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dairymandip
Feb 7th, 2009, 10:49 AM
Ouch AFRAUD


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/02/07/alex-rodriguez-steroids/index.html?eref=T1

Sources tell SI Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003

By Selena Roberts and David Epstein

In 2003, when he won the American League home run title and the AL Most Valuable Player award as a shortstop for the Texas Rangers, Alex Rodriguez tested positive for two anabolic steroids, four sources have independently told Sports Illustrated.

Rodriguez's name appears on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in Major League Baseball's '03 survey testing, SI's sources say. As part of a joint agreement with the MLB Players Association, the testing was conducted to determine if it was necessary to impose mandatory random drug testing across the major leagues in 2004.

When approached by an SI reporter on Thursday at a gym in Miami, Rodriguez declined to discuss his 2003 test results. "You'll have to talk to the union," said Rodriguez, the Yankees' third baseman since his trade to New York in February 2004. When asked if there was an explanation for his positive test, he said, "I'm not saying anything."

Phone messages left by SI for players' union executive director Donald Fehr were not returned.

Though MLB's drug policy has expressly prohibited the use of steroids without a valid prescription since 1991, there were no penalties for a positive test in 2003. The results of that year's survey testing of 1,198 players were meant to be anonymous under the agreement between the commissioner's office and the players association. Rodriguez's testing information was found, however, after federal agents, armed with search warrants, seized the '03 test results from Comprehensive Drug Testing, Inc., of Long Beach, Calif., one of two labs used by MLB in connection with that year's survey testing. The seizure took place in April 2004 as part of the government's investigation into 10 major league players linked to the BALCO scandal -- though Rodriguez himself has never been connected to BALCO.

The list of the 104 players whose urine samples tested positive is under seal in California. However, two sources familiar with the evidence that the government has gathered in its investigation of steroid use in baseball and two other sources with knowledge of the testing results have told Sports Illustrated that Rodriguez is one of the 104 players identified as having tested positive, in his case for testosterone and an anabolic steroid known by the brand name Primobolan. All four sources spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the evidence.

Primobolan, which is also known by the chemical name methenolone, is an injected or orally administered drug that is more expensive than most steroids. (A 12-week cycle can cost $500.) It improves strength and maintains lean muscle with minimal bulk development, according to steroid experts, and has relatively few side effects. Kirk Radomski, the former New York Mets clubhouse employee who in 2007 pleaded guilty to illegal distribution of steroids to numerous major league players, described in his recent book, Bases Loaded: The Inside Story of the Steroid Era in Baseball by the Central Figure in the Mitchell Report, how players increasingly turned to drugs such as Primobolan in 2003, in part to avoid detection in testing. Primobolan is detectable for a shorter period of time than the steroid previously favored by players, Deca-Durabolin. According to a search of FDA records, Primobolan is not an approved prescription drug in the United States, nor was it in 2003. (Testosterone can be taken legally with an appropriate medical prescription.)

Rodriguez finished the 2003 season by winning his third straight league home run title (with 47) and the first of his three MVP awards.

Because more than 5% of big leaguers had tested positive in 2003, baseball instituted a mandatory random-testing program, with penalties, in '04. According to the 2007 Mitchell Report on steroid use in baseball, in September 2004, Gene Orza, the chief operating officer of the players' union, violated an agreement with MLB by tipping off a player (not named in the report) about an upcoming, supposedly unannounced drug test. Three major league players who spoke to SI said that Rodriguez was also tipped by Orza in early September 2004 that he would be tested later that month. Rodriguez declined to respond on Thursday when asked about the warning Orza provided him.

When Orza was asked on Friday in the union's New York City office about the tipping allegations, he told a reporter, "I'm not interested in discussing this information with you."

Anticipating that the 33-year-old Rodriguez, who has 553 career home runs, could become the game's alltime home run king, the Yankees signed him in November 2007 to a 10-year, incentive-laden deal that could be worth as much as $305 million. Rodriguez is reportedly guaranteed $275 million and could receive a $6 million bonus each time he ties one of the four players at the top of the list: Willie Mays (660), Babe Ruth (714), Hank Aaron (755) and Barry Bonds (762), and an additional $6 million for passing Bonds. In order to receive the incentive money, the contract reportedly requires Rodriguez to make extra promotional appearances and sign memorabilia for the Yankees as part of a marketing plan surrounding his pursuit of Bonds's record. Two sources familiar with Rodriguez's contract told SI that there is no language about steroids in the contract that would put Rodriguez at risk of losing money.

Arguments before an 11-judge panel in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in Pasadena are ongoing between government prosecutors and the players' association over the government's seizure of the test results from the Long Beach lab. The agents who collected the material had a search warrant only for the results for the 10 BALCO-linked players. Attorneys from the union argue that the government is entitled only to the results for those players, not the entire list. If the court sides with the union, federal authorities may be barred from using the positive survey test results of non-BALCO players such as Rodriguez in their ongoing investigations.

gretzky99
Feb 7th, 2009, 11:28 AM
ARod=AFraud :rolleyes:

nfnx
Feb 7th, 2009, 11:42 AM
well i dont really have a problem with this... if it was not illegal back then then who cares.... id be more curious to see if he continued to use it following the rule

pavelbure10
Feb 7th, 2009, 11:49 AM
Afraud i-rod

shannn
Feb 7th, 2009, 12:19 PM
well i dont really have a problem with this... If it was not illegal back then then who cares.... Id be more curious to see if he continued to use it following the rule

+1

flexwong
Feb 7th, 2009, 12:25 PM
i'm not surprised if he did take roids. baseball is now as credible as posts by K_K. the only time i will be surprised and upset is if albert pujols' name gets thrown in.

ffs, gregg zaun was on steroids and he could barely hit a ball. that really pisses me off as a jays fan, if you're gonna be on roids, you might as well do it properly and start smoking the balls.

nsx
Feb 7th, 2009, 03:09 PM
well i dont really have a problem with this... if it was not illegal back then then who cares.... id be more curious to see if he continued to use it following the rule


Undetectable HGH perhaps.

snider
Feb 7th, 2009, 05:16 PM
Not surprised. The sport of baseball has lost all credibility for sometime now imo.

beetfarm
Feb 7th, 2009, 05:41 PM
A-Fraud? Personally, I like the A-Roid handle. I'm not an a fan of him or a hater, but it's still disappointing as he was supposed to be one of the few "clean" players in the MLB who would break records.

ffs, gregg zaun was on steroids and he could barely hit a ball. that really pisses me off as a jays fan, if you're gonna be on roids, you might as well do it properly and start smoking the balls.

Yeah, no kidding.

Shimso
Feb 7th, 2009, 05:55 PM
MLB = American Tour De France? :lol:

sexpuppet6000
Feb 7th, 2009, 07:28 PM
MLB = American Tour De France? :lol:

What the hell are riods going to do for you in baseball?

sfu_lifer
Feb 7th, 2009, 08:16 PM
Alex Roidriguez gets nailed.

Always knew he took it in the rear :lol:

Face it, baseball in the late 90's and 2000's records are tainted. Everyone juiced. I'm sure it's more than 105 players too if the big names were all juicing, the little guys are surely doing it too to get ahead.

We have Canseco the prophet to thank for airing baseball's dirty laundry.

Sgt_Strider
Feb 7th, 2009, 08:33 PM
I guess I was naive to think the steroids era may be coming to an end. I'm very disappointed in A-Rod. Not to mention that he's part of the Yankees (my favourite MLB team) and that just makes it worse for me. I think it's fair to say that an asterisk should be placed next to his name for any records that he set.

cheapmeister
Feb 7th, 2009, 08:47 PM
Stray-rod got the steriods from a jays trainer back in the day.

nfnx
Feb 7th, 2009, 09:36 PM
roids is one thing but really it takes skill to be able to hit the ball... hence, the zaun reference

Sgt_Strider
Feb 7th, 2009, 09:45 PM
roids is one thing but really it takes skill to be able to hit the ball... hence, the zaun reference

Absolutely, but it just meant he didn't achieve those numbers all on his own.

nfnx
Feb 7th, 2009, 10:24 PM
agree with you on that, but i bet a lot of the sluggers in the early 2000's were on roids.... the entire record book for mlb is a joke ....

Sgt_Strider
Feb 7th, 2009, 10:28 PM
agree with you on that, but i bet a lot of the sluggers in the early 2000's were on roids.... the entire record book for mlb is a joke ....

Well you know, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. We still don't know for sure that A-Rod was tested positive. Just because SI said they have sources, doesn't mean that's proven in court. He hasn't admitted to anything yet, but I admit, I do think he was using steroids given how he reacted in the story.

blexann
Feb 7th, 2009, 11:17 PM
we have know idea what Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron did to enhance their performance. Steroids and performance enhancers have been around for decades.

- I mean really who cares ? I know many fans dont - I dont

nfnx
Feb 7th, 2009, 11:24 PM
Well you know, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. We still don't know for sure that A-Rod was tested positive. Just because SI said they have sources, doesn't mean that's proven in court. He hasn't admitted to anything yet, but I admit, I do think he was using steroids given how he reacted in the story.

i actually dont care that much about the roids though... i realize the history book is tainted regardless of arod or not.

that being said, i still like arod and think hes good for the game... too bad hes become the whipping boy of the league for the past few seasons...

shannn
Feb 7th, 2009, 11:47 PM
we have know idea what Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron did to enhance their performance. Steroids and performance enhancers have been around for decades.

- I mean really who cares ? I know many fans dont - I dont

But some fans do (including the sports writers/journalists that have ballots for the hall of fame)

I wonder if this may affect his entry into the hall?

But at the end of the day, w/ the money he makes, he is richer than some countries around the world! (I remmeber seeing a report on TSN after he signed his huge contract that he was richer than more than a dozen countries, lol)...so why shoul dhe care?

thehockeyguy
Feb 7th, 2009, 11:49 PM
that sucks.. i thought a rod was the last guy that would take roids.. now i'm thinking 60% of mlb players do it

thechampion116
Feb 8th, 2009, 12:20 AM
who cares.

he won the MVP and looks like steroids were a great help but my view is pretty biased as I think in sports, winning is everything. you do what you gotta do. If that means taking steroids and being able to get away with it, then you do it.

Plus, he got caught now, so its too late to do anything about and I don't think anything should be done.

Vashin
Feb 8th, 2009, 06:58 AM
well i dont really have a problem with this... if it was not illegal back then then who cares.... id be more curious to see if he continued to use it following the rule

lol it is and was illegal, if you read the article you would notice that it was prohibited. There just wasn't any penalties implemented

nfnx
Feb 9th, 2009, 08:03 PM
lol it is and was illegal, if you read the article you would notice that it was prohibited. There just wasn't any penalties implemented

well that means its not illegal.... its like jaywalking...

regardless, hes come clean ... i hope he gets a break like petite, but he prob wont...

shannn
Feb 9th, 2009, 08:24 PM
So now it is official
He did do it (he admitted it) (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3894847)

Sgt_Strider
Feb 9th, 2009, 09:11 PM
So now it is official
He did do it (he admitted it) (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3894847)

Just finished watching it and I don't think he's really sorry. I think he's more embarassed than sorry.

Whoever believes that A-Roid doesn't know what he was taking is a fool. How can he not remember what he took? That is so stupid! I don't buy it. I think he's not disclosing it because he doesn't want people to know what the substance really enhanced in his body.


Edit: A-Roid's facial expression also gives me the impression that he's still hiding the truth. He's also denying that he didn't even know he was tested positive? Is he ****ing kidding me here? He's also trying to turn it against SI for exposing him. Lame, A-Roid is just lame. I've completely lost respect for him.

nx2k
Feb 9th, 2009, 10:02 PM
$275 MILLION!!!!
who in their right mind wouldn't take steroids knowing that it could potentially earn you that type of contract?
i would do it for less.

isn't that what life is all about? doing what you can to get ahead of everyone else, whether it be legal or illegal? moral or immoral?

kleptodathief
Feb 10th, 2009, 07:41 AM
haha i just watched on tsn...so he is AFRAUD! lulz ... course my thoughts r , they WERE ALL juiced up so it dusn't really matter...plus back then roids were NOT illegal in MLB, but only in society in general?

now i wonder if this will kill his hall of fame chance now...u know he will eventually break the HR record

rmember those years where they said the ball seem juiced up...well it was all the dam players... brady anderson doing 50/50, luis gonzalez hitting 50 hrs, now u know y!

dont forget pitchers were juicing up too ... it makes u heal faster so u can get more pitches/starts in ...ie robber clemens!

i bet eric gagne did roids!

all this issue on roids dusn't suprise me .... now lets c whos on that list

jose canseco must b laffin all the way to the bank lulz, he was one of my fave players back then...QUICKEST bat speed EVER...it was sick how fast it wuz!

sfu_lifer
Feb 10th, 2009, 12:46 PM
Anyone who looked bulked up at the time was doing it.
It's amazing how fatty ballplayers all of a sudden were sculpted. That's the steroid era. All tainted.

At least you have to give some props to A-Roid for manning up a little (although I bet he took it for longer than 03).

Vashin
Feb 10th, 2009, 02:13 PM
You guys are crazy for thinking that taking roids is ok. It's cheating plain and simple.

NDman
Feb 10th, 2009, 02:22 PM
At least you have to give some props to A-Roid for manning up a little (although I bet he took it for longer than 03).

I would hardly call it "manning up". He was caught, and exposed. What choice did he have -- Call amnesty pull a McGwire? No chance of that. If any of the 103 yet-to-be-named players who got caught is stepping up before their name is exposed, then I'd call that manning up. Otherwise, it's just damage control to save face for ARoid

Neyer's piece was a pretty good read, I thought

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3895395&name=Neyer_Rob

Shimso
Feb 10th, 2009, 04:45 PM
And now Migeul Tejada has been charged with lying to congress about steroid use:
WASHINGTON - All-star shortstop Miguel Tejada has been charged with lying to Congress about steroids, with the baseball player scheduled to appear in court Wednesday where he is expected to plead guilty.

The charges against Tejada, who currently plays for the Houston Astros, were outlined in documents filed in Washington federal court on Tuesday.

The documents indicate that a plea agreement has been reached with Tejada, who won the 2002 American League Most Valuable Player award while playing for the Oakland Athletics and is a five-time all-star.

Tejada faces as much as a year in jail if convicted on the misdemeanour charge of making misrepresentations to Congress. Under federal guidelines, he would probably receive a lighter sentence.

The charge came in a legal document called a "criminal information," which only can be filed with the defendant's consent and typically signals a plea deal. A hearing is scheduled for 11 a.m. Wednesday in Washington, and Tejada and his lawyer plan to hold a news conference later in the day in Houston.

Messages left for his lawyer, Mark Tuohey, were not immediately returned.

The documents were filed a day after superstar Alex Rodriguez acknowledged past use of performance-enhancing drugs. Rodriguez does not face charges.

The FBI also is investigating whether Roger Clemens, a seven-time Cy Young winner, lied to Congress last year when he denied using steroids or human growth hormone.

In the documents filed Tuesday, Tejada is charged with lying to investigators for the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform in 2005 when he denied knowledge of an ex-teammate's use of performance-enhancing drugs.

The teammate is not identified in court documents, but is referred to as having played with Tejada on the Athletics.

Tejada "unlawfully withheld pertinent information from the committee because defendant Tejada, before and during his interview with the committee staff, then and there well knew that player 1, one of his teammates on the Oakland Athletics, had used steroids and HGH," the papers state.

Former Rep. Tom Davis, a Virginia Republican who chaired the committee in 2005, said he believed Tejada lied.

"It just shows that when you do something illegal like this, that you pay a price," Davis said in an interview with The Associated Press.

The court papers filed by Assistant U.S. Attorney Steven Durham charge that during spring training in 2003, Tejada had purchased a substance believed to be HGH from the player, giving him payments of US$3,100 and $3,200.

In the Mitchell Report, which examined steroid use in baseball, Oakland outfielder Adam Piatt is cited saying he discussed steroid use with Tejada and having provided Tejada with testosterone and human growth hormone.

The Mitchell Report, issued in December 2007, also included copies of checks allegedly written by Tejada to Piatt in March 2003 for $3,100 and $3,200 - the same payment amounts in Tuesday's court filing.

Tejada came under scrutiny after another ex-teammate, Baltimore Orioles' Rafael Palmeiro, testified before the House committee.

In January 2008, the House panel asked the Justice Department to investigate whether Tejada lied to committee investigators when he was interviewed in connection with the Palmeiro steroids case.

When that same House panel held a hearing in March 2005, Palmeiro jabbed a finger at lawmakers and declared: "I have never used steroids, period." Palmeiro was suspended by baseball later that year after testing positive for a steroid.

The committee looked into whether Palmeiro should face perjury charges but eventually dropped the matter.

Palmeiro said his positive test must have resulted from a B-12 vitamin injection given to him by Tejada.

That prompted Congress to talk to Tejada.
http://tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=266550&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

Although I do find it idiotic that Congress has nothing better to do than go after baseball. Shouldn't they have spent that time, oh I don't know, not making that dumb bailout bill where they overspent by $78 billion; paid for corporate bonuses; allowed banks to by smaller banks instead of opening credit; and lose 200 billion?

CeoOfKFC
Feb 10th, 2009, 09:07 PM
This guy is a bigger fraud: Margarito
I hope they ship his a$$ back to Mexico with no return ticket.
All those fights with illegal wraps with his "iron" punches. Sure buddy.

"Margarito gets 1-year ban for illegal wraps"
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=AhiRvm.0kyKb.jrqHnxF4Ok5nYcB?slug=ap-margaritosuspended&prov=ap&type=lgns

Sgt_Strider
Feb 10th, 2009, 10:42 PM
And now Migeul Tejada has been charged with lying to congress about steroid use:

http://tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=266550&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

Although I do find it idiotic that Congress has nothing better to do than go after baseball. Shouldn't they have spent that time, oh I don't know, not making that dumb bailout bill where they overspent by $78 billion; paid for corporate bonuses; allowed banks to by smaller banks instead of opening credit; and lose 200 billion?

Congress is going after those baseball players for committing perjury and not taking steroids. They can't go after those execs for corporate bonuses because there's no law saying execs can't get a big bonus. If no laws are broken, then there are no lawsuits.

Shimso
Feb 10th, 2009, 11:49 PM
Congress is going after those baseball players for committing perjury and not taking steroids. They can't go after those execs for corporate bonuses because there's no law saying execs can't get a big bonus. If no laws are broken, then there are no lawsuits.

What I'm saying is that congress should've put in provisions so that executives didn't get bonuses paid for by the failing companies who received the TARP money that congress misguidedly approved. And I really think congress should be focusing on more important things than sports.

Sgt_Strider
Feb 10th, 2009, 11:53 PM
What I'm saying is that congress should've put in provisions so that executives didn't get bonuses paid for by the failing companies who received the TARP money that congress misguidedly approved. And I really think congress should be focusing on more important things than sports.

The US government have an army of lawyers so I'm not too concerned about this.