GUAARON is a scammer, do not respect his own deal

[aikrimoi]

I should have taken over his bell mobiliyt contract for his lg rumour phone and he should have paid me 100$ for it too. But after one week of emailing him to get paid, he is ignoring my messages and ask me to relax.

DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS USER, I HOPE MODERATORS CAN BAN HIM FROM THIS FORUM

[phomp]

how did he scam you? What did you lose out of this deal?

Come on, provide more info. IMO, it appears you have not been scammed and you have not even been attempted to be scammed.

[GUAARON]

exactly... buddy takes over contract on friday... i mailed it out monday... EXPRESS i might add so that there was a tracking number and he's still bitching... what am i supposed to do about that? and i get the threat of police complaints and bad feedback on the forums cause buddy is impatient... the guy at canada post said the package would get there on wednesday... if its not there today, theres not a whole lot i can do about it...

[GUAARON]

i even gave the guy my phone number...

[GUAARON]

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[Jon Lai]

exactly... buddy takes over contract on friday... i mailed it out monday... EXPRESS i might add so that there was a tracking number and he's still bitching... what am i supposed to do about that? and i get the threat of police complaints and bad feedback on the forums cause buddy is impatient... the guy at canada post said the package would get there on wednesday... if its not there today, theres not a whole lot i can do about it...

It's okay, some people are just new to the whole BST thing.

[phomp]

you both left eachother feedback and the transaction is not even finished.:lol:

[movieSTAR]

u have a -1. wat a bad scammer

[b0xy]

Looks like you supposedly added a "Will pay you $100 to take the contract off my hands" to the deal? :|

Maybe just a misunderstanding on OP's part, he doesn't seem to have a great grasp of english anyway.

[GUAARON]

money paid... the guys just being a fool...

[FerrisB]

That sucks. Is there any way to get this idiots neg. feedback removed?

OP, you are no so smart :lol:

[FlintBlade]

That sucks. Is there any way to get this idiots neg. feedback removed?

OP, you are no so smart :lol:

Ya, just ask a moderator. Preferably NSX, that guy is a great moderator. As long as the feedback is clearly unjustifiable, it can and will be removed.

[GUAARON]

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[Toasterdude]

Mods should delete this thread because clearly Guaaron is not a scammer!

[aikrimoi]

the deal was I take over the contract and he shipped me the phone ( I received wednesday ) and he should have paid me 100$

he deleted his thread form the bst forum with this offer now this is the private messages we exchange and where guaaron accept the 100$ by interac email money transfer :

you've been paid your due... i don't know what your problem is... i'm finished dealing with this... its not worth my time...

I have tried to be nice but you do not respect your deal which was I take over your contract and you give me the phone and 100$.

I have waste enough time your bill got paid to take over and enough time running after the 100$.

A negative feedback will be given to you and a police and grc complaint also be filled for fraud by tomorrow if you do not pay me my due

regards


what?

so you put the 100$ in the parcel cash ?


i mailed everything yesterday... maybe you should relax... i gave you your tracking number and told you they estimated wednesday... you have no grounds to reverse the contract to me...

I am not very happy with this deal as I never received the 100$ as promised if I do not get this money by the end of the day I will reverse the contract to you

this is one week I took over

sorry i was out of town for a couple days...
canada post tracking number: 0102772000094637
they said it would be there by wednesday

I would appreciate a quick reply and the payment of 100$ and a tracking for the phone, this is my 3rd request since I took over


well however long it goes thanks for being understanding... I'll nag them until they make things happen

it is up to 5 business days usually 3 days so I guess call them every day and let me know

I hate banks... ok so according to bell it might take a couple more days for the payment I made on saturday to go through... is it ok if I just let you know when it has gone through? I suppose I could just call them up daily... sorry about that...

your line can not be transfered until you pay the last bill of 150$, let me know when it is done

any progress?

I called bell yesterday at 6 and it was closed so I will call them tomorrow morning to finalize the transfer

good sunday

the note is on the account... phone number is (519)***-0639... so you just call in and say you are transferring ownership of an account with that phone number and they will ask your name(which i've already given them)... then I need your email address and mailing address...

I can do it tonight let me know when my name is added

you will need to ship the phone to montreal

sounds good... where would you like me to send the phone?
I'm going to phone Bell as soon as I have dinner and I'll send you another message on here... keep in mind that it's time sensitive... I think they give you 48 hours before I have to call in again and tell them you're taking it over...

call bell and add a note with name to take over Carl Sancartier and let me know when it is done by email

I will need the name and cell phone number of the contract

also leave me your home phone number to call you when the transfer will be completed

for the 100$ you can pay me with interac email money transfer, like this it will be on my bank account instantly

regards


sorry I've been crazy busy lately... give her a shot again... ill be around

I tried to call you but your voicemail is not set up

ok my number is 519***6390 ask for aaron

montreal and toronto

first where are you from?

what is the number where I can reach you ?

any questions? i think the biggest thing is that we have to arrange the contract takeover with bell before anything else can be done... i've done it before with an older phone, its pretty simple... i just call them to tell them you are going to take it over, then you have to call in as well and they will do a credit check and when that's taken care of i'll get confirmation from them and we can meet and make the exchange...

I am interested

[aikrimoi]

money paid... the guys just being a fool...

money has never been paid it is the whole point of my complaint here

if money has been paid where is the interac email money transfer link you sent me ?

I filled a complaint with rcmp yesterday

[FerrisB]

Hmm, might have to retract my statement.

Seems Guarron didn't feel like paying the $100 he promised? Any proof that it was paid?

[GUAARON]

only a $40 bank receipt... sorry guys... if its not paypal its cash... and obviously since the deal was done i didn't think it was an issue... then this guy starts complaining he didnt get his money before he even got the package... if he treats financial information half as well as he treats phone numbers on forums im glad i deal in cash... ps i reported that post... id be really happy if someone would remove the phone numbers from the previous post...

[GUAARON]

thanks mods

[GUAARON]

also... i deleted all my threads except for my active ones because i got a couple PMs about a computer that I sold 6 months ago... sorry... im sure if the mods want they can look back on cached ones and see that the 100$ was included in the deal...

[FerrisB]

only a $40 bank receipt... sorry guys... if its not paypal its cash... and obviously since the deal was done i didn't think it was an issue... then this guy starts complaining he didnt get his money before he even got the package... if he treats financial information half as well as he treats phone numbers on forums im glad i deal in cash... ps i reported that post... id be really happy if someone would remove the phone numbers from the previous post...

So you're saying there was $100 cash in the package you sent?

[GUAARON]

ya... im actually getting kinda pissed that this is still ongoing... i'll let you guys deal with this... apparently i should be expecting rcmp knocking on my door at any moment...

[aikrimoi]

there was no money in the parcel ( not even a parcel, he put my address directly on the phone box )

so it looks like someone got busted, I can remove my complaint if I get paid my due

Guaaron you need to keep your words with this 100$

[FerrisB]

there was no money in the parcel ( not even a parcel, he put my address directly on the phone box )

so it looks like someone got busted, I can remove my complaint if I get paid my due

Guaaron you need to keep your words with this 100$

The plot thickens...

[aikrimoi]

so can someone remove my negative feedback as Guaaron scammed me

[Jon Lai]

so can someone remove my negative feedback as Guaaron scammed me

No because none of us can verify anything.

It's still your words versus his.

[darkpurpose]

I don't think GUAARON is completely innocent here as I am starting to have my doubts. Seriously, who the hell sticks 100 bucks cash in a package and ships it.

[FerrisB]

I don't think GUAARON is completely innocent here as I am starting to have my doubts. Seriously, who the hell sticks 100 bucks cash in a package and ships it.

Yes, and then avoids the question and refuses to talk about it any more to defend his name. Starting to sound more and more like he decided not to honour the deal.

[aikrimoi]

the deal was 100$ with interac email money transfer if you read at the private messages I exchange with him. This is at the end me who asked him if he added the 100$ in the parcel as I never received any interac email money transfer money.

This guy never sent you any proof of this payment so I guess someone can remove his feedback, when you are innocent you try to defend yourself not giving up easily like he did.

Do you really think I would waste my time with this if I would have got paid ?

I thought this feedback thing was here to show the good people and the bad people and I look like a bad guy after taking over a contract, I am sorry to tell you your feedback score does not make any sense

[Jrawk]

Yes, and then avoids the question and refuses to talk about it any more to defend his name. Starting to sound more and more like he decided not to honour the deal.

Sounds like it.

The OP mentioned it 4 times in his PM's to GUAARON, but GUAARON did not once acknoledge the payment that was supposed to be made, and when the OP asked if the money was sent in Cash with the phone, GUAARON responded "what?"

I'm with the OP on this one. Looks like GUAARON didn't send the money and didn't intend on it from the get go.

[Kommander_KornFlakes]

money paid... the guys just being a fool...

I don't think so buddy, you have NOT paid crap all. I don't think Akrimoi would still be here complaining if you indeed sent him the money, when was the last time you ever saw someone making a negative thread against another guy after a successful & smooth transaction? Why would he do that?

You have the brains of a bird GUAARON, pay up the money or get slammed.

[Rubedizzle]

I agree, Guarron, I would suggest you pay the $100, as things can, and will likely get worse very soon.

[GUAARON]

You have the brains of a bird GUAARON, pay up the money or get slammed.

...:cry:

I agree, Guarron, I would suggest you pay the $100, as things can, and will likely get worse very soon.

i highly doubt things are gonna get worse... this is why im not contributing to this thread any further... its my word against his... i really dont have anything else to add...

[GUAARON]

oh but thanks for the advice... unfortunately i dont intend to spend $200 + express shipping + give the guy my 6 month old phone... that would be a pretty sweet deal for OP though wouldnt it? I'll let you know if things get much worse very soon though

[nite4evr]

Nobody's stupid enough to stick CASH into a phone box and mail it.

It's so obvious who's right here.

A little off-topic here,
I have a unnecessary feedback that's under neutral.
There was no transaction made between the 2 people, how can he leave unnecessary feedback like that? Is it possible you can remove it for me? Thanks!

[GUAARON]

Nobody's stupid enough to stick CASH into a phone box and mail it.


you assume far too much

[GUAARON]

but im betting thats exactly what the OP is thinking...

[Rubedizzle]

...:cry:



i highly doubt things are gonna get worse... this is why im not contributing to this thread any further... its my word against his... i really dont have anything else to add...


Aaron, if your making claims that you actually sent money in the package, and he is stating he never received the money, then why not, to prevent yourself from being accused, actually contact Canada Post, and start an investigation as to what happened. You have made no attempt to resolve this issue, and from the messages sent, and from what you have stated, you were supposed to send the money via paypal but you decided to send it as cash in a package you say he received, which was also the same package that he got the phone in. You have done nothing but made yourself look worse.
Why would you send cash in the mail? You'd be better off sending the money western union.....

And yes things can get worse, if you do not pay, the original poster has every right to take further action. You did not hold up to your bargain, so either take the contract back and he'll send you the phone back, or pay the $100 dollars. Seeing as you were trying to get out of a contract, your probably better off giving him the $100 and being done with it.

[Rubedizzle]

you assume far too much

You're not helping your case Guarron...

I hope you realize your mistake.

[Kommander_KornFlakes]

oh but thanks for the advice... unfortunately i dont intend to spend $200 + express shipping + give the guy my 6 month old phone... that would be a pretty sweet deal for OP though wouldnt it? I'll let you know if things get much worse very soon though

So you are admitting that the OP already got a sweet deal and you will not send him the $100? Okay mods, this case is closed, Guarron admitted to being a shameless liar and scam artist.

[Majinvegeta]

you assume far too much

I have read every post and every PM sent, you clearly avoided him when he asked about the $100.

You have admitted that the $100 was part of the deal. You later say that the deal is already "sweet" since he got a phone and your contract.

So according to this information it seems clear that you don't want to give him the $100, even though that was part of the "contract" between you and him. So according to law, you had a legal binding contract in writing (so he can sue you for it).

If you are innocent, be more detailed because so far you are looking like a complete fool. Everyone here is trying to be helpful, but you clearly are not wanting to provide complete information!

If you are innocent, then spill the beans, did you pay aki the $100? if so, HOW? you were constantly responding and giving us screen shots with proof of shipment. So why don't you show proof of payment?

The Private Messages and your original thread for this sale can be used against you in court, I have studied business law so I would know. As long as its in writing, its easy for Aki to win this case.

Oh and if you're wondering why someone would go to court over $100? trust me, some people will. And I encourage Aki to do so, sure the lawyer will have to be paid.

But Aki will get the choice of either reversing all this crap that has happened to the way he was BEFORE this transaction occurred, or to complete the transaction (which means you pay him the $100). And not only that, since this will be an easy case, Judge will be very likely upset since you didn't feel like completing your part of the bargain that he will make you pay the bills not only for YOUR lawyer, but for AKI's lawyer too!

So honestly, stop wasting time and just pay the $100, there's a lot less to lose that way.

[GUAARON]

you guys see what you want to see obviously... i clearly said above that i refuse to pay TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS... the deal was $100... if i were to send him $100 as everyone is suggesting, then i would be paying him $200... that would be a pretty sweet deal... agreed? are we all on the same page now?

[GUAARON]

the only thing i avoided was sending money through online banking... no i didnt tell him i was sending cash until after but i sent him cash... why did i send him cash? because i dont trust anyone on here... why? because i dont know you... thats why if i were selling you something, i would want the money first before i sent anything out... ive only ever dealt through paypal which imho is much more secure than any of this... i guess ive learned my lesson on this one...

[Majinvegeta]

you guys see what you want to see obviously... i clearly said above that i refuse to pay TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS... the deal was $100... if i were to send him $100 as everyone is suggesting, then i would be paying him $200... that would be a pretty sweet deal... agreed? are we all on the same page now?

Umm we were taking YOUR side initially when this situation began, since then Aki has provided more information and proof to put you down and you've been running around the question most people have been asking.

So stop avoiding the question, you sent the $100 to Aki? how? was it through the mail in the same packaging? or through paypal? or through EMT?

And if it was sent by mail in the same package as the phone, then Aki states he did not receive it. In which case you should talk to Canadapost to resolve this issue.

[GUAARON]

and yes i realize anything is more secure than cash in a box... but i mean i sent the guy a phone in a phone box and the phone made it there... i dont believe for a second that he didnt get the money...

[Canada_7]

and yes i realize anything is more secure than cash in a box... but i mean i sent the guy a phone in a phone box and the phone made it there... i dont believe for a second that he didnt get the money...

So did you send the money WITH the phone? Simple yes or no.

[GUAARON]

sorry... ya it was in a folded envelope inside the same box as the phone

[Majinvegeta]

sorry... ya it was in a folded envelope inside the same box as the phone

Good,

So now we're on a standstill again. Guaaron says he sent the $100 with the phone in a folded envelope and Aki says he didn't get the money but did get the phone.

There is no proof either which way to say who is right and who is wrong. In fact both sides could be telling the truth and the money could have been taken from within the box.

I guess at this point, if you did insure the item, you could start a dispute with CanadaPost about this.

Anyone else have any suggestions?

[jvaf]

Good,

So now we're on a standstill again. Guaaron says he sent the $100 with the phone in a folded envelope and Aki says he didn't get the money but did get the phone.

There is no proof either which way to say who is right and who is wrong. In fact both sides could be telling the truth and the money could have been taken from within the box.

I guess at this point, if you did insure the item, you could start a dispute with CanadaPost about this.

Anyone else have any suggestions?


I think OP is lying becuase he knows, Guarraon sent him the money in the envelope in the phone box. So THERE IS NO PROOF (Online transaction via one's bank account - Date/Time/Occurrence?) that he even sent the money.. I think dude is trying to cash in.. get double the money..

Who knows.. This is the classic example you take over a contract from someone trustworthy, decent and In your own damn City..

[GUAARON]

Making a Claim

In order to file a claim the following conditions must be met:

1. A claim for a failed guarantee delivery standard can only be filed 48 hours after expected delivery date and within 15 business days.
2. A claim for a lost item may only be submitted after 15 days and within 90 days of the shipping date for domestic shipments.
3. Only the shipper/sender can file a claims request.
4. A claim can only be filed for services which have a tracking #.

The customer must provide reasonable particulars in support of a claim, including the following documentation:

1. Proof of mailing showing coverage
2. Proof of postage and, if applicable, additional liability coverage obtained and paid
3. Proof of value such as a copy of invoice, or other information acceptable to Canada Post showing proof of senders cost, repair cost, depreciation value, replacement value, of any of the items being claimed
4. Any non-recoverable provincial sales tax

To initiate a claim request the customer must contact Canada Post’s Customer Service group online or by telephone at 1-888-550-6333 or 1-866-607-6301.

i dont really know what to do with that? anybody have any suggestions? i dont know that this would even be legit because I have no idea if OP got it or not... this has all gotten very screwed...

[hugh_da_man]

Did the OP sign up just to buy the phone?

Looks really suspicious that a guy signed up on January 2nd and was already buying stuff off the bst.

That and he was adamant about the money and threatened calling the police and everything right away?

I don't think Guarron is the scammer but he's certainly not smart in this deal. Always use some trackable way when dealing with cash. Also, how come none of the PMs have Guarron saying that he sent $100 cash in an envelope...that's the first thing I'd tell the buyer.

If I had to guess OP is trying to double up his money or create a reason for reversing the contract and keeping the phone (and money he probably received).

[akirika]

there should be a bst rule:

all trades must be done by members who can write in comprehendable english

[GUAARON]

Also, how come none of the PMs have Guarron saying that he sent $100 cash in an envelope...that's the first thing I'd tell the buyer.


it was in an envelope but the envelope was in the box...

[fastlayne]

it was in an envelope but the envelope was in the box...

And that was your mistake! The Post Office is going to laugh at you when you try to open a claim for missing cash.

But really nobody believes that you put the cash in the box!

You agreed to send via e-mail transfer. Stop your scamming and send the money.

[FerrisB]

And that was your mistake! The Post Office is going to laugh at you when you try to open a claim for missing cash.

But really nobody believes that you put the cash in the box!

You agreed to send via e-mail transfer. Stop your scamming and send the money.

I have to agree. The most telling fact was when he dodged the question about the money over and over again. He deletes his for sale post and then only claims he sent cash in the box after the OP asks if that's what he did instead of the agreed money transfer and then confirmed that there was no money in the box when he received it.

[Rubedizzle]

this has all gotten very screwed...

Exactly, and it wouldn't have occured if you paid via a trackable method. You know that unfortunately the tracking on the package does not protect you regarding the money. Regardless of whether or not you actually sent the money, it's a bad situation, and if he goes further with this, he has the proof that you sent the phone, not the money.

If you did actually pay him, it's unfair for you to be getting this treatment from us, but realize that you have not done anything to actually resolve the issue, both privately or publicly, so hence the treatment your getting. I would suggest contacting Canada Post regardless, you need to make an effort to resolve this, or else he has everything he needs to take further action.

I am sorry if you did actually send the money, but even then, you have no proof of it, only of the phone being sent, and the contract being taken over, the $100 was part of the deal via the messages, so either you cut your losses and take the phone/contract back, or pay him the rest of the money. That is unless you can resolve it some other way!

[mcg]

He's probably just making the story up as we go along.

I mean, who wouldn't mention those things right at the get-go to clear things up with the buyer? I call BS.

[fastlayne]

He's probably just making the story up as we go along.

I mean, who wouldn't mention those things right at the get-go to clear things up with the buyer? I call BS.

Right, it took how many posts in this thread before he came up with the "I put the money in the box" story. Double BS.

[GUAARON]

if its not paypal its cash... and obviously since the deal was done i didn't think it was an issue... then this guy starts complaining he didnt get his money before he even got the package...

was that vague?

[aikrimoi]

no envelop in the box, stop lying please

as soon as I received the parcel I check and only the phone

anyway I filled another complaint on www.phonebusters.com yesterday

I am waisting my time I guess but scammers can not win all the time

and you were talking about this 40$ receipt at the beginning.

when we exchange private message I asked you at last if you put the 100$ cash in the box and you said no and I should relax.

Getting a criminal record for 100$ and being banned from a forum does not worth it I think.

I could have get a curve or instinct for 0$ at bell so do you think I am stupid enough to take a free rumor with a bad plan only ?

try to fix the problem instead of lying

[aikrimoi]

I was complaining before I got the package because you should have paid me with interac email money transfer the same day I took over, it took 4 business days to received the package and everyday I was sending you some message to know when you would pay me with emt

[spazzamatic]

there should be a bst rule:

all trades must be done by members who can write in comprehendable english

no envelop in the box, stop lying please

as soon as I received the parcel I check and only the phone

anyway I filled another complaint on www.phonebusters.com yesterday

I am waisting9/b0 my time I guess but scammers can not win all the time

and you were talking about this 40$ receipt at the beginning.

when we exchange private message I asked you at last if you put the 100$ cash in the box and you said no and I should relax.

[b]Getting a criminal record for 100$ and being banned from a forum does not worth it I think.

I could have get a curve or instinct for 0$ at bell so do you think I am stupid enough to take a free rumor with a bad plan only ?

try to fix the problem instead of lying

I was complaining before I got the package because you should have paid me with interac email money transfer the same day I took over, it took 4 business days to received the package and everyday I was sending you some message to know when you would pay me with emt

:cheesygri:cheesygri

i'm with OP on this one.
i read through the entire thread. Seller seems shady.
no seriously.. WHO THE HECK SENDS CASH ?!?!? and stop using paranoid as an excuse.
Paypal is super safe. I mean come on, being the seller you already gave your phone number to the buyer. What is the buyer going to do with your paypal email? hack your account?!

Just email transfer the money already. If you didn't want to fork up 100 bucks you shouldn't have offered it.

And op, you were impatient the ENTIRE time. It was only a WEEK, the dude said he was going to send it and yada. You go and call the police, rcmp etc etc

was it necessary? Do that AFTER you receive the package, not before.

[Jon Lai]

:cheesygri:cheesygri

i'm with OP on this one.
i read through the entire thread. Seller seems shady.
no seriously.. WHO THE HECK SENDS CASH ?!?!? and stop using paranoid as an excuse.
Paypal is super safe. I mean come on, being the seller you already gave your phone number to the buyer. What is the buyer going to do with your paypal email? hack your account?!

Just email transfer the money already. If you didn't want to fork up 100 bucks you shouldn't have offered it.

And op, you were impatient the ENTIRE time. It was only a WEEK, the dude said he was going to send it and yada. You go and call the police, rcmp etc etc

was it necessary? Do that AFTER you receive the package, not before.

+1

Seems like both sides are pretty n00b to this BST thing :lol::lol:
And the seller keeps saying that we "assume" things. I'm wondering if he bought a money order or something but can't describe what it was :lol::lol:

[porphyra]

I am sorry, but if you send CASH through mail, then you are totally responsible for it. Who does that in today's day and age?

Even if you did put it, and the buyer did receive it and claims otherwise, its basically your word against his. But since you were stupid enough to send the cash that way, you are responsible for $100 to the buyer, even if it means you get shafted for $200.

That way you will learn your lesson!

[GUAARON]

Paypal is super safe. I mean come on, being the seller you already gave your phone number to the buyer. What is the buyer going to do with your paypal email? hack your account?!


its actually kinda funny... i usually would use paypal but i've been getting emails the last couple months telling me i have limited account access because my account has been compromised... and it took until just now for me to realize that they are phishing emails... im a dork...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GUAARON
i mailed everything yesterday... maybe you should relax... i gave you your tracking number and told you they estimated wednesday... you have no grounds to reverse the contract to me...

Quote:
Originally Posted by aikrimoi
so you put the 100$ in the parcel cash ?

Originally Posted by GUAARON
what?

when i said everything i meant EVERYTHING... when i said what? it was because what you said made no sense... it still seems poorly worded even now that i know what you meant...

[GUAARON]

and you were talking about this 40$ receipt at the beginning.


the 40$ reciept(which i dont have anymore but it would still be in my online banking statements) came up when someone asked if i had proof i had sent cash... it was 40$ because i had 60$ on me... essentially meaning i have no proof... and how could i... i didnt think this would turn into anything... i figured at first you were just being impatient... but I DID send the money... obviously if i had to do it all again there would be substantial paper trail... but ive traded a phone contract before in cash(in person though) and there wasnt an issue... and ive sold things on here before without ever having problems...

[aikrimoi]

ok I ask the mods to remove me the negative feedback guaaron gave me and ban this guy.

the agreement was interac email money transfer since first pm and guaaron accepted the deal and never paid me. so we have reach 5 pages in this thread and guaaron try to come back with some stories with envelop and 100$

if you would have done it, I guess the simple thing would have been to send me a private message saying : ''hey man, finally I put the 100$ in the parcel, thank you for taking over my contract'' instead of that you have been rude with me what a nice thank you

[GUAARON]

ok I ask the mods to remove me the negative feedback guaaron gave me and ban this guy.

the agreement was interac email money transfer since first pm and guaaron accepted the deal and never paid me. so we have reach 5 pages in this thread and guaaron try to come back with some stories with envelop and 100$

if you would have done it, I guess the simple thing would have been to send me a private message saying : ''hey man, finally I put the 100$ in the parcel, thank you for taking over my contract'' instead of that you have been rude with me what a nice thank you

seriously you want a thank you? it doesnt sound like thats what you've been looking for... but in any event thanks... wish i could say its been a pleasure doing business with you but obviously that ship has sailed...

[lemailme]

i love it when FOBs try and do deals with each other.

/racism

[ultimate_rugal]

OP is little bit impatient but may be b/c he was expecting $100 at the time of contract transfer. i don't think there is anything wrong with it.

for the GUAARON,

1. he was claiming at one point that the week old phone itself is more than valuable for the contract
2. not answering to the question until now if he sent the money in the percel? however as far as i understand they had PAYPAL payment agreement.
3. Clearing out his own thread containing "$100 will be added on top".
4. We have never seen the $40 receipt that he's claiming.
5. pathetic excuses at the end also makes it more suspicious that he in fact never send any money.

BUT HERE'S THE GOOD NEWS FOR OP

one of my friends have had similar situation. You need to file a report with proper documentation (email,percel info etc) and collect the report number. then call ph# provider that it was a fraudulent agreement. give them the report and an investigation will happen. it'll take about 10 business days, you'll be informed. at the end however, you have to send the phone back to the seller and retain the receipt & Tracking. once he receives the phone call back to your provider and they'll reverse the contract. you'll loose the shipping cost but it's better than loosing $100.

you can then report back to mod and he'll likely remove your negetive feedback b/c of the fact that nobody would do such long procedure unless get paid.

GOOD LUCK

[Rubedizzle]

seriously you want a thank you? it doesnt sound like thats what you've been looking for... but in any event thanks... wish i could say its been a pleasure doing business with you but obviously that ship has sailed...

Guarron, quit being a jerk, pay him.

[thechampion116]

looks like aki should just follow the plan provided by Rugal. Thats the best course of action.


GUAARON clearly scammed you. You did mentioned EMT in the agreement for the deal and GUAARON continued to ignore it even to this point. After multiple posts in this thread, he finally claims that he put $100 in an envelope inside the phone box. It took him one too many posts to clearly respond to a simple question.

[darkpurpose]

+1

Sorry GUAARON, don't buy your story.

[phomp]

+1

Sorry GUAARON, don't buy your story.

+2. You should send the money the way that was agreed.

[Rubedizzle]

Any updates OP??

Has Guarron paid you yet?

[aikrimoi]

no money received from guaaron yet

I am wondering how come he is not banned yet and how come I still have a negative bst feedback here

[HockeyGirl]

from what i see your bst feedback is back to 0....

[mcg]

From the PM's already given out it's clear what GUAARON's intention was.

[aikrimoi]

this message is for guaaron, I will give you up to february 12th 2009 to pay me the 100$ you owe me for the agreement we had.

[phomp]

this message is for guaaron, I will give you up to february 12th 2009 to pay me the 100$ you owe me for the agreement we had.

and then what? :confused:

[aikrimoi]

and then what? :confused:

moderators asked me to give a deadline date to pay me so I guess they will ban him after if he does not pay me

[hamant]

you assume far too much

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So you're saying you're stupid enough to do that?

HAHAHA

[hamant]

this message is for guaaron, I will give you up to february 12th 2009 to pay me the 100$ you owe me for the agreement we had.

just post his info man...
adress/ phone number, whatever...

[tyl2ant]

just post his info man...
adress/ phone number, whatever...

I don't see any point in Op posting his information here unless you feel that one of us are going to hunt him down and do something to him?

[Kommander_KornFlakes]

I don't see any point in Op posting his information here unless you feel that one of us are going to hunt him down and do something to him?

We need to know who he is so if he changes nick after he is banned and tries to make a deal with us we will recognize his phone number/address.

[murdoc2k]

wow.. a very long thread indeed. I did take the time to read every single post.

Most of the people have made the points very clear. Although GUAARON has 2 positive feedbacks his actions indicate that he is suspicious.

The main argument is that he hasn't provided any physical proof of payment of any form even the $40 he claim he sent via paypal.

I would also like to add that paypal is not by any means the "safest" way to send money as I've learned from a seller that there are tricks you can use to scam people using paypal.

The best way would've been direct interact transfer as they've agreed or a simple EMT transfer which would provide sufficient evidence that he is not lying.

Although OP questioned him many times via PM about the $100 he seems to ignore them and not once did he mention about the money until pages 2-3 and beyond.

OP I hope you get your money back.

[thePenetrator]

why is this place so opinionated just because he chose to put cash in a box instead of doing it my electronic means?

i mean if he didn't respond to the 100$ its because he probably thought that the buyer would see the cash in the box and that the buyer was nagging him so he was just easing off and not on his dick to buy it because the transaction was already going down.

give the seller the benefit of the doubt, nevertheless, i dont think ANYTHING can be done towards both of them because there's no sufficient proof to go against any one of them. guaaron cudve put the cash in the box and sent it, aki could've received it and said he didn't to get an extra 100$.

rcmp threats and all that crap are just empty threats, rcmp isnt gonna come knocking on your door because someone supposedly took 100$ from you. you file a complaint, that's it.

now if it was some armed robbery or just plain robbery in person, that's a different story.

and i know what im talking about, i'm a security guard and part of the Armed Forces and will be joining the York Region Police Dpt in a year or so.

[Rubedizzle]

and i know what im talking about, i'm a security guard and part of the Armed Forces and will be joining the York Region Police Dpt in a year or so.

Not surprised.....

[mcg]

lol, and he's banned... loser :D

[1ton]

lol, what happened to him? but anyways..any luck op?

[FerrisB]

and i know what im talking about, i'm a security guard and part of the Armed Forces and will be joining the York Region Police Dpt in a year or so.

"in a year or so" Sounds like one of those wanna be cops that always dreams of writing speeding tickets but ends up getting old and fat working security and harassing kids at the local mall.

[xinhang]

I see GUAARON has stopped posting. I hope next time you post, you would stop using "...".

[phomp]

moderators asked me to give a deadline date to pay me so I guess they will ban him after if he does not pay me

Oh, fair enough I thought you meant something else.:lol:

[Killer~Socks]

I would also like to add that paypal is not by any means the "safest" way to send money as I've learned from a seller that there are tricks you can use to scam people using paypal.




What Kind of Tricks?

[LeeBoA]

also... i deleted all my threads except for my active ones because i got a couple PMs about a computer that I sold 6 months ago... sorry... im sure if the mods want they can look back on cached ones and see that the 100$ was included in the deal...

Just from reading those emails back and forth, I can tell you're lying GUURAN

[phomp]

well he is banned....

[McLaren__F1]

well he is banned....

Who is?

[greenkiwee]

Who is?

that guy GUARRON.

well, that was a good read.

even though i know not to deal with the people, not within the area.

[8Fun8]

and i know what im talking about, i'm a security guard and part of the Armed Forces and will be joining the York Region Police Dpt in a year or so.

I can see why you are banned from here. There are always three sides to a story/complaint. The complainants/accussed/and the truth.

You are a security guard stick to your guard duties and good for you to be part of the Armed Froces, if you really are part of them God Bless and keep up the job.

Leave LE duties to actual LEO. BTW leave YRP out of this as you are not even a member there yet.