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Ryce
Feb 11th, 2009, 10:12 PM
i know of GNC and nutrition house is there any other unknown stores or stores u would recommend to go and buy the protein shakes? either in Markham or Scarborough? thanks!

dux
Feb 12th, 2009, 09:09 AM
I usually get it from bodybuilding.com, but since the CAN$ went down the drain, I've been looking for a good place to buy protein too.

astrolad
Feb 12th, 2009, 05:05 PM
I would look online as I find you can get better product for less.

I normally order from TrueProtein.com (http://trueprotein.com) based in the US because I normally orer custom mixes.

I recently ordered from wheydepot.com which is in PQ and has free shipping over $100.

krazo
Feb 12th, 2009, 05:43 PM
I just ordered from fitnessone.com, they had very competitive pricing even with the C$ conversion.

If you are into Animal products, they have really good prices on that.

sexpuppet6000
Feb 12th, 2009, 05:58 PM
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LargeOne
Feb 13th, 2009, 02:35 PM
I would look online as I find you can get better product for less.

I normally order from TrueProtein.com (http://trueprotein.com) based in the US because I normally orer custom mixes.

I recently ordered from wheydepot.com which is in PQ and has free shipping over $100.


I second trueprotein...the best i have used so far!

ji2o0k
Feb 13th, 2009, 03:09 PM
I hear bull's milk is a great source of protein. Try and let us know.......

Matryx
Feb 13th, 2009, 09:58 PM
What kind of protein mix do you guys order? I went there for the first time and its pretty confusing with all the pre-mix and custom mixes. What kind do you guys usually order or do you custom mix?

I second trueprotein...the best i have used so far!

XxXSnake23XxX
Feb 13th, 2009, 10:24 PM
On whey is the best tasting imo

astrolad
Feb 14th, 2009, 12:16 AM
What kind of protein mix do you guys order? I went there for the first time and its pretty confusing with all the pre-mix and custom mixes. What kind do you guys usually order or do you custom mix?

For any time of day use, I custom mix:
Micellar Casein (Instantized) 30%
Milk Protein Isolate 30%
Whey Protein Isolate Cold-Filtration 40%

With either Premium French Vanilla Cream or Premium Dutch Chocolate Fudge.
I've also tried Premium Bananas 'n Cream, Premium Citrus Limeade, Premium Very Berry Strawberry, Premium Strawberries 'n Cream.

The premium flavours have sweeteners added so you don't need to add any.
You can order as a custom mix small as a pound of a flavour which is handy when you want to try flavours but don't know if you'll like it.
You can add the Aminogen (Protease Enzyme) if you know you have issues with dairy.

I got a lot of good info on flavours from their forums @ http://forums.trueprotein.com

For the postworkout window, I just get 100% Whey Protein Isolate Cold-Filtration with whatever flavour.

LargeOne
Feb 14th, 2009, 03:33 PM
What kind of protein mix do you guys order? I went there for the first time and its pretty confusing with all the pre-mix and custom mixes. What kind do you guys usually order or do you custom mix?

If you want to post a bit of info on yourself,or PM if you feel more comfortable I can put something together for you.Height,weight,approximate bodyfat percentage and over all goals.It can be very confusing at first due to the fact most consumers are never given an option on what they want in their protein.We always got the "proprietary blend" super secret load of crap thrown our way.That is why I always use trueprotein,I get to choose exactly what I want.If I want all isolate,that is exactly what I get.A mix of fast medium and slow digetsing proteins,then I order that in the percentages I want.
Anyhow as mentioned post or PM a bit of info and we can go from there.

df329
Feb 14th, 2009, 03:45 PM
If you want to post a bit of info on yourself,or PM if you feel more comfortable I can put something together for you.Height,weight,approximate bodyfat percentage and over all goals.It can be very confusing at first due to the fact most consumers are never given an option on what they want in their protein.We always got the "proprietary blend" super secret load of crap thrown our way.That is why I always use trueprotein,I get to choose exactly what I want.If I want all isolate,that is exactly what I get.A mix of fast medium and slow digetsing proteins,then I order that in the percentages I want.
Anyhow as mentioned post or PM a bit of info and we can go from there.

the best part is you actually believe it makes a difference :lol:

LargeOne
Feb 14th, 2009, 04:16 PM
The best part is you are the guy that eats all the junk food after you workout and have to watch a DVD in the gym so you dont get bored between sets.Yet you still feel qualified to post advice.Now THATS funny:lol: A nice example is the little gem below that shows the depth of your knowledge.

i recommend purple wraath and green magnitude :!:

df329
Feb 14th, 2009, 06:46 PM
The best part is you are the guy that eats all the junk food after you workout and have to watch a DVD in the gym so you dont get bored between sets.Yet you still feel qualified to post advice.Now THATS funny:lol: A nice example is the little gem below that shows the depth of your knowledge.

Both of those products would make far more difference than changing type of protein

LargeOne
Feb 14th, 2009, 07:02 PM
Both of those products would make far more difference than changing type of protein

I would be VERY interested in hearing an explanation.

Kujo
Feb 14th, 2009, 08:27 PM
I just ordered from fitnessone.com, they had very competitive pricing even with the C$ conversion.

If you are into Animal products, they have really good prices on that.

I like Fitnessone.com as well.

LargeOne,

I noticed Truprotein.com uses UPS to ship to Canada. I despise UPS. Do you get dinged with all those extra charges?

Matryx
Feb 14th, 2009, 08:33 PM
I'm have tried a few protein powders including ON, Dymatize, EAS, Champion Nutrition, and BSN. I like trying different protein powders and do so every time I'm done my 5lb tub. I been hearing a lot about trueprotein.com and might consider trying it myself. It seems like there are a lot of flavors and at a really great price if you buy a large amount.

I've been working out on and off since I was 18, but recently gotten serious about it.

Well here are my stats.
Age: 24
Height: 5'8
Weight 160lbs
Bodyfat: I'm not sure, but I'm pretty lean now after 3 months of getting back to the gym.
Goals: lower bodyfat to 10-15% if I'm not there yet and put on 5-10lbs more of lean muscle after my cutting phase. I'm trying to bring out the lower abs. That area seem that hardest to lose fat.

Right now I'm drinking Dymatize and BSN Syntha-6 for my morning and post-workout shake. I basically put half a scoop or each and mix them together. I'm happy with those two options right now, but like I said I like trying different protein flavors and brands. So if you can suggest what kind of mix I should get from trueprotein that would be great.

df329
Feb 14th, 2009, 09:28 PM
I would be VERY interested in hearing an explanation.

one is creatine, proven good and will likely lead to steroid use which willl definitely help

other has a really cool name


i hear people that drink isolate are like30% leaner than people who drink concentrate :!:

9dk
Feb 14th, 2009, 11:29 PM
one is creatine, proven good and will likely lead to steroid use which willl definitely help

other has a really cool name


i hear people that drink isolate are like30% leaner than people who drink concentrate :!:

You're a moron.

LargeOne
Feb 15th, 2009, 10:01 AM
I like Fitnessone.com as well.

LargeOne,

I noticed Truprotein.com uses UPS to ship to Canada. I despise UPS. Do you get dinged with all those extra charges?


No,trueprotein takes care of it all.You pay the tax and shipping,thats all.It is then delivered to your door via UPS.

LargeOne
Feb 15th, 2009, 10:11 AM
I'm have tried a few protein powders including ON, Dymatize, EAS, Champion Nutrition, and BSN. I like trying different protein powders and do so every time I'm done my 5lb tub. I been hearing a lot about trueprotein.com and might consider trying it myself. It seems like there are a lot of flavors and at a really great price if you buy a large amount.

I've been working out on and off since I was 18, but recently gotten serious about it.

Well here are my stats.
Age: 24
Height: 5'8
Weight 160lbs
Bodyfat: I'm not sure, but I'm pretty lean now after 3 months of getting back to the gym.
Goals: lower bodyfat to 10-15% if I'm not there yet and put on 5-10lbs more of lean muscle after my cutting phase. I'm trying to bring out the lower abs. That area seem that hardest to lose fat.

Right now I'm drinking Dymatize and BSN Syntha-6 for my morning and post-workout shake. I basically put half a scoop or each and mix them together. I'm happy with those two options right now, but like I said I like trying different protein flavors and brands. So if you can suggest what kind of mix I should get from trueprotein that would be great.



Around your workout I suggest one of the isolates.It digests a bit quicker.Trueprotein has a new isolate http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_Details.aspx?cid=22&pid=6884
Although I have not tried it I have spoken to those who have and they like it.

A good solid all around protein to use anytime is the team skip mix which will give you a mix of three proteins.
To save a few bucks MPI is always a consideration which can be used around your workout as well.
They are also now selling the recession line of proteins in bulk.Good solid protein at good prices.http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_Details.aspx?cid=22&pid=6843

Another option is to buy an isolate such as the Ultra and use it plain around your workout and then add olive oil at other times.This will slow down the digestion a bit.

Remember you need to work all these into your daily macro count.These are not "free" calories.

They also carry a line of pre mix solutions http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_Details.aspx?cid=31&pid=530
is also a good post workout mix.

bigredlemon
Feb 15th, 2009, 09:57 PM
I don't understand the hate i'm seeing towards df329. It seems clear to me at least that he's at least decently knoweldgable about supplements and is just sarcasticly joking around anyway.

Lots of very very strong, big guys who've been lifting for a long long time swear by purple wraath and green magnitude. And taking those will certainly give you a far bigger difference than changing the ratios of isolate whey for pre and post workout.

99% of the protein hype comes from the whey companies themselves. Watch the Ronnie dvds start to end: how many times do you actually see him down whey?

1. workout properly
2. eat a well-balanced meal with enough protein
3. sleep

that's it. no magic. No need to stress over your casin to isolate ratios.

As for LargeOne: referal links are strictly banned. You should know better than to put that as your sig. Just b/c the mods don't recognize its a referal link doesn't make it ok.

LargeOne
Feb 15th, 2009, 10:26 PM
Lots of very very strong, big guys who've been lifting for a long long time swear by purple wraath and green magnitude. And taking those will certainly give you a far bigger difference than changing the ratios of isolate whey for pre and post workout.

99% of the protein hype comes from the whey companies themselves. Watch the Ronnie dvds start to end: how many times do you actually see him down whey?

1. workout properly
2. eat a well-balanced meal with enough protein
3. sleep

that's it. no magic. No need to stress over your casin to isolate ratios.



I would be VERY intereseted in reading your case studies showing the HUGE differences those two products are making over normal creatine and BCAA's.Funny you should mention hype when you are touting purple wrath and green magnitude,kind of ironic dont cha think????
As for ratios making a difference... I am not saying using creatine and BCAA's would not make a bigger difference.What I am saying is that there is a difference between a hydrolyzed isolate and a concentrate.Concentrate contains fat,fat digests at a slower rate.Sorry ,proven scientific fact,you cant argue about it.A hydrolized isolate is pre digested containing no fat and will digest quicker.Once again fact.
If you can make a cookie cutter statement such as isolates to concentrates..no difference then a nice concentrate shake would be okay for a lactose intollerant bodybuilder post W.O ?
Ask around at any of the naturals in North America and see what kind of an answer you get from the top guys in the game.Not many are chugging concentrate post W.O
Oh and by Ronnie I hope you dont mean Ronnie Coleman.Not really a good example of a natural bodybuilder.

df329
Feb 15th, 2009, 11:07 PM
I don't understand the hate i'm seeing towards df329. It seems clear to me at least that he's at least decently knoweldgable about supplements and is just sarcasticly joking around anyway.

Lots of very very strong, big guys who've been lifting for a long long time swear by purple wraath and green magnitude. And taking those will certainly give you a far bigger difference than changing the ratios of isolate whey for pre and post workout.

99% of the protein hype comes from the whey companies themselves. Watch the Ronnie dvds start to end: how many times do you actually see him down whey?

1. workout properly
2. eat a well-balanced meal with enough protein
3. sleep

that's it. no magic. No need to stress over your casin to isolate ratios.

As for LargeOne: referal links are strictly banned. You should know better than to put that as your sig. Just b/c the mods don't recognize its a referal link doesn't make it ok.

someone on my team, finally :!::razz:

df329
Feb 15th, 2009, 11:08 PM
I would be VERY intereseted in reading your case studies showing the HUGE differences those two products are making over normal creatine and BCAA's.Funny you should mention hype when you are touting purple wrath and green magnitude,kind of ironic dont cha think????
As for ratios making a difference... I am not saying using creatine and BCAA's would not make a bigger difference.What I am saying is that there is a difference between a hydrolyzed isolate and a concentrate.Concentrate contains fat,fat digests at a slower rate.Sorry ,proven scientific fact,you cant argue about it.A hydrolized isolate is pre digested containing no fat and will digest quicker.Once again fact.
If you can make a cookie cutter statement such as isolates to concentrates..no difference then a nice concentrate shake would be okay for a lactose intollerant bodybuilder post W.O ?
Ask around at any of the naturals in North America and see what kind of an answer you get from the top guys in the game.Not many are chugging concentrate post W.O
Oh and by Ronnie I hope you dont mean Ronnie Coleman.Not really a good example of a natural bodybuilder.

i just threw those products out there because they taste good and have cool names

even you admit that sitting here thinking about protein mix is pointless. might as well get the cheapest whey and spend other $ on BCAA/creatine instead of another type of whey mix to be used only at 4:23:06PM

bigredlemon
Feb 15th, 2009, 11:33 PM
I would be VERY intereseted in reading your case studies showing the HUGE differences those two products are making over normal creatine and BCAA's.Funny you should mention hype when you are touting purple wrath and green magnitude,kind of ironic dont cha think????
As for ratios making a difference... I am not saying using creatine and BCAA's would not make a bigger difference.What I am saying is that there is a difference between a hydrolyzed isolate and a concentrate.Concentrate contains fat,fat digests at a slower rate.Sorry ,proven scientific fact,you cant argue about it.A hydrolized isolate is pre digested containing no fat and will digest quicker.Once again fact.
If you can make a cookie cutter statement such as isolates to concentrates..no difference then a nice concentrate shake would be okay for a lactose intollerant bodybuilder post W.O ?
Ask around at any of the naturals in North America and see what kind of an answer you get from the top guys in the game.Not many are chugging concentrate post W.O
Oh and by Ronnie I hope you dont mean Ronnie Coleman.Not really a good example of a natural bodybuilder.

The OP asked about protein. you were talking about protein, not bcaa/creatine. Just protein. The difference between them is NEGLIGIBLE. Sure there's tons of studies saying how the absorption rates can be hugely different etc but how much of that makes any real-world difference? It's 99% hype.

getting any reputable cheap whey 75-80% concentrate and using the savings to get creatine, bcaa and waxxy maize would make far more of a difference, and that was the point he was trying to make.

In any case, purple wraath and green mag aren't just creatine/bcaa. they're a mix bag of goodies. Controlled Labs is a reputable company with reasonable prices. Just b/c there's hype doesn't make it bad. CL isn't like muscletech.

And in the case of BCAAs and waxy maize, quality makes a significant difference, so going with a reputable company is worth it.

bigredlemon
Feb 15th, 2009, 11:38 PM
As for ronnie: that overjuiced genetic mutant powerhouse requires far more protein than any normal natural person. He should be taking far more protein supplements like whey than anyone.

Yet the reason he doesn't chug concentrate whey after his workouts in his vids is b/c he doesn't drink whey after them. He goes to a steak house and eats half a horse. He can have all the free and most $$$ whey he wants, and he prefers beef instead.

Your body needs MEAT, not whey. That's why it's a supplement. Save you bucks, get cheap concentrate. There's tons of better things to get. Like chicken.

Or even wraath/magnitude.

df329
Feb 16th, 2009, 08:26 AM
for the record this is what i take:

ON chocolate whey
purple wraath
green mag

LargeOne
Feb 16th, 2009, 10:54 AM
The OP asked about protein. you were talking about protein, not bcaa/creatine. Just protein. The difference between them is NEGLIGIBLE. Sure there's tons of studies saying how the absorption rates can be hugely different etc but how much of that makes any real-world difference? It's 99% hype.
.

Please explain to me how and why this makes no difference? Not just a quote you read on the internet but YOUR explanation.

LargeOne
Feb 16th, 2009, 10:58 AM
getting any reputable cheap whey 75-80% concentrate and using the savings to get creatine, bcaa and waxxy maize would make far more of a difference, and that was the point he was trying to make.

.

Whey does not conatin creatine and waxy maize,I think you might be confused.If you are not worried about absorbtion rates why even mention waxy maize?

dell
Feb 16th, 2009, 11:02 AM
I guess I'm one of the few that go with the all natural route. I go to Loblaws and grab the $20 container of Hemp protein powder. It has no taste but I mix it with any type of juice, chocolate milk, cereal, oatmeal, etc and its been great for me.

LargeOne
Feb 16th, 2009, 11:09 AM
As for ronnie: that overjuiced genetic mutant powerhouse requires far more protein than any normal natural person. He should be taking far more protein supplements like whey than anyone.

Yet the reason he doesn't chug concentrate whey after his workouts in his vids is b/c he doesn't drink whey after them. He goes to a steak house and eats half a horse. He can have all the free and most $$$ whey he wants, and he prefers beef instead.

Your body needs MEAT, not whey. That's why it's a supplement. Save you bucks, get cheap concentrate. There's tons of better things to get. Like chicken.

Or even wraath/magnitude.

You have completely missunderstood my entire point.I am in no way saying any supplement is better than eating solid food.I am saying supplements have their place.I am also saying that different proteins are absorbed at different rates within the body.These are all hard proven facts,not just my opinion.If YOU choose to take advantage of this absorbtion rate then great.If not that is YOUR business not mine.I will always have my clients and myslef use an isolate post workout.Why...its a clean protein and I do not want any fat etc after I workout.I get isolate at a great price so why would I bother with cheap whey???Most cheap whey is loaded with fillers ,sweeteners and everything else under the sun.Sometimes you get what you pay for.Once again this is YOUR opinion and if you are making gains and progressing as expected then stick with it.However like everything in life you might want to try and switch it up and see what happens.

Please do not quote Coleman as an example of anything fitness related.While Ronnie is a nice guy he is a walking bilboard.Watch all the DVD's you want but I can guarantee you that you will not see much outside of what his sponsers are paying for.He will not divulge every aspect of his day to day living,just wont happen.

So enjoy what you are doing,I hope you reach your goals and have a nice day.:)

LargeOne
Feb 16th, 2009, 11:11 AM
I guess I'm one of the few that go with the all natural route. I go to Loblaws and grab the $20 container of Hemp protein powder. It has no taste but I mix it with any type of juice, chocolate milk, cereal, oatmeal, etc and its been great for me.

I ordered some hemp on my last order dell and enjoyed it very much.It had a different flavour,alot like gemma.Have you tried the gemma or rice yet?Along the same lines and both good veggie proteins.

dell
Feb 16th, 2009, 11:22 AM
I use to try all types of protein. Its just that one time I was at Loblaws I was like hey its $20 for a 500g jug of Manitoba Harvest brand so I might as well try it out. That was mid last year and I've been using that ever since. Its all organic with no chemicals/preservative/etc. I mean it doesn't dissolve that well compared to normal protein poweders but I don't care.

No I haven't tried rice/gamma. The only other thing I've added to my diet it Flax seed. I'd buy a bag of it from Food Basics and toss it in the blender to grind it up to more of a powder instead of the full seed. It has a nutty flavor and I add it to cereal/oatmeal and sometimes to my hemp shakes.

LargeOne
Feb 16th, 2009, 11:25 AM
I use to try all types of protein. Its just that one time I was at Loblaws I was like hey its $20 for a 500g jug of Manitoba Harvest brand so I might as well try it out. That was mid last year and I've been using that ever since. Its all organic with no chemicals/preservative/etc. I mean it doesn't dissolve that well compared to normal protein poweders but I don't care.

No I haven't tried rice/gamma. The only other thing I've added to my diet it Flax seed. I'd buy a bag of it from Food Basics and toss it in the blender to grind it up to more of a powder instead of the full seed. It has a nutty flavor and I add it to cereal/oatmeal and sometimes to my hemp shakes.

Flax is great and nice to see you know your stuff and are grinding the seeds up.Whole seeds pass right through us and are of little use.Powder on the other hand...well...the benefits are endless!!

df329
Feb 16th, 2009, 12:15 PM
and flax seed oil is even better if u can stomach it

you need to eat a lot of flax seeds to get 1-2tbsp of oil

LargeOne
Feb 16th, 2009, 12:46 PM
and flax seed oil is even better if u can stomach it

you need to eat a lot of flax seeds to get 1-2tbsp of oil

Very true,often mixing it can help the flavour if you have a difficulty with it..

bigredlemon
Feb 16th, 2009, 12:58 PM
Please explain to me how and why this makes no difference? Not just a quote you read on the internet but YOUR explanation.

You have completely missunderstood my entire point.I am in no way saying any supplement is better than eating solid food.I am saying supplements have their place.I am also saying that different proteins are absorbed at different rates within the body.These are all hard proven facts,not just my opinion.If YOU choose to take advantage of this absorbtion rate then great.If not that is YOUR business not mine.I will always have my clients and myslef use an isolate post workout.Why...its a clean protein and I do not want any fat etc after I workout.I get isolate at a great price so why would I bother with cheap whey???

Most cheap whey is loaded with fillers ,sweeteners and everything else under the sun.Sometimes you get what you pay for.Once again this is YOUR opinion and if you are making gains and progressing as expected then stick with it.However like everything in life you might want to try and switch it up and see what happens.

Please do not quote Coleman as an example of anything fitness related.While Ronnie is a nice guy he is a walking bilboard.Watch all the DVD's you want but I can guarantee you that you will not see much outside of what his sponsers are paying for.He will not divulge every aspect of his day to day living,just wont happen.

So enjoy what you are doing,I hope you reach your goals and have a nice day.:)

I meant the difference in the results they provide. Getting protein to hit your body 1 minute earlier, with a bioavailability thats a little bit higher, will not make much of a difference, if any. It's probably on par with the detrimental effects of the stress you're getting over finding the right jug of protein for the occasion.

In the real world, it just makes no difference. (Except on your wallet).

As for cheap whey being loaded with fillers: that's a lie. WPC80 contains 80% protein, just like WPI80. They have the same amount of fillers. Sure if you're comparing WPI90 with WPC75 there's a big difference, but you can just eat a bit more of the cheaper concentrate. Eating an extra 6 grams of lactose will not matter. Paying more than triple the price does.

And in any case, you'll be taking your whey with carbs when you're downing it anyway. So once that big mix is finished, the two drinks will look something like:

$2.00
40g carbs
40g protein

$0.75
40g carbs
40g protein.

Which one do you choose?

The only real difference that I would care about is that premium protein tend to have a better amino acid profile. But if you are eating meat, the effects of that difference is irrelevant.

It's basically a case of Monster Cable vs. Monoprice.

Sure the monster cable might have 2% better shielding, 3% better noise profile, but at the end of the day no one can tell the resulting image apart.

bigredlemon
Feb 16th, 2009, 12:59 PM
Whey does not conatin creatine and waxy maize,I think you might be confused.If you are not worried about absorbtion rates why even mention waxy maize?

I said the person was better off saving the money from buying premium isolate, and using that money to buy creatine/waxy maize.

LargeOne
Feb 16th, 2009, 02:09 PM
Bigredlemon;I meant the difference in the results they provide. Getting protein to hit your body 1 minute earlier, with a bioavailability that's a little bit higher, will not make much of a difference, if any.

[Please provide some scientific research as to the time difference.

It's probably on par with the detrimental effects of the stress you're getting over finding the right jug of protein for the occasion.

Once again,you are making a false statement.I feel absolutely no stress at all and if you would care to provide a study comparing isolate digestion vs. The effects of cortisol I would love to read it
Once again please prove this statement.Have you tried using an isolate as compared to a concentrate?I have on many individuals over the years including myself.

In the real world, it just makes no difference. (Except on your wallet).

My wallet is fine thanks

As for cheap whey being loaded with fillers: that's a lie. WPC80 contains 80% protein, just like WPI80. They have the same amount of fillers. Sure if you're comparing WPI90 with WPC75 there's a big difference, but you can just eat a bit more of the cheaper concentrate. Eating an extra 6 grams of lactose will not matter. Paying more than triple the price does.

So concentrate doesn't contain lactose or salt...hmmmm...once again please find me some evidence.Banging off numbers looks impressive but lets be real you said CHEAP concentrate.I stand by my statement that most CHEAP concentrates are loaded with fillers.

And in any case, you'll be taking your whey with carbs when you're downing it anyway. So once that big mix is finished, the two drinks will look something like:

Once again a falsehood.I do not take carbs with my whey post workout.I wish you would stop posting untruths to try and make your point.
$2.00
40g carbs
40g protein

$0.75
40g carbs
40g protein.

Which one do you choose?

There you go again pulling numbers out of the air.If you are going to compare the two at least add in the fat,sodium etc with your concentrate numbers

The only real difference that I would care about is that premium protein tend to have a better amino acid profile. But if you are eating meat, the effects of that difference is irrelevant.

How much meat and in what quantities?Saying it is irrelevant is a bold statement and once again please provide quantities and solid research.

df329
Feb 16th, 2009, 02:23 PM
people only use large text like that when they know they're losing an argument :lol:

XxXSnake23XxX
Feb 16th, 2009, 02:30 PM
people only use large text like that when they know they're losing an argument :lol:
bun supps
COTTAGE CHEESE FTW!!!!!
teehee!
i win!

Waterfordgirl
Feb 16th, 2009, 03:29 PM
You will get the best selection at Popeyes - there's one in Mississauga.

LargeOne
Feb 16th, 2009, 03:56 PM
people only use large text like that when they know they're losing an argument :lol:

People only use large text when they are useless on a computer:lol::lol:

Kujo
Feb 16th, 2009, 04:27 PM
and flax seed oil is even better if u can stomach it

you need to eat a lot of flax seeds to get 1-2tbsp of oil


Very true,often mixing it can help the flavour if you have a difficulty with it..

Not to get off topic, but this is debatable.

Flax oil doesn't have the fiber, and the same amount anti-cancer lignans found in the seed. The seed is also good for your digestive system.

http://www.goldenflax.com/flax-seed-oil.html

I used to take Udo's Oil, which is a combination of flax, and other oils. After hearing about the potential links to prostate cancer, I decided to switch to flax seed. Plus, fish oil is superior in every way. I was taking fish oil when I was using flax, I just use more more fish oil now.

http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/healthy-food-can-flaxseed-oil-cause-prostate-cancer.html

I buy organic cold milled flax seed from costco.

bigredlemon
Feb 16th, 2009, 07:07 PM
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Oh yes the "my font is bigger so i'm right" defense. lets let get too stirred up less someone wants to invoke the 72pt font attack.

I managed to read a few lines before I decided I hate reading giant text. Esp text that contradicts itself, ignores, and misconstrues what I actually said.

LargeOne
Feb 16th, 2009, 07:15 PM
Oh yes the "my font is bigger so i'm right" defense. lets let get too stirred up less someone wants to invoke the 72pt font attack.

I managed to read a few lines before I decided I hate reading giant text. Esp text that contradicts itself, ignores, and misconstrues what I actually said.

Get over yourself.I whole heartedly admited I do not know my way around a computer.I tried several times to multiple quote and could not.I eventually tried to cut and paste and tried to make the font bigger.Unfortunately I made it too large and then could not edit.If you want to try and discredit my stand point then fine but do not launch a character assault based on the size of my font and a mistake.Or run to a mod and complain about my signature.

Computers are an amazing tool.The problem however arises when someone googles an answer or reads a discussion board and becomes an expert."Well over at I wanna be a bodybuilder dot whatever they said this so it must be true".Not too hard to find out where they get their info.Google it and most material is usually in the first two links.I have put everything that I say into practice for many years,guess what it works for me .If you think differently,great, use it I hope it goes well for you.I will continue to use what works for me and others.Good night,good bye,I wish you all the best in your pursuit of physical fitness.

df329
Feb 16th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Get over yourself.I whole heartedly admited I do not know my way around a computer.I tried several times to multiple quote and could not.I eventually tried to cut and paste and tried to make the font bigger.Unfortunately I made it too large and then could not edit.If you want to try and discredit my stand point then fine but do not launch a character assault based on the size of my font and a mistake.Or run to a mod and complain about my signature.

Computers are an amazing tool.The problem however arises when someone googles an answer or reads a discussion board and becomes an expert."Well over at I wanna be a bodybuilder dot whatever they said this so it must be true".Not too hard to find out where they get their info.Google it and most material is usually in the first two links.I have put everything that I say into practice for many years,guess what it works for me .If you think differently,great, use it I hope it goes well for you.I will continue to use what works for me and others.Good night,good bye,I wish you all the best in your pursuit of physical fitness.

anecdotal evidence vs randomly tossed around facts

i'm going with randomly tossed around facts

reset
Feb 18th, 2009, 08:33 AM
Get over yourself.I whole heartedly admited I do not know my way around a computer.I tried several times to multiple quote and could not.I eventually tried to cut and paste and tried to make the font bigger.Unfortunately I made it too large and then could not edit.If you want to try and discredit my stand point then fine but do not launch a character assault based on the size of my font and a mistake.Or run to a mod and complain about my signature.

Computers are an amazing tool.The problem however arises when someone googles an answer or reads a discussion board and becomes an expert."Well over at I wanna be a bodybuilder dot whatever they said this so it must be true".Not too hard to find out where they get their info.Google it and most material is usually in the first two links.I have put everything that I say into practice for many years,guess what it works for me .If you think differently,great, use it I hope it goes well for you.I will continue to use what works for me and others.Good night,good bye,I wish you all the best in your pursuit of physical fitness.

dang, someone tries posting decent (health) info and it turns into a war.

and now we lost a coupon to use (was in largeones signature a couple of days ago) if buying whey - not very RFD like.

Thanks to the other poster for the info about Udo's choice, i was taking that for awhile but if it has possible health risks it doesnt seem worth the premium expense

geestring
Feb 18th, 2009, 09:44 PM
is there a good deal on whey I can buy in store? I don't want to purchase it online.

Im doing p90x and I'm looking to make some healthy weight gainer shakes.

mjjrules
Feb 21st, 2009, 01:07 AM
GNC is having I BOGO 50% off on selected brands. Usually they are way over priced, but with this deal you save a few $. I picked up 4 2lb containers of Whey Gourmet (so tasty!)

EvertonFC
Feb 21st, 2009, 10:18 AM
Popeyes Supplements. Cheapest brand name retail prices you can find.

LargeOne
Feb 21st, 2009, 11:44 AM
As with all supplements read the label and understand what you are looking at.Dont be ruled by taste alone!

petey123
Feb 21st, 2009, 04:34 PM
Just a fyi, if you're new to supplements I highly recommend this oldie but goodie:

http://pogue972.blogspot.com/2006/04/sports-supplements-guide-for-beginners.html

I'd avoid GNC unless it's for small purchases, their gold price is sometimes higher than standard price @ popeyes. And I really believe their employees have to meet a multivitamin quota =/

Matryx
Feb 22nd, 2009, 09:49 PM
taste is everthing :cheesygri

As with all supplements read the label and understand what you are looking at.Dont be ruled by taste alone!

LargeOne
Feb 23rd, 2009, 09:23 AM
taste is everthing :cheesygri

:lol: Unfortunately, believe or not ,that is how most who are new to fitness choose there protein.This is what has helped many of the supplement companies stay in business as long as they have. While taste is nice it shouldnt really be a deciding factor.Treat supplements like medicine not treats.Worrying about the taste of protein would be like going to the doctor and him giving you a list of flavours to choose for your antibiotics.Or having that big piece of apple pie and checking with the cook to see how much protein and EAA's per slice.Medicine is medicine and treats are treats never confuse the two.

Matryx
Feb 23rd, 2009, 08:18 PM
Taste and mixability is the deciding factors for me. Protein supplements are just supplements I only use them in the morning and PWO and get enough of my proteins from whole foods. Protein supplements are probably like 20% of my daily protein intake. When I first started lifting 6-7 years ago I bought some pretty disgusting protein. It tasted horrible and made me gag. I dread every time I had to down one. So yes taste is really important to me. There is no reason to have to go through that when you can buy a protein that is just as good and enjoy it every time.

:lol: Unfortunately, believe or not ,that is how most who are new to fitness choose there protein.This is what has helped many of the supplement companies stay in business as long as they have. While taste is nice it shouldnt really be a deciding factor.Treat supplements like medicine not treats.Worrying about the taste of protein would be like going to the doctor and him giving you a list of flavours to choose for your antibiotics.Or having that big piece of apple pie and checking with the cook to see how much protein and EAA's per slice.Medicine is medicine and treats are treats never confuse the two.

LargeOne
Feb 24th, 2009, 09:18 AM
Taste and mixability is the deciding factors for me. Protein supplements are just supplements I only use them in the morning and PWO and get enough of my proteins from whole foods. Protein supplements are probably like 20% of my daily protein intake. When I first started lifting 6-7 years ago I bought some pretty disgusting protein. It tasted horrible and made me gag. I dread every time I had to down one. So yes taste is really important to me. There is no reason to have to go through that when you can buy a protein that is just as good and enjoy it every time.

As I mentioned earlier most people buy on that premise.Head to the local GNC and ask about their protein.The first thing they will tell you is how it tastes ,the second ,how many g's of protein per serving you are getting,thats it.
I have spent countless hours in the gym and kitchen to acheive what I have thus far.My choice of supplements is benefits based.I am VERY aware of what I eat and drink.To spend an hour in the gym and follow it up with a less than optimal meal that takes all of ten seconds to consume does not make sense.
Now I am not talking about gagging and vomiting.My whole point is ,there are many proteins available that taste great and are also a very solid product.Make those your first choice,great tatste should be a pleasant biproduct not a deciding factor.