared to the far left. The white on the far left is clear white whereas the right looks like a tinted white. I doubt I will return though as it's too much trouble.

Its not a big problem. Compared to my 2007WFP, it's already way better.

[mcg]

Really? I find the 2007WFP still better, but oh well, the size makes up for it!

[c001m4n]

Yeah I just found it. Wow that offshore number is a nightmare to deal with indeed.

Update: Hmmm this doesn't seem to be much better. Still getting transferred around. They seem to keep transferring to a Canadian person although I thought I called the Canadian number.

Mind posting that number to share with everyone? ;) Thanks.

[akademiks]

Great monitor.. About 1/8 of it has colour uniformity issues though.
Looking for some decent settings I can use as well as some way I can test for dead pixels.

[reset]

Just calibrating by eye and with http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/all_tests.php



great link, thanks


First time buying my own LCD - another RFD impulse buy.:twisted:

Just picked it up from Purolator.

Looks great, solid, no unacceptable wobbling, no dead pixels, swivels up/down, back/forth, height is fine (could be an inch or two taller, on the lowest height its litteraly 1 1/4 inch from touching the desk - it can be a low rider for sure).

When turning or rotating it around it just feels silky smooth. :cheesygri

3yr warranty?

$250 is great imo

Thanks OP and all the others for contributing :razz:

[Macross_Freek]

Mind posting that number to share with everyone? ;) Thanks.

Should be 1-800-847-4096. That's the number I called the final time and wasn't being transferred anywhere. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


And I think I know what one of the users meant when the monitor jiggles. I'm experiencing the same thing as Imusion with regard to the stand. It seems like it isn't as sturdy as it should be. It still holds fine but there is some movement of the monitor when the base moves as well.

[zero_]

in case anyone missed this lcd deal, i am selling one, still in box:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=712017

[cassador]

Original ship date was the 12th, but got it today!

My girlfriend needed a monitor and I thought if this is as good as everyone is saying I better get one for myself.

Glad I did! At the price we paid, I didn't find anything comparable at retail level.

Solid Dell construction, very adjustable stable stand, amazing viewing angle compared to TN panels.
Not being a fan of glossy plastic everyone seems to be using, the matte plastic on this monitor is a beautiful thing.
Glossy plastic looks great until you start using it. Wipe the dust off and you have scratches, not very practical. But I guess I'm old school.

Very accessible controls and straightforward OSD.
Look at a Samsung T220 for a good example of poor control buttons.

No dead pixels and barely noticeable bleed along top right.
Colours looked decent out of the box. I'm sure with some tweaking we'll go from decent to great.
I saw comments that this type of panel has a "sparkly" effect but I only seemed to notice it when I stared and looked for it.

Thanks RFD for another great deal!

[akademiks]

Ugh... i have a SINGLE dead or stuck pixel and it bothers the hell out of me.
Quite a bit of backlight bleeding and colour uniformity issues like I said before.
Still a good monitor.. Hopefully I can massage that pixel out and fit it, then I'll be happy.

[bpopd]

Wow I was reading the Hardforum reviews... and these people are unreal. They basically want the best panel with like the most expensive features for the price of a TN... to watch movies.


staying away from there.
Aside from that, my monitors came in, and both have no dead pixels, and they are both great. Except the stand... I need to replace the stand...it's totally not tall enough for me.

Anyone have a decent calibrated setting?

Mine is at brightness 10, contrast 50, graphics mode, dynamic contrast off.
No dead pixels.

[KorruptioN]

Wow I was reading the Hardforum reviews... and these people are unreal. They basically want the best panel with like the most expensive features for the price of a TN... to watch movies.

staying away from there.

HardForums is known for that kind of thing. They'll look for problems and then everybody there blows things way out of proportion. It's one of the reasons why I don't go there anymore. I'll go there for the typical hardcore hardware review (and followup discussion on the forums), but it's way too much for me.

My 2209WA has also arrived, but I'll be waiting until I piece together my new computer before using it.

[Kellaen]

Hardforums is good for finding out the hidden problems some items have, but there is a large noise ratio there.

Mine's floating around in cow town right now apparently, hopefully it's in VanC tomorrow.

[bpopd]

HardForums is known for that kind of thing. They'll look for problems and then everybody there blows things way out of proportion. It's one of the reasons why I don't go there anymore. I'll go there for the typical hardcore hardware review (and followup discussion on the forums), but it's way too much for me.

My 2209WA has also arrived, but I'll be waiting until I piece together my new computer before using it.

Enjoy it buddy. I'm running my set now and after calibrating they are just as good as my 2005/2007fpw and 90UXi.

[BongoBong]

Enjoy it buddy. I'm running my set now and after calibrating they are just as good as my 2005/2007fpw and 90UXi.

What settings did you end up with?

[mcg]

On sites such as RFD, where there are lots of white pages, I find the pink tinge on the left and orange tinge on the right really starts to bug me. I might just end up returning this... lol

Hopefully with more use I will get used to it. That would be the best case!

[GiOBoY]

Ooohh Sooooo Sweet! Mine just arrived today and all setup. No dead pixels (at least from the OSD Menu test) but as everyone has mentioned, a little bit of a color uniformity issue along the bottom corners of the screen where on the lower left is a slight pink tinge and lower right slight orange tinge. As I used it more, I honestly couldn't notice it any longer... maybe due to a burn in period or it's just me getting used to it already! haha

For the price, I can't complain and will be keeping this! 2 thumbs up RFD's ass! :lol:

[lokyee]

got mine successfully unboxed! looks great with no dead pixels (at least I don't notice any) LOL!

great monitor!

[bpopd]

Ooohh Sooooo Sweet! Mine just arrived today and all setup. No dead pixels (at least from the OSD Menu test) but as everyone has mentioned, a little bit of a color uniformity issue along the bottom corners of the screen where on the lower left is a slight pink tinge and lower right slight orange tinge. As I used it more, I honestly couldn't notice it any longer... maybe due to a burn in period or it's just me getting used to it already! haha

For the price, I can't complain and will be keeping this! 2 thumbs up RFD's ass! :lol:

totally UP there with you LMAO!!!

[disordered]

On sites such as RFD, where there are lots of white pages, I find the pink tinge on the left and orange tinge on the right really starts to bug me. I might just end up returning this... lol

Hopefully with more use I will get used to it. That would be the best case!

Got my monitor today and I'm using it now. I don't see any sign of tinting.

Loving the monitor! The color shifting my old TN panel would do has bugged me ever since I got the thing.

[fatkinglet]

I am satisfied of the two I received - no dead pixel whatsoever and my current setting is:


B10
C55
R99(92)
G96
B99(97)

[ChopSuey]

My monitor might be going back as I think I have some backlight leakage issues. Everything else with this monitor works perfectly and I have no dead pixels.

[Szeto]

Puro has delivered mine, so you can expect yours probably today too, people in GVA.

[bpopd]

My monitor might be going back as I think I have some backlight leakage issues. Everything else with this monitor works perfectly and I have no dead pixels.

Backlight bleeding? I think all LG IPS panels have that problem.
Some of you guys with dead pixels should return them, but those who have backlight bleeding, should seriously think again how it affects you. Cause the fact is, even on NEC's 2490 ($1000) LG IPS paneled monitor, theres backlight bleeding on the bottom corners just like this Dell.....

You wont believe how many people want this 2209wa iPS monitor...yet a bunch of you guys are returning them.

[Sansul]

Set mine up today, took about 5 minutes. Using an HDMI-DVI adaptor from monoprice, works flawlessly. The colour is very strong, at first I felt that the lack of glossy made it dull, but as I use it more, I am very impressed.

The height adjustment is amazing, and changes like butter, and the tilt and swivel are all equally impressive. Feels like a very high end stand.

My monitor has no backlight bleeding or colour inconsistencies at all, its downright perfect.

Thanks Redflag for amazing deal.

[mcg]

Backlight bleeding? I think all LG IPS panels have that problem.
Some of you guys with dead pixels should return them, but those who have backlight bleeding, should seriously think again how it affects you. Cause the fact is, even on NEC's 2490 ($1000) LG IPS paneled monitor, theres backlight bleeding on the bottom corners just like this Dell.....

You wont believe how many people want this 2209wa iPS monitor...yet a bunch of you guys are returning them.

Lol really? I put mine up on the BST and no bites :P

But I guess it's a good thing, I am starting to get used to the monitor.

[ChopSuey]

Backlight bleeding? I think all LG IPS panels have that problem.
Some of you guys with dead pixels should return them, but those who have backlight bleeding, should seriously think again how it affects you. Cause the fact is, even on NEC's 2490 ($1000) LG IPS paneled monitor, theres backlight bleeding on the bottom corners just like this Dell.....

You wont believe how many people want this 2209wa iPS monitor...yet a bunch of you guys are returning them.

Well it's not "bad". Only really noticeable when the entire screen goes black. Based on what you said, maybe I am jumping the gun. I'll give it a couple weeks and see how it goes. Thanks for the post.

Can anyone else confirm if they have any backlight bleeding on their monitor?

[mcg]

No apparent bleeding on mine. Using "Dead Pixel Buddy" to check.

I just put my 2209WA on a 2007WFP stand, and it looks soooo sexy, LOL.

[Asad_A203]

Just recieved mine today, not properly calibrated (am waiting for my new PC to come) but it does appear to look much richer in color than my Samsung TN Panel. I kind of regret not picking up two... I will have to jump on them next time they have a deal.

[Kellaen]

No apparent bleeding on mine. Using "Dead Pixel Buddy" to check.

I just put my 2209WA on a 2007WFP stand, and it looks soooo sexy, LOL.

I just got mine at work and was wondering if the old stands from the 2007/2407 etc would work, nice to know they do so things will match ;)

[betasharp]

Yeah, received the 2209wa as well, very nice monitor, no issues. I'm regretting not getting two like a few others mentioned, would be great for the other comp :( ...such a nice monitor. Oh well, like others have said, next time!

[DVDManiac]

got mine today...don't notice the bleeding or tinting or whatever everyone else is talking about...the secret is, i don't look for it!

big arse monitor...actually feel a little strained from staring at it, maybe even a little heavy headedness...haven't tested the colours, not much difference from my samsung T30 that i can notice. sharp font, very easy to read...more strain on hand/wrist as i have to move the mouse further.

[St00pid]

Just got the monitor and it's awesome... but just one gripe: Is it just me or does the monitor run hot? I had some low-end 19" LG monitor before I upgraded to this and I can feel the heat from the screen and the top of the 2209WA.

[GiOBoY]

Just got the monitor and it's awesome... but just one gripe: Is it just me or does the monitor run hot? I had some low-end 19" LG monitor before I upgraded to this and I can feel the heat from the screen and the top of the 2209WA.

Yea I believe it does run a bit hot... but still not as hot as the old CRTs (what I used to have)

EDIT: Here's a good calibration setting to start with...

2009WA CALIBRATION SETTINGS (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1004&message=30952937)

B 10
C 88
R 99
G 96
B 99

[Diskdoctor]

Well it's not "bad". Only really noticeable when the entire screen goes black. Based on what you said, maybe I am jumping the gun. I'll give it a couple weeks and see how it goes. Thanks for the post.

Can anyone else confirm if they have any backlight bleeding on their monitor?

I would say there's backlight bleeding on mine. There needs to be a good chunk of the screen black for me to see it but then it's quite obvious. Also, I wouldn't say it's restricted to the corners.

I haven't really looked for this before so I'm not sure how it compares to other LCD monitors.

[ChopSuey]

Well, my backlight issue has improved drastically. The problem was that the monitor was not properly calibrated. I calibrated the monitor using settings I found on another site and it looks great now. Here are the settings I am using:

B: 0
C: 74
Sharp: 40

R: 99
G: 98
B: 99

[GiOBoY]

Well, my backlight issue has improved drastically. The problem was that the monitor was not properly calibrated. I calibrated the monitor using settings I found on another site and it looks great now. Here are the settings I am using:

B: 0
C: 74
Sharp: 40

R: 99
G: 98
B: 99

Hmm.. I'll have to try your settings out tonight... it looks like the guy in DPReview is doing something funny as I read other peoples comments after his post.

Did you select Video / Graphics mode?

[Kellaen]

Had this running last night, excellent monitor for the price. Certainly kicks the crap out of my 2009w that was just bought less then two months ago.

No dead pixels, some slight backlight bleed at the top left middle of the screen, but apart from that (even my 2407 has that problem) this thing is stellar. I hate the included stand, so I put it on the Y stand from the 2009 and it looks smoking.

Running the following settings as well, seems to be the sweet spot:
Brightness 0
Contrast 74
R:98
G:95
B:94
Sharpness 40

Again, very impressed by e-ips at this price range.

[Diskdoctor]

Well, my backlight issue has improved drastically. The problem was that the monitor was not properly calibrated. I calibrated the monitor using settings I found on another site and it looks great now. Here are the settings I am using:

B: 0
C: 74
Sharp: 40

R: 99
G: 98
B: 99

I haven't done any calibrating yet. I'll have to give this a try tonight.

[ChopSuey]

Hmm.. I'll have to try your settings out tonight... it looks like the guy in DPReview is doing something funny as I read other peoples comments after his post.

Did you select Video / Graphics mode?

I leave mine on Graphics mode.

No dead pixels, some slight backlight bleed at the top left middle of the screen, but apart from that (even my 2407 has that problem) this thing is stellar. I hate the included stand, so I put it on the Y stand from the 2009 and it looks smoking.

That's exactly where my backlight bleeding was coming from. When I used my new settings, the bleeding faded dramatically. It's still there, but it's very faint. The colors on this monitor is amazing.

[St00pid]

This was from HardForum:

Originally Posted by crazycap
just to throw in to the mix, here's my setting and profile calibrated with xrite i1d2
Target Brightness was 120cd/m², color temp 6500K, 2.2 gamma

Settings:
Brightness - 16
Contrast -74
Custom (RGB) R98 G95 B94
Sharpness - 40 (or whatever works for you with lagom's sharpness test as reference)

icc file link here (http://a5.s3.p.quickshareit.com/files/monitor_14209_19e071.icc)

EDITED:
my service menu setting
Offset R142 G131 B129
Gain R105 G108 B106

Bank Scaler
Addr 00 Value 88

What I'm using now.

[wing0]

I was so happy that there was no dead/stuck pixel....then I went on RFD and noticed the orange tint....:mad:

[ChopSuey]

I was so happy that there was no dead/stuck pixel....then I went on RFD and noticed the orange tint....:mad:

Strange... there is no orange tint on mine. Where are you seeing the orange tint?

[wing0]

Strange... there is no orange tint on mine. Where are you seeing the orange tint?

Right hand side is orange tint
left hand side is more....green/grey?
Quite noticeable in google/RFD, windows explorer, white background
When I use dead pixel buddy, left hand side is usually darker across all colour spectrum, that's probably what's causing it.

[chinesedevil]

Right hand side is orange tint
left hand side is more....green/grey?
Quite noticeable in google/RFD, windows explorer, white background
When I use dead pixel buddy, left hand side is usually darker across all colour spectrum, that's probably what's causing it.

i think i have the same problem with mine, the right hand side of the screen looks like its tinted orange a bit and left is kinda more "whiter"

[mcg]

I've gotten used to it .... lol, acquired taste

[akademiks]

Mine has no orange tint...

[MACMAC]

Right hand side is orange tint
left hand side is more....green/grey?
Quite noticeable in google/RFD, windows explorer, white background
When I use dead pixel buddy, left hand side is usually darker across all colour spectrum, that's probably what's causing it.

Yep, I'm seeing the orange on the right side as well.

Left side is perfect though.

Hmm...what to do next...

[fatkinglet]

I do notice the small problems you guys have mentioned, but I am going to keep mine. Technology is not perfect and you won't be finding any better monitor than this at the same price.

[wing0]

I do notice the small problems you guys have mentioned, but I am going to keep mine. Technology is not perfect and you won't be finding any better monitor than this at the same price.

If this is quite common, then I guess it might be a trait of e-IPS or it's just merely the initial production runs of LG panels and they just want to get them out the door. I can't figure it's which...
Light uniformity problem is usually more common across all types of panel, but I haven't heard of IPS having a slight colour shift.

I think I'm going to return it and wait for more e-IPS and different sizes to come out. Hopefully they will improve the quality control on it by then.

[Macross_Freek]

Seems adjusting the contrast will add/remove the tint. I tested this using an all white background and you can kind of see the shifts at different contrast levels. Mine seems to disappear above low 70's but I'm sitting at 74 anyway so it's not noticeable at all.

Give it a try and see what you guys get.

On a side note got my replacement monitor and no dead/bright pixels.

[wing0]

Seems adjusting the contrast will add/remove the tint. I tested this using an all white background and you can kind of see the shifts at different contrast levels. Mine seems to disappear above low 70's but I'm sitting at 74 anyway so it's not noticeable at all.

Give it a try and see what you guys get.

On a side note got my replacement monitor and no dead/bright pixels.

i tried around 70-80 contrast but the tint was still there. If i bring it any higher, then yes it does get less noticeable but at the expense of colour accuracy.

[mcg]

LOL well, I just sold mine today... I got used to the tint after a while, didn't bother me at all. But I guess in the end I wanted to wait for a future revision.

Back to the 2007WFP... seriously, nothing can beat this monitor... it has set such a high standard for me :(

[rojhero]

Could someone measure the dimensions of the monitor? According to the website it's supposed to be:

20.15 inches ( 511.77 mm) x 7.25 inches ( 184.12 mm) x 14.24 inches (361.91 mm)

The one I have is approximately 18.5" x 11.5" viewing area and 20" x 13" with the bezel. When turned vertically, it is quite a bit more narrow than my old Samsung 191T, defeating the purpose of why I bought it .

Thanks!

Edit: Looks like it is 16:10 ratio and that dells dimensions are wrong. For someone who does mostly internet surfing and looking at word documents in portrait, 16:10 is a pain. It's nice for the occasional movie, but that what TVs are for. I really wish they would have something closer to 4:3. I'm still keeping it though. The colors on this are fantastic!

[bpopd]

On both my 2209WA's the colors are excellent. There's no issues that I detect with tint on my pair of screens, but I never set my monitor to white, nor do i stare at the corners...

[MACMAC]

My replacement unit is on its way.

It's a brand new model too, since the Tech said they are prevented from shipping refurbs directly to customers from the U.S.

Hope this one is flawless :cheesygri

[nice4]

Any one has any luck with 2209WA @ 75HZ with ATI CCC ? NVidia is able but I just unable to have it run @ 75Hz.