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Jaytee
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:11 AM
Simple question that causes confusion with my friends and co workers.

When you say "next {day of the week}", do you mean this coming {day of the week} or do you mean next week {day of the week}??

Which one is correct??

shannn
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:21 AM
If someone said "....next Saturday..." to me today, I would be inclined to think they were tlaking about Feb 21, not Feb 14

If they meant the 14th, they shoudl say "...this Saturday..."

And if they were talking about Feb 7, they should say, "...this past Saturday..."

Just IMO though...but if confusion persists, you could always mention the date to stop confusion (it'll keep you mentally sharp too, lol, having to know the date)

Hairball
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:22 AM
I think it would mean the Saturday of the week after, so using today as the context, it would mean the Sat Feb 21st

But these words are kind of ambiguous. I just think of it as "the Saturday next week", which is not "this week".

Get it? I guess not.

_Allan_
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:24 AM
this Saturday, was Feb. 7, next Saturday is Feb. 14

zydus
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:26 AM
If someone said "....next Saturday..." to me today, I would be inclined to think they were tlaking about Feb 21, not Feb 14

If they meant the 14th, they shoudl say "...this Saturday..."

And if they were talking about Feb 7, they should say, "...this past Saturday..."

Just IMO though...but if confusion persists, you could always mention the date to stop confusion (it'll keep you mentally sharp too, lol, having to know the date)

+1

This saturday = Saturday this week.
Next saturday = Skip the first Saturday ( i.e. this week ) and the next one.

Hairball
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:28 AM
It's just like how people do not understand what 12:00 am means. It's the start of a new day.

But maybe because I am a programmer, so I actually think in that way.

rems
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:35 AM
Next to me means the day after the upcoming one.

this Saturday, was Feb. 7, next Saturday is Feb. 14

I think that way depends on the context. If you were talking to someone and said you "saw a movie this Saturday", then they know you meant the past Saturday (Feb 7). But if you said "I'm seeing a movie this Saturday", that would mean Feb 14

ndrew029
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:36 AM
Like someone mentioned above, use the "this past", "this", and "next" format and you can't go wrong. But you'll likely always have the oddball that tries to screw you up, so a concrete date is always your best bet.

I can see the argument, even though I don't agree with it. You can't really say "this Saturday" when it has not arrived yet and you are anticipating it. It's like saying "this train" when there is no train in front of you...you really mean the "next train".

Our understanding of it was likely shortened from "This week Saturday". In English, we're always trying to get rid of words and I wonder if it has saved us any time at all (i.e. having to clarify dates all the time instead of it being implicitly understood).

Snicla
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:39 AM
+1

This saturday = Saturday this week.
Next saturday = Skip the first Saturday ( i.e. this week ) and the next one.

+1

Only time Next Saturday means the closest Saturday is on a Saturday, or sometimes Sunday.

ppcuser
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:42 AM
To me:

Next implies 'upcoming' in English.
'Next Saturday' would imply the upcoming Saturday.
Thus you can use this on a Friday to imply (tomorrow) as 'next Saturday'.

If I want to mention the Saturday after that, I simply say 'Next to Next Saturday' (which is quite common). An alternative to that is 'Next week Saturday' (which some people use).

As others state, if there is confusion, use a physical date.

Jon Lai
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:53 AM
"Next" is usually used to refer to "next week". Next Saturday would imply "the Saturday of next week". Since Saturday is always the last day of the week, "next Saturday" will always refer to the Saturday after the coming Saturday, and "this Saturday" will always refer to the Saturday of the present week, because "this" in "this Saturday" means "this week". Since there is no day after Saturday in a week, "this" refers to the coming Saturday.

AcidBomber
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:54 AM
+1

This saturday = Saturday this week.
Next saturday = Skip the first Saturday ( i.e. this week ) and the next one.


+1 :cheesygri

NiMSo
Feb 9th, 2009, 11:43 AM
I always use the numerical date - prevents a lot of confusion!!!

Snicla
Feb 9th, 2009, 11:51 AM
What pisses me off is that bi-weekly is supposedly twice a month, when it really should be twice a week.

For example, bi-monthly = two times a month, bi-annually = two times a year. Only when you get to the weeks does it become ********. ****ing English.

googoo
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:03 PM
NO, next Saturday is THE NEXT Saturday, and that could be 6 days or 1 day away.

Brent

NiMSo
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:18 PM
NO, next Saturday is THE NEXT Saturday, and that could be 6 days or 1 day away.

Brent

LoL - yeah, sometimes I think that too. In my head, the term "next" often automatically assumes the next one that comes up. That's why it can be confusing to some people. At first glance, the terms can understandably be ambiguous, so people should really state the precise date to make it clear!!!

(And another side rant - I hate the U.S. variation in date conventions. Most people in the world use day/month/year, but the U.S. stubbornly uses month/day/year... e.g. WTF do you mean by "3/4/2009"?! That confuses the crap outta me whenever people don't clarify the standard they're using.)

Hairball
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:27 PM
LoL - yeah, sometimes I think that too. In my head, the term "next" often automatically assumes the next one that comes up. That's why it can be confusing to some people. At first glance, the terms can understandably be ambiguous, so people should really state the precise date to make it clear!!!

(And another side rant - I hate the U.S. variation in date conventions. Most people in the world use day/month/year, but the U.S. stubbornly uses month/day/year... e.g. WTF do you mean by "3/4/2009"?! That confuses the crap outta me whenever people don't clarify the standard they're using.)

Most people use M/D/Y here in Canada too, but I think for non-ambiguous dates it's best to write out the month, or use Y/M/D which is always clear.

bokep
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:35 PM
NO, next Saturday is THE NEXT Saturday, and that could be 6 days or 1 day away.

Brent
NO **** YOU MAN NEXT SATURDAY = NEXT WEEK SATURDAY

LoL - yeah, sometimes I think that too. In my head, the term "next" often automatically assumes the next one that comes up. That's why it can be confusing to some people. At first glance, the terms can understandably be ambiguous, so people should really state the precise date to make it clear!!!

(And another side rant - I hate the U.S. variation in date conventions. Most people in the world use day/month/year, but the U.S. stubbornly uses month/day/year... e.g. WTF do you mean by "3/4/2009"?! That confuses the crap outta me whenever people don't clarify the standard they're using.)

this is the ****ing worst. d/m/y is used widely but north americans don't follow this convention. it's terrible when you're trying to decide if something has way past its expiry date. i usually just eat it anyway, but still.

to make things more complicated, i've ran into expiry dates that go y/m/d. something like 09/06/08. holy ****.

Tijuana
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:40 PM
On Monday Feb 9th

This Saturday = Feb 14th
Next Saturday = Feb 21st

On Saturday Feb 14th
Next Saturday = Feb 21st

On Sunday Feb 15th

This Saturday = Feb 21th
Next Saturday = Feb 28th

That's how it goes

bokep
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:42 PM
SPEAKING OF DATES, THE WEEK BEGINS ON MONDAY NOT SUNDAY AND **** YOU IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE

damn calendars

Jon Lai
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:45 PM
SPEAKING OF DATES, THE WEEK BEGINS ON MONDAY NOT SUNDAY AND **** YOU IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE

damn calendars

No, Sunday is the first day of the week. How can anyone not know that?

Tijuana
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:46 PM
No, Sunday is the first day of the week. How can anyone not know that?

+1

Sunday is the first day of the week, Monday is the first day of a work week, if you ever worked on Sunday, you'd know that.

r0binh00d
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:46 PM
NO, next Saturday is THE NEXT Saturday, and that could be 6 days or 1 day away.

Brent

Agreed. It is the First Saturday that comes after the comment.

Considering today Feb 9 then "Next Saturday" = Feb 14

Definition of NEXT

1. immediately following in time, order, importance, etc.: the next day; the next person in line.
2. nearest or adjacent in place or position: the next room.
3. nearest in relationship or kinship.

Tijuana
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:48 PM
On Monday Feb 9th

This Saturday = Feb 14th
Next Saturday = Feb 21st

On Saturday Feb 14th
Next Saturday = Feb 21st

On Sunday Feb 15th

This Saturday = Feb 21th
Next Saturday = Feb 28th

That's how it goes

Agreed. It is the First Saturday that comes after the comment.

Considering today Feb 9 then "Next Saturday" = Feb 14

Wrong this upcoming Saturday would be the 14th, so how can this upcoming and next be the same?

_Allan_
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:51 PM
ON the 7th Day, GOD Rested. Therefore, Monday is the first day of the week, Sunday is the 7th day if ppl followed the proper Biblical way of doing things, but we don't so in the 'Bank" world, Sunday is first, Saturday is last.

This Saturday was the one that just passed (ie the 7th), next Saturday is the one coming up (ie the 14th).

sexpuppet6000
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:53 PM
this Saturday, was Feb. 7, next Saturday is Feb. 14

Stop confusing the world with your wrongness.

Feb 7 = last Saturday (as it was LAST WEEK)
Feb 14 = this Saturday
Feb 21 = next Saturday

Tijuana
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:53 PM
ON the 7th Day, GOD Rested. Therefore, Monday is the first day of the week, Sunday is the 7th day if ppl followed the proper Biblical way of doing things, but we don't so in the 'Bank" world, Sunday is first, Saturday is last.

This Saturday was the one that just passed (ie the 7th), next Saturday is the one coming up (ie the 14th).

Saturday was the original Sabbath

Jesus was crucified on a Friday and rose on a Sunday. So what did he do on Saturday? He rested, he rested on the Sabbath, the Seventh day of the week, Saturday.
The original Sabbath (shabbat, shabbos, shabbes, shobos, etc.) is a weekly day of rest for everyone, now observed from sundown on Friday until the appearance of three stars in the sky on Saturday night.

Stop confusing the world with your wrongness.

Feb 7 = last Saturday (as it was LAST WEEK)
Feb 14 = this Saturday
Feb 21 = next Saturday

/answer

sexpuppet6000
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:55 PM
ON the 7th Day, GOD Rested. Therefore, Monday is the first day of the week, Sunday is the 7th day if ppl followed the proper Biblical way of doing things, but we don't so in the 'Bank" world, Sunday is first, Saturday is last.

This Saturday was the one that just passed (ie the 7th), next Saturday is the one coming up (ie the 14th).

whoa there buddy

Eyies
Feb 9th, 2009, 12:57 PM
this Saturday, was Feb. 7, next Saturday is Feb. 14

+1


On Monday Feb 9th

This Saturday = Feb 14th
Next Saturday = Feb 21st

On Saturday Feb 14th
Next Saturday = Feb 21st

On Sunday Feb 15th

This Saturday = Feb 21th
Next Saturday = Feb 28th

That's how it goes
+1!

No, Sunday is the first day of the week. How can anyone not know that?

Um, not always some/many calendars use Monday as the first day of the week.

SAN66
Feb 9th, 2009, 01:02 PM
What pisses me off is that bi-weekly is supposedly twice a month, when it really should be twice a week.

For example, bi-monthly = two times a month, bi-annually = two times a year. Only when you get to the weeks does it become ********. ****ing English.

This is actually the bigger confusion to me as apparently bi-weekly can either mean twice a week or every second week and they're both proper English!

ppcuser
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:00 PM
NO, next Saturday is THE NEXT Saturday, and that could be 6 days or 1 day away.

Brent

Exactly.

Jon Lai
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:02 PM
+1



+1!



Um, not always some/many calendars use Monday as the first day of the week.

You realize you +1ed to two different contradicting conventions :lol::lol:

No, Sunday is the first day of the week. Throw your Monday-starting calendars out, it's wrong.

rems
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:02 PM
Agreed. It is the First Saturday that comes after the comment.

Considering today Feb 9 then "Next Saturday" = Feb 14

Definition of NEXT

1. immediately following in time, order, importance, etc.: the next day; the next person in line.
2. nearest or adjacent in place or position: the next room.
3. nearest in relationship or kinship.

The difference is that in the next day, you're already in the present day. So the next one is the one immediately following the one you're in. When you're not in that present day, the next one is the one after the upcoming one.

ppcuser
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:09 PM
The difference is that in the next day, you're already in the present day. So the next one is the one immediately following the one you're in. When you're not in that present day, the next one is the one after the upcoming one.

You're getting confused. Let's assume today is Monday, Feb. 9th (which it is).
'Next Saturday' is Saturday Feb. 14th.

Now let's assume today is Saturday Feb. 14th.
'Next Saturday' would be Saturday Feb. 21st.

NEXT IMPLIES UPCOMING ;)

End of story!

Tijuana
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:17 PM
You're getting confused. Let's assume today is Monday, Feb. 9th (which it is).
'Next Saturday' is Saturday Feb. 14th.

Now let's assume today is Saturday Feb. 14th.
'Next Saturday' would be Saturday Feb. 21st.

NEXT IMPLIES UPCOMING ;)

End of story!

That's wrong again. Next means the next one after the current. The current is the 14th, since the week begins on sunday(or monday, doesnt change anything)

On Monday Feb 9th

This Saturday = Feb 14th
Next Saturday = Feb 21st

On Saturday Feb 14th
Next Saturday = Feb 21st

On Sunday Feb 15th

This Saturday = Feb 21th
Next Saturday = Feb 28th

That's how it goes

ppcuser
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:19 PM
That's wrong again. Next means the next one after the current. The current is the 14th, since the week begins on sunday(or monday, doesnt change anything)

Where is your reasoning? Do you even know what the word 'next' means? Upcoming.

angekfire
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:23 PM
When I say 'next' I mean the next one coming up. So in this case, if I said it today I would be referring to February 14th.

Usually I will clarify anyway because I know most people get confused and aren't sure which I mean, so I will say "The Saturday coming up" or "Not this Saturday, but the week after."

rems
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:26 PM
You're getting confused. Let's assume today is Monday, Feb. 9th (which it is).
'Next Saturday' is Saturday Feb. 14th.

Now let's assume today is Saturday Feb. 14th.
'Next Saturday' would be Saturday Feb. 21st.

NEXT IMPLIES UPCOMING ;)

End of story!

to me next means the one after. that's why if it's saturday feb 7th today the next one is sat feb 14. But if it's monday feb 8, the next sat is sat feb 21.

ppcuser
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:26 PM
BTW Tijuana as an addition to my example if today is Feb. 9th, Next-to-next Saturday means Sat. Feb. 21st. That is a pretty common term (next-to-next).

Jon Lai
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:29 PM
Where is your reasoning? Do you even know what the word 'next' means? Upcoming.

Next means "next week". Next Saturday means the Saturday of "next week". Upcoming Saturday is the Saturday of "this week" so it is "this Saturday". The Saturday after that happens during next week so it is "next Saturday".

danfromwaterloo
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:32 PM
Simple question that causes confusion with my friends and co workers.

When you say "next {day of the week}", do you mean this coming {day of the week} or do you mean next week {day of the week}??

Which one is correct??

"This Saturday" is a shortened version of "This coming Saturday" when used with current or future tense. When used with past tense, "This Saturday" becomes the recently passed Saturday.

For example:

"My birthday party is this Saturday" - February 14th.

"My birthday party was this Saturday" - February 7th.

"My birthday party is next Saturday" - February 21st.

CodecX81
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:35 PM
If someone said "next Saturday" any day after the current Saturday, (Sunday and onwards) I'd assume it was a Saturday after the upcoming Saturday.

e.g. current week right now is going to be Feb 14th. Next would be Feb 21.
If someone said "This Saturday" on any day after the current Saturday, (Sunday and onwards) I'd assume it was the Saturday coming up next.

Barayolayosa
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:41 PM
This Saturday = this coming Saturday = Feb 14
Next Saturday = the Saturday after this Saturday = Feb 21

Date convention is MM/DD/YYYY. Ie. if you were to ask me the date, I would say "February 9th, 2009".

gordholio
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:46 PM
Next Saturday is the 7th day of next week.

SAN66
Feb 9th, 2009, 02:59 PM
Date convention is MM/DD/YYYY. Ie. if you were to ask me the date, I would say "February 9th, 2009".

And in numeric form? mm-dd-yyyy, dd-mm-yyyy, and yyyy-mm-dd are all acceptable in Canada, which makes things confusing as hell.

gateway
Feb 9th, 2009, 03:04 PM
it means no "all star saturday night" for me!! :(

gotta spend some quality with the gf according to her....

guess gonna have to watch the replay, at least will be doing so with a few of my other fds :lol:

Tijuana
Feb 9th, 2009, 03:26 PM
Where is your reasoning? Do you even know what the word 'next' means? Upcoming.

Because, how can this upcoming saturday and next saturday be the same date? You need to reach the saturday of the 14th in order to say next. because last saturday was the 7th, so that means THIS saturday is the 14th, and next is the 21th

LAST = 7th
THIS = 14th
NEXT = 21st

That's my reasoning

Becks
Feb 10th, 2009, 11:22 PM
I thought this thread was about Valentines Day!