View Full Version : No 5.1Sound in Winamp with Vista!
nfuz
Jan 31st, 2009, 01:05 PM
So I understand that mp3s are in 2.0, but to make use of my speakers, I was using this plug in Winamp for like 6 years without a problem....
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8596/winampconfigrx1.jpg
With the settings listed above, it basically pusehs the same sound through 2 of those other speakers as "rear left" and "rear right" are useless...
Now I've been using vista 64bit, and playing with this plugin for the last 2 hours and I keep getting this error...
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9692/erroray8.jpg
never happened in XP...
Any idea how to fix it?
I'm using the latest Winamp version:
Winamp.Pro.v5.54.1
I couldn't find what to change in Input as I never had to, but I messed around with all 4 of the Output plugins with no luck...
If people with Vista have another plugin to support 5.1 in winamp, I'm not too attached to this one, so whatever suggestions that will work...toss em on!
I also checked google by quoting the error, found lots of people with the same prob..... but no solution yet :( Also, they don't evne mention Vista!
Thanks!!
Also: My 5.1 sound is working in the driver's test, in mpc-hc, and in powerdvd... so its definately a winamp/plugin problem!
Calmuser
Jan 31st, 2009, 01:43 PM
hrmm what sound card do you have?
I have 5.1 sound working in vista with my creative extreme music with its
CMSS-3D feature.
works with winamp and other media players.
nfuz
Jan 31st, 2009, 02:30 PM
Using the onboard Realtek audio as found on my gigabyte ex-58-ud5 motherboard
nfuz
Feb 1st, 2009, 12:39 AM
So is this yet another problem with this garbage gigabyte board being unable to duplicate 1 channel sound onto another channel that my 4 year old Asus motherboard could do?
No replies.... does this mean everyone has winamp working with their 5.1+ speakers?
Do people not listen to mp3s in 5.1 sound, and only use their 2 channel? ......
matkun
Feb 1st, 2009, 09:44 AM
You should probably update that 6 year old addon and see if there's a Vista compatible version.. Vista changed the sound system in windows a great deal.
stormy13
Feb 1st, 2009, 11:27 AM
A couple of plugins to try,
http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details/183408
and,
http://files.filefront.com/winamp+atsurround+016rar/;8546961;/fileinfo.html
the second on the author's site (AndrewLabs) is done at the moment, but the last I saw on it was that he is working on a new version to work better with Vista.
df329
Feb 1st, 2009, 11:53 AM
you should just use 2 speakers for music :!:
omeo
Feb 1st, 2009, 12:18 PM
you should just use 2 speakers for music :!:
+1
nfuz
Feb 1st, 2009, 12:48 PM
A couple of plugins to try,
http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details/183408
Garbage
http://files.filefront.com/winamp+atsurround+016rar/;8546961;/fileinfo.html
the second on the author's site (AndrewLabs) is done at the moment, but the last I saw on it was that he is working on a new version to work better with Vista.
That is much better, but I'm looking for 1 where I can set the back speakers as my front speakers
:(
nfuz
Feb 1st, 2009, 12:49 PM
You should probably update that 6 year old addon and see if there's a Vista compatible version.. Vista changed the sound system in windows a great deal.
....
I've obviously tried that along with all the plugins on winamp
nfuz
Feb 4th, 2009, 09:07 PM
bump!
I cant beleive beling with 5.1 systems just let 3 of their speakers sit ILDLY..
Come on... someone out there must have this working properly..
nfuz
Feb 4th, 2009, 09:08 PM
the second on the author's site (AndrewLabs) is done at the moment
AndrewLabs website doesn't even exist...
So I'll assume a version for vista isn't on the way.
balance
Feb 4th, 2009, 10:25 PM
j/w what speakers u got there?
Oversized Rooster
Feb 4th, 2009, 10:47 PM
It's a far better idea to buy a decent sound card to begin with and stop using the HORRIBLE onboard sound.
Get a Prelude X-Fi and use DTS:Neo. That will create surround sound out of any source regardless of what program is making the sound. Hardware level upmixing always beats software upmixing through a questionable plug-in.
UberN00b
Feb 4th, 2009, 11:40 PM
onboard = fail.
anyways, try updating to the newest bios / drivers for your onboard audio.
hi-tech
Feb 5th, 2009, 02:22 AM
I took me years to figure out how to get 5.1 with vista. Basically, for me, I went to realtek's website, downloaded the realtek manager, checked "speaker fill" and reset my 5500's to Dolby Direct Music.
nfuz
Feb 5th, 2009, 11:17 AM
j/w what speakers u got there?
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/home_pc_speakers/devices/211&cl=roeu,en
nfuz
Feb 5th, 2009, 11:24 AM
It's a far better idea to buy a decent sound card to begin with and stop using the HORRIBLE onboard sound.
Get a Prelude X-Fi and use DTS:Neo. That will create surround sound out of any source regardless of what program is making the sound. Hardware level upmixing always beats software upmixing through a questionable plug-in.
I don't really have extra cash to spend, the sound card is always something I cheap out on, and for most of my needs, the onboard always provides what I need...
But it shouldnt be a soundcard issue, I'm not trying to get the Full 5.1 from a 2.0 source, Im just trying to emulate that source into my other speakers, my 4 year old comp did it, my 9 year old dell did it, there's no reason my 1month old new comp shouldnt do it.
nfuz
Feb 5th, 2009, 11:36 AM
I took me years to figure out how to get 5.1 with vista. Basically, for me, I went to realtek's website, downloaded the realtek manager, checked "speaker fill" and reset my 5500's to Dolby Direct Music.
I cant find the Audio Manager on their site... I already have their RealTek HD Audio Manager that came with the motherboard though.
THe "speaker fill" is exactly what Im looking for, but cant find this option in the realtek audio panel, I heard its in Vista's sound options under enhancements....... but I dont see it there either. Could you provide a screenshot as to where I should be looking for this option?
Im downloading their latest vista driver from their stie atm.. at 3.5KB/sec ...... so I guess when I get the file in a few hours It'll hopefully let me check the damn speaker fill box.
Also, I assume that this will only effect my audio which has 2.0 right? Obviously I dont want to "speaker fill" on movies which actually have 5.1 audio....
hi-tech
Feb 5th, 2009, 11:56 AM
I cant find the Audio Manager on their site... I already have their RealTek HD Audio Manager that came with the motherboard though.
THe "speaker fill" is exactly what Im looking for, but cant find this option in the realtek audio panel, I heard its in Vista's sound options under enhancements....... but I dont see it there either. Could you provide a screenshot as to where I should be looking for this option?
Im downloading their latest vista driver from their stie atm.. at 3.5KB/sec ...... so I guess when I get the file in a few hours It'll hopefully let me check the damn speaker fill box.
Also, I assume that this will only effect my audio which has 2.0 right? Obviously I dont want to "speaker fill" on movies which actually have 5.1 audio....
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6605/realtekfg2.jpg
Yep, it only affects 2.0. When I play dvdrips or BrRips then it just turns it self off.
If you are unable to see the speaker fill option, read the link below
http://www.vistax64.com/sound-audio/64250-new-realtek-hd-audio-driver-update-9.html
nfuz
Feb 5th, 2009, 01:03 PM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6605/realtekfg2.jpg
Yep, it only affects 2.0. When I play dvdrips or BrRips then it just turns it self off.
If you are unable to see the speaker fill option, read the link below
http://www.vistax64.com/sound-audio/64250-new-realtek-hd-audio-driver-update-9.html
I updated my driver to the latest R214 (Jan9 release).
Yeah I knew I wasn't blind...
I don't have that speaker fill option thats on your screen....
So I guess this is YET ANOTHER ****up on this pos gigabyte board... I knew I should have stuck with asus.. anyways uninstalling the software and will install only the realtek one this time in hopes that it fixes it...
nfuz
Feb 5th, 2009, 01:42 PM
Read the thread... looks like that guy was having the exact problem almost a year back.
Anyways, uninstalled it, and reinstalled it 3-4x from the realtek site... and it always shows me the gigabyte logo and no speakerfill (just like that guy).
I'd even go and format, but... he already tried that and had no luck... so not going to waste time on that...
What board do you have?
Also, another same prob as him that I'm having is I can't set my other 2 speakers as REAR speakers, (well I can), but in the 5.1 setup it only lets me click the SIDE SPEAKER box. I noticed u are using 5.1 with REAR speakers, but both me and the guy in your link, can only enable SIDE speakes in 5.1... so when we plug em in, and the box pops, what do we have plugged in, if we choose REAR< we get no sound, if we choose SIDE.... well we get sound, but still no speaker fill...
what a frustating problem with these garbage motherboards, cant believe how much time I've spent. This is a brand new motherboard too, not over a year old like whatever that guy was using........
Any other ideas?
nfuz
Feb 5th, 2009, 01:45 PM
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6754/gigabytejunkds5.jpg
hi-tech
Feb 7th, 2009, 12:36 PM
Maybe try an optical connection instead?
nfuz
Feb 8th, 2009, 07:32 PM
my speakers aren't digital...
liquidimpulse
Feb 8th, 2009, 08:07 PM
oh god, when u find out let me know. Ever since a couple of years ago when i reformmated, i lost the ability to play my music or anything with the exact same set of speakers, although I'm stuck with a eVGA using realtek onboard. I gave up a while ago and my speakers are collecting dust.
board123
Feb 8th, 2009, 08:47 PM
AndrewLabs plugin works fine. I use it right now on Vista x64.
nfuz
Feb 8th, 2009, 09:39 PM
AndrewLabs plugin works fine. I use it right now on Vista x64.
depends what your definition of fine is...
it "works" in the sense that all 5 of my speakers have audio in it...
but the audio in the center/ 2 rear speakers is very very distorted, and i'm not looking for an "emulated 5.1"....
I basically want Stereo music... but from 4 of my 5 speakers...
left+rear left pump the left audio
right+rear right pump the right audio
if youve got your andrewlabs codec to accomplish this, i'd love details on how you managed to set it up?
i'd also like to bring people's attention again to this error that I posted in my original post..
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9692/erroray8.jpg
Maybe if someone can help fix that input/output I can get what i want from winamp? But I have no clue where to start or what to do there... its always just been plug and play for me :(
board123
Feb 8th, 2009, 11:57 PM
depends what your definition of fine is...
it "works" in the sense that all 5 of my speakers have audio in it...
but the audio in the center/ 2 rear speakers is very very distorted, and i'm not looking for an "emulated 5.1"....
I basically want Stereo music... but from 4 of my 5 speakers...
It emulates surround sound, so there is definitely distortion in each of the output channels.
Another plugin that seems to do what you want is the Wumpus OpenAL output. I'm pretty sure it comes with Winamp and has an option for expanding stereo to 4.0. There's not as much distortion for vocal filtering.
nfuz
Feb 11th, 2009, 09:05 PM
It emulates surround sound, so there is definitely distortion in each of the output channels.
Another plugin that seems to do what you want is the Wumpus OpenAL output. I'm pretty sure it comes with Winamp and has an option for expanding stereo to 4.0. There's not as much distortion for vocal filtering.
I think I tried Wumpus for a brief few minutes, and I couldn't get it to work? Not sure, going from memory here... will try it again on the weekend.
nfuz
Feb 11th, 2009, 09:08 PM
Update: I wrote a long detailed support ticket to gigabyte on the 8th, referencing the sources, the diff screenshots, etc etc...
3 days... no reply, and my ticket still has "Your ticket will be processed" picture, not BEING processed, but WILL BE processed...
Great gigabyte customer service...
Never buying these junk boards again... Cant believe my 4 year old comp had this feature but my brand new one doesnt!
talktwo
Feb 11th, 2009, 10:45 PM
Don't know if this will work, maybe not. Try changing the default audio playback format? Start>Control Panel>Sound. Try different formats like 48,000Hz or what have you.
I had recently installed Windows Vista x64 on my main computer thinking that I'd finally make the transition. Anyways, my experience was SO BAD I reinstalled Windows XP in a day. The way that Vista handled sound was unacceptable to me. I have a HT Omega Claro sound card, and I couldn't adjust the speaker volumes individually. Also, game sounds weren't being processed correctly. It very well may have been poor drivers from HT Omega, but in any case, I'm more than happy now back with XP.
Let me know how it goes with the format change.
nfuz
Feb 12th, 2009, 04:45 PM
I'll try that on the weekend...
But in other news... got a reply from gigabyte, they answered my very long, detailed 2 page post with 1 ****ing line...
It asked: "What type of speakers you are using and which utility you are using to playing audio?"
Even though I mentioned Winamp about 50x in that post...
4 DAYS to reply to me with that worthless 1 line, and they have the audacity to call this "SUPPORT"......
STAY AWAY FROM GIGABYTE PEOPLE!
nfuz
Feb 13th, 2009, 07:51 PM
These clowns replied back when I yet again told them WINAMP, and emphasized the 2 different screenshots...
Their response
Due to licensing purpose it will not have the Realtek log on the utility
.......
Can't believe they're choosing to focus on the LOGO rather than the stripped off options on this board!!