Infiniti G37

[Bidou78]

I was wondering if my fellow RFDers can help me out. From my previous post you'd see that I've been in the market for a new car now for some time. A3, Altima, IS 250 to name a few. I'm in no rush as I have no monthly car payment, which is nice, so I've been waiting for the economy to tank and see what incentives will be offered. I mentioned in the past that the IS 250 was a possibility (the price drop was bonus) but after trying to install a rear facing seat, forget that!

A fellow RFD member provided me with a quote for a G35 which was great but I don't know how much of that relates to the G37. I've used CCC before so please try to keep the flaming to a minimum, basically looking for a good critique on the price I've gotten and maybe folks could weigh in if they have any experience with or have purchased this particular car - pros vs con kinda thing. ;)

I was able to get 2k off the $37,990 and have 10k down. OTD monthly payments of $528. This seems like a pretty good starting point and I think I may go for it. I'm in no rush and I really do hate the thought of buying a vehicle at the end of winter and on the cusp of spring with it's lovely potholes and paint chipping road debris.

[Nyte]

If you're looking at the G37, you might also want to consider the IS350. They're at roughly the same price point.

[Bidou78]

The 350 has the same dimensions as the 250, so it leaves me with the same problem with the lack of space.

[golden]

IS350 is more expensive as optional packages are $$$. G37 comes in pretty loaded in features.

[Drew_W]

G37 is the way to go. If I had more patience and would have been a few inches shorter, I would have totally waited and pulled the trigger on one since I knew the 330hp and 7AT were coming in 09. Nevertheless, my ES350 is still fast enough, and cushy enough to make rush hour traffic less of a pain in the arse.

Oh, and its comfort combined with ridiculous highway mileage (I did Pittsburgh to Toronto and averaged 6.5L/100km doing 115km/h the entire way in the Summer...with AC on) make it a great car for road trips.

[Nyte]

IS350 is more expensive as optional packages are $$$. G37 comes in pretty loaded in features.

I think it depends on what you want. I'm considering both cars myself and with the options I wanted, they both come out very close.

[zivan56]

Have a look at the Lexus GS 350 instead of the IS 350...the IS 250 is their entry level car, and the IS 350 just has a better engine pretty much (ok, it has a couple of other things included).
However, I would have the agree with the G37 being the better deal today, as it is newer. The GS and the IS are are all from 2006 model year.

[thephenom]

Hyundai Genesis? At least go for a test drive if you're shopping for a car in the same price bracket. :D

[mr_raider]

Hyundai Genesis? At least go for a test drive if you're shopping for a car in the same price bracket. :D

I hear it's hella fast!

Don't be impressed by the new engine in the g37. It may have more horses, but the cars has gained more pounds this year. If you can track down a cheap g35 '08, that would be an incredible bargain.

[Bidou78]

Thanks for the replies guys... Keep 'em coming!

The ES is a little too large and cushy, I'm about to be a first time dad but still want something fun..

What do you think of the price? Does the price sound good?

[mr_raider]

Carcost that thing. If you got 2000$ off with no effort, I bet there is a hidden incentive on the car, and you could do better.

[stealth]

also looking at the same car, but prob going to wait until a super hot deal comes by, or at least winter ends. I wish they had the incentives that the domestics are offerring.
Keep us post of any hot deals, or maybe even a group buy!

[Nyte]

Have a look at the Lexus GS 350 instead of the IS 350...the IS 250 is their entry level car, and the IS 350 just has a better engine pretty much (ok, it has a couple of other things included).
However, I would have the agree with the G37 being the better deal today, as it is newer. The GS and the IS are are all from 2006 model year.

They're aimed at different markets. It all depends on what you value more.

[zivan56]

Well the IS is definitely below the G37...the GS is in the same segment and the same price range. Plus, the GS has plenty of room in it (including the back)...haven't seen how the G37 is yet.

[jindogae]

I don't understand those that have suggested the gs 350. That car is at least 14k more expensive and is significantly more once you compare options. The genesis is nice but you'll probably get a better deal if you were to wait about 4 mnths.
I think the g37 is a nice option. It drives nice, has room, and looks good both inside and out. I think for 35k it's probably one of the best values in the segment.

[zivan56]

^^ The op wanted an IS but said it lacked room...logical conclusion is a GS?
Looking at a G37 with tech package/sport package, you get the same thing in a GS 350 base (minus nav) with only a 2k difference. As I said, the G37 is the best value, but the IS 350 is the same car as the IS 250 (with a bigger engine)...and it is not even in the same class as a G37.

[hassan123]

Thanks for the replies guys... Keep 'em coming!

The ES is a little too large and cushy, I'm about to be a first time dad but still want something fun..

What do you think of the price? Does the price sound good?

get an evo ;)

[2k1jdm]

How about the Acura Tl? I hear Infiniti resales are not too great compared to their acura, lexus counterparts. But I will say the G37 is a really nice car.

[simplylgg]

G37 is the best car for the money in its class. If you are worried about winter driving get the G37x. I really like the design. You can also find lots of good info from below site which is the nissan/infiniti enthusiast forum:
www.freshalloy.com

[jindogae]

^^ The op wanted an IS but said it lacked room...logical conclusion is a GS?
Looking at a G37 with tech package/sport package, you get the same thing in a GS 350 base (minus nav) with only a 2k difference. As I said, the G37 is the best value, but the IS 350 is the same car as the IS 250 (with a bigger engine)...and it is not even in the same class as a G37.

The OP was looking at a base g37 (35k) but you suggest the gs 350 (50+k) because it has more room? Wouldn't a more logical suggestion be an ES?

[Bidou78]

The GS is a little too mature for my liking. I'm in my 30's so a sports sedan while having the ability to haul a child/wife around safely is ideal. The horsepower is pretty nice but it's a beefy car as well so it's expected that I won't be beating EVO's and STI's off the line or anything....not what I need it for anyway.

The Genesis seems pretty nice but it is very new and I'm still a little worried about the Hyundai brand. :confused: The Acura's are a little more expensive and the incentives are still not there to put it in my budget plus I really never liked the styling. Originally the choice was to be between the IS250 and Altima 3.5 SE, both were in the low 30's OTR.

I've never owned a RWD car before so it's kinda exciting in that sense. I realize that there is no real debate on which is better/safer (awd vs rwd) but concensus says that a rwd can be a little more fun, I guess it's cause you can throw it around a little more. Yet again, this will not be it's primary application but who knows if I'll take it around a track sometime.:cheesygri Ironically the dealer wanted to offer me the AWD G37 for the sticker price of the RWD G37 ($37,980) because he only had awd on the lot.

I will take Raider's suggestion on CCC'ing it but I'll only be ready to buy in 6 weeks. So until then I'll keep on asking opinions and do research in hopes that I won't find some gremlin that would turn me off about the car such as the high rate of fuel comsumption of the G35.

[Drew_W]

If you've ever driven the IS250, it's not a sports sedan. It's a brick with four wheels with a crippled aging mule pulling it.

[Drew_W]

I will take Raider's suggestion on CCC'ing it but I'll only be ready to buy in 6 weeks. So until then I'll keep on asking opinions and do research in hopes that I won't find some gremlin that would turn me off about the car such as the high rate of fuel comsumption of the G35.

G37x 11.8/7.8

G37 11.7/7.6

IS350 10.9/7.8

IS250 9.8/6.8

IS250AWD 10.5/7.6

I fail to see your point. None of these really are "high rate of fuel consumption". The G37 improved rather markedly on the fuel economy of the G35.

[Asad_A203]

335i?

[Asad_A203]

get an evo ;)

He would first have to cut out his eyes and rub his hands with sandpaper to be able to enjoy the classy Evo interior :lol:; jk.

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Some more reading/info on the G37 if you are interested:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=428345

[Drew_W]

335i?

Why stop there? M3 FTW, although I think it's a little early for a mid-life crisis car.

[mr_raider]

I've never owned a RWD car before so it's kinda exciting in that sense. I realize that there is no real debate on which is better/safer (awd vs rwd) but concensus says that a rwd can be a little more fun, I guess it's cause you can throw it around a little more. Yet again, this will not be it's primary application but who knows if I'll take it around a track sometime.:cheesygri Ironically the dealer wanted to offer me the AWD G37 for the sticker price of the RWD G37 ($37,980) because he only had awd on the lot.

The g35x/g37x is heavily RWD biased. It's fairly easy to break the back end free, since it does have monster engine. If you get a deal on the g37x, go for it.

[Emancipated]

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[ml_luv]

My boyfriend was in the market for a G37 coupe a little while ago and he was going to trade in his G35 so the sales guy that sold me my altima would call me on updates for deals on the G37. I know not to long ago they brought in 3 demos with very low kms and he was able to knock off like 7or 8k from the msrp... so if you want his contact info pm me i'm sure he can help you out!

[CeoOfKFC]

The last thing our economy needs are cars like these that people cannot afford and will end up defaulting on their financing.

[Brandon]

The last thing our economy needs are cars like these that people cannot afford and will end up defaulting on their financing.

Fried chicken not selling like it used to?

[ml_luv]

Fried chicken not selling like it used to?

I had to LOL on that one..

[ichpen]

The G37 is a fine car. I've driven it a few times. Coming from a G35C I can tell you the 37 has gone pretty soft and bloated. The 37 does not feel as nimble as the old 3.5VQ variant. Nonetheless I don't think you can touch it in it's price range.

[Efx]

Fried chicken not selling like it used to?

LOL

Not EVERYONE is losing jobs today... Some even post profits =)

[Bidou78]

The last thing our economy needs are cars like these that people cannot afford and will end up defaulting on their financing.

Normally I wouldn't respond to a statement such as this but since I started this thread, it kinda feels like your statement is directed at me so I'll take the time to respond.

If you read the post you'd see that I have 10k down. There's also an incentive of $2,500 from Infiniti Canada until March. Let's say that wholesale will reduce it to a conservative $1,500 off retail - removing a total of $14,000 off of the $39,815 pdi/incl sticker.

$25,815 for a G37 instead of a Mazda 3 or Civic (great cars btw), I'll take that and I'm sure I wouldn't be alone. Not to say that given the choice everyone would choose the G37 over the others. Some might have concerns about the fuel consumtion, carbon footprint, etc.....so it's not for everybody.

If I do default on the financing and get my car repo'd, maybe as the CEO of KFC you can then afford a G37 of your own, at a good price to boot! ;)

[newbieparadise]

Normally I wouldn't respond to a statement such as this but since I started this thread, it kinda feels like your statement is directed at me so I'll take the time to respond.

If you read the post you'd see that I have 10k down. There's also an incentive of $2,500 from Infiniti Canada until March. Let's say that wholesale will reduce it to a conservative $1,500 off retail - removing a total of $14,000 off of the $39,815 pdi/incl sticker.

$25,815 for a G37 instead of a Mazda 3 or Civic (great cars btw), I'll take that and I'm sure I wouldn't be alone. Not to say that given the choice everyone would choose the G37 over the others. Some might have concerns about the fuel consumtion, carbon footprint, etc.....so it's not for everybody.

If I do default on the financing and get my car repo'd, maybe as the CEO of KFC you can then afford a G37 of your own, at a good price to boot! ;)

where are you getting your prices? isnt the G37 base 45k all in on the website?

[Drew_W]

$25,815 for a G37 instead of a Mazda 3 or Civic (great cars btw),

You're putting $10k down, so it's not $25k for a G37.

[Bidou78]

I don't pay any tax, so it really makes a difference in the price but why I don't is irrelevant. The only thing I haven't factored in is the admin, tire and ac tax, I will try to get those waived but if I can't it's only a few hundred.

So with my considerable down payment, it places the financing in the entry level vehicle category so it's like financing a civic or mazda 3.

I realize that the price of a G37 isn't 25k, I was merely pointing out to KFC that with my down payment, it makes the purchase very affordable. She/He showed some concern and mentioned that people shouldn't buy cars they can't afford, which I agree with as it may cause financial stress for them down the road. I don't think I'm over extending myself in this regard at all.

[channy]

I would recommend the AWD G37, I have a RWD G37 and even with good winter tires it is quite possibly the worst handling car I have driven in snowy conditions.

[Emancipated]

I would recommend the AWD G37, I have a RWD G37 and even with good winter tires it is quite possibly the worst handling car I have driven in snowy conditions.

Reminds me of a Caddy CTS stuck on a incline last winter. I drove past him and I find some 50 years old guy who looks pretty clueless and you just know he's not even sure his car is RWD vs FWD.

[Drew_W]

I don't pay any tax, so it really makes a difference in the price but why I don't is irrelevant. The only thing I haven't factored in is the admin, tire and ac tax, I will try to get those waived but if I can't it's only a few hundred.

So with my considerable down payment, it places the financing in the entry level vehicle category so it's like financing a civic or mazda 3.

I realize that the price of a G37 isn't 25k, I was merely pointing out to KFC that with my down payment, it makes the purchase very affordable. She/He showed some concern and mentioned that people shouldn't buy cars they can't afford, which I agree with as it may cause financial stress for them down the road. I don't think I'm over extending myself in this regard at all.

If you don't mind my asking, why DON'T you pay tax?

I think that what you mean to say is that after your downpayment, your PAYMENTS are in the range of a Civic, but your total financing cost isn't really close.

Also, with lending rates rather low right now, it may be cheaper for you to pay cash, take an additional cash incentive, and arrange your own financing. Crack open the Excel and do some calculations. For me, leasing (and then buying out) was cheaper than financing. Plus the lease gives me additional flexibility, and payments that are half what the financing ones were going to be. Absolute no brainer, but it isn't an intuitive way of financing a car.

[Drew_W]

Reminds me of a Caddy CTS stuck on a incline last winter. I drove past him and I find some 50 years old guy who looks pretty clueless and you just know he's not even sure his car is RWD vs FWD.

A guy with a RWD Mercedes was stuck on a relatively FLAT part of Sheppard between Leslie and Don Mills. Comical. All the cash for a Benz and you don't buy into 4MATIC, nor a set of winter tires. Congrats, everyone passing you thinks you're a ******. :)

[Asad_A203]

A guy with a RWD Mercedes was stuck on a relatively FLAT part of Sheppard between Leslie and Don Mills. Comical. All the cash for a Benz and you don't buy into 4MATIC, nor a set of winter tires. Congrats, everyone passing you thinks you're a ******. :)

My G made it fine yesterday. To give you Ontarioians (is that what you guys are called?); here is how slippery it was yesterday:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090210.wwinnipeg11/BNStory/National/home

Skating on the highway!


Anyways my car was fine up until I came home. I slid past my driveway; had to make 3 slow drives to get it stop near my driveway. Then another 30-45 mins (with alot of sand, cardboard) to get it up the driveway. I ended up throwing sand all over my neighbors snow banks; RWD FTW!

[Asad_A203]

I would recommend the AWD G37, I have a RWD G37 and even with good winter tires it is quite possibly the worst handling car I have driven in snowy conditions.

Thats what makes it fun :cheesygri.

[Emancipated]

My G made it fine yesterday. To give you Ontarioians (is that what you guys are called?); here is how slippery it was yesterday:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090210.wwinnipeg11/BNStory/National/home

Skating on the highway!


Anyways my car was fine up until I came home. I slid past my driveway; had to make 3 slow drives to get it stop near my driveway. Then another 30-45 mins (with alot of sand, cardboard) to get it up the driveway. I ended up throwing sand all over my neighbors snow banks; RWD FTW!


Holyshit. I've been in Canada all my life and I can honestly say I've never seen that before. It's like instead of salting the roads, the government simply gives everyone a pair of skates.

BAD. ASS.

[vINCe_Inc]

g37 ftw.
except in winter, i slip and slide everywhereeeee., even with winters.!
.
genesis coupe is nice for people that can put their pride aside and drive it, it is quite a competitor to the G, except that its not as refined and classy looking. its more raw, more modable, everything a boi-racer would love.
.
on the other hand, a G will no doubt impress the ladies. and still do all of the above very well.
.

[CaptSmethwick]

Last October, I weighed the G37x against the CTS-4 and also briefly considered the 535xi and the A-6. Nothing else had the combination of luxury, performance, comfort, and features. IS350 was too small and, as nice as it is, the ES350 just doesn't have the performance characteristics to hang in this crowd.

Similarly equipped, it was a wash between the G37x and the CTS-4 in terms of price and pros/cons. The Audi and BMW were just more than I wanted to pay right now and the slight improvement in refinement didn't justify the price bulge. It came down to personal preference between the Infiniti and the Caddy and I'm happy with my choice. It's my third Cadillac and I haven't read a Consumer Reports issue in years, so I don't fear the phantom unreliability...

With AWD and X-IceXi2s on winter rims, the CTS is simply amazing in the snow - but it's not as quick as the G37 and if that had been my primary consideration, I'd be driving one now.

[jimb]

It looks like a great car; im sure you will enjoy it.

one thing though (just of curiosity), seeing as you and others brought the financing issue up. do you happen to have a mortgage on your house as well?

just trying guage exactly what you mean by affordability. north american affordabity is very different than other places in the world.

[Bidou78]

Fella's, thanks for the input on the winter driving characteristics of the RWD G37, will consider the AWD if the price is right. Here are the answers for the questions.

Drew, you are exactly right. The finance numbers don't match up to that of a Civic or Mazda 3. It was merely an example (a bad one a that) to display that after all of the incentives, my down payment and a fair profit for the dealer courtesy of a CCC report, the final price of the G37 was in the mid 20k range....the price of a nicely equipped civic or mazda 3. I took it personal when a previous poster insinuated that I couldn't afford this car without knowing any additional info about my situation so I had to enlighten him a bit. My final point on this matter is most working couples can afford financing on a vehicle priced from 20k-25k. With my down payment, I would require a financial institution to approve me for $25,000 to which I see no problem.

My wife and I have a very modest mortgage because we got a bit of a break on the house - the previous owners were her parents. So this is where the affordability thing applies.

The reason why I'm not paying any RST or GST on the vehicle is because I am a North American Status Native and it will be delivered to my Reservation. Goods delivered to a Reservation are not subjected to the usual tax regulations. It is a right, so sometimes I exercise it. To be crystal clear though, I do pay all taxes once I'm off the reservation. Since I reside off the Reserve, I pay income tax, property tax, GST, PST/RST and all other taxes like most Canadians.

LSS, with all of these variables coupled together it makes the G37 a very affordable vehicle in my situation but also affordable was the Altima, IS 250 and the A3.

[mr_raider]

It's a damn good car, in RWD and AWD form. If you are looking at this vehicle, chances are you can afford it, and the price of gas that it guzzles. Of course, if live on a reserve, you get that cheap too :cheesygri

Do Original Indians (the Asian kind) also get a tax break? :D