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scouzer
Aug 18th, 2009, 02:34 AM
thats a rip; think about it; car invoice is usually 3-4k less than MSRP

Not true in the slightest. No car below $35k has a spread of $3k between invoice and MSRP!!!

chenwaa123
Aug 18th, 2009, 11:05 AM
What month do they usually bump up incentives to clear out the current model year?

If you look back at the first post its from January, so I'd say about then. Just remember that a deal would need to be done on a cash basis, or at a high interest rate, which would kill the deal.

CanadianDesi
Aug 18th, 2009, 11:08 PM
Did anyone buy Honda Civic DX-G 4 Door Automatic Sedan recently i,e, Aug 2009. I am in the market and am not sure where to start negotiating.

Thanks for your help.

rinottawa
Aug 19th, 2009, 04:54 AM
Hi, there,

I have just signed the contract to buy a Honda Accord Sedan EX-V6:

MSRP: $32090.00
Dealer Discount: $2200.00
Total Sale Price: $29600.00

Freight: $1550.00
Federal Air Conditioner Tax: $100.00
Tax for Fuel Consumption: $75.00
OMVIC FEE: $5.00

Extended Warranty: $1448.00
Rust Protection: $599.00

TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE: $33667.00

PST: $2693.78
GST: $1683.35

TOTAL PERCHASE PRICE: $38044.13
REBATE: $1000.00

FINAL PRICE: $37044.13

Do you guys think it is a fair price?

Any comments are appreciated.

boomiec
Aug 19th, 2009, 08:28 AM
Hi, there,

I have just signed the contract to buy a Honda Accord Sedan EX-V6:

MSRP: $32090.00
Dealer Discount: $2200.00
Total Sale Price: $29600.00

Freight: $1550.00
Federal Air Conditioner Tax: $100.00
Tax for Fuel Consumption: $75.00
OMVIC FEE: $5.00

Extended Warranty: $1448.00
Rust Protection: $599.00

TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE: $33667.00

PST: $2693.78
GST: $1683.35

TOTAL PERCHASE PRICE: $38044.13
REBATE: $1000.00

FINAL PRICE: $37044.13

Do you guys think it is a fair price?

Any comments are appreciated.

what is the dealer discount??? did you negotiate this or did they just "discount " it for you.

as for rust proofing i would not do the dealer one and do the krowne rust proofing. imo - better quality and cheaper. plus the extended warranty, i wouldnt bother because of the outstanding honda quality already built in but again.......just my humble opinion. fyi, ive owned 4 hondas since 1986. i only buy hondas new and i dont really want to start changing now. so im a big fan of them.

boomiec
Aug 19th, 2009, 08:29 AM
Hi, there,

I have just signed the contract to buy a Honda Accord Sedan EX-V6:

MSRP: $32090.00
Dealer Discount: $2200.00
Total Sale Price: $29600.00

Freight: $1550.00
Federal Air Conditioner Tax: $100.00
Tax for Fuel Consumption: $75.00
OMVIC FEE: $5.00

Extended Warranty: $1448.00
Rust Protection: $599.00

TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE: $33667.00

PST: $2693.78
GST: $1683.35

TOTAL PERCHASE PRICE: $38044.13
REBATE: $1000.00

FINAL PRICE: $37044.13

Do you guys think it is a fair price?

Any comments are appreciated.

plus why not wait till the 2010s come out in 1 or two months?

rinottawa
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:06 AM
what is the dealer discount??? did you negotiate this or did they just "discount " it for you.

as for rust proofing i would not do the dealer one and do the krowne rust proofing. imo - better quality and cheaper. plus the extended warranty, i wouldnt bother because of the outstanding honda quality already built in but again.......just my humble opinion. fyi, ive owned 4 hondas since 1986. i only buy hondas new and i dont really want to start changing now. so im a big fan of them.

Thank you boomiec.

The "dealer discount" is just an item listed on the "Vehicle Prechase Agreement", I don't know what is it's meanings. For the rust protection, they told me that if I do the rust proofing myself, it may void the manufacture varranty.

I also bought the CCC report:

2009 Honda Accord Sedan 4dr V6 Auto EX
Retail Price: $32,090.00
Wholesale Price: $29,683.00

So the price ($29890) the dealer gave me is only $207 more than the wholesale price ($29683). Am I missed sth? Do you think it is a good deal? Thanks!

rinottawa
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:14 AM
plus why not wait till the 2010s come out in 1 or two months?

I had an accident a week ago.....I can not wait for one or two months because it is not convenient for me to go to work by bus.

johnsa
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:34 AM
Hi, there,

I have just signed the contract to buy a Honda Accord Sedan EX-V6:

MSRP: $32090.00
Dealer Discount: $2200.00
Total Sale Price: $29600.00

Freight: $1550.00
Federal Air Conditioner Tax: $100.00
Tax for Fuel Consumption: $75.00
OMVIC FEE: $5.00

Extended Warranty: $1448.00
Rust Protection: $599.00

TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE: $33667.00

PST: $2693.78
GST: $1683.35

TOTAL PERCHASE PRICE: $38044.13
REBATE: $1000.00

FINAL PRICE: $37044.13

Do you guys think it is a fair price?

Any comments are appreciated.


OMG! over $2200 (with tax) for rust proofing and warranty) that dealer made a decent profit on that deal!:(

rinottawa
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:41 AM
OMG! over $2200 (with tax) for rust proofing and warranty) that dealer made a decent profit on that deal!:(

The rust proofing and extended warranty were sold to me by the lady who doing the paper work at the last minute, not the sale representative.:evil:

xi_32
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:42 AM
+1 on what boomiec said

just say NO to the Rustproofing. Get it done by a professional shop like Krown Rust Control.

just say NO to the extended warranty. All vehicles have 7-8 year 160,000km 'hidden' powertrain warranties. So you're covered there. (search for Lemon Aid guide on the internet for more info) Also, this is a HONDA. If anything should break $1400 should easily cover most repairs.

it would probably cost the dealer $100 for the rust-proofing ($500 profit for him) and $500 for the extended warranty so ($1000) profit for him there.

rinottawa
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:52 AM
+1 on what boomiec said

just say NO to the Rustproofing. Get it done by a professional shop like Krown Rust Control.

just say NO to the extended warranty. All vehicles have 7-8 year 160,000km 'hidden' powertrain warranties. So you're covered there. (search for Lemon Aid guide on the internet for more info) Also, this is a HONDA. If anything should break $1400 should easily cover most repairs.

it would probably cost the dealer $100 for the rust-proofing ($500 profit for him) and $500 for the extended warranty so ($1000) profit for him there.

Regarding the varranty, the CCC report states:

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 3 Years/60,000 km
Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km
Corrosion: 3 Years/Unlimited km
Rust-Through 5 Years/Unlimited km
Emissions: 3 Years/60,000 km
Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

I'm considering to call the dealer and cancel the rust proofing and extended varranty. If I do the rust protection at Krown, will it void the manufacture varranty? It is said that Krown may drill some holes on the car body which may affect the warranty.

Fate
Aug 19th, 2009, 10:57 AM
The rust proofing and extended warranty were sold to me by the lady who doing the paper work at the last minute, not the sale representative.:evil:
Thats her job. You think once you've established the purchase price the negotiating is over and you get moved to the buying agent to "complete the paper work." You've now let your guard down and her job is to sell you way over priced "additions." A good agent is like gold to a dealer.

tchai
Aug 19th, 2009, 11:03 AM
Do you guys think an offer of $1200 off MSRP is fair for a new 2009 Civic si?

Was at the dealer yesterday and they offered me a price about $1000 more than Honda’s web site MSRP price due to their BS fees and security etching which I refuse to pay....I was kind of pissed off.

The sales guy also said that August is the last month for 0.9% but Honda actually wanted to end it in July. I kind of believe this as I noticed on the web site that the interest rate changed temporarily on Aug 1 to 7.9% but was changed back a day later.

I got a $1500 dealer discount for the Civic DX-G in July. So you must be able to do better with the higher price tag on the Si. After some reading, someone here at RFD just got a $1600 dealer discount on the DX-G just last week.

tchai
Aug 19th, 2009, 11:09 AM
The rust proofing and extended warranty were sold to me by the lady who doing the paper work at the last minute, not the sale representative.:evil:

Not sure what is the price for the extended warranty
I paid $395+tax for the rust protection on my brand new Civic DX-G

I know I was ripped off but I thought it was the peace of mind that all rust is covered by Honda for the next 10 years or more

My dad paid $300+tax to rust prove his brand new Camry LE 2009 at Toyota

So I know $300 or less is possible for rust proving

xi_32
Aug 19th, 2009, 11:24 AM
Regarding the varranty, the CCC report states:

I'm considering to call the dealer and cancel the rust proofing and extended varranty. If I do the rust protection at Krown, will it void the manufacture varranty? It is said that Krown may drill some holes on the car body which may affect the warranty.

Please see http://www.lemonaidcars.com/secretwarranties.html

asingh70
Aug 19th, 2009, 07:09 PM
Hi Guys,
I need little help from you.
Thinking to buy Honda CIVIC DX or SPORT. Can you please post your price if any of you bought any one of these?
Any help appreciated.

Thx

Rahan
Aug 25th, 2009, 10:17 AM
I paid in July 22500(final price) cad for Honda Civic DX-A with windows visors included..

albatman
Aug 25th, 2009, 10:45 AM
I paid in July 22500(final price) cad for Honda Civic DX-A with windows visors included..

WOW... looks like the discounts are all gone. I paid just under 18000 total for DX-A in April

rh-7
Aug 25th, 2009, 10:53 AM
WOW... looks like the discounts are all gone. I paid just under 18000 total for DX-A in April



My sister just bought a DX-A last week and got a 1600 discount

rfd_parasite
Aug 25th, 2009, 11:07 AM
Anyone have the invoice price for the Acccord 4-cylinder EX?

Rahan
Aug 25th, 2009, 10:33 PM
WOW... looks like the discounts are all gone. I paid just under 18000 total for DX-A in April

18000 was the price before or after tax ? I paid 22.5K(tax& fees included...first time Honda owner)

hesp
Aug 25th, 2009, 11:35 PM
anyone get a 2009 or 2010 Pilot?

twistedspoon
Aug 26th, 2009, 09:16 AM
Hi, there,

I have just signed the contract to buy a Honda Accord Sedan EX-V6:

MSRP: $32090.00
Dealer Discount: $2200.00
Total Sale Price: $29600.00

Freight: $1550.00
Federal Air Conditioner Tax: $100.00
Tax for Fuel Consumption: $75.00
OMVIC FEE: $5.00

Extended Warranty: $1448.00
Rust Protection: $599.00

TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE: $33667.00

PST: $2693.78
GST: $1683.35

TOTAL PERCHASE PRICE: $38044.13
REBATE: $1000.00

FINAL PRICE: $37044.13

Do you guys think it is a fair price?

Any comments are appreciated.
You are probably driving your car already but after you take out the extended warranty and rust protection, I think it is a fairly decent price.

I bought my 2009 Honda Accord EX-V6 back in February for $31,900 OTD, when Honda had deals with cash incentives. Having said that, I still think I paid about $300 too much...

BMR
Aug 26th, 2009, 09:51 AM
You are probably driving your car already but after you take out the extended warranty and rust protection, I think it is a fairly decent price.

I bought my 2009 Honda Accord EX-V6 back in February for $31,900 OTD, when Honda had deals with cash incentives. Having said that, I still think I paid about $300 too much...

Is it possible at this time to even come close to this deal if you pay cash ???

BMR

twistedspoon
Aug 26th, 2009, 05:57 PM
Is it possible at this time to even come close to this deal if you pay cash ???

BMR
When I bought my Accord, there was a $2500 cash incentive on I4 models (except LX) and a $3500 cash incentive on V6 models. So unless a dealership can give you a similar cash incentive for an outgoing 2009 model, I suspect the answer is no.

albatman
Aug 26th, 2009, 09:22 PM
18000 was the price before or after tax ? I paid 22.5K(tax& fees included...first time Honda owner)

14500 before tax, just under 18K including everything... my wife drives a honda so we got 1K incentive because of that.

twistedspoon
Aug 27th, 2009, 01:13 PM
Anyone have the invoice price for the Acccord 4-cylinder EX?
I didn't see your post until now but the invoice price for the EX-I4 AUTO was $26,538 six months ago. I would assume the invoice price would be higher now given that Honda has raised the MSRP on the Accords in April.

doberman_baby
Aug 29th, 2009, 01:12 AM
anyone get a 2009 or 2010 Pilot?

Am also looking at this model to replace by 4runner.

ancnfamily
Aug 31st, 2009, 09:39 PM
Civic 2008 : 2000 $ de rabais
Accord 2008 : 4500 $ à 7000 $ de rabais
Crv 2008 : 6000 $ de rabais
Element 2008 : 8000 $ de rabais
Odyssey 2008 : 7000 $ de rabais


http://www.longueuilhonda.com/?gclid=CK2Tl_Wop5gCFQEpGgod_jeUnA


Just bought brand new 2009 Odyssey LX for $27000 + taxes. Not a bad deal since this tread is on 2008 Hondas'

Rehan
Aug 31st, 2009, 10:21 PM
Just bought brand new 2009 Odyssey LX for $27000 + taxes. Not a bad deal since this tread is on 2008 Hondas' Which dealership? I'm looking at those as well...

CF777
Sep 1st, 2009, 12:57 AM
My 2 cents on extended warranties. Just because the dealer's finance office has the extended warranty prices listed nicely in a brochure has nothing to do with what prices you really "need" to pay. I declined the offer from my dealer for the 6yr/100k warranty at list price. A week after delivery I called up another Honda dealer and they were more than willing to give me the same coverage for $200 off list, which is like around 17% off. It's for an Accord 4-cyl EX-L Navi Auto by the way.

I normally don't believe in extended warranty but just last week I had a puncture in my tire that couldn't be repaired (2 penetrations right beside each other). Luckily the Honda Plus coverage included tire road hazard protection. I got a brand new replacement tire, properly mounted and balanced, reinstalled back onto the car and had the spare tire neatly put back into the trunk for a big zero on the bill.
I think I would've had to fork out around $300 to $350 if I didn't have the tire coverage.

BooR4dL3y
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:13 AM
Just bought brand new 2009 Odyssey LX for $27000 + taxes. Not a bad deal since this tread is on 2008 Hondas'

Sounds like you got a fantastic deal.

I traded in my 1999 CR-V EX + wrote a cheque for $22,000 for a 2009 Odyssey DX recently.

Would of liked to have gotten an LX. The extra seat + tinted glass would have been nice.

yangweiba
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:25 AM
[QUOTE=ancnfamily;9346267]Just bought brand new 2009 Odyssey LX for $27000 + taxes. Not a bad deal since this tread is on 2008 Hondas'[/QUOTE

Can you please provide dealership information? I'm looking for an Oddyssey as well...

Dr.Evil
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:44 AM
My mom just got the following:

2009 Honda Civic Dx-g

Dealer threw in mud flaps, security lock nut, mats, rust and fabric protection and some 7 year crappy oil change program where you must get maintainence done from Honda.


Total out the door including 0.9% finanace.

$2350 or $391.85 monthly

not bad considering Honda Civic is not really selling all that well now a days.

vizeta
Sep 1st, 2009, 12:06 PM
Just bought brand new 2009 Odyssey LX for $27000 + taxes. Not a bad deal since this tread is on 2008 Hondas'
Too good to be truth. Make sure the dealer doesn't play trick to give u a demo.

wmahmud
Sep 1st, 2009, 12:35 PM
Is there still an incentive $ off for current Honda owners towards a new Accord EXL-4 or EXL-6 ??

westcoaster
Sep 1st, 2009, 12:36 PM
[QUOTE=ancnfamily;9346267]Just bought brand new 2009 Odyssey LX for $27000 + taxes. Not a bad deal since this tread is on 2008 Hondas'[/QUOTE

Can you please provide dealership information? I'm looking for an Oddyssey as well...

I am also looking for an Odyssey, would prefer the EX model but they have removed the cash incentives on the buying (not leasing) of Odyssey's. Any info woul be helpful.

please PM me...

chenwaa123
Sep 1st, 2009, 12:52 PM
Honda now has a $3000 cash purchase incentive for the Civic Si (not sure about the other Civic's). 0.9% finance is gone. This expires Sept 30, 2009.

johnsa
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:45 PM
Just bought brand new 2009 Odyssey LX for $27000 + taxes. Not a bad deal since this tread is on 2008 Hondas'



I have to CALL you on this one....unless it was a demo..there have been no LX models left for over a month...only thing avail is EX-L or touring

johnsa
Sep 1st, 2009, 01:48 PM
Just bought brand new 2009 Odyssey LX for $27000 + taxes. Not a bad deal since this tread is on 2008 Hondas'

I just realized what he is likelt talking about..Some GTA dealers are selling BRAND NEW 2009 Odyseeys from the USA for 27k....too bad no warranty and resale will be an issue..there have been a few of them in the trader

:D

vizeta
Sep 1st, 2009, 04:44 PM
I just realized what he is likelt talking about..Some GTA dealers are selling BRAND NEW 2009 Odyseeys from the USA for 27k....too bad no warranty and resale will be an issue..there have been a few of them in the trader

:D
what??!! sell american honda car from offical canadian honda dealer?

johnsa
Sep 1st, 2009, 05:55 PM
what??!! sell american honda car from offical canadian honda dealer?


you bet!! Ideal Honda is the main one...They have been doing so since 2008...BRAND NEW units...then they offer you an aftermarket warranty

vizeta
Sep 1st, 2009, 06:01 PM
you bet!! Ideal Honda is the main one...They have been doing so since 2008...BRAND NEW units...then they offer you an aftermarket warranty
thanks for info. it maybe a good choice for new honda car by cheaper price. As long as they don't cheat customer, It's all fine i think.

freewheel
Sep 1st, 2009, 07:03 PM
Team honda in Milton is also selling used Pilots, 2006, again no warranty.

Toronto Star reported today Honda sales down 21% this june. Maybe some more incentives to come? Pilot EX-L is still priced $10,000 cheaper in the U.S.. We are all getting the short end.

ancnfamily
Sep 1st, 2009, 08:05 PM
Which dealership? I'm looking at those as well...

Last Saturday, out of 80+ dealers there were only 3 Odyssey's in whole Ontario. I bought one so 2 left.
My friend can give you a very good deal on any other model.
Since it is a referal I would need a Name and a number to give to him. You only need to give him my name. Alan
Anybody interasted you can e-mail me "ancnfamily@sympatico.ca".
And for those that think that this are US Hondas, should think twice. You can not buy Brand new US honda at Canadian Honda dealer. BTW..my odyssey is brand new.
You can probably get a demo as well if that is what you are looking for.
Dealer is in Brampton.

ancnfamily
Sep 1st, 2009, 08:07 PM
I just realized what he is likelt talking about..Some GTA dealers are selling BRAND NEW 2009 Odyseeys from the USA for 27k....too bad no warranty and resale will be an issue..there have been a few of them in the trader

:D

You CAN'T buy a new US Honda at Canadian Honda dealer. You can buy used USA Honda at any used car lot, including Honda, but no warranty.

ancnfamily
Sep 1st, 2009, 08:11 PM
I have to CALL you on this one....unless it was a demo..there have been no LX models left for over a month...only thing avail is EX-L or touring

only thing avail is EX-L or touring..that is correct. I was told on Satudray that there were no DX available, 3 LX's and lotys EX-L or touring.
I got last LX at this dealer and it is white. Never liked white or black, but for some odd reason white looked very nice on Odyssey. can wait till tomorrow to drive it home. i was always a Nissan/Toyota guy but this thing drove and looked realy nice. Much better than my 2002 Sienna.

fatpig
Sep 1st, 2009, 08:33 PM
Honda now has a $3000 cash purchase incentive for the Civic Si (not sure about the other Civic's). 0.9% finance is gone. This expires Sept 30, 2009.

Source?

emjay
Sep 1st, 2009, 09:01 PM
Source?

Probably CarCostCanada

Seriously... if you're looking to buy a new car, it's worth the $40 to get your 8 reports.

reefburnaby
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:49 PM
My wife and I are looking for a CR-V in BC. We got a call from our local Honda dealer saying that there is a new cash incentive for cash purchases. According to Honda BC's website ( http://www.buildyourhonda.ca/Default.aspx ), there is $3590 cash incentive. Many other vehicles have cash incentives -- just like last year.

- Victor.

chenwaa123
Sep 2nd, 2009, 12:02 AM
Source?

CCC, the info was uploaded this morning:)

Fate
Sep 5th, 2009, 12:44 PM
My wife and I are looking for a CR-V in BC. We got a call from our local Honda dealer saying that there is a new cash incentive for cash purchases. According to Honda BC's website ( http://www.buildyourhonda.ca/Default.aspx ), there is $3590 cash incentive. Many other vehicles have cash incentives -- just like last year.

- Victor.

So I went to this website and build the accord I'm interested in. It's shows roughly a $4500 cash discount off the msrp. I went down to the Honda dealership and looked at their cars and they're showing $2500-3k cash discounts on their cars. I was puzzled and pointed the salesman towards the website and left.

He sent me an email explaining that he and his manager went to the website and were confused at first but then "noticed" that is says the freight and pdi are included in the MSRP but it doesn't say they are included in the cash price so therefore they aren't included in the cash price.

It's crap like this that gives car dealers a bad name. Their website has the freight and pdi included in the msrp, the lease rate and the finance rate but not in the cash price? Come on....

God I hate car dealers. So many games.

chenwaa123
Sep 5th, 2009, 04:26 PM
So I went to this website and build the accord I'm interested in. It's shows roughly a $4500 cash discount off the msrp. I went down to the Honda dealership and looked at their cars and they're showing $2500-3k cash discounts on their cars. I was puzzled and pointed the salesman towards the website and left.

He sent me an email explaining that he and his manager went to the website and were confused at first but then "noticed" that is says the freight and pdi are included in the MSRP but it doesn't say they are included in the cash price so therefore they aren't included in the cash price.

It's crap like this that gives car dealers a bad name. Their website has the freight and pdi included in the msrp, the lease rate and the finance rate but not in the cash price? Come on....

God I hate car dealers. So many games.

Yea that error had been on the Honda "build it" site for a while now, the reduced cash price is shown even when there are no cash deals available

oldsnail
Sep 6th, 2009, 04:03 PM
all acura dealers on vancouver island (includes victoria) are going out of business.. good opportunity to pick up an acura..

chenwaa123
Sep 7th, 2009, 12:33 PM
all acura dealers on vancouver island (includes victoria) are going out of business.. good opportunity to pick up an acura..

Really?:eek:

xjune9x
Sep 10th, 2009, 06:04 PM
Is $27,700 accord LX 2009, OTR a good deal?

Rehan
Sep 10th, 2009, 06:15 PM
Is $27,700 accord LX 2009, OTR a good deal? Yup! Do they have more than one in stock? ;)

xjune9x
Sep 10th, 2009, 06:16 PM
Yup! Do they have more than one in stock? ;)

They got plenty. 2010 accords will be out soon.

Rehan
Sep 10th, 2009, 06:21 PM
Ooops... I guess I'm having reading problems again. For some reason I was thinking Odyssey, not Accord. No idea if that's a good deal for the Accord...Sorry about the mixup.

Liko
Sep 10th, 2009, 06:47 PM
Is $27,700 accord LX 2009, OTR a good deal?

Saw this thread the other day. Might be able to get a better price.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784679

wmahmud
Sep 10th, 2009, 07:13 PM
all acura dealers on vancouver island (includes victoria) are going out of business.. good opportunity to pick up an acura..

Any way to snatch up a hot deal from Toronto? Can you give me the name or names of some of the major Acura dealerships there?

How would I get the car to Toronto?

wazabi
Sep 11th, 2009, 01:28 AM
I heard there is a crazy 8% interest rates on the 09 accord models..

that is crazy.. correct me if i'm wrong

joejack
Sep 11th, 2009, 09:02 AM
all acura dealers on vancouver island (includes victoria) are going out of business.. good opportunity to pick up an acura..

I would be interested in finding the name of the dealer. I am thinking about a 09 TL Tech.

wazabi
Sep 11th, 2009, 01:17 PM
Anyone have a ccc of audi 2.0T quattro?

Hybrid-JD
Sep 11th, 2009, 01:43 PM
really? how do you figure?


all acura dealers on vancouver island (includes victoria) are going out of business.. good opportunity to pick up an acura..

The_Professor
Sep 11th, 2009, 03:41 PM
Anyone have a ccc of audi 2.0T quattro?

Which model, there are several quattro Audi's equipped with the 2.0T.

wazabi
Sep 11th, 2009, 07:37 PM
I saw it in another thread but this is from april 2009. Probably is unchanged

2009 Audi A4 4dr Sdn Auto 2.0T
quattro Premium
Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $45,000.00 $41,346.00
Freight $800.00 $800.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- PDI CHARGE *PDI amount may vary - see local dealer for more
information* (-PDI) $849.00 $849.00
- FRONT LICENSE PLATE HOLDER *For vehicles ordered in Provinces that require
front license plates* (6W3) $0.00 $0.00
- SPORT PKG -inc: 18" 10-spoke alloy w heels w /245/40R18 high
performance tires,
sport steering w heel w /shift paddles, sport seats, sport suspension
(PPS) $1,800.00 $1,638.00
- REAR SIDE AIRBAGS (4X4) $500.00 $455.00
Totals including all items above $49,049.00 $45,188.00

vu_ho_huy
Sep 13th, 2009, 09:29 AM
My dealer offered me an 09 Accord EX-L i4 for $31832 OTD.
Here is the break down:
31290 (msrp)
-3000 (Honda rebate)
-1850 (dealer rebate)
+100 (ac)
+75 (gas <didn't know the accord was considered a gas guzzler)
+5 (some tax thing)
+1550 (PDI)
----------------
28170 (before taxes <ontario>)

31832.10 (total)

Because I don't have a CCC report, I am not certain that this is a good deal. But using a CCC report on a 09 accord coupe EX-L that some good soul uploaded here: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=665206 , the deal ain't bad.

Since it was my first dealership visit, I didn't even dicker with the salesman. I wanted to shop around first. So I figure I can work it down a bit further. I'll keep you guys updated. Love to hear what you have to say.

gretzky99
Sep 13th, 2009, 10:52 AM
Is this a hot deal?

A brand new 2009 Honda Civic Sedan Dx-G for $22,300 cash.
The price already includes all taxes and already includes the $2,000 manufacturer's rebate.

Good or no?

IntrepidRT
Sep 13th, 2009, 10:59 AM
Is this a hot deal?

A brand new 2009 Honda Civic Sedan Dx-G for $22,300 cash.
The price already includes all taxes and already includes the $2,000 manufacturer's rebate.

Good or no?
Doesn't seem like a great deal at all. Selling my '06 DX coupe with 35k on it for $12k cash. Purchased for $19 drive away (if I had waited until 07 probably could've picked up for $18 drive away with the Honda $1000 rebate that didn't exist in '06).

BillDauterive
Sep 13th, 2009, 05:07 PM
Is this a hot deal?

A brand new 2009 Honda Civic Sedan Dx-G for $22,300 cash.
The price already includes all taxes and already includes the $2,000 manufacturer's rebate.

Good or no?

Doesn't sound too hot to me. Isn't the manufacturer's rebate $2500 for the Civic sedan? No dealer rebate?

gretzky99
Sep 13th, 2009, 08:19 PM
Doesn't sound too hot to me. Isn't the manufacturer's rebate $2500 for the Civic sedan? No dealer rebate?

Well I was told the manufacturer's rebate was $2,000 for the Civic sedan. :confused:

Anyways...apparently this is what the original cost is :

$20,780 MSRP
$ 1,395 freight & PDI
$ 100 Air tax
$ 5 OMVIC fee
$ 395 security & safety package
$22,675
$ 2,948 GST & PST
$25,623

and after much bantering, the dealer mentioned the lowest they'll go is $22,300.
So you saying I can find an even cheaper price somewhere else? Where then?

marvie
Sep 14th, 2009, 12:02 AM
Well I was told the manufacturer's rebate was $2,000 for the Civic sedan. :confused:

Anyways...apparently this is what the original cost is :

$20,780 MSRP
$ 1,395 freight & PDI
$ 100 Air tax
$ 5 OMVIC fee
$ 395 security & safety package
$22,675
$ 2,948 GST & PST
$25,623

and after much bantering, the dealer mentioned the lowest they'll go is $22,300.
So you saying I can find an even cheaper price somewhere else? Where then?

I just got the same thing as you did minus the security pkg for $19934.11, picking it up wednesday

I believe that you do get the $2500 for sedan, and $3000 for coupe if im not mistaken.

CF777
Sep 14th, 2009, 01:32 AM
My dealer offered me an 09 Accord EX-L i4 for $31832 OTD.
Here is the break down:
31290 (msrp)
-3000 (Honda rebate)
-1850 (dealer rebate)
+100 (ac)
+75 (gas <didn't know the accord was considered a gas guzzler)
+5 (some tax thing)
+1550 (PDI)
----------------
28170 (before taxes <ontario>)

31832.10 (total)

Because I don't have a CCC report, I am not certain that this is a good deal. But using a CCC report on a 09 accord coupe EX-L that some good soul uploaded here: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=665206 , the deal ain't bad.

Since it was my first dealership visit, I didn't even dicker with the salesman. I wanted to shop around first. So I figure I can work it down a bit further. I'll keep you guys updated. Love to hear what you have to say.

I can't comment on 2009's but half a year ago I bought a 2008 EX-L Navi Auto for $31.5k OTD (in BC with 12% tax). Back then Honda had a $4500 rebate. Maybe work a little harder on the salesperson or wait until Honda up the rebates on 09's? Hope this helps.

hindoo
Sep 14th, 2009, 10:53 AM
I just got the same thing as you did minus the security pkg for $19934.11, picking it up wednesday

I believe that you do get the $2500 for sedan, and $3000 for coupe if im not mistaken.

Would you mind sharing your dealer information?

fatpig
Sep 14th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Well I was told the manufacturer's rebate was $2,000 for the Civic sedan. :confused:

The dealer lied to you. The rebate on the DX-G sedan is $2,500.

fatpig
Sep 14th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Anyways...apparently this is what the original cost is :

$20,780 MSRP
$ 1,395 freight & PDI
$ 100 Air tax
$ 5 OMVIC fee
$ 395 security & safety package
$22,675
$ 2,948 GST & PST
$25,623

and after much bantering, the dealer mentioned the lowest they'll go is $22,300.
So you saying I can find an even cheaper price somewhere else? Where then?

I don't think the security package is needed. Get rid of that and aim for about $1,000 less than the price they quoted.

gretzky99
Sep 14th, 2009, 08:30 PM
The dealer lied to you. The rebate on the DX-G sedan is $2,500.

Thanks. Can you tell me where you got your info so I can confront the dealer with that rebate.

realgouki8
Sep 14th, 2009, 08:54 PM
Just bought the DX-G for 20800, hope that helps.

spyhero
Sep 14th, 2009, 09:19 PM
Just bought the DX-G for 20800, hope that helps.

Is this on the road price? Manual or automatic? Which dealer? Thanks.

realgouki8
Sep 14th, 2009, 09:37 PM
That's on the road price. It's automatic. I think you can get that price from most of the dealers in GTA like Number 7 Honda, Markham Honda, Mississauga Honda, Ready Honda.

BillDauterive
Sep 14th, 2009, 09:45 PM
That's on the road price. It's automatic. I think you can get that price from most of the dealers in GTA like Number 7 Honda, Markham Honda, Mississauga Honda, Ready Honda.

sedan or coupe?

fatpig
Sep 14th, 2009, 11:12 PM
Just bought the DX-G for 20800, hope that helps.

That works out to $100 above invoice. How did you manage that?

fatpig
Sep 14th, 2009, 11:15 PM
Thanks. Can you tell me where you got your info so I can confront the dealer with that rebate.

http://www.hondaontario.com/specialoffers/429-save_$2500_on_a_civic_sedan.html

kuba
Sep 14th, 2009, 11:59 PM
Well I was told the manufacturer's rebate was $2,000 for the Civic sedan. :confused:

Anyways...apparently this is what the original cost is :

$20,780 MSRP
$ 1,395 freight & PDI
$ 100 Air tax
$ 5 OMVIC fee
$ 395 security & safety package
$22,675
$ 2,948 GST & PST
$25,623

and after much bantering, the dealer mentioned the lowest they'll go is $22,300.
So you saying I can find an even cheaper price somewhere else? Where then?


Which model exactly?
PM me and I can probably help you out with a price.

MoreYummy
Sep 15th, 2009, 12:04 AM
Just bought the DX-G for 20800, hope that helps.

Isnt it the msrp?

Or you added something else and still same price?

realgouki8
Sep 15th, 2009, 10:19 AM
Let me clear this
Civic Sedan, DX-G, Automatic
$20,780 MSRP
$ 1,395 freight & PDI
$ 100 Air tax
$ 5 OMVIC fee
$ 249 security & safety package
$22,529
$ 2,928.77 GST & PST
$25457.77
-$2500 Rebate
$22957.77

$22957.77 is the price they will ask for but you can negotiate it down to 20800. I feel there is a better price, but that's the best I can get.

dufFWant
Sep 16th, 2009, 09:03 AM
Folks,

I am considering getting an Odyssey - not sure which package at this point.

Any insights on the pricing / availability of the 09 models? I though I read here that there was very limited availability on this mode?

What about dealer pricing, let's say for the DX and the EX-L models?

Any recent purchasing experiences and prices would be appreciated.

TIA

johnsa
Sep 16th, 2009, 10:13 AM
Folks,

I am considering getting an Odyssey - not sure which package at this point.

Any insights on the pricing / availability of the 09 models? I though I read here that there was very limited availability on this mode?

What about dealer pricing, let's say for the DX and the EX-L models?

Any recent purchasing experiences and prices would be appreciated.

TIA

Pretty simple...the only 09s left are touring, EX-L...no DX, no LX, likely no EX..so if you want a few grand off a 40k +van..give your local honda dealer a call.:D

Seriuosly, I looked into these end of JULY and the LX and DX were sold out then, except a few dealer demos orodd ducks.

tagaravabha
Sep 18th, 2009, 02:36 PM
Im in Alberta - I have a quote for a 2009 Civic Coupe DX-A for $18,700 on the road. The car is on the dealer's lot. Is this a good price? How far down should I be able to negotiate this?

BillDauterive
Sep 18th, 2009, 04:36 PM
Im in Alberta - I have a quote for a 2009 Civic Coupe DX-A for $18,700 on the road. The car is on the dealer's lot. Is this a good price? How far down should I be able to negotiate this?

Is that auto or manual?

tagaravabha
Sep 18th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Sorry, its an automatic - good deal? Im leaning now more towards a sedan - what would be a comparably great deal for an 09 Civic DX-A 4dr Sedan?

BanjoKen
Sep 19th, 2009, 07:49 PM
My father just bought a 2009 civic sedan DX with Auto+AC. Came to be around $20200 after tax and everything, good deal?

tagaravabha
Sep 20th, 2009, 01:53 AM
My father just bought a 2009 civic sedan DX with Auto+AC. Came to be around $20200 after tax and everything, good deal?

Did he add any options, or was it just Auto and AC on top of the DX (I guess the DX-A in automatic)? Im assuming its $20200 taxes in...what province are you located in?

ciao
Sep 20th, 2009, 12:37 PM
Let me clear this
Civic Sedan, DX-G, Automatic
$20,780 MSRP
$ 1,395 freight & PDI
$ 100 Air tax
$ 5 OMVIC fee
$ 249 security & safety package
$22,529
$ 2,928.77 GST & PST
$25457.77
-$2500 Rebate
$22957.77

$22957.77 is the price they will ask for but you can negotiate it down to 20800. I feel there is a better price, but that's the best I can get.

That represents $2,200 of profit. Do you think the margins are $3,000 or so and they're willing to sell for a profit of $800? More likely they'll want to make at least $1K and margins are likely only $2K. $22K may be a good price.

BanjoKen
Sep 20th, 2009, 01:40 PM
Did he add any options, or was it just Auto and AC on top of the DX (I guess the DX-A in automatic)? Im assuming its $20200 taxes in...what province are you located in?

I think its just AC +Auto on top of DX, $20200 after taxes. This was in Ontario.

realgouki8
Sep 20th, 2009, 06:38 PM
I think its just AC +Auto on top of DX, $20200 after taxes. This was in Ontario.

Not a good deal, you should get that for $19300 on the road.

littlebird
Sep 20th, 2009, 07:27 PM
That represents $2,200 of profit. Do you think the margins are $3,000 or so and they're willing to sell for a profit of $800? More likely they'll want to make at least $1K and margins are likely only $2K. $22K may be a good price.

How much discount normally can be asked for an used Honda Odyssey? Let's say, the list price is $27000 for a 2008 model.

Thanks.

Xerex
Sep 20th, 2009, 07:49 PM
Anyone bought this and knows the invoice price? I'm thinking of getting this.. any help would be much appreciated.. the one posted in the newspaper from honda after all discount... the price is msrp 27K - 3500 -2000 gov = 22 K... is this still negotiable?

albatman
Sep 20th, 2009, 08:00 PM
That represents $2,200 of profit. Do you think the margins are $3,000 or so and they're willing to sell for a profit of $800? More likely they'll want to make at least $1K and margins are likely only $2K. $22K may be a good price.

Few months ago, I paid invoice + $400 - $3000 incentives.... Yes if they care about making business, they are willing to sell, $400 is better than 0....

ciao
Sep 20th, 2009, 08:21 PM
Few months ago, I paid invoice + $400 - $3000 incentives.... Yes if they care about making business, they are willing to sell, $400 is better than 0....

thats a great deal, it would be good if others could quote vehicle and what they paid above invoice price and month of sale

realgouki8
Sep 20th, 2009, 08:25 PM
one week ago, I paid invoice + $90 -$2500 incentives

albatman
Sep 20th, 2009, 08:41 PM
one week ago, I paid invoice + $90 -$2500 incentives

Good point, you should be able to pay even less in the fall especially if they have the color and trim you want.

My purchase was in March

vu_ho_huy
Sep 21st, 2009, 07:29 AM
My dealer offered me an 09 Accord EX-L i4 for $31832 OTD.
Here is the break down:
31290 (msrp)
-3000 (Honda rebate)
-1850 (dealer rebate)
+100 (ac)
+75 (gas <didn't know the accord was considered a gas guzzler)
+5 (some tax thing)
+1550 (PDI)
----------------
28170 (before taxes <ontario>)

31832.10 (total)

Because I don't have a CCC report, I am not certain that this is a good deal. But using a CCC report on a 09 accord coupe EX-L that some good soul uploaded here: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=665206 , the deal ain't bad.

Since it was my first dealership visit, I didn't even dicker with the salesman. I wanted to shop around first. So I figure I can work it down a bit further. I'll keep you guys updated. Love to hear what you have to say.

OK, I promised to keep you guys informed so here it is:
I worked it down to 27831.00 before taxes, which is 31450.00 OTR.
This works out to be $238.00 above invoice, according to CCC.
I agreed to this price on the condition they take my 98 Saturn SW1
for $1000.00.

gucci17
Sep 21st, 2009, 08:14 AM
Folks,

I am considering getting an Odyssey - not sure which package at this point.

Any insights on the pricing / availability of the 09 models? I though I read here that there was very limited availability on this mode?

What about dealer pricing, let's say for the DX and the EX-L models?

Any recent purchasing experiences and prices would be appreciated.

TIA

I don't believe if there are any '09 Odysseys left. The last EX-L was sold to my friend. The 2010s should be coming out soon though.

ciao
Sep 21st, 2009, 09:58 AM
one week ago, I paid invoice + $90 -$2500 incentives

What vehicle did you buy?

xjune9x
Sep 21st, 2009, 11:56 AM
Does anyone have the invoice price for Honda civic si-4 door model?

Much appreciated. Thanks,

realgouki8
Sep 21st, 2009, 12:55 PM
What vehicle did you buy?

09 Civic Sedan DX-G Auto

mikeswatch
Sep 21st, 2009, 01:25 PM
I am being offered Honda Civic DX-G Sedan.

It's automatic.

Suppose to call back today to either accept or reject the offer.

Any thoughts? Good deal? bad or OK? Will they go down any further?

Edit: Did not buy the car.

tagaravabha
Sep 21st, 2009, 02:25 PM
09 Civic Sedan DX-G Auto

Im now leaning towards a DX-G Auto Sedan, with a dealer quote for $19,700 OTR (in Calgary). Is this a good price? What do dealers try to add to an "OTR" quote over the phone? Any surprises I should expect when I get to the dealership?

MichaelKnight
Sep 21st, 2009, 05:52 PM
OK, I promised to keep you guys informed so here it is:
I worked it down to 27831.00 before taxes, which is 31450.00 OTR.
This works out to be $238.00 above invoice, according to CCC.
I agreed to this price on the condition they take my 98 Saturn SW1
for $1000.00.

manual or automatic?

HP_John
Sep 22nd, 2009, 02:46 AM
Im now leaning towards a DX-G Auto Sedan, with a dealer quote for $19,700 OTR (in Calgary). Is this a good price? What do dealers try to add to an "OTR" quote over the phone? Any surprises I should expect when I get to the dealership?

If it's a OTR quote, then that should include all fees & taxes already.

marvie
Sep 22nd, 2009, 01:47 PM
If it's a OTR quote, then that should include all fees & taxes already.

Make sure you dont' get scammed and their their protection packages and all the other things they try to get you to pay for. or else they make their money back

cancuckbob
Sep 22nd, 2009, 06:06 PM
Hi,

Considering buying a 2009 Honda Civic DX manual coupe in Quebec since there is a $3200 factory rebate.

MSRP -----------------$17190
Dealer Invoice ----------15990 -----$1200 Dealer Profit
Rebate ---------------- 3200
Freight + PDI ---------- 1395

Vehicle Breakeven Price-14185

Tire tax ------------------15
GST ---------------------710
PST ---------------------1118.25

Out the door cost ------- $16028.25

Any chance I could get this car for $16500 while leaving the dealer about $400 profit (Not including any secret factory to dealer rebates)?

albatman
Sep 22nd, 2009, 06:58 PM
Hi,

Considering buying a 2009 Honda Civic DX manual coupe in Quebec since there is a $3200 factory rebate.

MSRP -----------------$17190
Dealer Invoice ----------15990 -----$1200 Dealer Profit
Rebate ---------------- 3200
Freight + PDI ---------- 1395

Vehicle Breakeven Price-14185

Tire tax ------------------15
GST ---------------------710
PST ---------------------1118.25

Out the door cost ------- $16028.25

Any chance I could get this car for $16500 while leaving the dealer about $400 profit (Not including any secret factory to dealer rebates)?

Most likely, and can probably get it for less than that, especially if the dealer has the color you want on the lot.... they are clearing out 2009 models now.

JoeyB
Sep 22nd, 2009, 07:15 PM
I agreed to this price on the condition they take my 98 Saturn SW1
for $1000.00.

Unless that Saturn has got over 200 K
that is a TERRIBLE price for a trade-in
You're a LOT BETTER OFF selling yourself!

tagaravabha
Sep 22nd, 2009, 07:45 PM
Im now leaning towards a DX-G Auto Sedan, with a dealer quote for $19,700 OTR (in Calgary). Is this a good price? What do dealers try to add to an "OTR" quote over the phone? Any surprises I should expect when I get to the dealership?

Dealer reneged on the DX-G. I'm now looking at a 2009 DX-A Automatic for $18700 OTR. So-so deal, or great deal?

Im having trouble deciding between the 2009 Honda DX-A auto sedan for $18700 OTR and a 2010 Kia Forte EX auto sedan for $20400 OTR. Lots more extras on the Kia (incl. ESC) and 5-yr bumper to bumper warranty, but it's a Kia after all. Both OTR prices seem to be very good (pls correct if Im wrong). Any advice on what to consider in making the decision, would be greatly appreciated.

Rahan
Sep 22nd, 2009, 10:03 PM
I think its just AC +Auto on top of DX, $20200 after taxes. This was in Ontario.

This price is for cash or they still have 0.9% for 60 months available ???

Carzzz
Sep 22nd, 2009, 10:34 PM
Dealer reneged on the DX-G. I'm now looking at a 2009 DX-A Automatic for $18700 OTR. So-so deal, or great deal?

Im having trouble deciding between the 2009 Honda DX-A auto sedan for $18700 OTR and a 2010 Kia Forte EX auto sedan for $20400 OTR. Lots more extras on the Kia (incl. ESC) and 5-yr bumper to bumper warranty, but it's a Kia after all. Both OTR prices seem to be very good (pls correct if Im wrong). Any advice on what to consider in making the decision, would be greatly appreciated.

u get A LOT more features with Kia... but we know kia has poor resale value and possible 1st year bugs... It may worth to try Kia since their quality is better than ever..

etam
Sep 23rd, 2009, 06:07 PM
09 Civic Sedan DX-G Auto

which dealer? thanks!

CoolCow2009
Sep 23rd, 2009, 08:26 PM
Hi, guys, Would you tell me how is the deal for Civic Sport 2009 right now?

CoolCow2009
Sep 23rd, 2009, 08:49 PM
Civic sport
I was offered $22,980 - $1K off for the civic+tax+freght/PDi $1,395 and security $395.... $26.5K

Is that a good deal? should i wait for august when they are clearing out the 2009?

what is the cost price on these cars?


OH..cool price. Would please tell me which Dealer u got it ?

I decide to get one.

tagaravabha
Sep 23rd, 2009, 08:51 PM
Finally did it - pulled the trigger on a 2009 Civic DX-G auto sedan for $20,000 on the road. They threw in rear splash guards and two free oil changes, but excluded the glass etching security service, which was priced at $249.00 before tax. I figure the "effective" wholesale price of the car as follows:

$20,000/1.05 GST (Alberta) = $19,048
$19,048- $1395 (Freight+PDI) - $100 (AC tax) - $20 (Tire levy) = $17,533
$17,533+ $2,500 cash incentive = $20,033.

The CCC report lists the wholesale price at $19,325 which means the markup percentage here is $20,033*100/$19,325 = 3.7%. If I subtract the value of the rear splash guards ($91.95), then it appears that the mark up is only 3.2%.

Is my math right?

xjune9x
Sep 25th, 2009, 11:21 AM
Hi,

I bought a honda civic 4 door at a honda dealership and they had to locate the car for me as as it wasn't available at their dealership. My first color choice was blue, second silver. I told them i wanted blue, but they couldn't locate it and they found a silver for me. I signed the contract that the car must be below 50kms. Now the salesperson called me advising me that the car has 200km on it and if i should go ahead and order it. I told him that we agreed on the contract the car should have 50km below, I told him to order it and we gota work something out later after we order it. I'm sort of stuck here now. What should i do. I find it strange that the car has 200kms on it and what sort of deal can i work out with the sales person since i agreed to get the car now. I'm in a limbo. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you

CSR
Sep 25th, 2009, 11:24 AM
Hi,

I bought a honda civic 4 door at a honda dealership and they had to locate the car for me as as it wasn't available at their dealership. My first color choice was blue, second silver. I told them i wanted blue, but they couldn't locate it and they found a silver for me. I signed the contract that the car must be below 50kms. Now the salesperson called me advising me that the car has 200km on it and if i should go ahead and order it. I told him that we agreed on the contract the car should have 50km below, I told him to order it and we gota work something out later after we order it. I'm sort of stuck here now. What should i do. I find it strange that the car has 200kms on it and what sort of deal can i work out with the sales person since i agreed to get the car now. I'm in a limbo. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you

Should have stood firm on your original contract. Once you gave him the ok to get the 200km car, your old contract was void. G'luck trying to get something out of them now.

JoeyB
Sep 25th, 2009, 12:11 PM
Do not buy that car!!!!
They are screwing you and you will be very sorry
if you take possession!!

/stand up for your rights! Call the Ontario Ombudsman.

xjune9x
Sep 25th, 2009, 12:51 PM
Do not buy that car!!!!
They are screwing you and you will be very sorry
if you take possession!!

/stand up for your rights! Call the Ontario Ombudsman.

I went straight to the dealership and spoked with the sales guy. I asked him if this was a showroom car or a possibly a demo car and flat out he said no. I also questioned him why there was 200kms on it if its brand NEW comming from that dealership and he told me it came from other dealerships. Oh and he said it'll probably take a week for the car to get in. I asked why it takes that long and said because of the paperwork and delivery. The car is just 1.5hrs away from the dealership. I knew he was BSing to me. I told him i'll think about this and i'll give him a answer today. He agreed. I left the dealership. Then 5 minutes later, he left a emergency VM on my phone. I asked whats this about. And he told i gota give him a answer by a certain time today, if i wanted the car. And he advised me that the car now has 220km instead the of 200KM and if i wanted it, there will be 300KMS. I told him i'll drop by his dealership this afternoon to give him an answer. I definitely will not take this car.

JoeyB
Sep 25th, 2009, 12:55 PM
Stop trying to be nice.
GO BACK THERE AND TELL HIM YOU WANT YOUR MONEY BACK NOW!!
or you'll get a sign and start picketing his dealership!

/AND TO OTHERS:Never give a dealership upfront money in this type of scenario!

crikey
Sep 25th, 2009, 01:41 PM
I agree. Get your money back. And tell the salesperson to have the car on the lot before he calls you back. To them, you're already a sale, so they can string you along for as long as they need to.

tony822
Sep 26th, 2009, 11:54 AM
i agree. Get your money back. And tell the salesperson to have the car on the lot before he calls you back. To them, you're already a sale, so they can string you along for as long as they need to.

+1

maniacshopper
Sep 26th, 2009, 02:28 PM
is this 2009 or 2010?
200km on new car is excessive. That's a demo car.
It should depreciate by at least $1500.
cancel your deal and get your deposit back

xjune9x
Sep 26th, 2009, 03:26 PM
is this 2009 or 2010?
200km on new car is excessive. That's a demo car.
It should depreciate by at least $1500.
cancel your deal and get your deposit back

This is a 2009 model. And it actually has 225KMS. The salesman lied to me, originally saying it had less than 50KMS, after signing the contract. I got my money back. Thanks to all of you. :razz:

silverferrari
Sep 26th, 2009, 05:58 PM
one week ago, I paid invoice + $90 -$2500 incentives

hi realgouki8, which model did you buy? Does that mean the dealer only made $90 profit?

realgouki8
Sep 27th, 2009, 12:20 AM
YES. According to the CCC invoice price, they only made a $90 profit. However I don't think it is the actual invoice price.

Civic Sedan DX-G auto

tagaravabha
Sep 27th, 2009, 12:41 AM
Can you show how one calculates this, factoring in Freight+PDI+taxes?

Addict
Sep 27th, 2009, 01:55 AM
Thanks for this info..

Getting myself into a similar situation. Just put a deposit down for a Civic DX-A Manual. 18,390 OTR. I believe this is about $300 above ccc cost. They are just about to do the search for the vehicle. They said that we have the option to cancel if the km is anything over 50. Sales person mentioned stock is likely only available outside the GTA, so transportation costs may cause the KM to exceed. Hopefully they dont try and give me a demo. Please keep us posted on anything else you learn. I know I would appreciate it.

The challenge is they are giving out great deals with these 2009 models. If you dont accept the 200km car, you may be out of luck. 2010 cars will be $2500 more. I dont know if you considered, using the extra km to get a better deal, or try and ask them for another color. That is if they cannot find another car with the color you want.

addict



Hi,

I bought a honda civic 4 door at a honda dealership and they had to locate the car for me as as it wasn't available at their dealership. My first color choice was blue, second silver. I told them i wanted blue, but they couldn't locate it and they found a silver for me. I signed the contract that the car must be below 50kms. Now the salesperson called me advising me that the car has 200km on it and if i should go ahead and order it. I told him that we agreed on the contract the car should have 50km below, I told him to order it and we gota work something out later after we order it. I'm sort of stuck here now. What should i do. I find it strange that the car has 200kms on it and what sort of deal can i work out with the sales person since i agreed to get the car now. I'm in a limbo. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you

xjune9x
Sep 27th, 2009, 01:42 PM
Thanks for this info..

Getting myself into a similar situation. Just put a deposit down for a Civic DX-A Manual. 18,390 OTR. I believe this is about $300 above ccc cost. They are just about to do the search for the vehicle. They said that we have the option to cancel if the km is anything over 50. Sales person mentioned stock is likely only available outside the GTA, so transportation costs may cause the KM to exceed. Hopefully they dont try and give me a demo. Please keep us posted on anything else you learn. I know I would appreciate it.

The challenge is they are giving out great deals with these 2009 models. If you dont accept the 200km car, you may be out of luck. 2010 cars will be $2500 more. I dont know if you considered, using the extra km to get a better deal, or try and ask them for another color. That is if they cannot find another car with the color you want.

addict

The car i was trying to order had already 224km on it from another dealership, if i wanted to the car it would have been over 300km. I've tried to make a deal with the sales person he wouldn't budge. I'm not in a rush to get a car. Every year they have incentives, as they need to clear out their cars for the next wave of new cars. Oh and i've seen spy shots of the next generation of Civics comming next year.

jpm88
Sep 28th, 2009, 01:36 PM
xj .. did u write in the contract it has to be under 50? If so just don't take delivery, don't even waste time to talk to them. Tell them sort you out a car according to the contract, or get your money back, you don't need to budge at all. Don't buy that transfer from another dealership bs, they should not have more than 20km on them no matter what (even thats being generous....)

JoeyB
Sep 28th, 2009, 02:32 PM
WHO BUYS A 1 or 2 year old VEHICLE WITH MORE THAN
200 KKM IS RE*****D!

Fate
Sep 28th, 2009, 02:47 PM
WHO BUYS A 1 or 2 year old VEHICLE WITH MORE THAN
200 KKM IS RE*****D!

What?

CoolCow2009
Sep 30th, 2009, 08:22 PM
Is it a good deal $23000 for a CIVIC SPORT?

CoolCow2009
Sep 30th, 2009, 08:24 PM
And also, would you tell me what type of things I need to pay attention when I buy a new car? Ps give me a help , this is the first time to buy a new car!
Thank you !

Mendes
Sep 30th, 2009, 09:40 PM
Financing rate on the Honda Site is 5.9% for 60 months on a DX-G?

http://www.buildyourhonda.ca/Default.aspx

is the 0.9 for 60 Done?

frank796
Oct 1st, 2009, 08:37 AM
Is it a good deal $23000 for a CIVIC SPORT?

i think so, been shopping for a car, I'm in Ottawa/Gatineau region and best I got at Gatineau Honda was 24k for a civic sport automatic. All he really gave me was the 2500$ rebate on the sedan and removed 500$ instead of the cheap winter tire they offered. I'm paying cash too, which i think isn't such a great deal.. if it would been more near the 22-23k I would bought it. I just hate how cheap the DX and DXG feels, handles and mirrors don't match the car paint, cheap wheels.. keyless entry and trunk opening only on upper models..

CoolCow2009
Oct 1st, 2009, 02:36 PM
i think so, been shopping for a car, I'm in Ottawa/Gatineau region and best I got at Gatineau Honda was 24k for a civic sport automatic. All he really gave me was the 2500$ rebate on the sedan and removed 500$ instead of the cheap winter tire they offered. I'm paying cash too, which i think isn't such a great deal.. if it would been more near the 22-23k I would bought it. I just hate how cheap the DX and DXG feels, handles and mirrors don't match the car paint, cheap wheels.. keyless entry and trunk opening only on upper models..

Hi, thanks your advice. You mean you got a winter tires also for $24000?

mavvee
Oct 1st, 2009, 09:08 PM
Does anyone know what the Honda October incentives are?

pennysaver
Oct 12th, 2009, 03:06 PM
Does anyone know what the Honda October incentives are?

I dont think there are any discounts on the 2010's. I think the 2009 CR-V still has the $2000 off. CR-V is what we want but I am hoping for some bigger discounts. Not sure it that will happen.

Rehan
Oct 12th, 2009, 03:20 PM
You can see the current incentives at http://cars4u.com/rebates/default.asp?make_id=1070&Make_Name=Honda

The 24/36 month finance rate on the 2010 Odyssey DX is 1.9%... and I'm hoping they'll go at least $1000 below MSRP (cars4u is offering a $740 discount). I'm going to stop by my local dealership this week.

Rehan
Oct 13th, 2009, 04:33 PM
FYI, I got a quote from the APA and they've arranged a price for the 2010 Odyssey DX that's over $1500 below MSRP and for the Odyssey SE more than $2000 below MSRP. Plus 5% off dealer-installed accessories and $0 admin fee. This is for the Toronto area...

(To be able to take advantage of that price, you have to join the APA for $65/year and then pay $65 for a referral to the broker/dealership -- http://www.apa.ca/ )

dlander
Oct 13th, 2009, 05:25 PM
WHO BUYS A 1 or 2 year old VEHICLE WITH MORE THAN
200 KKM IS RE*****D!

Ummm, that is a big generalization.
There is a fair price for everything. It all depends on the price.

yu130960
Oct 13th, 2009, 05:34 PM
FYI, I got a quote from the APA and they've arranged a price for the 2010 Odyssey DX that's over $1500 below MSRP and for the Odyssey SE more than $2000 below MSRP. Plus 5% off dealer-installed accessories and $0 admin fee. This is for the Toronto area...

(To be able to take advantage of that price, you have to join the APA for $65/year and then pay $65 for a referral to the broker/dealership -- http://www.apa.ca/ )

carcostcanada is good as well. too bad no incentivies on 2010 Hondas yet.

freewheel
Oct 13th, 2009, 10:09 PM
carcostcanada is good as well. too bad no incentivies on 2010 Hondas yet.

2010 pilot has a $2000 rebate. Cash purchase.

yu130960
Oct 13th, 2009, 10:42 PM
2010 pilot has a $2000 rebate. Cash purchase.

Sorry I was talking about the Odyssey. The best I have so far is invoice +$400-$500.

wycf
Oct 14th, 2009, 12:23 AM
I just made a deal for 2010 CR-V EX, everything included $37000 cash. Will pick it up next week. I also asked the dealer give me all-season floor mats and the cargo mat.

Is this a good deal?

ZIgot
Oct 14th, 2009, 12:49 AM
Is there any good deal on the Honda Fit atm?
Thx

scouzer
Nov 14th, 2009, 11:02 PM
$3000 cash rebate on 2009 Civics right now.

mavvee
Nov 14th, 2009, 11:08 PM
Any rebates on the 2009 odysseys right now?

The_Professor
Nov 14th, 2009, 11:29 PM
Anyone know if there are cash rebates on the CR-V's (either 2009 or 2010)?

82
Nov 14th, 2009, 11:50 PM
The price drop on 2010 Civic and Accord make the $3000 rebate less attractive.

$3000 cash rebate on 2009 Civics right now.

scouzer
Nov 15th, 2009, 02:15 AM
The price drop on 2010 Civic and Accord make the $3000 rebate less attractive.

True, but it's still $2000 less than a 2010 if you don't mind the hit on resale.

HockeyFan
Nov 15th, 2009, 10:34 AM
True, but it's still $2000 less than a 2010 if you don't mind the hit on resale.

Ya, you have to put a cap on your car purchase price as you will always find something better for a a few thousand more.

deal hunt
Nov 18th, 2009, 11:31 PM
How is the deal ....

casperr
Nov 19th, 2009, 03:34 AM
Thinking about the civic.

wai_jai268
Nov 21st, 2009, 03:55 AM
2009 Honda Civic 2dr with air cond, base model. 18224 otd. good? The dealership is Fxrmulx


Anyhow, Honda is always relunctant to drop their rates to 0%, Toyota is offering 0% financing for 36 months. I am guessing that people will continue their rate of buying honda even with every other drop prices+rates

HockeyFan
Nov 21st, 2009, 07:06 AM
2009 Honda Civic 2dr with air cond, base model. 18224 otd. good? The dealership is Fxrmulx


Anyhow, Honda is always relunctant to drop their rates to 0%, Toyota is offering 0% financing for 36 months. I am guessing that people will continue their rate of buying honda even with every other drop prices+rates

Ya, that's why Honda rarely has great financing. They know people will still buy their cars.

nice4
Nov 21st, 2009, 11:12 AM
18224 is good..and I paid $150 more in Sept. with high expectation. Well just keep in mind that the Canaida made Civic is just not as good as it used to be (93 Civic). They are very, very noise and not smooth(tranny) as the older, older generations. The front fender panel does not even firmly screwed to its body, it produced rattle sound as if on bumpy road, the left turn blind spot even worse and dangerly blocks the clear view right on the left turn entry lane. basically it just not as good as it used to be - disappointed, period.:cry:
Only with the discount makes Honda a choice and I could be very regret if I have paid with its full MRSP.

hesp
Nov 21st, 2009, 11:14 AM
any incentives on the Odyssey or Pilot?

Cleankill
Nov 21st, 2009, 06:11 PM
2009 Honda Civic 2dr with air cond, base model. 18224 otd. good? The dealership is Fxrmulx


Anyhow, Honda is always relunctant to drop their rates to 0%, Toyota is offering 0% financing for 36 months. I am guessing that people will continue their rate of buying honda even with every other drop prices+rates

Disagree... Honda sales drop by 10% last month while toyota sales went up by almost 30%... and hyundai sales went up by 40something percent... i think 0% financing + rebate works better than cash incentive...
So honda Canada finally lowers the MSRP on Civic, Accord, CRV, etc on 2010 model... but still they are overpriced...

freewheel
Nov 21st, 2009, 06:35 PM
any incentives on the Odyssey or Pilot?

Ran 2010 Pilot EX-L on Carcost. $3000 factory to dealer incentive.

mavvee
Nov 21st, 2009, 08:55 PM
Ran 2010 Pilot EX-L on Carcost. $3000 factory to dealer incentive.

Anyone ran a carcost on a 2009 or 2010 odyssey lately?

ciao
Nov 21st, 2009, 09:09 PM
2010 DX Odyssey (incl. freight and PDI, A/C tax) $31,003
2010 SE Odyssey (incl. freight and PDI, A/C tax) $36,268

You likely won't find any 2009 Odysseys out there

mike_for_fun
Nov 24th, 2009, 05:56 PM
Ciao, are you able to do same for 2009 and 2010 Genesis V6 with Tech package?

Thanks

Mike

drunkgoat
Nov 26th, 2009, 09:26 PM
Has anyone ran a carcost on a 2010 insight lately?

freewheel
Nov 27th, 2009, 01:36 PM
Ciao, are you able to do same for 2009 and 2010 Genesis V6 with Tech package?

Thanks

Mike

You may have more luck in the Hyundai thread.
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/09-hyundai-discount-0-financing-687497/66/

bingo_jake
Nov 29th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Ran 2010 Pilot EX-L on Carcost. $3000 factory to dealer incentive.

Is this additional to the $3000 cash purchase discount on honda.ca?

what would be the OTR cost (Cash purchase) for a 2010 Pilot EX or EX-L (no extra options)?

Thanks

freewheel
Nov 29th, 2009, 05:56 PM
Is this additional to the $3000 cash purchase discount on honda.ca?

what would be the OTR cost (Cash purchase) for a 2010 Pilot EX or EX-L (no extra options)?

Thanks

I think that is the same $3000.

According to CCC the invoice price including shipping and air tax is

$42,883.00, from this you subtract $3000, then add 3% profit, $41,079 plus any dealer prep and tax. I think in Ontario you are looking at min. \$46,419 \OTD.

Anyone have a different experience?

I'm hoping for a bigger rebate later in the year.

ferkel
Nov 29th, 2009, 06:04 PM
Honda just ruined their resale values by lowering their price... scumbags Honda!

d4ve
Nov 29th, 2009, 06:06 PM
Last year I picked up a 2009 EX-L Pilot and during Boxing Day "Week" sale they had $5000 cash back with cash purchase. I was able to get another couple off as well.

Rehan
Nov 29th, 2009, 06:10 PM
$42,883.00, from this you subtract $3000, then add 3% profit, $41,079 plus any dealer prep and tax. I think in Ontario you are looking at min. \$46,419 \OTD. I don't know about the Pilot, but for the Odyssey APA's pricing is $750 above invoice. For a 2010 Odyssey SE, that's 2.16% over the invoice cost and you also get $0 admin fee.

Don't bother with any 3%-over-invoice kind of "rule of thumb"... Pay a few bucks for a dealer quote through APA or CCC, which will better reflect the market situation.

freewheel
Nov 29th, 2009, 06:13 PM
Last year I picked up a 2009 EX-L Pilot and during Boxing Day "Week" sale they had $5000 cash back with cash purchase. I was able to get another couple off as well.

If I could get it for $44,000 OTD, I would be tempted. 2006S with 60,000km seem to sell for $28-$29 thousand (much cheaper in the US)
My old car is still running fine, so I can play the waiting game.

freewheel
Nov 29th, 2009, 06:15 PM
I don't know about the Pilot, but for the Odyssey APA's pricing is $750 above invoice. For a 2010 Odyssey SE, that's 2.16% over the invoice cost and you also get $0 admin fee.

Don't bother with any 3%-over-invoice kind of "rule of thumb"... Pay a few bucks for a dealer quote through APA or CCC, which will better reflect the market situation.

Thanks for the info Rehan, I'll be sure to get an APA quote prior to buying.

freewheel
Dec 1st, 2009, 11:49 AM
Judging by the recent Canadian sales numbers I think there are more discounts to come:

Toyota Canada Inc. vaulted into the top spot in the monthly auto maker sales rankings in November for the first time ever, preliminary numbers released Tuesday show.
With a gain of 26 per cent from year-earlier levels, Toyota posted its best November on record with sales of 16,112 vehicles.
...........

Sales fell 4 per cent for Honda Canada Inc.

2k7mazda6
Dec 3rd, 2009, 12:49 PM
Anyone run a carcost on a 2010 CR-V LX 2wd? Thank you

mavvee
Dec 3rd, 2009, 12:51 PM
I'm just waiting for the 2009 Honda Odyssey to have some good incentives to clear stock. I called a dealership today and they said the incentives are a measly $2500 compared to last years 7-9K incentives!