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windey
Feb 11th, 2009, 02:11 PM
http://ad.greatmost.com/?view=showad&adid=710&cityid=0&lang=en

gordga
Feb 11th, 2009, 02:13 PM
How is this a hot deal?????

Damed
Feb 11th, 2009, 02:13 PM
Wow! HOT Deal.

hopsoid
Feb 11th, 2009, 02:13 PM
And how's that a hot deal?

eesh
Feb 11th, 2009, 02:14 PM
Wrong forum!

Edit: fixed :)

chrisanthony14
Feb 11th, 2009, 02:15 PM
not a deal but good information lol

rchong
Feb 11th, 2009, 03:05 PM
I think motorcycling, bicycling, and walking are more dangerous!

coriolis
Feb 11th, 2009, 03:09 PM
Wheres the Koenigsegg? :lol:

weare3
Feb 15th, 2009, 04:24 AM
Wow! HOT Deal.

Make that flaming hot with explosions to boot.

GoiNGPoSTaL
Feb 15th, 2009, 04:42 AM
Why was this posted in some free classified site, trying to get traffic?

CaptSmethwick
Feb 15th, 2009, 07:54 AM
What a useless link. How do crash test results alone make a vehicle "dangerous"?

belgiangenius
Feb 15th, 2009, 09:59 AM
I think the point is, if you bought one of these, you got phucked.

time space
Feb 15th, 2009, 10:16 AM
And in related news - Top Safety Picks for 2009 (http://www.wickenburgnews.com/2009safestvehicles.htm).

ALL 72 WINNERS


Large cars

Acura RL
Audi A6
Cadillac CTS
Ford Taurus
Lincoln MKS
Mercury Sable
Toyota Avalon
Volvo S80

Midsize cars

Acura TL, TSX
Audi A3, A4
BMW 3 series 4-door models
Ford Fusion with optional electronic stability control
Honda Accord 4-door models
Mercedes C class
Mercury Milan with optional electronic stability control
Saab 9-3
Subaru Legacy
Volkswagen Jetta, Passat

Midsize convertibles

Saab 9-3
Volkswagen Eos
Volvo C70

Small cars

Honda Civic 4-door models (except Si) with optional electronic stability control
Mitsubishi Lancer with optional electronic stability control
Scion xB
Subaru Impreza with optional electronic stability control
Toyota Corolla with optional electronic stability control
Volkswagen Rabbit

Minicar

Honda Fit with optional electronic stability control

Minivans

Honda Odyssey
Hyundai Entourage
Kia Sedona

Large SUVs

Audi Q7
Buick Enclave
Chevrolet Traverse
GMC Acadia
Saturn Outlook

Midsize SUVs

Acura MDX, RDX
BMW X3, X5
Ford Edge, Flex, Taurus X
Honda Pilot
Hyundai Santa Fe, Veracruz
Infiniti EX35
Lincoln MKX
Mercedes M class
Nissan Murano
Saturn VUE
Subaru Tribeca
Toyota FJ Cruiser, Highlander
Volvo XC90

Small SUVs

Ford Escape
Honda CR-V, Element
Mazda Tribute
Mercury Mariner
Mitsubishi Outlander
Nissan Rogue
Subaru Forester
Toyota RAV4
Volkswagen Tiguan

Large pickups

Ford F-150
Honda Ridgeline
Toyota Tundra

Small pickup

Toyota Tacoma

time space
Feb 15th, 2009, 10:18 AM
What a useless link. How do crash test results alone make a vehicle "dangerous"?

Of course, driver error (both yourself and other drivers) accounts for the majority of accidents, but if the same driver has a choice between a car rated safe and a car rated dangerous, why would they not choose a "safer" car?

CaptSmethwick
Feb 15th, 2009, 05:34 PM
Of course, driver error (both yourself and other drivers) accounts for the majority of accidents, but if the same driver has a choice between a car rated safe and a car rated dangerous, why would they not choose a "safer" car?

Oh, I get the point and I would avoid each and every one of these vehicles if I was buying in their respective markets.

The point I was getting at is that 2/3s of the vehicles on this list would do better than a Civic in a head-on between the two and yet the Civic isn't on the list. "Most dangerous cars" would be small cars with poor crash test ratings. And, no, the Civic shouldn't be among them.

If I gave a rodent's hindquarters, I would probably fatigue of ill-conceived lists. Fortunately, I'm still somewhat amused by them.

Just for kicks, let's use the personal injury claim record found on IIHS (link: http://www.iihs.org/research/hldi/composite_bw.aspx?y=2005-2007&cv=pipto rank the vehicles with the worst personal injury record (in terms of insurance claims) in model years 2005-07


Suzuki Forenza Small four-door models 226
Toyota Yaris Mini four-door models 208
Mitsubishi Galant Midsize four-door models 199
Kia Spectra Small four-door models 195
Suzuki Reno Small four-door models 191
Nissan Versa Small four-door models 178
Kia Rio Mini four-door models 175
Chevrolet Aveo Mini four-door models 174
Scion tC Small two-door models 172
Hyundai Tiburon Small two-door models 169


In the meantime, perusing the same data base for the real-world safety performance of the vehicles on this "most dangerous" list, we find the following personal injury ratings:

(1) Chevrolet Aveo - substantially worse than average
(2) Chevrolet Colorado - average
(3) Chevrolet Trailblazer - average
(4) Chrysler PT Cruiser - worse than average
(5) Dodge Nitro - average / worse than average
(6) Ford Ranger - average
(7) GMC Canyon - substantially better than average
(8) GMC Envoy - average / better than average
(9) Hummer H3 - better than average
(10) Hyundai Accent - substantially worse than average
(11) Jeep Liberty - average
(12) Jeep Wrangler - substantially better than average
(13) Kia Rio - substantially worse than average
(14) Mazda B Series - insufficient data
(15) Nissan Frontier - average
(16) Suzuki Equator - ?

What I found puzzling about this "most dangerous" list is that 7 of the 16 vehicles have a better personal injury claim record (per registered vehicle) than the Toyota Camry - a vehicle few would suggest as being dangerous.

Now, if the list had listed the most dangerous of a certain class of vehicles, I'd be okay but this link is utterly useless.