09 hyundai discount + 0% financing

[deano43]

Looking at purchasing a 2nd car, thinking should I go the used car route, no or very little warranty left or buy new and take a big hit as soon as I drive it off the lot. I can get in a 09 Elantra L auto taxes in for 16450 and 0% financing for 36 months, $457 pm with 0 down. Elantra seems to get pretty good reviews out there and I havent checked the civic lately but Im looking at 5grand more for one.

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

[Engi-Nir]

wrong forum, should be in
Motor Vehicles & Accessories

[originalnutta]

post moar!

idiot.

[Derek]

Want to make sure we get this straight before it gets posted. You can get any of these cars on that page at the 'Smart to Buy' price and get 0% financing at the price. If so, unless I'm missing something, that's very hot for some of these vehicles.

[Pragmatic]

Wow! Seems like a great deal!

<Ponders trade in values>

[juggie]

Off topic i have a 07 Elantra (the first year of the new model) and i love it besides the lack of an ipod hook up/aux jack in the stereo its been perfect for me. Fairly reasonable on gas as well. Being able to get the cash discount price AND finance at 0% is a pretty hot deal so far as i'm concerned. I wonder however if the cash discount applies to all trims of a given model or just the specific one listed.

[juggie]

Looking at purchasing a 2nd car, thinking should I go the used car route, no or very little warranty left or buy new and take a big hit as soon as I drive it off the lot. I can get in a 09 Elantra L auto taxes in for 16450 and 0% financing for 36 months, $457 pm with 0 down. Elantra seems to get pretty good reviews out there and I havent checked the civic lately but Im looking at 5grand more for one.

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

op,

I switched from a 02 Civic to a 07 elantra (i did not like the new look/dash of the civic) and i've been totally satisfied.

[juggie]

In the 'fine print' it would seem the cash discount is only available on specific trims (all the manual transmissions)

[xpat]

not sure on what the requirements are for the 0% financing, but if there's no hidden catch then it's a great deal. hyundai has made great strides in building quality vehicles. i may not like everything about their cars but it's hard to beat some of the prices, especially with 0% financing -- no reason to buy used if you can get a new car with warranty.

[elty]

Well, after you add in all the auto, ac, freight and tax and all that, is it that hot anymore?

[diddy321]

Well, after you add in all the auto, ac, freight and tax and all that, is it that hot anymore?

Am I wrong or isn't 'Delivery and Destination Incl' basically freight and pdi included in that price?Otherwise the prices don't seem to add up, for the Sonata they list a starting price of $23,560, but the most basic Sonata is only $21,995.... so I imagine all you have to add is ~ $1000 for auto, plus tax.

I drove the '09 Sonata a few months ago, was pretty impressed with it. I'd imagine this is a Hyundai rebate to the dealer, so you could probably negotiate further on the cars?

[dgs]

On the question of residuals - think about the situation in 4 years time say - current improved reliability that Hyundai is starting to get a reputation for becomes an accepted and feeds into residuals on existing used stock, plus the big 3 are no more or have significantly upped their game and their prices, meaning no more cheap new cars and better residuals for quality used vehicles.

This deal looks a much better offer than the GM and Chrysler ones posted here right now.

[Nanodollars]

On all the Santa Fe Models you get the $3k price adjustment and the 0%. This includes the models with auto like the LIMITED AWD.

[Sinoed]

I learned to drive in an Elantra about 10 years ago and thought it was a great little car back then! I always thought it would be nice car to own and I'm sure they've improved it a bit in ten years.. ;) Hyundai has come a LONG way in terms of quality and reliability - my sister has a four year old Tiburon that has been rock solid. The one thing to consider though is that consumer confidence in Hyundai hasn't improved as much as the cars themselves have - so they don't hold their value as well as say a Honda or Toyota. If this is a car you're going to buy to drive until the wheels fall off, don't look back, but if you plan on trading it in later the trade in values aren't spectacular. The Elantra gets excellent reviews though - if you take a look at reviews for used '07's or '08's (09 is too new) they're very good: http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/elantra/2007/consumerreview.html?tid=edmunds.u.crrindex...1.Hyu ndai*

[G0AT]

Off topic i have a 07 Elantra (the first year of the new model) and i love it besides the lack of an ipod hook up/aux jack in the stereo its been perfect for me. Fairly reasonable on gas as well. Being able to get the cash discount price AND finance at 0% is a pretty hot deal so far as i'm concerned. I wonder however if the cash discount applies to all trims of a given model or just the specific one listed.

I have an 08 Elantra that I picked up in the summer at 0% financing. No catch. The car is all that and a bag of chips (where the chips in the 08 include an AUX jack). The car doesn't have a the jump of the Mazda3, but is a much more solid, comfortable ride. The interior is very clean and classy. Well designed all around. My buddy has an 08 and an 09 Corolla, and those cars get slightly better gas mileage than the Elantra, but they both have a very light, cheap feel to them as you drive or even just sit in them. I can't comment on reliability of the Elantra of course, but based on the word from all the "experts", it looks very positive.

Recommended.

[Prof]

I really like the update on the 09 Sonata. The interior is far better than last year and the subtle exterior updates are nice. Heated seats too. That said, while it compares well against its competition, I would look at it only if there was a cost advantage against the Asian comparables. The 2010 Camry arrives in a couple of months and will be worth a look. I agree with the poster that Hyundai is poised to take a stronger opinion in the minds of car buyers. They simply have a very good product.

Anyone bought a Sonata? What kind of deal off list were you able to get?

[TheFinalWord]

How quiet is the ride in the Elantra? I have a 00 Ford Focus and it is so loud that I've decided the next car I buy will be much quieter.

[Justpete]

I have an 08 Elantra that I picked up in the summer at 0% financing. No catch. The car is all that and a bag of chips (where the chips in the 08 include an AUX jack). The car doesn't have a the jump of the Mazda3, but is a much more solid, comfortable ride. The interior is very clean and classy. Well designed all around. My buddy has an 08 and an 09 Corolla, and those cars get slightly better gas mileage than the Elantra, but they both have a very light, cheap feel to them as you drive or even just sit in them. I can't comment on reliability of the Elantra of course, but based on the word from all the "experts", it looks very positive.

Recommended.

What's your monthly payment, if you don't mind me asking? and how much was due on delivery?

[rahzel]

I also though highly of Hyundai's alleged recent strides in quality until a friend had problems with her newer Accent's transmission (just over 100,000kms). Google "Hyundai" and "transmission problems" and you'll see what I mean. It cost her over $2000 since the car is just out of warranty. Is Hyundai's quality really improving? I personally wouldn't take the risk on this company quite yet.

[Sinoed]

On google, Number of results:

"Pontiac Transmission problems" - 494,000
"Hyundai Transmission problems" - 511,000
"Chrysler Transmission problems" - 523, 000
"Toyota Transmission problmes" - 538,000
"Honda Transmission problems" - 569,000

Ummm.. better than the imports everyone loves.?? Transmission problems are usually for specific vehicle lines & assemblies which you can easily find via used car reviews and reports at places like Edmunds.com. You can also go into any garage that has an estimating system like Mitchell and ask them to check out the number of recalls or technical service bulletins that have been issued for a particular model and year. Its common sense, but models that have been around for while, like Elantras have fewer problems because they've had a bit of time to work out the bugs. On the other hand, new ones (Chevy Cobalt comes to mind!) are notoriously bad for the TSB's and stuff that have been issued.

Anyways, it doesn't matter what you buy, transmission work is horrendously expensive. I bought a Toyota Rav4 because they're supposed to be amazing for not having these problems - well mine did. Ever heard of a transmission job that takes 20hours AKA THREE days? Yup.. around 4G's later.. :( It happens.. Check out reviews and stuff specific to Elantras before you decide.

[conan]

On google, Number of results:

"Pontiac Transmission problems" - 494,000
"Hyundai Transmission problems" - 511,000
"Chrysler Transmission problems" - 523, 000
"Toyota Transmission problmes" - 538,000
"Honda Transmission problems" - 569,000

Ummm.. better than the imports everyone loves.?? Transmission problems are usually for specific vehicle lines & assemblies which you can easily find via used car reviews and reports at places like Edmunds.com. You can also go into any garage that has an estimating system like Mitchell and ask them to check out the number of recalls or technical service bulletins that have been issued for a particular model and year. Its common sense, but models that have been around for while, like Elantras have fewer problems because they've had a bit of time to work out the bugs. On the other hand, new ones (Chevy Cobalt comes to mind!) are notoriously bad for the TSB's and stuff that have been issued.

Anyways, it doesn't matter what you buy, transmission work is horrendously expensive. I bought a Toyota Rav4 because they're supposed to be amazing for not having these problems - well mine did. Ever heard of a transmission job that takes 20hours AKA THREE days? Yup.. around 4G's later.. :( It happens.. Check out reviews and stuff specific to Elantras before you decide.

By looking at your numbers and considering the fact that both honda and toyota sell way more cars than hundai, I would say that it does seems that Hundai has more transmission problem than the other two.

[Mepoor]

hyundia vehicles seem to have poor overall mechanical longevity... and friends had an 2004 elantra and all the symbols on the power window buttons and mirrors buttons wore off within two years and the black paint of other parts of the car wore off like the door open handles... IMHO very cheap cars... their vans are poorly rated by mechanics after the 5yr warranty expires, everything seems to fail... maybe things have changed but unless you plan to sell the vehicle before thr 5yr warranty ends then stay I'd stay away...

[MikeyP]

I also though highly of Hyundai's alleged recent strides in quality until a friend had problems with her newer Accent's transmission (just over 100,000kms). Google "Hyundai" and "transmission problems" and you'll see what I mean. It cost her over $2000 since the car is just out of warranty. Is Hyundai's quality really improving? I personally wouldn't take the risk on this company quite yet.

When did Hyundai jump to 5yr/160,000km warranty?
Back on topic my local Hyundai Dealership is showing 0% financing on the $9,995 Accent L, $11,995 Elantra L or $17,995 Sonata L for 36 months, 2.9% financing for 60 months on the cash purchase prices. Looks like they are just for the base models. I think it's like just around $200/month for the Accent over 60 months purchase.

[Electone]

If you go to their website, you'll see that the discounts apply to all models. Financing rates above 36 months are very reasonable as well. I'm looking at trading my 07 Accent Hatch for the 2009 Accent Sedan GL Auto. It will get me air, pw, pl, pm, at, etc. List is $16,700 less $2600 discount = $14,100. Take off my trade, and I'm looking at a nice upgrade for very little $$$.

As far as all the quality nay-sayers are concerned, I've owned 4 Hyundais so far: 95 Accent, 01 Accent, 99 Elantra, 07 Accent. The only one that was troublesome was the 99 Elantra but most of these issues were dealt with under warranty.

These cars are all about value.

[dangb]

I really like the update on the 09 Sonata. The interior is far better than last year and the subtle exterior updates are nice. Heated seats too. That said, while it compares well against its competition, I would look at it only if there was a cost advantage against the Asian comparables. The 2010 Camry arrives in a couple of months and will be worth a look. I agree with the poster that Hyundai is poised to take a stronger opinion in the minds of car buyers. They simply have a very good product.

Anyone bought a Sonata? What kind of deal off list were you able to get?

I bought one in October '08 when they were running $4K off list as a factory incentive. I got the dealer to take another almost $2K off in cash. This was on a 09 Sonata Limited 4 cylinder.

[G0AT]

What's your monthly payment, if you don't mind me asking? and how much was due on delivery?

I got the 08 Elantra GLS, so its Auto, with heated seats, cruise control, etc. Its not the base L model. My monthly payment is $393 over 60 months, with nothing down. Taxes, delivery, etc. are all included in that monthly payment.

[Pr0metheus]

great deal OP. just bought a kia or i would be on this deal.

[Tha_Doggg]

My last Accent had around 360,000km before I decided to retire it (clutch went and I decided it was not worth it to repair since the car had so many kms). I never had any problems with it. I had to change the clutch twice I believe and the muffler (expected for so many kms). Very reliable car.

[superdsi]

Times are tough in the auto industry.

My girlfriend and I have 2 Hyundai Elantras.

Great cars.

They are very close to Honda, Toyota in quality.

The Detroit (Gov. Owned 3) deserve their fate for turing out crap for

twenty years.

Chrysler will be broke up,sold and GM will be in bankruptcy by mid year.

[jumbojones]

You can get a used 2008 Elantra GLS with 50K Kms for $12,888, a 2009 on their web site is $24,260. That's quite the depreciation rate for one year.

[superwell]

I test drove a 08 elantra a while back and I think that the quality has come a long way since the pony. For the bang for the buck priciple....you can't go wrong with 0% over 5 years anyway...doesn't cost you anything to drive it...5 years later..get rid of it and o it all over again.

Oh..btw..for the honda and toyota fans....here is a run down on my cars I have owed : 1990 pontiac sunbird...bought in 1994 used...no problems..if anyhting is was more reliable then the next car I bought....
2001 honda prelude, bought brand new, 2 tranny issues for 5th gear grind...and oil burning issue that was the death of the car, as I spun a bearing. and now I own a 2001 honda crv which has been just perfect also....so as you can see..no matter what you buy and from who...it's a matter of what model you get and was it made on a friday at 3pm..either EST or PST :P

[Busiu]

I've always owned Honda Civic's, but when one got crushed last spring I did some comparison shopping and found that the '08 Elantra was the best value car on the market. This was just before Consumer Reports announced the USA model of the Elantra as the best small sedan of '08.

I picked up a GL-manual from Hyundai of Mississauga. This dealership accepted my offer with extras (Mudguards and Window Tint). All in (Tax, freight, licensing) the car cost $18100. I also noticed afterwards that they don’t charge the $350+ licensing/registration b.s. fees that other dealerships charge.

After almost a year of driving, I’m very satisfied with the car. It’s better than any Civic that I’ve ever owned. The fit & finish are great and the interior and features are more than you can ask for, from a car in this price range. I believe that the interior room also competes with the Accord. I never saw the necessity for heated seats, overkill in my mind, but I’ve really learned to appreciate the feature during this winter. The one beef that I do have is that the stock all-season Hankook tires are the worst I’ve ever experienced for winter driving. Winter tires are a must for next year. Otherwise, I’d recommend this car to anyone.

[skanji]

I have a 2002 Elantra - had it from day one - 160,000km, and no problems with it...still going strong. I purchased it due to the 0% interest over 4 years. Been VERY happy with my purchase - 7 years later!

I am picking up a 2008 Santa Fe GLS tomorrow. The only thing that would have been better would be to have purchased this a year ago (or so) from the US...the car is very safe compared to its competitors and is fully loaded (sunroof, leather, heated seats, gps, etc...)

[Nanodollars]

I have a 2002 Elantra - had it from day one - 160,000km, and no problems with it...still going strong. I purchased it due to the 0% interest over 4 years. Been VERY happy with my purchase - 7 years later!

I am picking up a 2008 Santa Fe GLS tomorrow. The only thing that would have been better would be to have purchased this a year ago (or so) from the US...the car is very safe compared to its competitors and is fully loaded (sunroof, leather, heated seats, gps, etc...)

Can I ask what you paid? I am considering the Santa Fe but my wife if partial to the CR-V......

thx

[superwell]

Can I ask what you paid? I am considering the Santa Fe but my wife if partial to the CR-V......

thx

yes I am interested also.

[jonathanq]

My wife and I bought a 2006 Elantra GT in 2006. It was the last year of the "hatchback" Elantra model. We loved it, great car. We just traded it in a few weeks ago and upgraded to a 2008 Hyundai Veracruz Limited.

We just decided it was time to move to a bigger vehicle for the future. Nothing against our Elantra - just wanted an upgrade.

We got it on 0% financing for 72 months. Our Elantra was purchased with their Future Value financing (0.9% - 60/84 term). I don't recommend the Future Value Finance option if you plan on trading in the car in a few years, since your payments are lower - you don't pay down the loan as fast and it takes longer to get any equity in the car.

Depreciation is always a concern - when you drive it off the lot it costs you money. But on the other hand, we got a car with absolutely no interest charges and it's covered on warranty for 5 years/100,000. We purchased an extended warranty through our dealer to make it an 8 year/160,000 warranty. If we don't use the extended warranty, the full amount gets refunded at the end of 8 years.

All in all - I am very happy with Hyundai! Everyone that has seen our Veracruz is amazed at the quality of it - it's on par with many of the high end brands. Looks a lot like a Lexus or Acura from the outside.

[G0AT]

You can get a used 2008 Elantra GLS with 50K Kms for $12,888, a 2009 on their web site is $24,260. That's quite the depreciation rate for one year.

50K is a lot for one year. Mine has less than 12K in almost 8 months.

[Acuratl]

50K is a lot for one year. Mine has less than 12K in almost 8 months.

agreed, thats about 3 years of driving done in a year, it would kill the depreciation of any car

[Billa-786]

I really like the update on the 09 Sonata. The interior is far better than last year and the subtle exterior updates are nice. Heated seats too. That said, while it compares well against its competition, I would look at it only if there was a cost advantage against the Asian comparables. The 2010 Camry arrives in a couple of months and will be worth a look. I agree with the poster that Hyundai is poised to take a stronger opinion in the minds of car buyers. They simply have a very good product.

Anyone bought a Sonata? What kind of deal off list were you able to get?

We have an 09 sonata amongst our cars. Car gets poor mpg when compared to competition. Car has no soul. Having said that, its interior is roomy and feels solid. Seats can a bit more comfy but perhaps they need to be broken into. So far it has been a good point A to B family car. Just wish i could get better than 11-12l /100km. My 10 year old Stratus gets 10l/100 km and both are 4 cyl. Folks shop around, if you enjoy driving keep this car at the bottom of your list. BUt if you have a family and on a budget, this should be up there.

[Prof]

We have an 09 sonata amongst our cars. Car gets poor mpg when compared to competition. Car has no soul. Having said that, its interior is roomy and feels solid. Seats can a bit more comfy but perhaps they need to be broken into. So far it has been a good point A to B family car. Just wish i could get better than 11-12l /100km. My 10 year old Stratus gets 10l/100 km and both are 4 cyl. Folks shop around, if you enjoy driving keep this car at the bottom of your list. BUt if you have a family and on a budget, this should be up there.

What kind of mileage does the car have? I've read that Hyundai's can take 5-8k before the engines breaks in and gas mileage improves. According to CR, the Sonata has "impressive" fuel consumpsion. The Toyota's I've owned have been excellent but a Camry is going to be $5K more and street rate financing.

[skanji]

Can I ask what you paid? I am considering the Santa Fe but my wife if partial to the CR-V......


The CR-V is much smaller than the Santa Fe. The comparison with the CR-V is more closer linked to the Tuscon.

[jumbojones]

50K is a lot for one year. Mine has less than 12K in almost 8 months.By that rate though it would be worthless at 100K.

[johnsa]

Does anyone know what the discount / bottom line is on a 2008 or 2009 entourage WITH the 0%?

[dangb]

We have an 09 sonata amongst our cars. Car gets poor mpg when compared to competition. Car has no soul. Having said that, its interior is roomy and feels solid. Seats can a bit more comfy but perhaps they need to be broken into. So far it has been a good point A to B family car. Just wish i could get better than 11-12l /100km. My 10 year old Stratus gets 10l/100 km and both are 4 cyl. Folks shop around, if you enjoy driving keep this car at the bottom of your list. BUt if you have a family and on a budget, this should be up there.

I drive a 4 cyl 09 Sonata which I am just rolling onto 10 000 km and I get on average 7.3~7.8 L/100km. Even when it was brand new I never got worse than high 8's.

I agree that it isn't ridiculously fun to drive (coming from a Saab 9-5 Aero), but to me a car is a tool to get me to work and back. It's peppy enough to pass at highway speeds and at no point have I felt like the car was underpowered.

[G0AT]

By that rate though it would be worthless at 100K.

That's not how depreciation works though.

[juggie]

I have an 08 Elantra that I picked up in the summer at 0% financing. No catch. The car is all that and a bag of chips (where the chips in the 08 include an AUX jack). The car doesn't have a the jump of the Mazda3, but is a much more solid, comfortable ride. The interior is very clean and classy. Well designed all around. My buddy has an 08 and an 09 Corolla, and those cars get slightly better gas mileage than the Elantra, but they both have a very light, cheap feel to them as you drive or even just sit in them. I can't comment on reliability of the Elantra of course, but based on the word from all the "experts", it looks very positive.

Recommended.

I'm not a tremendous music person so burning 700megs of mp3's to a cd suits me just fine, though there are times when a aux jack would come in handy. That is however my only complaint, i could easily rectify it with an aftermarket stereo but i just dont care that much.

[ianou]

If you can pay cash, why not buy a German Saturn Astra for like $1,000 more?

Driving a Korean car is kinda gay, just IMO.

[dreadknot69]

If you can pay cash, why not buy a German Saturn Astra for like $1,000 more?

Driving a Korean car is kinda gay, just IMO.

Thanks for that, you made me LOL. Both at your comment, and your maturity.

[Justpete]

Thanks for that, you made me LOL. Both at your comment, and your maturity.

well, he does have a point though.

;)

[jtkv]

well, he does have a point though.

;)

What point does he have?

Not everyone likes the Astra... I personally hate the dashboard of the Astra5 and dislike the cramp drivers cabin (although the passenger cabin is very roomy).

The Elantra is a much nicer car, IMO. I am waiting for the Elantra Touring to come out...

jtkv

[superdsi]

Consumer Reports and LemonAid recommend the Hyundai Elantra.

My girlfriend and I own one. Bulletproof.

I forsee lots of mechanic time for the Astra.

GM will be dropping Saturn. They have no choice.

[Justpete]

What point does he have?

Not everyone likes the Astra... I personally hate the dashboard of the Astra5 and dislike the cramp drivers cabin (although the passenger cabin is very roomy).

The Elantra is a much nicer car, IMO. I am waiting for the Elantra Touring to come out...

jtkv

Are you new to the internets?

";)" means "take my last statement with a grain of salt". (read: I was kidding) sigh. read: means (this is what I really meant)

[rysx]

does anyone have any inside scoop as to when this deal ends?

typically the incentives coming from manufacturers runs through saturday but is it this saturday or next ...etc

[Billa-786]

What kind of mileage does the car have? I've read that Hyundai's can take 5-8k before the engines breaks in and gas mileage improves. According to CR, the Sonata has "impressive" fuel consumpsion. The Toyota's I've owned have been excellent but a Camry is going to be $5K more and street rate financing.

Well here's hoping you are right.....I have around 7000kms on mines and so far the mpg is nothing to write about. I rarely see it below 10l /100 km unless I am doing heavy highway kms. Could be also due to winter.
You should check out the new mazda 6 aswell. I have the older generation and its a hoot to drive. The main reason we got the hyundai was because of the deal we got on it. The car can be slow off the mark, but the auto shifter can take care of that if you really need the push. Handling is a bore on this car. Sometimes I wonder if this car was built to compete solely with the camry. Because there it definitely shines.

[G0AT]

Well here's hoping you are right.....I have around 7000kms on mines and so far the mpg is nothing to write about. I rarely see it below 10l /100 km unless I am doing heavy highway kms. Could be also due to winter.
You should check out the new mazda 6 aswell. I have the older generation and its a hoot to drive. The main reason we got the hyundai was because of the deal we got on it. The car can be slow off the mark, but the auto shifter can take care of that if you really need the push. Handling is a bore on this car. Sometimes I wonder if this car was built to compete solely with the camry. Because there it definitely shines.

Winter is a major factor. My 08 Elantra got in the low 7's in the summer, and now gets in the high 9's for the same usage.

[laptop-tech]

http://www.travelphoto.net/photos/pictures/australia/i30.jpg

[redrum77]

Well sign me up as a gay Korean car driver now!

I have both a 95 Mitsubishi 3000GT sports coupe and now a 270hp 6-speed 2007 Toyota Camry SE V6... but the Toyota (my winter car) is at the dealership, so they got me a rental, first they gave me a Ford Freestar... holy crap was I ever pissed, like I'm going to drive a Ford Minivan for a week, I literally felt like throwing up just thinking about it, the damned thing doesent even fit in my garage... so today I managed to upgrade to a Hyundai Accent, oooweee now we're rolling.... At least give me a Genesis damnit!! Those incompetent mechanics at Toyota better get their **** together, cuz they broke my fuel line, they better not break anything else. I didn't buy a Toyota to drive a Ford or a Hyundai.

Yes I'm somewhat bitter, and this is off topic... :\

[E39S62]

Well here's hoping you are right.....I have around 7000kms on mines and so far the mpg is nothing to write about. I rarely see it below 10l /100 km unless I am doing heavy highway kms. Could be also due to winter.


Even in the coldest of winter I got 7.5l/100kms in my Corolla in 50/50 mixed driving

Just rented a Chevy Aveo with an auto for a week and it got a crappy 10l/100 in the same 50/50 driving

Even funnier, my previous car with a honking 4.4 litre V8 sedan with a manual trans gets 11.0 in the same conditions. 1 litre worse than you and I had 300 hp to play with :lol:

[Justpete]

Well sign me up as a gay Korean car driver now!

I have both a 95 Mitsubishi 3000GT sports coupe and now a 270hp 6-speed 2007 Toyota Camry SE V6... but the Toyota (my winter car) is at the dealership, so they got me a rental, first they gave me a Ford Freestar... holy crap was I ever pissed, like I'm going to drive a Ford Minivan for a week, I literally felt like throwing up just thinking about it, the damned thing doesent even fit in my garage... so today I managed to upgrade to a Hyundai Accent, oooweee now we're rolling.... At least give me a Genesis damnit!! Those incompetent mechanics at Toyota better get their **** together, cuz they broke my fuel line, they better not break anything else. I didn't buy a Toyota to drive a Ford or a Hyundai.

Yes I'm somewhat bitter, and this is off topic... :\

yeah, that sucks. That sounds like that time I had to get my 300Hp Infiniti G35 2dr Coupe 6MT fixed and they tried to give me a Mitsubishi, then a Toyota.. I was like "WTF WTF forget about it" and left. And then I was like "I didn't by an Infiniti to drive a Toyota or a Mitsubishi."

talk about off-topic!

;)

[lanslord]

Does the deal apply to Santa Fe GLS? It only says GL on the flyer.

[gordholio]

does anyone have any inside scoop as to when this deal ends?

typically the incentives coming from manufacturers runs through saturday but is it this saturday or next ...etc

With the state of the car industry, this deal could be on for some time or if not, it will be repeated, or maybe even better deals will come.

[redrum77]

yeah, that sucks. That sounds like that time I had to get my 300Hp Infiniti G35 2dr Coupe 6MT fixed and they tried to give me a Mitsubishi, then a Toyota.. I was like "WTF WTF forget about it" and left. And then I was like "I didn't by an Infiniti to drive a Toyota or a Mitsubishi."

talk about off-topic!

;)

Baha you sound like going from an Infiniti to a Toyota/Mitsubishi is a downgrade...

Hey I saw Hyundai on the headline and I'm driving a Hyundai, thats about as relevant as I'm ever going to get on this thread... I had to vent somewhere cut me some slack!!

On a somewhat more related note, I saw the Genesis in person and it looks fairly promising, I like how they decided to not put a Hyundai emblem on the front, what a bold statement lol! Just curious cuz I was hoping I would get something closer to my own car and was wondering if anyone had anything to say about the Genesis.

[rysx]

Does the deal apply to Santa Fe GLS? It only says GL on the flyer.

its $4000 off for the Santa Fe 2.7 GL MANUAL only
$3000 off for any other Santa Fe

[Prof]

Even in the coldest of winter I got 7.5l/100kms in my Corolla in 50/50 mixed driving

Just rented a Chevy Aveo with an auto for a week and it got a crappy 10l/100 in the same 50/50 driving

Even funnier, my previous car with a honking 4.4 litre V8 sedan with a manual trans gets 11.0 in the same conditions. 1 litre worse than you and I had 300 hp to play with :lol:

The 03 Corolla I used to own was simply amazing on gas. The worst highway tank I had in the 5 years I drove it was 46mpg. Very stiff headwind at 120k. Most tanks were 48-50 and I saw 53 more than once. In some ways it's alot like the comments about the 09 Sonata, not too exciting but easy to live with and dependable.

Camry/Sonata = Betty
Mazda6/Altima = Veronica:cheesygri

[redrum77]

The 03 Corolla I used to own was simply amazing on gas. The worst highway tank I had in the 5 years I drove it was 46mpg. Very stiff headwind at 120k. Most tanks were 48-50 and I saw 53 more than once. In some ways it's alot like the comments about the 09 Sonata, not too exciting but easy to live with and dependable.

Camry/Sonata = Betty
Mazda6/Altima = Veronica:cheesygri

Hey I liked Betty lol....

Maybe this is more accurate

Camry=Betty
Mazda6/Altima = Veronica
Sonata=Ethel

:P

[Derek]

Thank you... it's posted:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/alldeals/comments/hyundai_deals_w_0_financing_accent_9995_elantra_11 995_sonata_18995

I drove a 2007 or 2008 Elantra rental. It was last year in a snow storm and I was driving it for over 6 hours straight. It performed much better than I expected it to and was fairly comfortable for the 6+ hours. That's all the experience I've got with Hyundai's though.

[nato]

With the positive reviews for the Elantra, i think im starting to really consider it.

the "build-a-Elantra" option on the website for a Elantra GS (auto) came out to be $17,290.00 not including tax yet and with no additional accessories.

Is there still negotiating with this deal? and if so how much lower can they go without pushing it too far?

and hows the insurance on this car, i know honda civics are rather expensive.

[superdsi]

Is there still negotiating with this deal? and if so how much lower can they go without pushing it too far?

Car Dealers are on their Knees right now. A little kick in chops will get a better deal.

Repeat after me. DEALERS ARE SCUM.

My girlfriend could buy a car now. She has an Elantra and wants another one.

I will ask for a couple more dollars off, oil changes for life, replace those terrible tires on the Elantras, nice floor mats and maybe a free month.

All they can say is no.

Once I get the best deal I will try to leverage it again.

Then I will call Mohammed at CarHelp Canada (CP24 Sunday Night Car show) and pay him $50 to get a better deal.

Unless the dealer gives me free oil changes I will never see them again.

[HumDunno]

Camry=Betty
Mazda6/Altima = Veronica
Sonata=Ethel

:P

ROFL :lol::lol:

[Camilo]

Sorry for the off-topic, but with so many people talking about and owning Elantras here, I thought I might ask.

I'm buying a 2008 Elantra from an auction through a delaer (33000km) and I've found out he doesn't think that they have all the oil change records.

I've called Hyundai and they said it MIGHT be an issue with warranty in the future if there's an engine problem as I won't be able to prove the car has had proper maintanance during its life.

Can anyone that owns an Elantra tell me if the warranty card mentions anything about this?

Should I back out from this deal if he can't provide the oil change records?

Thanks...

[Stock R]

Tempting!

My winter beater is about to bite the dust... Wonder what the best price on an accent would be...

[superwell]

Sorry for the off-topic, but with so many people talking about and owning Elantras here, I thought I might ask.

I'm buying a 2008 Elantra from an auction through a delaer (33000km) and I've found out he doesn't think that they have all the oil change records.

I've called Hyundai and they said it MIGHT be an issue with warranty in the future if there's an engine problem as I won't be able to prove the car has had proper maintanance during its life.

Can anyone that owns an Elantra tell me if the warranty card mentions anything about this?

Should I back out from this deal if he can't provide the oil change records?

Thanks...


If it makes it easier to decide....I have been told and I don't believe it as I have done many of own repairs on my cars..but I have been told that even if you miss lets say the brake cleaning service that is recommened and then your engine dies...they may give you issues...why? I am not sure as one doesn't have anything to with the other, but in their eyes you are not following the "recommended" schedule....so they can refuse to fix anyhting based on anything they want. I would say that IF and that is a big IF, you concerned and you don't do any work on your own cars..and the price is OK..then don't bother to buy this car...look around, you may get the same deal on forums or autotrader...with warranty and all paper work.

[superdsi]

I'm buying a 2008 Elantra from an auction through a delaer (33000km) and I've found out he doesn't think that they have all the oil change records.

That is only 19000 miles.
I would not be too worried if they did not have all of the oil records.

I am older than the regular person on RFD. I have owned a few cars.
A warranty up to 100,000 km is provided by the car company because it costs them little to provide.

I bought a used Elantra with 30,000 km on it.
I never did one servicing on it. Now is has 145 000 on it and runs perfectly.
Service is a ripoff. I put synthetic oil in it and change it every 20-25,000 km and never had any problems.

It surprises me on RFD the youngsters are so worried about their warranty so they do all the servicing which costs many thousands of dollars so on the 1% chance they may need warranty service before 60,000 miles is up.
It is a big waste of money. My last car had 350,000 km on it when the kid I sold it to smashed it up, the engine still ran great with synthetic oil changed every 25 000 and absolutey no maintenance. (other than brakes, tires).
I have never changed the antifreeze, or any fluids other than oil.

If girlfriend buys a new Elantra with this deal I will never see the dealership again.

[BinaryJay]

If it makes it easier to decide....I have been told and I don't believe it as I have done many of own repairs on my cars..but I have been told that even if you miss lets say the brake cleaning service that is recommened and then your engine dies...they may give you issues...why? I am not sure as one doesn't have anything to with the other, but in their eyes you are not following the "recommended" schedule....so they can refuse to fix anyhting based on anything they want.

This is not true. In order to refuse warranty service based on missing recommended scheduled service they have to prove that the part that has broken that is in question is somehow related to the service that you neglected to provide.

[tienm23]

As far as I can tell, these prices do not include freight and PDI...

[Justpete]

Sorry for the off-topic, but with so many people talking about and owning Elantras here, I thought I might ask.

I'm buying a 2008 Elantra from an auction through a delaer (33000km) and I've found out he doesn't think that they have all the oil change records.

I've called Hyundai and they said it MIGHT be an issue with warranty in the future if there's an engine problem as I won't be able to prove the car has had proper maintanance during its life.

Can anyone that owns an Elantra tell me if the warranty card mentions anything about this?

Should I back out from this deal if he can't provide the oil change records?

Thanks...


This is standard operating procedure for ALL automobile warranties. If you don't follow the regular maintenance, they have the right to refuse warranty service on the vehicle for engine problems.

So, you're basically saving money that could potentially cost you the same, if not more, in the future, if there's an engine problem, and if they refuse to repair it under warranty because you can't prove that the car's been maintained.

I'd advise strongly against it, unless you can get them to guarantee that the warranty will be honoured under any circumstances. You'd be taking a *huge* risk.

[leoben]

i was thinking of vehicles such as vw rabbit, honda civic, mitsubishi lancer.. but with this current promotion i am leaning towards an elantra.. do you think on top of $3500 discount for elantra GLS and $500 graduate rebate program, i can get some more discount if i do a cash purchase rather than financing/leasing? with taxes and everything 09 elantra GLS is coming out to be a bit more than 20k..

[Prof]

i was thinking of vehicles such as vw rabbit, honda civic, mitsubishi lancer.. but with this current promotion i am leaning towards an elantra.. do you think on top of $3500 discount for elantra GLS and $500 graduate rebate program, i can get some more discount if i do a cash purchase rather than financing/leasing? with taxes and everything 09 elantra GLS is coming out to be a bit more than 20k..

Using cars4u.com as a guide, their price is 18,747 inc delivery plus fees but including air tax and fuel tax (Ontario tax?). Add to that so called registraion fees and deduct grad rebate.

Breakdown is
Total Basic Vehicle: $20,595.00
Discount: ($368.00)
Rebate: ($3,000.00)
cars4U.com Price: $17,227.00
Freight: $1,345.00
PDI: $0.00
Air Tax: $100.00
Fuel Tax: $75.00
Net Vehicle Price: $18,747.00

Seems like you could do a bit better than that but it shows that deals are possible. Funny thing is, Hyundai's website says 3500 rebate so you're looking at 18,200 less grad rebate.

[bizzyseller]

What are the terms of the Grad Discount?

[leoben]

What are the terms of the Grad Discount?

500$ off on selected models..

so when i built my elantra gls it came out to be:

original $20,595.00
less $3,500.00 (discount)
plus $1,495.00 (delivery/destination)
plus $175.00 (other taxes and levies)
$938.25 (gst)
$1,501.20 (pst)
=
$21,204.45 (total vehicle price)

now i am not sure if i take $500 off this total vehicle price for grad rebate but hopefully i can get it down to $20k or even further by offering cash purchase

one thing that concerns me about smaller hyundais are their poor crash test rating..

[iwells]

we own an accent and so for it's been a great little car.

Only issue we had:

wish it was more powerfuly, stop go can be painfull
fuel economy (only does about 300kms winter, and 400summer) with 35l tank of gas

other than that it's pretty good for a 2001..wound consider another

[bizzyseller]

500$ off on selected models..

so when i built my elantra gls it came out to be:

original $20,595.00
less $3,500.00 (discount)
plus $1,495.00 (delivery/destination)
plus $175.00 (other taxes and levies)
$938.25 (gst)
$1,501.20 (pst)
=
$21,204.45 (total vehicle price)

now i am not sure if i take $500 off this total vehicle price for grad rebate but hopefully i can get it down to $20k or even further by offering cash purchase

one thing that concerns me about smaller hyundais are their poor crash test rating..

Do you have to be a recent grad? For example, all recent grads within the past year are eligible?

Hyundais have very good crash ratings. For example, the Hyundai Entourage (ie: Kia Sedona) was rated #1 in crash safety (iihs.org) since the newest model came out (2006). For the Elantra and Tuscon, make sure you opt for the side impact air bags as they make a huge difference in the ratings.

The Entourage, Santa Fe, and Sonata all come standard with dual fronts, front side torso, and front/rear side curtain bags.

[G0AT]

500$ off on selected models..

so when i built my elantra gls it came out to be:

original $20,595.00
less $3,500.00 (discount)
plus $1,495.00 (delivery/destination)
plus $175.00 (other taxes and levies)
$938.25 (gst)
$1,501.20 (pst)
=
$21,204.45 (total vehicle price)

now i am not sure if i take $500 off this total vehicle price for grad rebate but hopefully i can get it down to $20k or even further by offering cash purchase

one thing that concerns me about smaller hyundais are their poor crash test rating..

The GLS has front, side, and curtain airbags, which greatly increases crash safety. I'm amazed they haven't made these features standard on all Elantra trim levels.

[juggie]

Do you have to be a recent grad? For example, all recent grads within the past year are eligible?

Hyundais have very good crash ratings. For example, the Hyundai Entourage (ie: Kia Sedona) was rated #1 in crash safety (iihs.org) since the newest model came out (2006). For the Elantra and Tuscon, make sure you opt for the side impact air bags as they make a huge difference in the ratings.

The Entourage, Santa Fe, and Sonata all come standard with dual fronts, front side torso, and front/rear side curtain bags.

The GLS and Limited Elantra also have 6. I got into a accident (t-bone) style collision with my 2006 Elantra (last year of the old model) I had front airbags only and the drivers side one deployed. The accident was 100% a 16 year old girl drivers fault, she made a left turn across oncoming traffic after someone gave her a break. The road was 2 lanes in my direction, center lane and a right hand turning lane which had 2 exits (an esso and a strip mall) before ending at the light. Anyways long story short, the car preformed exactly as it should accident wise, i was doing about 55-60, air bags deployed and besides the car written off, i was totally fine.

[juggie]

I should add Off topic, for anyone who buys a new car, make sure you have the special protection on your Insurance for the negative value of your financing.

Eg, you buy a hyundai for 22,000, you drive it off the lot and put 20,000km on it, at this point its worth about 15k resale, but its only a year old so you've only paid off about lets say 6000 of your loan. End result is your car is worth 15k but you owe 16k on your loan. If your insurance doesnt have the special clause, you'll get book value (15k) from your insurance company and be on the hook 1000 to pay off the rest of your loan. This is obviously not a good situation! So be sure if you think about picking up a new car from this deal or at ANY time you make sure you add this to your insurance. With most insurance companies this covers your negative value for the first 2 years of your ownership.

[originalnutta]

I'm hoping Toyota, Nissan, Pontiac, Chevy follow suit.

I'd like a small economy hatch for as close to $10k as possible with 0%.

Here's dreaming. :cheesygri

[jchan1985]

so are you guys looking at the Elantra or Sonata at this point?
the Sonata GL looks pretty good compared to the Elantra GLS or Limited no?

was very tempted to get an '08 Elantra GL Sport MANUAL...but I found out it didn't have side and side curtain airbags!!!!

Currently looking at
Elantra GLS (automatic...)
Sonata GL
and thinking about a Mazad3 or Pontiac Vibe

any suggestions on other cars to look at??

[sonypcs]

Usually an Auto-maker buys these financing program at a cost so that they can do 0 % for the owners. Few months ago, many auto makers are only willing to sacrifice MSRP - Cash Back if you are willing to PAID by cash or DIY Financing thru your line of credit or credit card.

However, I believe Hyundai in South Korea really needs business and they did not get any BAILOUT money like those BIG 3 does, so, they are now advertising MSRP - Cash Back - 0 % Financing to attract or stimulate people to buy their cars. I suspect that Hyundai is losing money for every car they sell but its a good way to move their inventory off their lots...

I am sure the BIG 3 will not do these crazy deals because they already finished their show at the congress and they will let those cars piled on the lot....

Personally I liked the Elantra as they has changed alot from the last time I went to see them at the dealer since 2006. The Sonata is an excellent car too in compare to Camry or Accord. I am not the fan of Accent because my body size.

[gordholio]

we own an accent and so for it's been a great little car.

Only issue we had:

wish it was more powerfuly, stop go can be painfull
fuel economy (only does about 300kms winter, and 400summer) with 35l tank of gas

other than that it's pretty good for a 2001..wound consider another

Yeah, I have a 2000 Accent. It's good when you get it up to speed, but starting off, it's not the fastest, but it is good enough for me.
Gets 43 mpg Imperial in the summer easily.
I was tempted to get the new 2009 Accent with this deal if I get a part-time job (I'm on disability), but I think I'd rather not have payments for 4 years.
My current Accent is all paid off, so I'm ahead of the game.

[gordholio]

I'm hoping Toyota, Nissan, Pontiac, Chevy follow suit.

I'd like a small economy hatch for as close to $10k as possible with 0%.

Here's dreaming. :cheesygri

The way the economy is going (and will continue to falter for a while), I'm sure other cars will have great deals in the next while.

[bizzyseller]

so are you guys looking at the Elantra or Sonata at this point?
the Sonata GL looks pretty good compared to the Elantra GLS or Limited no?

was very tempted to get an '08 Elantra GL Sport MANUAL...but I found out it didn't have side and side curtain airbags!!!!

Currently looking at
Elantra GLS (automatic...)
Sonata GL
and thinking about a Mazad3 or Pontiac Vibe

any suggestions on other cars to look at??

Personally, the Elantra would fit my needs the best because its smaller, good on gas, less expensive (compared to Sonata). The only deal breaker is that the Side Airbags only come on the higher models. The price brings it a bit closer to the Sonata. With that being said, I would go for the Sonata because the base (auto) model comes with side bags. Its more car for the money. However, keep in mind these are two totally different cars. One is an economy and one is a family sedan.

I say determine what you NEED first, then what you can afford.

[Electone]

I should add Off topic, for anyone who buys a new car, make sure you have the special protection on your Insurance for the negative value of your financing.

Eg, you buy a hyundai for 22,000, you drive it off the lot and put 20,000km on it, at this point its worth about 15k resale, but its only a year old so you've only paid off about lets say 6000 of your loan. End result is your car is worth 15k but you owe 16k on your loan. If your insurance doesnt have the special clause, you'll get book value (15k) from your insurance company and be on the hook 1000 to pay off the rest of your loan. This is obviously not a good situation! So be sure if you think about picking up a new car from this deal or at ANY time you make sure you add this to your insurance. With most insurance companies this covers your negative value for the first 2 years of your ownership.

What you're talking about here is the OPCF #43 endorsement - Waiver of Depreciation on new vehicles. Most insurance companies will automatically add this to brand new vehicles. It is usually valid for 24 months although some companies offer a 60 month length for a higher premium. When a vehicle is written off, book value is only part of the equation. Appraisers check the market value of the vehicle within the region where you live and try to come up with a fair average value. I know this because that's what I do for a living.

[fayenet]

Okay, I bought a Santa Fe 2.7 FWD last summer. Current it has 10k km on it and about $32k loan(0% interest). Just wondering if it's worth to trade in to get a AWD as the 4k off promotion & AWD is really tempting to me..

[jonathanq]

Okay, I bought a Santa Fe 2.7 FWD last summer. Current it has 10k km on it and about $32k loan(0% interest). Just wondering if it's worth to trade in to get a AWD as the 4k off promotion & AWD is really tempting to me..

The deal breaker will be how much the dealership is willing to give you for the trade in.

If you owe $32k on the loan - the dealer needs to give you $32k trade-in value for your Santa Fe. If you get the full value of the loan, then you are just financing the new vehicle minus the $4k promotion.

However if you only get $25k for the trade in. Then the new AWD will be MSRP - $4k promo + $7k (difference in trade in to owed loan).

[bizzyseller]

What you're talking about here is the OPCF #43 endorsement - Waiver of Depreciation on new vehicles. Most insurance companies will automatically add this to brand new vehicles. It is usually valid for 24 months although some companies offer a 60 month length for a higher premium. When a vehicle is written off, book value is only part of the equation. Appraisers check the market value of the vehicle within the region where you live and try to come up with a fair average value. I know this because that's what I do for a living.

I am still a bit unclear. Does the vehicle have to be paid off?

Example:
2008 Enourage L purchased in December 2008. 0% for 60 months. 19000km on the odometer today. Assuming the above clause is included in our insurance, am I correct to assume my insurance company will "backpay" the depreciation?

[bizzyseller]

One more question:

Assuming I financed an Entourage L in 2008 for 0% at 60 months. And I would like to trade in for a new 2009 Entourage L cash purchase. Would my MINIMUM trade in value be what is left on the financing? (So that would be: trade in value = 60 months - 13 months)?

I am new to all of this... which explains the newb questions.

Thanks!

[Kamloops]

This does not seem right, big price difference between the two, one is for the dealer in Kamloops and one is from Hyundai Canada


http://www.kamloopshyundai.ca/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

[scouzer]

One more question:

Assuming I financed an Entourage L in 2008 for 0% at 60 months. And I would like to trade in for a new 2009 Entourage L cash purchase. Would my MINIMUM trade in value be what is left on the financing? (So that would be: trade in value = 60 months - 13 months)?

I am new to all of this... which explains the newb questions.

Thanks!

no. your vehicle is almost certainly worth a lot less than you owe on it.

[Rehan]

This does not seem right, big price difference between the two, one is for the dealer in Kamloops and one is from Hyundai Canada The Kamloops page says "Delivery and Destination incl." for each one.

[Danno2005]

This does not seem right, big price difference between the two, one is for the dealer in Kamloops and one is from Hyundai Canada


http://www.kamloopshyundai.ca/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

Looks like Kamloops dealer trying to make more margin off the back of Hyundai and the consumer by making the MSRP higher on all the models.

Must be because cost of living is higher in BC - right?

:lol:

[Kamloops]

The Kamloops page says "Delivery and Destination incl." for each one.

Yep, missed that.
Just called them you are right.

And he also told me same discounts deal applys for other models , like the touring and gl , automatics ok too.

[HyperTech]

looks like the 0% is not available in quebec...

[JAC]

Yep, missed that.
Just called them you are right.

And he also told me same discounts deal applys for other models , like the touring and gl , automatics ok too.

No, the discount varies per trim level. IE: Accent GL Auto only receives $2600 discount.

Go to the Build & Price section; it seems to have the current discounts applied.

[superdsi]

Girlfriend looking at a Elantra GL Manual.
Went to the dealership.
Price with everything (taxes etc. ) was $18K after cash rebate and 0% financing for 36 months. The salesperson said there was room to move from that price.

Can anyone post their prices etc. if they buy an Elantra?

[Cas77]

Okay, I bought a Santa Fe 2.7 FWD last summer. Current it has 10k km on it and about $32k loan(0% interest). Just wondering if it's worth to trade in to get a AWD as the 4k off promotion & AWD is really tempting to me..

Well considering a brand new 2.7 FWD is only $26,405.00 incl. delivery/destination (and after a $3000 rebate) they're obviously going to give you a few thousand less than a brand new one, plus they need to make profit on your trade in...on top of that you're paying taxes on the new one again. It's obviosuly a no-brainer!

[Electone]

I am still a bit unclear. Does the vehicle have to be paid off?

Example:
2008 Enourage L purchased in December 2008. 0% for 60 months. 19000km on the odometer today. Assuming the above clause is included in our insurance, am I correct to assume my insurance company will "backpay" the depreciation?

Not really. The insurance company has several options under the 43 endorsement. They can put you into the exact same vehicle that you had, pay out as per the your purchase invoice, or find a similar vehicle for less. If you decide that you don't want the same car, they will simply pay out the purchase price and make the cheque co-payable to you and the financing company. Some insurance companies pay a third-party to shop around for the same vehicle you had for a better deal than you originally got. Either route, you are protected from ACV (actual cash value - which is the current market value, eg: depreciated amount).

[normanalex]

Im interested in a santa fe 4wd. Is there interest in a group buy

[kinyo963]

looks like the 0% is not available in quebec...

It is. I saw an add in the Metro news paper today.

[bizzyseller]

Not really. The insurance company has several options under the 43 endorsement. They can put you into the exact same vehicle that you had, pay out as per the your purchase invoice, or find a similar vehicle for less. If you decide that you don't want the same car, they will simply pay out the purchase price and make the cheque co-payable to you and the financing company. Some insurance companies pay a third-party to shop around for the same vehicle you had for a better deal than you originally got. Either route, you are protected from ACV (actual cash value - which is the current market value, eg: depreciated amount).

Thanks for the follow up. Is the 43 endorsement only to be used if the car is totaled?

[FusionSenses]

Well considering a brand new 2.7 FWD is only $26,405.00 incl. delivery/destination (and after a $3000 rebate) they're obviously going to give you a few thousand less than a brand new one, plus they need to make profit on your trade in...on top of that you're paying taxes on the new one again. It's obviosuly a no-brainer!



Exactly, how are they going to sell your trade-ins afterward to make any profit when the new car is cheaper?
If you were doing lease, then it's different.

[originalnutta]

Im interested in a santa fe 4wd. Is there interest in a group buy

All kidding aside, is it possible to get a really good deal if two cars are purchased?

My friend and i are both looking at small econo boxes ( yaris, fit, accent, swift, aveo, wave).

And if we can use that towards our advantage, can it work?

[Electone]

Thanks for the follow up. Is the 43 endorsement only to be used if the car is totaled?

Yes. Some companies were actually extending the coverage to parts replacement for the first 2 years on collision repairs (oem parts only), but most have abandoned that practice.

[juggie]

What you're talking about here is the OPCF #43 endorsement - Waiver of Depreciation on new vehicles. Most insurance companies will automatically add this to brand new vehicles. It is usually valid for 24 months although some companies offer a 60 month length for a higher premium. When a vehicle is written off, book value is only part of the equation. Appraisers check the market value of the vehicle within the region where you live and try to come up with a fair average value. I know this because that's what I do for a living.

Ya sorry i could not remember the exact endorsement, only that you want to make sure you have it! :) I was lucky enough to have it on a car that got written off (100% someone elses fault!). But i wont be lucky again because now i'll make sure of it.

[ultra]

when is this promo end?

[Albertan]

when is this promo end?

All your bass are belong to us.

[deano43]

Well I took the plunge, went for the elantra gl auto, paid $19000 out the door, a savings of $700 off of the web price, (charges that dont show, $130 for tires and air, $249 for etching to track auto theft, save $50 per year on insurance because of this), as much as the 0% sounded attractive (couldnt afford $520 per month) i went for the 60/84 plan at 2.9% im paying $250 pm with nothing down and a residual payment at the end of $5800

[Electone]

when is this promo end?

I just bought a 2009 Accent GL-Auto this week. I asked the salesman when this promo ended and he said in February. My guess is that they'll probably come out with another deal, but you never know.

[leseuldaniel]

Just to let you know I got a Santa Fe GLS AWD for 4600 under MSRP, and the dealer gave me 1000 worth of winter tires and rims. That's basically 5600$under MSRP before tax. Financed at 0.9%.

Just for fun I built a Rav4 v6 similarly equipped this morning on their website, and final price was about 12,000 more...

[ultra]

Just to let you know I got a Santa Fe GLS AWD for 4600 under MSRP, and the dealer gave me 1000 worth of winter tires and rims. That's basically 5600$under MSRP before tax. Financed at 0.9%.

Just for fun I built a Rav4 v6 similarly equipped this morning on their website, and final price was about 12,000 more...

I'm thinking to get the gls awd as well... which dealer did you go to?

[rysx]

Just to let you know I got a Santa Fe GLS AWD for 4600 under MSRP, and the dealer gave me 1000 worth of winter tires and rims. That's basically 5600$under MSRP before tax. Financed at 0.9%.

Just for fun I built a Rav4 v6 similarly equipped this morning on their website, and final price was about 12,000 more...

Solid deal! good job. May I also ask what kind of winter tires they gave you? im also interested in a GLS FWD. thx!!

[leseuldaniel]

Solid deal! good job. May I also ask what kind of winter tires they gave you? im also interested in a GLS FWD. thx!!

Thanks. My wife and I dealt as a team. I'm good with numbers, she's good with people.

Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor 16' and rims. I guess they must be good (or at least expensive) enough since these were the ones they wanted to 'sell' me at the start of the transaction :lol: Hard to back down afterwards... The vehicle was in stock though. 3-4 weeks on the lot. Montreal area, Longueuil Hyundai, highly recommended so far.

[vipt2000]

Just to let you know I got a Santa Fe GLS AWD for 4600 under MSRP, and the dealer gave me 1000 worth of winter tires and rims. That's basically 5600$under MSRP before tax. Financed at 0.9%.

Just for fun I built a Rav4 v6 similarly equipped this morning on their website, and final price was about 12,000 more...

If you don't mind, What is your final price (with taxes and all fees)?

[rook3d]

Thought I'd chime in as well.

Just finalizing a deal for a 2008 Hyundai Entourage Limited. $30,000 +GST. It's recommended as a best buy in the Lemon-Aid book.

They are offering the security etching for $299 and the road hazard warranty extension for $399.

I'm using my line of credit as I think interest rates are not going up any time soon. I just started working for Shaw Communications so I can write the vehicle off.

[JAC]

They are offering the security etching for $299 and the road hazard warranty extension for $399.

LOL. $299 for glass etching? The balls on them.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=dealer+glass+etching+scam&meta=

Road hazard extension? You can probably replace all four tires for close to $400, with better than the OEMs.

[rook3d]

LOL. $299 for glass etching? The balls on them.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=dealer+glass+etching+scam&meta=

Road hazard extension? You can probably replace all four tires for close to $400, with better than the OEMs.

True. The things they add to pad their pockets. Desperate times, I guess. Anyway, I'm enjoying the vehicle. Just followed the Lemon-aid guide and got a good deal. I actually didn't see the small print, so I was charged for the delivery charges and such.

[RASHID007]

True. The things they add to pad their pockets. Desperate times, I guess. Anyway, I'm enjoying the vehicle. Just followed the Lemon-aid guide and got a good deal. I actually didn't see the small print, so I was charged for the delivery charges and such.

What's the Lemon-aid guide?

[cferneyh]

Just to let you know I got a Santa Fe GLS AWD for 4600 under MSRP, and the dealer gave me 1000 worth of winter tires and rims. That's basically 5600$under MSRP before tax. Financed at 0.9%.

Just for fun I built a Rav4 v6 similarly equipped this morning on their website, and final price was about 12,000 more...

Nice!

I also decided to take the plunge for the GLS AWD, though I didn't get as good a deal as you ($4K under MRSP before tax).

[kmchow]

What's the Lemon-aid guide?

http://www.lemonaidcars.com/
The author prides itself on giving down to earth, no holds barred review on cars. He also gives a lot of background info on rebates/deals/scams on the auto industry.

[ultra]

Just got the 09 santa fe limited + cargo tray + wheel lock for $37142 on the road and they are just to sell us the sym-tech rust protection for 799 which seems expensive. Anyone got the dealer rust protection? are they good?

[shutout]

Just got the 09 santa fe limited + cargo tray + wheel lock for $37142 on the road and they are just to sell us the sym-tech rust protection for 799 which seems expensive. Anyone got the dealer rust protection? are they good?

Rust proofing is another scam for dealers to make $$$. They probably hired some third party to do it for much cheaper. My friend got it with 10 yrs warranty for his accord long time ago. After 9 years his car got some rust spots he took it back and dealer told him there is no hole yet so no warranty claims. I don't know how long it take to oxidize a hole in any car. My guess is over 10 years and I don't think people own a car that long anymore.

[Moonstruck]

I am in the market for a minivan. I did check out Honda, Toyota & Hyundai.
I notice on the Hyundai website it was giving cash adjustment of $11,000 ($30,995 - $11,000 = $19,995) on 2008 year Entourage L model, GL model $9,000 cash adjustment, GLS & Limited model $8,000 cash adjustment.
It is a good buy for Hyundai Entourage (or) should I buy Honda Odyssey (or) Toyota Seinna.

Thanks

[myicarus15]

Hi?
Anyone can tell me is this a good deal or not?
I went to Hyundai yesterday and they told me that I can get 09 Elantra GL Auto for $567 per month by their 36 months finance 0%. All taxes and even reg fees included. I have no experience to buying a new car so I need good tips also ;). Ah also do you think can I ask for mud guard and window tints for free?

[BoxsterS]

One thing I've never liked about Hyundai is that they offer their American customers a 10 year warranty and they give Canadians the shaft with a 5 year warranty.

[deano43]

got my elantra gl auto for $19105 in BC works out to be $530 pm for 36 m, I think you can do better

[162]

I am in the market for a minivan. I did check out Honda, Toyota & Hyundai.
It is a good buy for Hyundai Entourage (or) should I buy Honda Odyssey (or) Toyota Seinna.

Thanks

If you can afford to throw away $10,000 be my guest!

[jjzzbb]

One thing I've never liked about Hyundai is that they offer their American customers a 10 year warranty and they give Canadians the shaft with a 5 year warranty.

+1.

The salesman told me that it because the warranty can not be trasfered to the next owner in US and Americans keep their cars much shorter than Canadians.:mad:

[antman59]

I am in the market for a minivan. I did check out Honda, Toyota & Hyundai.
I notice on the Hyundai website it was giving cash adjustment of $11,000 ($30,995 - $11,000 = $19,995) on 2008 year Entourage L model, GL model $9,000 cash adjustment, GLS & Limited model $8,000 cash adjustment.
It is a good buy for Hyundai Entourage (or) should I buy Honda Odyssey (or) Toyota Seinna.

Thanks

I have liked the van ever since it came out. If I was to buy a Van that's the one I would get. It was van of the year and I think it's still considered the safest minivan out their.

[Tuppin]

One thing I've never liked about Hyundai is that they offer their American customers a 10 year warranty and they give Canadians the shaft with a 5 year warranty.

I think I recall that in the US the 10 year warranty is non-transferrable....so if you sell your car at 8 years old then the warranty ends....which affects the resale value obviously.

Here in Canada I think it is illegal to have a non-transferrable warranty so companies shy from a 10 year transferrable warranty. Mitsubishi has the 10 years in Canada though.

I guess hyundai figures most people won't keep their cars for 10 years and so they won't have to worry about warranty issues for most of them despite getting all the bragging value of a 10 year warranty.

[SQuiDLy]

My wife called a dealer today, apparently the promotion might end tomorrow, they didn't received anything about having this continuing next month. Its strange because there is no end date anywhere, and on the website its written "New Sale Price" like it might be permanent price drop...

[superdsi]

Just got a APA quote. At the bottom of the pdf the promo ends Feb. 2nd.

I doubt it will but I am jumping this weekend.

[superdsi]

Hyundai Elantra GL Manual

Got it done for 4.5% over dealer invoice.

Used APA as a guide and some advice from their staff.

Worked via email with a couple dealers then chose one.

Used the APA price and got it down another $355.

Total was $17725 plus plates.

Couldn't get anything else out of the dealer not even an oil change.

Took a couple hours but it is done.

The girlfriend was happy with her new car. Took the 36 month 0% financing.

[RASHID007]

Is this deal still good? It's still on the site. Looking to buy this week.

[DrHate]

Hyundai Elantra GL Manual

superdsi;

Have you check the mazda 3 out, it seem better deal. Unless you are really dont like mazda. Well you closed the deal, good job.

John

[RASHID007]

Thought I'd chime in as well.

Just finalizing a deal for a 2008 Hyundai Entourage Limited. $30,000 +GST. It's recommended as a best buy in the Lemon-Aid book.

They are offering the security etching for $299 and the road hazard warranty extension for $399.

I'm using my line of credit as I think interest rates are not going up any time soon. I just started working for Shaw Communications so I can write the vehicle off.

Why is it plus GST only? No PST?

[superdsi]

Hyundai Elantra GL Manual

superdsi;

Have you check the mazda 3 out, it seem better deal. Unless you are really dont like mazda. Well you closed the deal, good job.

John

The Mazda 3 would be $20960.70 plus financing at 5%.

Deals do not compare. My girlfriend have Elantras now really like them.

My girlfriend is really cheap so we took the cash purchase and the 0% 36

month no interest financing.

I know. I know. We should have financed it over 84 months like the rest of

the smart RFD people do.

[Albertan]

Why is it plus GST only? No PST?

Seriously? I mean really? I guess people from Ontario really do think they are the center of the universe.

[Danno2005]

:lol:

+1

[RASHID007]

Seriously? I mean really? I guess people from Ontario really do think they are the center of the universe.

1. I was born in Edmonton...Calgary's better looking brother.

2. Alberta is the only place without PST, I apologize for missing it. Big deal. Calm down.

[DrHate]

Superdsi;
There are some Mazda 3 demo(~500km) which go for ~18K. They are from Mazda Toronto. But i think it only for cash purchase.

John

[Cormano]

Picked up an Elantra GLS (automatic, with side airbags, ABS, few other gadgets) in Halifax for $450 per month, all in, over 4 years, 0.9% financing. No better than the web price, but still works for me.

[RASHID007]

I was able to negotiate $5100 off MSRP on a 2009 Santa Fe Limited or GLS AWD in the GTA area.

I haven't pulled the trigger yet as I'm in Windsor and haven't had the chance to go to my local dealer and test drive and pick a colour.

If anybody is interested in the name of the salesman or dealership I mentioned to him I had some friends that may want the same deal and he said to have them call. PM me and I will give you the info.

~Rashid

[mxz600]

I was able to negotiate $5100 off MSRP on a 2009 Santa Fe Limited or GLS AWD in the GTA area.

I haven't pulled the trigger yet as I'm in Windsor and haven't had the chance to go to my local dealer and test drive and pick a colour.

If anybody is interested in the name of the salesman or dealership I mentioned to him I had some friends that may want the same deal and he said to have them call. PM me and I will give you the info.

~Rashid

5100, thats good, in St. John's NL, forget it, dealers are making record sales, they will only do what the manufacture is offering... POS!

[jagsjay]

my friend got a sonata 2009 gl for 24K on the road with full tank , including tax and frieght and registration
with 4 years 0% financing and 0 down
great car

[rysx]

after many months of research (thanks to everyone on rfd for their helpful posts) I just picked up an 09 santa fe gls FWD with cargo screen/cover and wheel locks for roughly $32000 out the door (in the GTA). Chose the 5yr finance at 0.9% . I test drove and compared the rav4, crv, venza, mdx (just for fun, nice ride but I cant justify an extra $20-$30g's for a vehicle with similar size).

the rav4 and crv were nice but they were a bit too narrow, I installed a car seat in the back middle position and can comfortably have 2 people sit on the sides. i must say the rav4 was a rocket to drive. lots of power but I dont think I need to go 0-100 in 6.2 seconds with a baby in the car.
the interior of the crv was nice but i was not a fan of the underpowered 4cyl.

the venza was very tempting but the trunk space was limited with the sloping roofline. the wheel wells also took a bit of space and Toyota favoured to have an overkill amount of legroom to the rear seats which sacrificed more cargo room.
although the 20" rims looked sweet, it wont be fun times replacing the tires and/or getting winter tires for it.

i can fit our bugaboo stroller length-wise easily on one side of the santa fe's cargo area. can still fit tons of bags/groceries on the left half.

the rav4, crv and venza would also be well over $10g's more with similar options if you take into account their higher financing rates.

I came to a conclusion that the santa fe was simply the best vehicle for our requirements and budget! its quiet, lots of useable space inside, decent power/handling/ride quality AND excellent safety ratings which is important for me with my baby in the back. awesome crossover for the money.

the leather seats will come in handy for spills, the stereo is very good which also comes with a usb connection for my ipod and xm satellite for 3 months. the interior fit and finish is amazing, fully loaded minus navi. (I have my $100 tom tom one for that)

the trunk is massive and there is a very cool understorage compartment as well.

my only dislikes of the vehicle are the 16" wheels. they look like castor wheels to me. but i can live with that. ive owned 3 japanese cars in the past and I finally caved in and bought a Hyundai. so far so good.
if anyone has any questions feel free to pm me.

[tkl]

after many months of research (thanks to everyone on rfd for their helpful posts) I just picked up an 09 santa fe gls FWD with cargo screen/cover and wheel locks for roughly $32000 out the door (in the GTA). Chose the 5yr finance at 0.9% . I test drove and compared the rav4, crv, venza, mdx (just for fun, nice ride but I cant justify an extra $20-$30g's for a vehicle with similar size).

the rav4 and crv were nice but they were a bit too narrow, I installed a car seat in the back middle position and can comfortably have 2 people sit on the sides. i must say the rav4 was a rocket to drive. lots of power but I dont think I need to go 0-100 in 6.2 seconds with a baby in the car.
the interior of the crv was nice but i was not a fan of the underpowered 4cyl.

the venza was very tempting but the trunk space was limited with the sloping roofline. the wheel wells also took a bit of space and Toyota favoured to have an overkill amount of legroom to the rear seats which sacrificed more cargo room.
although the 20" rims looked sweet, it wont be fun times replacing the tires and/or getting winter tires for it.

i can fit our bugaboo stroller length-wise easily on one side of the santa fe's cargo area. can still fit tons of bags/groceries on the left half.

the rav4, crv and venza would also be well over $10g's more with similar options if you take into account their higher financing rates.

I came to a conclusion that the santa fe was simply the best vehicle for our requirements and budget! its quiet, lots of useable space inside, decent power/handling/ride quality AND excellent safety ratings which is important for me with my baby in the back. awesome crossover for the money.

the leather seats will come in handy for spills, the stereo is very good which also comes with a usb connection for my ipod and xm satellite for 3 months. the interior fit and finish is amazing, fully loaded minus navi. (I have my $100 tom tom one for that)

the trunk is massive and there is a very cool understorage compartment as well.

my only dislikes of the vehicle are the 16" wheels. they look like castor wheels to me. but i can live with that. ive owned 3 japanese cars in the past and I finally caved in and bought a Hyundai. so far so good.
if anyone has any questions feel free to pm me.

Congrats, it's a great vehicle. I've had mine for a year now and no issues so far. I have 18' summer tires but downsize to 16 for snows.

[longdong]

after many months of research (thanks to everyone on rfd for their helpful posts) I just picked up an 09 santa fe gls FWD with cargo screen/cover and wheel locks for roughly $32000 out the door (in the GTA). Chose the 5yr finance at 0.9% . I test drove and compared the rav4, crv, venza, mdx (just for fun, nice ride but I cant justify an extra $20-$30g's for a vehicle with similar size).

the rav4 and crv were nice but they were a bit too narrow, I installed a car seat in the back middle position and can comfortably have 2 people sit on the sides. i must say the rav4 was a rocket to drive. lots of power but I dont think I need to go 0-100 in 6.2 seconds with a baby in the car.
the interior of the crv was nice but i was not a fan of the underpowered 4cyl.

the venza was very tempting but the trunk space was limited with the sloping roofline. the wheel wells also took a bit of space and Toyota favoured to have an overkill amount of legroom to the rear seats which sacrificed more cargo room.
although the 20" rims looked sweet, it wont be fun times replacing the tires and/or getting winter tires for it.

i can fit our bugaboo stroller length-wise easily on one side of the santa fe's cargo area. can still fit tons of bags/groceries on the left half.

the rav4, crv and venza would also be well over $10g's more with similar options if you take into account their higher financing rates.

I came to a conclusion that the santa fe was simply the best vehicle for our requirements and budget! its quiet, lots of useable space inside, decent power/handling/ride quality AND excellent safety ratings which is important for me with my baby in the back. awesome crossover for the money.

the leather seats will come in handy for spills, the stereo is very good which also comes with a usb connection for my ipod and xm satellite for 3 months. the interior fit and finish is amazing, fully loaded minus navi. (I have my $100 tom tom one for that)

the trunk is massive and there is a very cool understorage compartment as well.

my only dislikes of the vehicle are the 16" wheels. they look like castor wheels to me. but i can live with that. ive owned 3 japanese cars in the past and I finally caved in and bought a Hyundai. so far so good.
if anyone has any questions feel free to pm me.

What are you talking about ? check the Honda thread, somebody just got:
"http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691819&page=21"
Honda CRV with 26700$ on the road (how can you come out with a Honda CRV of 42k ?????)

[jjzzbb]

What are you talking about ? check the Honda thread, somebody just got:
"http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691819&page=21"
Honda CRV with 26700$ on the road (how can you come out with a Honda CRV of 42k ?????)



the rav4, crv and venza would also be well over $10g's more with similar options if you take into account their higher financing rates.

.

$26700 for a CRV base model?

[superwell]

$26700 for a CRV base model?


that one in paticular was a LX, but it had a sports package on it...but there was another user that got a EX for $25ish before taxes....so around 28 on the road...which is the top of the line, without leather.

[rysx]

What are you talking about ? check the Honda thread, somebody just got:
"http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691819&page=21"
Honda CRV with 26700$ on the road (how can you come out with a Honda CRV of 42k ?????)

thats for an CRV LX. CASH Price. 2008 model, very limited selection. you can also get a 2009 entry model santa fe for $25k otd and still take advantage of their 0% financing/4 years or .9/5 years.

anyway like I said, in order to get leather/sunroof I was comparing the santa fe gls with the crv ex-l model.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the average discount people were getting in that forum was for $5500, CASH price
35190 - 5500 + 1560 + 175 air/gas tax + 150 licensing.

=$35679 OTD.

bank car loans are in the 8-9% range but lets just say you scored a rate of 5.9% or got an unsecured line of credit at that rate.

thats another $5600 in interest over the 5 years.

im also a heavy ipod user. the ipod dock on the crv is an extra $350.

to be honest after having the santa fe for a few days already, even if I could have gotten the crv at the same price I would still pick our santa fe.

[jtonge]

I have an 06 Honda Civic coupe (new model) with a 110K on it. I love it. I can't believe how well it has held its value. I have the 5-speed manual and its passing power is phenomenal. I love the quality of materials used, in the dash, seats and engine.

You know how some cars tend to whine or complain about being floored? Well the Civic loves being held between 4,500 and 6,500 rpms. As long as you are in that range you can put the pedal down and boy the car will take you for a ride. But don't bother flooring it around 2,000 rpm because you won't go anywhere.

I drive it rough and I have done nothing to it but air filter and oil. I get around 660km off 45L on average. Everything far surpasses my expectations for an entry-level vehicle.

But now my fiance wants a family friendly vehicle with an automatic transmission.

Not sure I'll be satisfied with Hyundaii, despite the great reviews. Buying a Civic sedan to replace my coupe sounds smart, but boring since I've been blessed with a 5-speed this whole time.

[mxz600]

I have an 06 Honda Civic coupe (new model) with a 110K on it. I love it. I can't believe how well it has held its value. I have the 5-speed manual and its passing power is phenomenal. I love the quality of materials used, in the dash, seats and engine.

You know how some cars tend to whine or complain about being floored? Well the Civic loves being held between 4,500 and 6,500 rpms. As long as you are in that range you can put the pedal down and boy the car will take you for a ride. But don't bother flooring it around 2,000 rpm because you won't go anywhere.

I drive it rough and I have done nothing to it but air filter and oil. I get around 660km off 45L on average. Everything far surpasses my expectations for an entry-level vehicle.

But now my fiance wants a family friendly vehicle with an automatic transmission.

Not sure I'll be satisfied with Hyundaii, despite the great reviews. Buying a Civic sedan to replace my coupe sounds smart, but boring since I've been blessed with a 5-speed this whole time.


your post has nothing to do with this thread!

[victorwon]

just got a new 7-seater Santa Fe Limited last week, $36500 OTD (with bush bar, chrome side-step, hood deflector, top cross-bars and rubber mat) for the upcoming big family. love the exterior style, interior design and fit, roomy trunk and flexible 3rd-row.

i was planning on getting a toyota, but after reading the reviews and testing driving the car, just fell in love with hyundai. it looks small and nimble comparing to the highlander, but has amazing inside space, and most important drives like a sedan.

only thing concerned is the trip computer keeps telling me the fuel consumption is around 15liter/100km - is it accurate? because according to spec it should be 2 liter less. btw, i'm not a heavy driver.

also dealer only gave me 2 sets of keys, isn't it supposed to be 3?

[rysx]

just got a new 7-seater Santa Fe Limited last week, $36500 OTD (with bush bar, chrome side-step, hood deflector, top cross-bars and rubber mat) for the upcoming big family. love the exterior style, interior design and fit, roomy trunk and flexible 3rd-row.

i was planning on getting a toyota, but after reading the reviews and testing driving the car, just fell in love with hyundai. it looks small and nimble comparing to the highlander, but has amazing inside space, and most important drives like a sedan.

only thing concerned is the trip computer keeps telling me the fuel consumption is around 15liter/100km - is it accurate? because according to spec it should be 2 liter less. btw, i'm not a heavy driver.

also dealer only gave me 2 sets of keys, isn't it supposed to be 3?


+1 on the fuel consuption computer and 2 sets of keys. not sure how accurate the readings are but I'm currently at 400km with a quarter left in the tank. If I can get atleast 550 with a tank of gas I'll be happy. keep in mind its the winter and its a brand new car. should get slightly better in a few months.

only thing I think I should have picked up is the cargo tray. does anyone know if you can still open up the under storage easily with this tray?

[LDN2012]

I agree with all those who posted about the Santa Fe and how great it is. I got mines when it was first redesigned in 2007 and I love driving it. Awesome vehicle. Too bad at the time, it was new and there werent too many deals on it..

[normanalex]

thanks to folks on this thread, I was able to negotiate above vehicle with awd for $31913
out the door with 0% financing for 3 years. Love the car and only thing missing is a remote starter for those cold winter mornings.

[mxz600]

who here got experience with the FWD 4cyl VS. the FWD 6? Could you live with the 4cyl and is there a big MPG real world difference?

thanks.

[ultra]

just got a new 7-seater Santa Fe Limited last week, $36500 OTD (with bush bar, chrome side-step, hood deflector, top cross-bars and rubber mat) for the upcoming big family. love the exterior style, interior design and fit, roomy trunk and flexible 3rd-row.

i was planning on getting a toyota, but after reading the reviews and testing driving the car, just fell in love with hyundai. it looks small and nimble comparing to the highlander, but has amazing inside space, and most important drives like a sedan.

only thing concerned is the trip computer keeps telling me the fuel consumption is around 15liter/100km - is it accurate? because according to spec it should be 2 liter less. btw, i'm not a heavy driver.

also dealer only gave me 2 sets of keys, isn't it supposed to be 3?

Is it a 2008 model? As far as I know, they don't have 7 seater for 09.

[antman59]

who here got experience with the FWD 4cyl VS. the FWD 6? Could you live with the 4cyl and is there a big MPG real world difference?

thanks.

If this is for a Sonata, I have a 2003 4cyl and I have no problems. The 4cyl is better in fuel economy, but you can look at the numbers to compare. Some people grumble about power but really when do you need to move that fast? The only time I think it makes real sense for a V6 is if you have a 7 seater, or will be frequently be carying heavy loads. 4 People each weighing 300lb's, go with a V6 :D

[D-Roc]

They lowered the APR for the Touring. It use to be 2.9. Now it is 2.6

[The_Deported]

I think Hyundai lower their interest rate for all models. I've just checked for fun for the Elantra and it came with 2.6%. I did it because I've just bought an 09 Elantra GL Auto from the old promo at 2.9% with factory rebate of 3500$

[mxz600]

If this is for a Sonata, I have a 2003 4cyl and I have no problems. The 4cyl is better in fuel economy, but you can look at the numbers to compare. Some people grumble about power but really when do you need to move that fast? The only time I think it makes real sense for a V6 is if you have a 7 seater, or will be frequently be carying heavy loads. 4 People each weighing 300lb's, go with a V6 :D

Go to the Gym you mean!

[victorwon]

Is it a 2008 model? As far as I know, they don't have 7 seater for 09.
Yes, it's the 2008 model. And looks like to be last one in GTA. :cheesygri

[jtonge]

thanks to folks on this thread, I was able to negotiate above vehicle with awd for $31913
out the door with 0% financing for 3 years. Love the car and only thing missing is a remote starter for those cold winter mornings.


Did that include tax and admin fees?

[jjzzbb]

Did that include tax and admin fees?

He said out the door price, it should include everything.

[longdong]

He said out the door price, it should include everything.

Wowow, it's amazing too expensive for a Santa Fe ... if I want to buy a SUV, I will buy Saturn Vue it's a lot cheaper and better:

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/Affordable-Midsize-SUVs/

VUE ranges second and Santa fe 14th

VUE may range around 17k to 20k

[MS MSP]

just got a new 7-seater Santa Fe Limited last week, $36500 OTD (with bush bar, chrome side-step, hood deflector, top cross-bars and rubber mat) for the upcoming big family. love the exterior style, interior design and fit, roomy trunk and flexible 3rd-row.

only thing concerned is the trip computer keeps telling me the fuel consumption is around 15liter/100km - is it accurate? because according to spec it should be 2 liter less. btw, i'm not a heavy driver.

also dealer only gave me 2 sets of keys, isn't it supposed to be 3?

I have never heard of getting 3 sets of keys with a new car.

As for the fuel consumption, I looked at the Santa Fe last year, but after reading the numerous stories of horendous mileage, I looked elsewhere.

The numbers were equally bad on the Mazda CX7, and it took premium fuel.

[Felks24]

Wowow, it's amazing too expensive for a Santa Fe ... if I want to buy a SUV, I will buy Saturn Vue it's a lot cheaper and better:

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/Affordable-Midsize-SUVs/

VUE ranges second and Santa fe 14th

VUE may range around 17k to 20k

No, the Saturn Outlook is 2nd among Midsize SUV's, the VUE is 10th among Compact SUV's.

Outlook and VUE are completely different vehicles.

[mxz600]

Thats not a real credable list, CRV isn't even there. Maybe its soo bad it didn't make the list! but i doubt it.

[Edouble]

Hyundai's current deals are definately great for those looking to finance. I picked up a Sonata GL Sport (4 cyl.) in December for 23,500 OTR cash price (MSRP 25,695). Mind you this was while they were offering the 4,000 cash purchase discount.

Great car, no real complaints. Fuel economy could be better though, 11-12L/100km, mixed driving (50/50ish). Hope it will get better with more kms and warmer weather.

[MJunkie]

I was contemplating getting a second car. Live in Brampton its been tough getting by with just one car with both my wife and me working outside of Brampton.

This Hyundai promotion just caught my eye. With 0% financing and serious cash discounts its tempting to just go with a brand new car. I priced out Elantra GL Auto (needs to be an automatic and have an AC) .. with taxes it comes to $19,735.45 on the website. Someone here mentioned joining APA could potentially result in even lower price?

Is this true? .. or is it still a better deal to go with a second hand Honda or Toyota.

This will mainly be used as a commuters car.

[MrDisco]

Someone here mentioned joining APA could potentially result in even lower price?

Is this true? .. or is it still a better deal to go with a second hand Honda or Toyota.



Joining the APA will give you the invoice price and a pre-negotiated price with their dealer. What this means is that it will save your hours of back-and-forth haggling.

If you enjoy haggling then go for it. Personally I think it would be dumb to enter a dealership without having this info.

As for Hyundai vs Honda or Toyota I can't help you there. If you're playing the odds then you shouldn't have issues with the 2nd hand car but it would depend on the model, how well it was maintained, etc.

[Danno2005]

I have never heard of getting 3 sets of keys with a new car.

As for the fuel consumption, I looked at the Santa Fe last year, but after reading the numerous stories of horendous mileage, I looked elsewhere.

The numbers were equally bad on the Mazda CX7, and it took premium fuel.

What is realistic for real world number fuel economy for any AWD 4,000lb+ vehicle driven mostly city type driving?

I think 15L/100 sounds about right.

Sounds like a 6-speed auto will be launched for the 2010 Santa Fe. Should help.

[MS MSP]

What is realistic for real world number fuel economy for any AWD 4,000lb+ vehicle driven mostly city type driving?

I think 15L/100 sounds about right.

Sounds like a 6-speed auto will be launched for the 2010 Santa Fe. Should help.

I agree with you.

I looked elsewhere when I realized I didn't need a vehicle that size.

[Danno2005]

I agree with you.

I looked elsewhere when I realized I didn't need a vehicle that size.

Smart move.

[jagsjay]

Hyundai's current deals are definately great for those looking to finance. I picked up a Sonata GL Sport (4 cyl.) in December for 23,500 OTR cash price (MSRP 25,695). Mind you this was while they were offering the 4,000 cash purchase discount.

Great car, no real complaints. Fuel economy could be better though, 11-12L/100km, mixed driving (50/50ish). Hope it will get better with more kms and warmer weather.

did u buy cash or finance and was it 08 /09 brand new?

thats a great deal

so 23.5 after tax/friend and registration?

[Edouble]

did u buy cash or finance and was it 08 /09 brand new?

thats a great deal

so 23.5 after tax/friend and registration?

09 brand new. It was a cash deal and yes, 23500 after all taxes and fees.

[CorsairMan]

I just started discussions with a dealer about this vehicle. My offer was $35,660 all in, out the door ($31,557 before tax).

He countered with $37,111 all in, out the door ($32,791 before tax).

Anyone with a similar deal made recently?

Thanks!

[canukeneh]

I just started discussions with a dealer about this vehicle. My offer was $35,660 all in, out the door ($31,557 before tax).

He countered with $37,111 all in, out the door ($32,791 before tax).

Anyone with a similar deal made recently?

Thanks!

Well, is that the limited w/ or w/o additional options. I'd say if base limited, not so hot, as that's pretty much mrsp minus the dealer rebate. The dealer price should start lower than the mrsp right now.

[Prof]

09 brand new. It was a cash deal and yes, 23500 after all taxes and fees.

I see you're in the GTA. I'm in SK and trying to figure the price paid before taxes/fees. Tax is 8% + 5% in Ontario correct meaning you paid just under $21000 w/rebates before taxes, correct? Did you need to grind much to get that price. It seems very low compared to MSRP.

Rebate is now $3K but low rate financing is available. Really like the add-ons to the Sonata in the sport model though I could live with the GL.

[CorsairMan]

Well, is that the limited w/ or w/o additional options. I'd say if base limited, not so hot, as that's pretty much mrsp minus the dealer rebate. The dealer price should start lower than the mrsp right now.


There is no options - it is a Limited only. This dealer tried to suggest there was no dealer holdback and attempted to say that the Santa Fe is subject to a Fuel Tax. Wrong on both counts. I will go back to him with my price again, but I don't think there will be a deal anytime soon.

If anyone else bought a Limited - I would love to hear from you!

[Edouble]

I see you're in the GTA. I'm in SK and trying to figure the price paid before taxes/fees. Tax is 8% + 5% in Ontario correct meaning you paid just under $21000 w/rebates before taxes, correct? Did you need to grind much to get that price. It seems very low compared to MSRP.

Rebate is now $3K but low rate financing is available. Really like the add-ons to the Sonata in the sport model though I could live with the GL.

Yes correct, Ontario tax is 13%. It took a decent amount of negotiation, but it wasn't painful or tedious at all. The dealership seemed to really want my business due to end on month/year quotas (i'm assuming). I acutally made a final offer of 24,000, but told them I wasn't prepared to buy that day and wanted to shop around a bit more. They countered with 23,500 if I signed that day and I couldn't justify refusing such a fantastic deal.

I negotiated using an OTR figure, so didn't care what fees they added as long as the final figure was one that I was happy with. On bill of sale the following charges were added, if I remember correctly:

1415 freight/pdi
175 air tax
50 gas tax
5 omvic

Hope that helps.

[victorwon]

I have never heard of getting 3 sets of keys with a new car.

As for the fuel consumption, I looked at the Santa Fe last year, but after reading the numerous stories of horendous mileage, I looked elsewhere.

The numbers were equally bad on the Mazda CX7, and it took premium fuel.

Just found this at Jdpower, still had my head spinning that how come the santy can be rated no.1 in a professional site with so much difference in real life. Maybe my car is too new and haven't been broken in??? Anyone, any thoughts??

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/articles/Top-10-Most-Fuel-efficient-(Non-hybrid)-2008-Midsize-CUVs

[Acuratl]

Just found this at Jdpower, still had my head spinning that how come the santy can be rated no.1 in a professional site with so much difference in real life. Maybe my car is too new and haven't been broken in??? Anyone, any thoughts??

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/articles/Top-10-Most-Fuel-efficient-(Non-hybrid)-2008-Midsize-CUVs

hyundai is POS always has been , not sure why you're surprised?

[mxz600]

I just got back from the Hyundai Dealer and feel like I was pumped full of *****

I am looking a the Santa Fe, either model from FWD to AWD 2.7 or 3.3 liter. I ask him what the dealership was gunna take off above the 3000 from the MANUFACTURER. He said that the dealership is kicking in money to get the price to 3000 off, and then proceeded to tell me about the 5 yr warranty and .9% for 5 years.

I said Honda has 4000 off CRV and the dealer is taking an additional off of 1400 dollars. Again, he said the managers had meetings with corporate head office and corp. asked what would they like to see, lower advertised pricing or other incentives like accessories or whatever... like i said BS!

So again, I said, "so theres no haggling" he said NOPE!

I don't know if hes being honust with me but all other dealers/company incentives are from the manufacturer, dealers still have there profit margin.

This dealer has moved 80 units in January, the most in my city, according to him anyway, next to Toyota.

What has others been getting off the santa fe over and above the 3000 off and .9% financing

Sad part of it all is, its the nicest, plushest, option rich vehicle we drove in all the small SUV's. Even this is a midsize. the price is comparable.

What do you all think?

[victorwon]

I just got back from the Hyundai Dealer and feel like I was pumped full of *****

I am looking a the Santa Fe, either model from FWD to AWD 2.7 or 3.3 liter. I ask him what the dealership was gunna take off above the 3000 from the MANUFACTURER. He said that the dealership is kicking in money to get the price to 3000 off, and then proceeded to tell me about the 5 yr warranty and .9% for 5 years.

I said Honda has 4000 off CRV and the dealer is taking an additional off of 1400 dollars. Again, he said the managers had meetings with corporate head office and corp. asked what would they like to see, lower advertised pricing or other incentives like accessories or whatever... like i said BS!

So again, I said, "so theres no haggling" he said NOPE!

I don't know if hes being honust with me but all other dealers/company incentives are from the manufacturer, dealers still have there profit margin.

This dealer has moved 80 units in January, the most in my city, according to him anyway, next to Toyota.

What has others been getting off the santa fe over and above the 3000 off and .9% financing

Sad part of it all is, its the nicest, plushest, option rich vehicle we drove in all the small SUV's. Even this is a midsize. the price is comparable.

What do you all think?

I have exactly the same feeling as you when researching my vehicle. The car may looks or handles like a small SUV outside, but inside OMG the space is wonderful. I don't regret a single bit other than some suspicious on the fuel economy - I just found today online that some other owners mentioned the cold winter plus new-car-break-in effect could be the culprit of the high MPG.

I got my 2008 limited 7-seater with $6000 rebates from factory plus $2000 off from the dealer, so that's $8000 off before tax. If one dealer ignores you, just find another one. There are plenty in GTA and they do want to sell fast.

[packet1]

I have exactly the same feeling as you when researching my vehicle. The car may looks or handles like a small SUV outside, but inside OMG the space is wonderful. I don't regret a single bit other than some suspicious on the fuel economy - I just found today online that some other owners mentioned the cold winter plus new-car-break-in effect could be the culprit of the high MPG.

I got my 2008 limited 7-seater with $6000 rebates from factory plus $2000 off from the dealer, so that's $8000 off before tax. If one dealer ignores you, just find another one. There are plenty in GTA and they do want to sell fast.
We bought one 2008 3.3L FW last september. tried richmondhill, thornhill, toronto and brampton hyundai. brampton gave us 2000 off msrp and 5yr 0% and we took it. Felt dealers in west was easier. And people should be able to get even better price now I guess.

[sonypcs]

Starting this week, Kia (Hyundai's Sister company) are also offering 0 % + Cash Back for many of the models (2009 Rio, Rio5, Spectra and etc...)...What a CRAZY Deal to crash down the BIG 3's ....!!! Sooner or Later, it will crash down Nissan, Mazda and all those guys with their crazy deals...

I can see Korean Car Maker (getting no bailout money from their government but are aggressively selling their cars below their MSRP or doing whatever they can to move out their cars and getting more market share while the domestic's (BIG 3's) are sitting there and waiting for more bailout monies... During the past 2 weeks, the BIG 3's are back to step 1 again (8.5 % Financing on Chevy, Pontiac, 8.99% Financing on Chrysler and DONT ever think of the word ...LEASING PLUS they are still advertising CASH PURCHASE (Who the heck will cash purchase their car if people are losing their jobs and not being able to pull out their money from their investments ??)

[mxz600]

I have exactly the same feeling as you when researching my vehicle. The car may looks or handles like a small SUV outside, but inside OMG the space is wonderful. I don't regret a single bit other than some suspicious on the fuel economy - I just found today online that some other owners mentioned the cold winter plus new-car-break-in effect could be the culprit of the high MPG.

I got my 2008 limited 7-seater with $6000 rebates from factory plus $2000 off from the dealer, so that's $8000 off before tax. If one dealer ignores you, just find another one. There are plenty in GTA and they do want to sell fast.

how did u get 6K off from the manufacturere, isn't it only 3k off?

[snowles]

Well, the missus and I finally bit, this deal was just too good to pass on and with our family growing, we needed something a lot bigger than our 05 Spectra.

Went for the '09 Santa Fe GL AWD, with block heater, remote starter, side steps, rear cargo tray and rubber mats. Managed to only get another $550 in discounts after the $3,000 cash allowance, and went 60 months at .9%. Total after taxes was about $35,000.

These things are selling like crazy in northwestern Ontario, my little town (pop. 2300) has seen at least a dozen of them pop up in the past year alone; they seem to be replacing the mini-van as the family vehicle of choice here in NWO.

That said, the dealership was very good and customer friendly; they sold at least 3 of these things while we were there, so they aren't willing to make a whole lot of deals. But the service was excellent, so no complaints.

Free car washes on the weekend (they open up the garage and provide everything to you), free drinks, free loaners while they do work, and when you need servicing done and you're from out of town, they'll pay for a hotel for the night for you. All in all, very impressive, especially after the lackluster service we got at Kia.

[cyc1120]

I'm thinking of getting myself an Accent GL. Since the car is quite cheap already, do you guys think that there is room for negotiation?

Btw, any thoughts on that car?

[barbotte]

i am looking into their van series anyone got one and want to share how much they got it for or could get it..hyunday or kia model
thanks

[Rehan]

i am looking into their van series anyone got one and want to share how much they got it for or could get it..hyunday or kia model
thanks I got a Kia flyer with the Mississauga News this week that had the 2009 Kia Sedona for $19,995 "Cash Purchase Price"... I assume that's for the LX model, for which the MSRP is $26,745.

By comparison, the Hyundai Entourage shown at http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx is $24,395.

Keep in mind that the real-world fuel economy of the Sedona & Entourage is relatively poor compared to the Sienna. So despite the cheaper initial price, they may cost you more in the long run.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList2&make=Kia&model=Sedona
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList2&make=Hyundai&model=Entourage
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList2&make=Toyota&model=Sienna%202WD

[mxz600]

Well, the missus and I finally bit, this deal was just too good to pass on and with our family growing, we needed something a lot bigger than our 05 Spectra.

Went for the '09 Santa Fe GL AWD, with block heater, remote starter, side steps, rear cargo tray and rubber mats. Managed to only get another $550 in discounts after the $3,000 cash allowance, and went 60 months at .9%. Total after taxes was about $35,000.

These things are selling like crazy in northwestern Ontario, my little town (pop. 2300) has seen at least a dozen of them pop up in the past year alone; they seem to be replacing the mini-van as the family vehicle of choice here in NWO.

That said, the dealership was very good and customer friendly; they sold at least 3 of these things while we were there, so they aren't willing to make a whole lot of deals. But the service was excellent, so no complaints.

Free car washes on the weekend (they open up the garage and provide everything to you), free drinks, free loaners while they do work, and when you need servicing done and you're from out of town, they'll pay for a hotel for the night for you. All in all, very impressive, especially after the lackluster service we got at Kia.

not sure about the deal you got, you added alot of accessories, and only got 550 off, id say thats the markup on all those accessories, so you basically got the accessories for cost. Thus they made the full profit on the car off you, which is like 2300 dollars. The dealer is Laughing!

[snowles]

not sure about the deal you got, you added alot of accessories, and only got 550 off, id say thats the markup on all those accessories, so you basically got the accessories for cost. Thus they made the full profit on the car off you, which is like 2300 dollars. The dealer is Laughing!

and like I said, they're selling like crazy, so there's not a whole lot of room for negotiations since quotas are being made so easily. It's about the overall price to get a new vehicle I was planning on buying anyways, so to save anything was good enough.

[SPARTACVS]

I don t know for reliability, but for safety, anything that is non japenese is generally far behind according to IIHS institute. The elantra is very well rated. But the accent is far behind a honda fit.

[Hybrid88]

I'm guessing winning the North American Car of the Year and Canada Car of the Year is a bad thing? POS... hrm.. guess all those automotive journalists got it wrong and should have voted for the TL? Wait, Acura wasn't even on the nomination list was it?

This is a Hyundai deal thread and take your fanboy comments else where.

hyundai is POS always has been , not sure why you're surprised?

[mxz600]

and like I said, they're selling like crazy, so there's not a whole lot of room for negotiations since quotas are being made so easily. It's about the overall price to get a new vehicle I was planning on buying anyways, so to save anything was good enough.

ya, I hear ya, they won't even do a dime where im from, I can't justify buying from them when Honda is willing to to a 1000 profit and give me the rest.

[CorsairMan]

ya, I hear ya, they won't even do a dime where im from, I can't justify buying from them when Honda is willing to to a 1000 profit and give me the rest.

I have started the price negotiation thing and I'll see how I can do. I got nowhere with the 'online' dealer. We are about $900 apart.

Included in my price was a $875 profit. Couple that with the holdback they will be getting after the sale is complete and the dealer would make a cool $1625 on the sale.

Personally, I think that is a lot. However the online dealer wants something like $2500 profit and that is a little much for a hyundai.

When it is all said and done, I won't budge too much on my price because there are other cars out there.

[luxome]

nice. i really like the Hyundai Genesis...sigh* Only if it was labelled with a "L" instead of an "H"

[162]

I got a Kia flyer with the Mississauga News this week that had the 2009 Kia Sedona for $19,995 "Cash Purchase Price"... I assume that's for the LX model, for which the MSRP is $26,745.

By comparison, the Hyundai Entourage shown at http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx is $24,395.

Keep in mind that the real-world fuel economy of the Sedona & Entourage is relatively poor compared to the Sienna. So despite the cheaper initial price, they may cost you more in the long run.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList2&make=Kia&model=Sedona
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList2&make=Hyundai&model=Entourage
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList2&make=Toyota&model=Sienna%202WD



1 or 2 miles to the gallon is nothing and when you take into account the standard features and price difference more than compensates the minute shortcoming.

[snowles]

ya, I hear ya, they won't even do a dime where im from, I can't justify buying from them when Honda is willing to to a 1000 profit and give me the rest.

My biggest problem is my location, there's not a lot of dealers in northwestern Ontario, and as far as the foreign models go, the next closest dealers are either in Sault Ste. Marie or Winnipeg, so I'm (and anyone else looking) not in a position to haggle between Hyundai dealers like those in the GTA.

For whatever reason, despite the massive unemployment in NWO, foreign vehicles, and especially SUVs are moving at a rapid pace. Between that, the higher delivery charges, the higher cost of gas and the lack of competition, there's rarely ever a chance for much haggling.

[Rehan]

1 or 2 miles to the gallon is nothing and when you take into account the standard features and price difference more than compensates the minute shortcoming. It's not just 1 or 2 mpg difference. If you look at the numbers at those links, the avg for Sedona is 16 mpg and the avg for Sienna is 20 mpg. If you drive 25,000 km per year that difference is $600 per year at the current price of gas.

But you're right, there are other factors involved also, like features, depreciation, maintenance costs, etc. There's more to it than just the gas.

[Won J Kim]

I person recmendde Hyndai cars. Not now, but then was very reliabel. Kia cars I think are maybe same finance. Will find on Victoria's Day holidays thouhts tomorrow and post same.

Thank you OP god fine.

[originalnutta]

I person recmendde Hyndai cars. Not now, but then was very reliabel. Kia cars I think are maybe same finance. Will find on Victoria's Day holidays thouhts tomorrow and post same.

Thank you OP god fine.

quoted for awesomeness.

[donjuancarlos]

If you guys are really serious about Hyundai's, you need to remember one thing:

Despite Hyundai's recent increase in quality and reliability, Hyundai resale value is bad. And I mean bad. Do some homework and call up an auto dealer and ask how much he'll give you as a trade in, if you are curious. I have a friend whose wife made him trade in his 3-year-old leather-seated Sonata (I think it was a 4-cylinder) for a Chrysler. It was in good shape but all he got was $2000 trade in for it. I think most could do a little better with some prodding, but still, Hyundais lose perceived value fast.

Therefore, if you plan on trading the car in 2-5 years down the road, you will lose all that money (and more) you think you saved by not going for a Honda or Toyota, etc.

If you are the type that likes to run the car until it dies, then by all means, many Hyundais are great deals.

[silentio]

and like I said, they're selling like crazy, so there's not a whole lot of room for negotiations since quotas are being made so easily. It's about the overall price to get a new vehicle I was planning on buying anyways, so to save anything was good enough.


The sonata has a 5 star safety rating. That is on par with the japanese cars.

Having said that, the sonata in the US has the electronic brake assist while the canadian version doesnt, for entry level sonata. Both are still 5 star crash safety rating.

[silentio]

I just got back from the Hyundai Dealer and feel like I was pumped full of *****

I am looking a the Santa Fe, either model from FWD to AWD 2.7 or 3.3 liter. I ask him what the dealership was gunna take off above the 3000 from the MANUFACTURER. He said that the dealership is kicking in money to get the price to 3000 off, and then proceeded to tell me about the 5 yr warranty and .9% for 5 years.

I said Honda has 4000 off CRV and the dealer is taking an additional off of 1400 dollars. Again, he said the managers had meetings with corporate head office and corp. asked what would they like to see, lower advertised pricing or other incentives like accessories or whatever... like i said BS!

So again, I said, "so theres no haggling" he said NOPE!

I don't know if hes being honust with me but all other dealers/company incentives are from the manufacturer, dealers still have there profit margin.

This dealer has moved 80 units in January, the most in my city, according to him anyway, next to Toyota.

What has others been getting off the santa fe over and above the 3000 off and .9% financing

Sad part of it all is, its the nicest, plushest, option rich vehicle we drove in all the small SUV's. Even this is a midsize. the price is comparable.

What do you all think?

According to the president of 1 hyndai dealership in Toronto, the dealers are paying part of the $3k themselves, but it is more like $500 of the $3k.

[hola2005]

op,

I switched from a 02 Civic to a 07 elantra (i did not like the new look/dash of the civic) and i've been totally satisfied.

Didn't click the dashboard ha; this is what the new Civic is all about - being futuristic. I have 06 Civic and whoever got with me in the car, said the car has a nice dashboard layout.

[CorsairMan]

According to the president of 1 hyndai dealership in Toronto, the dealers are paying part of the $3k themselves, but it is more like $500 of the $3k.

One constant about salespeople: They don't tell the truth. There is no way that a dealer pays ANYTHING on a Factory-To-Dealer incentive. Not one penny. If a sales guy said that to me I would just laugh.

Other untruths: The "Air Tax" is a tax on a car sale. It is not. Not one penny of that "Air Tax" gets remitted to any government agency.

[mxz600]

Well we've moved on from Hyundai, I emailed my story to all other hyundai dealers in the province and no takers, not even a PFO letter.

So Ive moved on to the Tribute with the nice interior. The Manager called me directly cus my salesman there took sick, so being an arogant loudmouth knowitall, I managed to hold my own over the phone, I said to him, I'm OK with you making a grand on a FWD tribute 4Cyl. hey its the market im in here, no recession, vehicles are selling well. So anyway, he said he would take a 1000 off, and there is 0% for 5 years. plus we get a student rebate of 750.

But why I write this is to share the BS they push.

He said theres not 2500 in this vehcile, he said "you kidding me, we don't make 10% on vehicles" this was after I told him I had Car Cost numbers.

He proceeded to say "08's and 07's had more money in them, but now 09's, the pricing is adjusted to be more competative. But when I read the thread in the automotive section, I beleive there is a post with invoice and MSRP numbers and it is indeed 2200 to 2500 in profit.

Hyundai is out, with there BS about the online price is it because they throw in money to get the rebates to 3000$. I despise liers, but they are all out for themselves i suppose.

Tribute comes to 453 a month for 60 or 209 biweekly.

any opinions? I know its a hyundai thread but theres no Mazda thread so...

[CorsairMan]

Well we've moved on from Hyundai, I emailed my story to all other hyundai dealers in the province and no takers, not even a PFO letter.

So Ive moved on to the Tribute with the nice interior. The Manager called me directly cus my salesman there took sick, so being an arogant loudmouth knowitall, I managed to hold my own over the phone, I said to him, I'm OK with you making a grand on a FWD tribute 4Cyl. hey its the market im in here, no recession, vehicles are selling well. So anyway, he said he would take a 1000 off, and there is 0% for 5 years. plus we get a student rebate of 750.

But why I write this is to share the BS they push.

He said theres not 2500 in this vehcile, he said "you kidding me, we don't make 10% on vehicles" this was after I told him I had Car Cost numbers.

He proceeded to say "08's and 07's had more money in them, but now 09's, the pricing is adjusted to be more competative. But when I read the thread in the automotive section, I beleive there is a post with invoice and MSRP numbers and it is indeed 2200 to 2500 in profit.

Hyundai is out, with there BS about the online price is it because they throw in money to get the rebates to 3000$. I despise liers, but they are all out for themselves i suppose.

Tribute comes to 453 a month for 60 or 209 biweekly.

any opinions? I know its a hyundai thread but theres no Mazda thread so...

That's the right thing to do - do not fall in love with a car; it will only cost you 1000s if you do! So move on if they are not interested in selling. My tactic has always been to leave the dealership and leave my contact numbers behind. It keeps the power in my hand and it gives them a guaranteed sale when they come back down to earth.

Anyhow - the tribute is the same as a Ford Escape so be sure to check out those numbers as well. The Escape may be cheaper and Ford may be offering a lot more incentives.

[mxz600]

That's the right thing to do - do not fall in love with a car; it will only cost you 1000s if you do! So move on if they are not interested in selling. My tactic has always been to leave the dealership and leave my contact numbers behind. It keeps the power in my hand and it gives them a guaranteed sale when they come back down to earth.

Anyhow - the tribute is the same as a Ford Escape so be sure to check out those numbers as well. The Escape may be cheaper and Ford may be offering a lot more incentives.

i don't mean to hijack this thread, but to lastly post on this and to reply to you, I think it hard to beleive that ford can match the discount seeing as they do not have student rebate, so there already behind the 8 ball with the 750 off student rebate.

before i got off the phone with the manager, I said "ok, i got your numbers, if thats the best than thats the best, I will take it into consideration with the other 2 vehicles im looking at. which is the CRV where they are taking off 1400 off over and above the 4000, but my wife don't like the seats or the interior, I have to agree, very dated. And well she fell in love with the santa fe, but i refuse to do business with that crowd with there lies and BS.

But if i was in there situation i would do the exact same thing as they have only 1 or 2 santa fe's on the lot and are selling great so..... good for them i supppose.

[mxz600]

I'll ask this here as its a general question about haggeling a best price,

when sitting down with the credit card out to make a security deposit on the vehicle, what should you ask for before diving in? bug deflector, mats, mud guards, remote starter, extended warranty (for free), get them to promise a rental or loaner every time the rigs in for warranty work, free undercoating, free oil changes..... etc etc.

theres alot of perks that you can ask for, what is reasonable, or what have others been able to swindle.

thanks.

[cyc1120]

Just came back from the Hyundai dealer (Montreal). I am looking at the Hyundai Accent GL (manual)

Got offered 500$ student rebate and another 4xx ish for winter tires (I can choose to have the price on the tires off the car if I want to). Total comes to 15 836.87 (before the tire thing) with tax and everything.

Do you guys think it's a good deal or should I negotiate more?

[auto-m8]

Be SURE to remind them that most manufacturers and dealers are starving for sales. Ask if they are reading the papers ????

Definitely shop around to see who has the best deal, price wise and financing wise.
As far as Hyundai, buy with your eyes open, buy for what you need now not just for future resale value,etc.
I bought a 2001 Elantra new for around 17.5 k in fall of 2000, maybe spent a total of 1500.00 on oil changes ,repairs, etc,etc. I don't really care if it dies tomorrow as my average monthly cost was around 197.00 to buy and maintain this car 'til now. It is still running O.K so monthly cost will continue to average down !!

Would I buy another, probably !!!!!!!!!!!!

[auto-m8]

Interesting that most critics of Hyundai probably have never, never owned one.

Drive - by appraisals, I would imagine !

[nabate]

Being quote these additional charges on the purchase of a Santa Fe... Anyone have any thoughts or recent experiences if these have been waived etc.

Delivery/Destination: $1,760 (Ontario)
Air Tax: $100
Gas Tax: $75
OMVIC Fee (Ontario's Governing Auto Board): $5
Vehicle Etch: $299

[boyoflondon]

Being quote these additional charges on the purchase of a Santa Fe... Anyone have any thoughts or recent experiences if these have been waived etc.

Delivery/Destination: $1,760 (Ontario)
Air Tax: $100
Gas Tax: $75
OMVIC Fee (Ontario's Governing Auto Board): $5
Vehicle Etch: $299

Delivery/destination you have to pay ......

Etch is a waste .... DO NOT pay this! Whatever the dealer might tell you, its an add on that dealers put in order to 'rape' customers.

I had to pay it when I got my car, but I really didn't want to complain too much about it as there was only a single vehicle available in ontario matching all the options I wanted.

[redbulldrinker]

Be SURE to remind them that most manufacturers and dealers are starving for sales. Ask if they are reading the papers ????

Definitely shop around to see who has the best deal, price wise and financing wise.
As far as Hyundai, buy with your eyes open, buy for what you need now not just for future resale value,etc.
I bought a 2001 Elantra new for around 17.5 k in fall of 2000, maybe spent a total of 1500.00 on oil changes ,repairs, etc,etc. I don't really care if it dies tomorrow as my average monthly cost was around 197.00 to buy and maintain this car 'til now. It is still running O.K so monthly cost will continue to average down !!

Would I buy another, probably !!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the same as me. I bougth mine in April 2001, still going stong. I had to replace a bearing in the front wheeel a few months ago, and an alternator 12 months ago, aside from that no problems.

AVg cost is about $200 a month so far.

I'd love a new car, but right now is probably not the right time to take on a car loan for no reason. I figure the car will run fine for another 2 years.

[CorsairMan]

Being quote these additional charges on the purchase of a Santa Fe... Anyone have any thoughts or recent experiences if these have been waived etc.

Delivery/Destination: $1,760 (Ontario)
Air Tax: $100
Gas Tax: $75
OMVIC Fee (Ontario's Governing Auto Board): $5
Vehicle Etch: $299

Delivery is something that is pretty much not going to be touched unless the dealer is way behind in sales.

Air "Tax" is not a tax in that it is not remitted to any government. It is to reimburse Honda (the manufacturer) for having to pay this tax. You DO NOT have to pay this.

The Gas Tax is remitted to the government upon the car being sold.

OMVIC Fee is yet another tax that actually gets remitted to the province.

Vehicle Etch is a dealer service that has dubious value at best. Some kid takes a metallic mask of your VIN number, places it on the windows and rubs an acid through the mask. It is supposed to make your car 'unsteal-able' but there are ways of removing this etching. You DO NOT have to pay for this.

HOWEVER - the dealer may not sell you the car unless you get all these things added on. They do not have to sell yoiu a car. Remember - you do not have to buy it either!

I present a 'final' offer amount that is inclusive of all taxes and 'fees' and get around all these post deal 'add ons'.

[kcotoulas]

My wife is taking the Santa Fe GLS FW drive for a test drive. I'll post the fees and such that they give to her. But she wont be haggling for a price

[Thalin]

We paid the following charges/taxes:
Admin fee $389 (this includes VIN etching + free tank of gas)
Air conditioning tax $100
Alberta recycling tire tax $20
D/D $1760
GST
Extras - Block heater $480 and lock nuts $72
Finanching charges at 0% interest for 4 years $45

We didn't complain about these charges as we pretty much got our 09 Santa Fe GL AWD at the wholesale CCC price minus the $3k rebate.

Break-in time for the Sante Fe is supposed to be 2000 km where it suggested not to exceed 88 km/h. I expect fuel economy should increase after this time however I doubt the EPA of 12.6 L/100km city driving will be attained.

[sweetlikechutny]

too bad its a hyundai

[silentio]

The one thing you should consider is that the resale value is low. While you may choose to drive the car into the ground, it also means the residual value, the value used to determine whether a car will be fixed by the insurance company in the event of a serious accident, is also lower than say a Toyota.

Bottom line: if in 4 years time the cost of repairs is 11k due to accient but because your Hyndai only has a residual value of 9k, then the insurance company will not fix it. They will term it a write off and mail a cheque for 9k. If you had a toyota with a higher residual value you might have been ok.

[gangus]

too bad its a hyundai

that's just a stupid comment.

[tkyoshi]

The one thing you should consider is that the resale value is low. While you may choose to drive the car into the ground, it also means the residual value, the value used to determine whether a car will be fixed by the insurance company in the event of a serious accident, is also lower than say a Toyota.

Bottom line: if in 4 years time the cost of repairs is 11k due to accient but because your Hyndai only has a residual value of 9k, then the insurance company will not fix it. They will term it a write off and mail a cheque for 9k. If you had a toyota with a higher residual value you might have been ok.

I think if the damage is that bad, I personally would probably want to take the cash and run. Unless you really have some attatchment to the car, it's never the same after a major collision repair.

[Billa-786]

I think if the damage is that bad, I personally would probably want to take the cash and run. Unless you really have some attatchment to the car, it's never the same after a major collision repair.

Agreed. And if you have more problems or things that need replacement, you can avoid that all together by taking the cash. you'd also have lower insurance premium, even a $20 difference/ mth amounts to $2400 in savings over 10 years.

[wedgin]

Anyone have any insight about the Elantra Touring model? I was at the Cambridge Centre and they had all the cars in there are I had a gander at it. I thought I was too tall for the car when I sat in it(I'm 6'2"), but the sales guy showed me it's adjustable up and down, so by the time he lowered it I had 3 - 4" of clearance. Is this a brand new model that you might have to worry about "early adopter" pains? I had been considering an Elantra, but the Touring has the hatch and pretty much anything else I might want in a vehicle.

[SQuiDLy]

Anyone have any insight about the Elantra Touring model? I was at the Cambridge Centre and they had all the cars in there are I had a gander at it. I thought I was too tall for the car when I sat in it(I'm 6'2"), but the sales guy showed me it's adjustable up and down, so by the time he lowered it I had 3 - 4" of clearance. Is this a brand new model that you might have to worry about "early adopter" pains? I had been considering an Elantra, but the Touring has the hatch and pretty much anything else I might want in a vehicle.

The Elantra Touring is the North American version of the Hyundai i30 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_i30), introduced in Europe in 2007...

[Danno2005]

Anyone have any insight about the Elantra Touring model? I was at the Cambridge Centre and they had all the cars in there are I had a gander at it. I thought I was too tall for the car when I sat in it(I'm 6'2"), but the sales guy showed me it's adjustable up and down, so by the time he lowered it I had 3 - 4" of clearance. Is this a brand new model that you might have to worry about "early adopter" pains? I had been considering an Elantra, but the Touring has the hatch and pretty much anything else I might want in a vehicle.

Just saw a test drive on the Touring on Motoring 2009 (TSN) today. They had nothing but positives about the car.

[QuadESL63]

Too bad the rear-wheel drive Genesis Coupe is not yet available :razz:

[PMREdmonton]

Are you sure about the Genesis Coupe? There was one at the dealer when I went on a test-drive of the Genesis Sedan this past Thursday in Edmonton. The car was pretty sharp looking although the grille treatment was quite a bit different than the sedan.

[silentio]

I think the middle isle on for the front of the genesis is a little too wide - it gives the illusion that the front seats for each side is very narrow.

[kcotoulas]

Just bought a Santa Fe 3.3L GLS FWD

MSRP $31045
Invoice Price $28859
Hyundai Discount $3000

Price $25859
Markup 500
Freight 1760
AC Tax 100
Gas Tax & Omvic 80

Total $28299 plus 13% taxes

OTD Price of $31978

[SQuiDLy]

Anyone bought an Accent 3-doors L or GL? Just curious to know how much I can try to negociate...
Thanks!

[kcotoulas]

Just quickly wanted to thank Mr.Disco, T-Man, nabate, Thalin and Ebtek for helping me get my price.
People like the ones mentioned are what make RFD just a great forum. :cheesygri

[kcotoulas]

Anyone bought an Accent 3-doors L or GL? Just curious to know how much I can try to negociate...
Thanks!

The easiest way to find out about what the price would approximately be is by making a membership at cars4u.com. Its all free and they include what discount they could get for you. I would subtract at least $700 from their discount to find what approximately would be your price. Again this is just to give you a general idea on pricing.

You have selected: 2009 Hyundai Accent Hatchback L Automatic
MSRP: $14,600.00
Total Options:
Total Basic Vehicle: $14,600.00
Discount: ($245.00)
Rebate: ($2,600.00)
cars4U.com Price: $11,755.00
Freight: $1,345.00
PDI: $0.00
Air Tax: $100.00
Fuel Tax: $75.00
Net Vehicle Price: $13,275.00
Administration Fee: $150.00
Trade Amount: $0.00
Lien On Trade: $0.00
Total Vehicle Price: $13,425.00
PST: $1,074.00
GST: $671.25
Deposit: ($350.00)
Total Cash Price: $14,820.25


2009 Hyundai Accent Hatchback GL Automatic
MSRP: $16,300.00
Total Options:
Total Basic Vehicle: $16,300.00
Discount: ($445.00)
Rebate: ($2,600.00)
cars4U.com Price: $13,255.00
Freight: $1,345.00
PDI: $0.00
Air Tax: $100.00
Fuel Tax: $75.00
Net Vehicle Price: $14,775.00
Administration Fee: $150.00
Trade Amount: $0.00
Lien On Trade: $0.00
Total Vehicle Price: $14,925.00
PST: $1,194.00
GST: $746.25
Deposit: ($350.00)
Total Cash Price: $16,515.25


I think cars4u had my Santa Fe listed to buy at $32800. Hyundai had it listed at $34000. And I got it under $32k. I think its the easiest way to get a general idea of how much a car will cost without getting an invoice for the car.

Then if you serious about buying it
I would recommend
Car Cost Canada (http://carcostcanada.com/1/en/default.asp)
APA (http://www.apa.ca/template.asp?lang=english)

[vipt2000]

My gf was offered $420.00/month for 48 months at 0.9%. Works out to be $20,132 OTR for 2009 Elantra GL Automatic.

The price included everything. Do you guys think it is a good deal? We offered at $18,000 and they told us that their margin is extremely low at only $1100. The price they offered us already contained a $845 dealer discount plus $3000 manufacture discount.

Do you think $20,132 is a good price? thanks.

[gemstone]

That is the price on the Hyundai website. It is full price.

$19,735.45 - price with taxes and levies
$418.75 @.09% for 48 months

The discount is $3500 right now.

[vipt2000]

That is the price on the Hyundai website. It is full price.

$19,735.45 - price with taxes and levies
$418.75 @.09% for 48 months

The discount is $3500 right now.

damn stealership. They told us that the discount is 3000 manufacture and 500 is their discount. I guess NO DEAL eh?

[silentio]

U should just do cost +$400. Many dealers allow that. $300 is a bit iffy.

[deano43]

My gf was offered $420.00/month for 48 months at 0.9%. Works out to be $20,132 OTR for 2009 Elantra GL Automatic.

The price included everything. Do you guys think it is a good deal? We offered at $18,000 and they told us that their margin is extremely low at only $1100. The price they offered us already contained a $845 dealer discount plus $3000 manufacture discount.

Do you think $20,132 is a good price? thanks.

bought this car in Vancouver with 7% pst out the door at $19078 and I didnt haggle very much, I probably couldnt got it for a hair under 19k if i pushed harder

[giltron]

Just bought a Santa Fe 3.3L GLS FWD

MSRP $31045
Invoice Price $28859
Hyundai Discount $3000

Price $25859
Markup 500
Freight 1760
AC Tax 100
Gas Tax & Omvic 80

Total $28299 plus 13% taxes

OTD Price of $31978


I have a question about that 3000 discount. Is this only for a cash purchase? Or does the 0% financing stack with this? (0% for 48 months is pretty sweet)

I went to a dealership and they gave me the cash quote with the 3000 discount but the default finance price didn't have this.
I looked at the AWD GL 3.3L V6 instead of the GLS.
and got this quote right off the bat (didn't try to haggle at all...I was really only looking to test drive that day):

30, 745
+ 1760 D &D
+ 484 Vehicle Registration
+ 100 Air Conditioning Tax
+ 75 Gas Tax
+ 5 OMVIC
+ 69 Locking Wheel Nuts
= 33 238

+ 4320.94 Tax (GST + PST)
= 37, 558.94


If the dealer is getting 3000 factory discount anyways, then I know I have a bit more room to bargin below the approx 30,583.00 wholesale. Also is the Vehicle Registration Fee just a money grab by the dealership?

[mystevees]

My gf was offered $420.00/month for 48 months at 0.9%. Works out to be $20,132 OTR for 2009 Elantra GL Automatic.

The price included everything. Do you guys think it is a good deal? We offered at $18,000 and they told us that their margin is extremely low at only $1100. The price they offered us already contained a $845 dealer discount plus $3000 manufacture discount.

Do you think $20,132 is a good price? thanks.

I just bought one as well but my car is a 5sp. I got it at $17790 out the door plus free oil changes for 5 yrs. The difference for the automatic is $1200 so add that if you're opt for the auto. I took the 3yr 0%.

[Firestarter]

I really like the Gensis Coupe. Did anyone find a deals on this car? It supposed to be avaliable this spring and I know people have mentioned seeing it as some dealerships already. :D

[superdsi]

$17812 out the door.

36 month financing.

[kcotoulas]

I have a question about that 3000 discount. Is this only for a cash purchase? Or does the 0% financing stack with this? (0% for 48 months is pretty sweet)

I went to a dealership and they gave me the cash quote with the 3000 discount but the default finance price didn't have this.
I looked at the AWD GL 3.3L V6 instead of the GLS.
and got this quote right off the bat (didn't try to haggle at all...I was really only looking to test drive that day):

30, 745
+ 1760 D &D
+ 484 Vehicle Registration
+ 100 Air Conditioning Tax
+ 75 Gas Tax
+ 5 OMVIC
+ 69 Locking Wheel Nuts
= 33 238

+ 4320.94 Tax (GST + PST)
= 37, 558.94


If the dealer is getting 3000 factory discount anyways, then I know I have a bit more room to bargin below the approx 30,583.00 wholesale. Also is the Vehicle Registration Fee just a money grab by the dealership?

If my numbers are correct AWD GL

MSRP 30,745

Invoice 28,723
minus 3,000 (Hyundai discount)
markup 500 (lots of people have gotten a markup of only $500 over invoice for Santa Fe recently)


Price $26 223 plus fees
Freight 1 760
AC 100
Gas 200 (AWD are $200, FWD are only $75)(but i believe people have been getting AWD cars for $75 and on Hyundai's site its only charging $75)
Omvic 5
-----------------

Price before taxes $28288 (Ontario 13%)

Total price $31965.4
(depending on how much haggling you do, it might be hard to get to $500 over invoice but I had no problem getting it) You should be able to get this car for $32 500 with no problem or price haggling at all.

This dealership didnt give you the $3000 Hyundai discount. The vehicle registration and wheel nuts are BS add-ons.

If you go on Hyundai's site and built it. It comes out to $33,538.40 with all fees included. There is no way, you should pay $4000 over Hyundai's website price. This could be the worst delearship ever

[kcotoulas]

Forgot to add that it is both 0% financing for 48 months and the Hyundai discount. Not one or the other

[giltron]

Forgot to add that it is both 0% financing for 48 months and the Hyundai discount. Not one or the other

Thanks alot. I now know alot better.

[jagsjay]

WOW Hyundai has slashed its prices again


sonata was 18 995 with 4 year 0% financing

its now 17 995 with 4 year 0% financing

crazy!

[right4you]

Does anyone know when 2010 Elantra will come out? And what will be the difference between 2009 and 2010 model?

[Danno2005]

WOW Hyundai has slashed its prices again


sonata was 18 995 with 4 year 0% financing

its now 17 995 with 4 year 0% financing

crazy!

Definitely some bait and switch going on here. The base model shows $4,000 discount while better trims show $3,500. Same with the Sanata Fe - base is $4,000 discount while better trims have a $3,000 discount. My guess is less than 5% sold are base models.

Makes for some nice splashy advertising I guess.

[vipt2000]

Definitely some bait and switch going on here. The base model shows $4,000 discount while better trims show $3,500. Same with the Sanata Fe - base is $4,000 discount while better trims have a $3,000 discount. My guess is less than 5% sold are base models.

Makes for some nice splashy advertising I guess.

totally true with the discounts...but the finance rate at 0% for 48month for Sonata, Tucson, and Sante Fe. I guess Hyundai don't get any bailouts from the Korean government.

I wonder what is the lowest price we can get with the Sonata GL with automatic? On their website, it is $24,447 OTR (included 13% taxes)

[sonypcs]

The sales girl just email me and tell me Elantra is offering 0 % financing plus 3500 - 4500 discount...you can play around with it..maybe you can get upto $ 5K discount on that..

[7jai]

do you guys think the sante fe is a good car to buy? especially with such great prices like these?

[jgmaull]

do you guys think the sante fe is a good car to buy? especially with such great prices like these?

When we went to Florida last month , we got one for a rental. Don't know which engine that it had in it, but it drove really nice, and surprisingly roomy. My husband has always been ANTI-Hyandai, but he has actually been pushing me to buy a santa fe. Don't know if i will or not, but it is definately on the list of options

[Danno2005]

do you guys think the sante fe is a good car to buy? especially with such great prices like these?

I would say so. Don't own one but checking reviews and the Hyundai forums, it seems to perform very well with minimal issues. Some transmission shift harshness reported by a couple of users, as well as some vibration from the tires, I think caused by the low end 18" Bridgestones on the Limiteds but nothing to make it a deal killer IMHO.

Note - it is due for a refresh/redesign in 2010.
3.5 liter engine and 4 cyl engine - 6- speed tranny as well. Revised body work as well.

2010 Santa Fe = 2010 RX350 killer?

[Prof]

totally true with the discounts...but the finance rate at 0% for 48month for Sonata, Tucson, and Sante Fe. I guess Hyundai don't get any bailouts from the Korean government.

I wonder what is the lowest price we can get with the Sonata GL with automatic? On their website, it is $24,447 OTR (included 13% taxes)

Exactly what I would like to know. I dropped by a dealer this week and was basically told it's list price on lower models. I wasn't pushing since I won't be buying this week. I'm not in a rush and I seem to recall 5yr then 6yr no interest financing last year. I can wait until April. I want something bigger than I'm driving and while I'm more a Toyota guy (owned 5 or 6), the combo of price/financing/warranty makes the 09 Sonata appealing. Cars4u shows about a $700 discount.

Anyone bought an 09 GL Auto?

[lbamboo]

I am interested in buying a Santa Fe and live in the GTA. Anyone else interested in buying? Maybe we can all get together to get a better price.

Does anyone know what the best rate offered for a Santa Fe out-the-door is so far?

[lazychild]

What you guys think about the "Genesis Coupe". It looks kindda like the "Infinit G35". But I guess much better price.

[Captain Snazzypants]

do you guys think the sante fe is a good car to buy? especially with such great prices like these?

I went to buy a Santa Fe 2.5 years ago and walked off the lot with a Tucson instead. I think the Tucson looks better, handles better, and actually seems to have more driver leg-room. For my 4-person family, it is perfect, and the 0% financing I got over 5 years, along with about $5000 in negotiated discounts left me very satisfied.

Very nice car, nice dealership (Bells Corners in Ottawa) and no issues to report so far. Give it a test drive, you may be surprised...

[silentio]

Exactly what I would like to know. I dropped by a dealer this week and was basically told it's list price on lower models. I wasn't pushing since I won't be buying this week. I'm not in a rush and I seem to recall 5yr then 6yr no interest financing last year. I can wait until April. I want something bigger than I'm driving and while I'm more a Toyota guy (owned 5 or 6), the combo of price/financing/warranty makes the 09 Sonata appealing. Cars4u shows about a $700 discount.

Anyone bought an 09 GL Auto?


If the rebate was $3k + 0% financing, cost +$400/500 would be $23500 out the door.

Now about $500 of that $3k amount according to my dealership was from the dealership itself. I dont know if this is true or not, but the $23500 is what another person on RFD also paid.

There should be no talk of paying MSRP - nobody pays that. If they insist on MSRP find another dealership. Just tell them u want cost +$400 or $500 - most dealerships are willing to go that route. The other thing is that if they dont have the color you want, then they may have to buy from another dealership in which case they cannot do cost +$400

There is something you should know: the canadian Sonata GL has no electronic stability control, while the US version has it for base model. It might be worth going down the US to get it, but if you take this route you better visit another thread on RFD for more info about that. I dont have link but it pops up every 2-3 weeks.

Car itself is excellent for the price - roughly the same price as a highend civic or corolla, with as many features and way more room. It is a pleasure to drive this compared to a corolla.

Whatever your choice, good luck.

[jagsjay]

totally true with the discounts...but the finance rate at 0% for 48month for Sonata, Tucson, and Sante Fe. I guess Hyundai don't get any bailouts from the Korean government.

I wonder what is the lowest price we can get with the Sonata GL with automatic? On their website, it is $24,447 OTR (included 13% taxes)

my friend got one for 24K otr with 13%tax, freight, registration, plates and full tank of gas

he had to wait a few weeks to get it cuz they ordered his color from another lot

[kcotoulas]

Santa Fe 2.7L GL 5 speed
Invoice 24,365 MSRP 25,995

Santa Fe 2.7L GL Auto
Invoice 25,827 MSRP 27,645

Santa Fe 3.3L GL
Invoice 26,855 MSRP 28,745

Santa Fe 3.3L GL AWD
Invoice 28,723 MSRP 30,745

Santa Fe 3.3L GLS
Invoice 28,859 MSRP 31,045

Santa Fe 3.3L GLS AWD
Invoice 30,718 MSRP 33,045

Santa Fe Limited
Invoice 32,949 MSRP 35,445

I believe the discount is $4000 for the 5 speed and $3000 for all other models

[sevenpoint]

I wasn't in the market for something in the Santa Fe's class, looking more for matrix etc, but i tried my luck making an offer for a base 5sp Santa Fe GL. Here is the negotiated deal:

27755 base price plus D+D
193.95 block heater (necessary in Alberta)
<4000>
150 Dealer participation (yes, this is in the CCC report)
120 Tire and air
Free VIN etch
5 year free Oil and sched service
500 dealer profit

Total before tax: 22968.95 with 0.9% 5 yr.

It was a chore getting there, but I think I got a great deal.

[silentio]

I rather get the Tuscon than the Sante Fe. The Sante Fe has a smaller engine than the Sonata, and both are 2 wheel drive.

Is the Tuscon AWD?

[kcotoulas]

I rather get the Tuscon than the Sante Fe. The Sante Fe has a smaller engine than the Sonata, and both are 2 wheel drive.

Is the Tuscon AWD?

All cars come in either FWD or AWD

SONATA Limited V6
Performance Features
3.3L DOHC V6 Engine (249 Horsepower)
5-Speed Automatic Transmission with SHIFTRONIC™
4-Wheel Disc Brakes


SANTA FE 3.3 LIMITED
Performance Features
On Demand All-wheel Drive
5-Speed Automatic Transmission with SHIFTRONIC™
3.3L DOHC V6 Engine
18” Aluminum Alloy Wheels

TUCSON Limited 4WD
Performance Features
4-Wheel Disc Brakes
4-Speed Automatic Transmission with SHIFTRONIC™
2.7L DOHC V6 Engine
Electronic 4 Wheel Drive System

[hommus]

What's the Invoice/Out the Door price on Tucson's? Likely looking at limited models or 25th anniversary.

[aliikram]

Deal is GREAT, but the challenge is finding the right vehicle too. I test drove an Elantra GL few days ago, and found it boxy and not that great on maneuverability for turns and lane changes.

Didn't have enough time on last visit, but maybe I should go back and try a Sonata.

[lfg]

For those of you in the market, I think the CR reports recent rating of the elantra is a nice feather in Hyundai's cap and will likely lead to more sales of the elantra

[howardis]

I'm curious if anyone has purchased a santa fe ltd 3.3 in the GTA recently and what the price was on the road. Also if I wanted to add some options like the cross rails and maybe a hitch, what kind of discounts are people getting on dealer installed options?

thanks

[victorwon]

I bought the 2008 limited 7-seater on Feb 6, with $6000 factory discount and $2000 dealer discount. $36500 OTD with all kinds of accessories - see my previous message for details.

[Rehan]

Has anyone purchased a Sonata recently? What kind of discounts are dealers offering besides the $3500-$4000 rebate?

Cars4u.com is giving a $1,165.00 discount on the 2009 Sonata GL (manual)... it's $21k OTD in Ontario. And of course there's 0% financing, too. Very tempting.

Are local dealers offering even better prices than that?

[hoanboy]

Anyone bought a 2009 Elantra GL Automatic lately?
What is the OTD price or invoice? Thanks a million.

[superdsi]

Anyone bought a 2009 Elantra GL Automatic lately?
What is the OTD price or invoice? Thanks a million.
MSRP:19,295.00
Educated guess: $18,100

Just bought a Hyundai GL Manual and the invoice price was around $17000.

Paid $17812 out the door. (taxes, license, everything)

$17725 cost of car plus license ($87) = $17812

Went in on January 31st at 4:30 and left after 6pm with done deal.
Did not take any crap like etching or warranty. The deal was straight up.
4.6% over invoice. Took the 36 month 0% interest.

I emailed a bunch of dealers in the area with what I was looking for
and went to the least creepy one. The guy was straight over an email so I gave him a chance. Negotiations were fine got about $300 off the intital price. I had no trade in. If you have a trade in you cannot make a deal.

[emlty]

Just to add to the success Hyundai stories:

I have a '98 Accent I bought brand new and 11 years later it is still going - over 200,000km on it. Automatic, never had any transmission issues, the only things I ever had to replace have been the usual stuff - brakes, shocks. Still has original muffler but that is starting to go I think I will have to replace it sooner rather than later.

I'm seriously considering getting a new car in the next month and Hyundai will likely be the one getting my business. I like what they are saying about the Elantra so might go for that.

[bandit373]

Anyone bought a 2009 Elantra GL Automatic lately?
What is the OTD price or invoice? Thanks a million.
MSRP:19,295.00
Educated guess: $18,100

Just bought a Hyundai GL Manual and the invoice price was around $17000.

Paid $17812 out the door. (taxes, license, everything)

$17725 cost of car plus license ($87) = $17812

Went in on January 31st at 4:30 and left after 6pm with done deal.
Did not take any crap like etching or warranty. The deal was straight up.
4.6% over invoice. Took the 36 month 0% interest.

I emailed a bunch of dealers in the area with what I was looking for
and went to the least creepy one. The guy was straight over an email so I gave him a chance. Negotiations were fine got about $300 off the intital price. I had no trade in. If you have a trade in you cannot make a deal.
I'm looking at the elantra limited....is there any administration fee or the like on the 0%/36?

[DrkMnX]

If anyone from the GTA is looking to purchase a Hyundai, I can hook you up with a good deal. PM me for details.

[silentio]

Just to add to the success Hyundai stories:

I have a '98 Accent I bought brand new and 11 years later it is still going - over 200,000km on it. Automatic, never had any transmission issues, the only things I ever had to replace have been the usual stuff - brakes, shocks. Still has original muffler but that is starting to go I think I will have to replace it sooner rather than later.

I'm seriously considering getting a new car in the next month and Hyundai will likely be the one getting my business. I like what they are saying about the Elantra so might go for that.


I think Hyundai's taking this opportunity in this type of economic times to lower the profit margin to entice people to try their cars. If they are satisfied with their new Hyundai purchases, they would become loyal customers later on.

It's a very smart move on their part.

[tdu]

I have an 03 Elantra, and am looking right now to get an 09 Accent. The Elantra has been a fantastic car. I just like being under warranty, and the gas mileage is quite a bit better on the accent so I thought it would be a good time to upgrade.

The discounts mentioned earlier in the threads is still on. It's not as high on the automatics, but it's still something like $2600.

[trader37]

There should be no talk of paying MSRP - nobody pays that. If they insist on MSRP find another dealership. Just tell them u want cost +$400 or $500 - most dealerships are willing to go that route.


How would one go about finding out the Dealer cost of a vehicle? I wouldn't think this is something they just give you?

[bandit373]

How would one go about finding out the Dealer cost of a vehicle? I wouldn't think this is something they just give you?
CarcostCanada or APA.

[Rehan]

I test drove the Sonata this afternoon...it was better than I thought it would be. The dealership is offering basically the same discount as what I posted earlier from Cars4u.com, but their admin fee is a little higher ($400).

I'm looking for a manual transmission GL, which is not a common configuration so it would take a week or two to get it. Still mulling over whether to go through with the purchase.

[Prof]

I test drove the Sonata this afternoon...it was better than I thought it would be. The dealership is offering basically the same discount as what I posted earlier from Cars4u.com, but their admin fee is a little higher ($400).

I'm looking for a manual transmission GL, which is not a common configuration so it would take a week or two to get it. Still mulling over whether to go through with the purchase.

When I read the Hyundai Canada site, the fine print clearly states that the freight charge ($1565 for me) includes shipping/PDI, admin fees and a tank of gas. Is it padding when extra is charged?

[saturnsw2]

hi
what has anyone been able to get a hyundai accent gl automatic for out the door?
with the power package?
thanks

[renhui]

Good to know, I am looking at the GL auto right now. :)

Any one knows if Hyundai's maintenance is expensive? I do like the 5 year warranty but don't want to get burned by costly maintenance.

Thanks.


I test drove the Sonata this afternoon...it was better than I thought it would be. The dealership is offering basically the same discount as what I posted earlier from Cars4u.com, but their admin fee is a little higher ($400).

[nyik]

How long is this discount on until? Does the discount apply to the Elantra Touring? Thinking of getting the perf package. IMO it's comparable to the Toyota Matrix for less $...

[silentio]

How would one go about finding out the Dealer cost of a vehicle? I wouldn't think this is something they just give you?


Check my other post 1 or 2 pages up. I gave you a very clear breakdown of what +$400-500 is for the sonata auto GL with $3k cashback with 0% financing out the door.

[Prof]

How long is this discount on until? Does the discount apply to the Elantra Touring? Thinking of getting the perf package. IMO it's comparable to the Toyota Matrix for less $...

Only applies to the sedan. The wagon/hatch is actually a different vehicle beneath the nameplate. It's new, so who knows when we'll see rebates. Financing is decent though.

[superdsi]

Good to know, I am looking at the GL auto right now.

Any one knows if Hyundai's maintenance is expensive? I do like the 5 year warranty but don't want to get burned by costly maintenance.
Thanks.

I just bought a new Elantra. My girlfriend and I both have had earlier year Elantras. No maintenance is needed. Her old 2001 Elantra has 263,000 km
on it and still going strong. We saw the deal with cash price plus financing so
decided to jump on it. Do a regular oil change for the first 100,000 km and have a mechanic look at it to keep your warranty in order if you wish and it will just go and go.

If you do all of the scheduled maintenance the dealer wants you to do you might as well just burn your money. It is a complete waste.

[tdu]

When I read the Hyundai Canada site, the fine print clearly states that the freight charge ($1565 for me) includes shipping/PDI, admin fees and a tank of gas. Is it padding when extra is charged?

Just an update. I actually bought an 09 Accent GL (Sport) since my last post lol. I decided to get back under warranty, and take advantage of the deals.

Now, the Hyundai site does NOT show the administration fees or gas taxes. They are supposed to be resolving this on the site as of April though and the site will show them in the quote. The freight fee is $1495 as far as I know. The extra on top of that you are seeing would like be the air tax because it's around $100.

The Administration fee $399.

The automatic Accent actually gets better milage than the standard believe it or not. In fact, it's milage is so good that it's exempt from the fuel tax. So that is why I can't tell you exactly what the fuel tax is because I didn't have to pay it.

Those are the only fees you won't see on the site though. They apologized and told me the site would be updated soon. I don't think you can ever really trust any car dealer, but the Hyundai dealers are pretty darn decent I find. They are shockingly up front, and even refer you to other places to get things like rims for cheaper. I never had any pressure applied to me either time I have bought a car from them. Not even on extended warranties, upgrades etc.

To answer the parts and maintence costs question, I don't find anything costs anymore than it did on any other car I have owned. All I ever had to replace on my Elantra was the brakes though which is pretty standard. The car was solid as a rock the whole times I owned it. Oil changes etc. are a standard price as far as I know. The schedule is the same as any other new vehicle.

[supsx]

Anyhow how low can you get a Hyundai Elantra in Toronto? and would it be a better deal to get a Limited?

[tdu]

With the current discounts and financing, you may have a problem finding 'deals' on new ones. I have found their prices to be pretty standard shopping at 4 dealers. I went an hour either direction from where I live to check them out.

[asingh70]

Hi All,
I am looking to buy ELANTRA GL. Can you guys post your ELANTRA GL Price?
Thx

[vipt2000]

With the current discounts and financing, you may have a problem finding 'deals' on new ones. I have found their prices to be pretty standard shopping at 4 dealers. I went an hour either direction from where I live to check them out.
Did you buy a Hyundai Accent GL sport already? See your post#301

[tdu]

Yes I did. I am just waiting for delivery. I wanted a certain colour, and I wanted one right off the boat (not from another dealer), so I have about a weeks wait.

[mattd]

anyone know if the dealership has to pay part of the retailer incentive part?

[sevenpoint]

CCC shows they have to pay $150 of these large rebates. The dealership also told me this, although one dealership lied and said it was $650.

[supsx]

CCC shows they have to pay $150 of these large rebates. The dealership also told me this, although one dealership lied and said it was $650.

Is that for the Elantra?

[dk1021]

Just went with my aunt to sign paper for an elantra today. Pretty good features for the price.

[LoveRFD]

Good to know, I am looking at the GL auto right now.

Any one knows if Hyundai's maintenance is expensive? I do like the 5 year warranty but don't want to get burned by costly maintenance.
Thanks.

I just bought a new Elantra. My girlfriend and I both have had earlier year Elantras. No maintenance is needed. Her old 2001 Elantra has 263,000 km
on it and still going strong. We saw the deal with cash price plus financing so
decided to jump on it. Do a regular oil change for the first 100,000 km and have a mechanic look at it to keep your warranty in order if you wish and it will just go and go.

If you do all of the scheduled maintenance the dealer wants you to do you might as well just burn your money. It is a complete waste.

Here's a link for Hyundai's maintenance schedule and cost:

http://www.waterlooautomall.com/files/images/hyundai/HyundaiMaintanceSchAug2008.pdf

[deano43]

Hi All,
I am looking to buy ELANTRA GL. Can you guys post your ELANTRA GL Price?
Thx

$19038 out the door in B.C. gl auto

[Cleankill]

$19k and you don't get side airbags & abs... not really a deal!

[bandit373]

anyone know if the dealership has to pay part of the retailer incentive part?according to CCC yes....$500.00 for the 3500.00 rebate (in MB) for the elantra limited

[rfdwatcher]

$19k and you don't get side airbags & abs... not really a deal!

True. Actually, I was surprised by that. I think those should be standard for modern cars...

[enforcerviper]

I just picked up my Elantra Limited. Approx 24K on the road, including Tint, Mud Guards (Front & Rear), OEM Remote Starter, Leather Treatment. 0% Financing for 36 Months. The Tint and Leather Treatment were thrown in free of charge because my car was not "clean" when I picked up.

I paid NO administration or finance fees. If the dealer is trying to charge you these fees they are lying.

I used the APA and bought the car $300 above invoice. It really was the best $68 I ever spent.

[Rehan]

I just picked up my Elantra Limited. Approx 24K on the road, including Tint, Mud Guards (Front & Rear), OEM Remote Starter. 0% Financing for 36 Months.

I paid NO administration or finance fees. If the dealer is trying to charge you these fees they are lying.

I used the APA and bought the car $300 above invoice. It really was the best $68 I ever spent. Congrats. Which dealership?

[enforcerviper]

according to CCC yes....$500.00 for the 3500.00 rebate (in MB) for the elantra limited

Remember the $3500 is off MSRP. When negotiating with an APA quote, you can only discount $3000 off INVOICE.

[burgerbone]

Here's a link for Hyundai's maintenance schedule and cost:

http://www.waterlooautomall.com/files/images/hyundai/HyundaiMaintanceSchAug2008.pdf

Maintenance for spark plugs?

Was looking at the Santa Fe maintenance prices..... WOW!!!

$247 just to look at the spark plugs....

$342 to replace them.....

And you wonder why the auto industry is in shambles.....

[enforcerviper]

Congrats. Which dealership?

Hyundai of Mississauga. I must say, they are very friendly. The buying experience was FAR FAR FAR better than the experience I had at Erin Park Lexus.

I'd buy another Hyundai from them easily. They treat you like family and were honest. I never expected that from a car dealer.

[Rehan]

Hyundai of Mississauga. I must say, they are very friendly. The buying experience was FAR FAR FAR better than the experience I had at Erin Park Lexus.

I'd buy another Hyundai from them easily. They treat you like family and were honest. I never expected that from a car dealer. Cool. Their service department is pretty good, too, if Harry is still running it. We used to take our Accent there and were always treated very well. Enjoy your Elantra. :)

[bandit373]

Remember the $3500 is off MSRP. When negotiating with an APA quote, you can only discount $3000 off INVOICE.
Right, that's similar to what the CCC report says. APA is of no use in MB, fyi.

[Danno2005]

Maintenance for spark plugs?

Was looking at the Santa Fe maintenance prices..... WOW!!!

$247 just to look at the spark plugs....

$342 to replace them.....

And you wonder why the auto industry is in shambles.....

Interesting that fuel tank air filters need changing and valves need adjusting on the 3.3 liter engine.

Can't think of one Ford, GM or Chrysler that needs this type of service.

And they're expensive services as well!!

Fuel tank filter service - $147.00 + tax .. Could be a DIY
Valve adjustment - $329.00 + tax .. Not a DIY

OUCH!! That would make me think twice about a Hyundai.....
Seems like they took a page out of the Honda service schedule book.

[tdu]

Hyundai of Mississauga. I must say, they are very friendly. The buying experience was FAR FAR FAR better than the experience I had at Erin Park Lexus.

I'd buy another Hyundai from them easily. They treat you like family and were honest. I never expected that from a car dealer.

My first Hyundai was from there. I have dealt with Newmarket Hyundai and bought my latest car from Orangeville Hyundai as well. I can tell you all 3 were fantastic.

There are people who are going to have problems with any dealer/brand. Everyone is looking for something in particular, and Hyundai might not be what they want. All I can say is my experiences with Hyundai have been fantastic. From buying, to the service. I have 2 family members and 2 friends who have purchased vehicles through them and would tell you the exact same thing. The difference from even TALKING to other companies dealerships was like night and day. As a younger person (32) who has only bought 3 new cars, I REALLY appreciate that. It's as someone else said in their post, it's the last thing I had come to expect from a dealer.

My Elantra will be going in for trade on my Accent when it arrives. It's a 2003 (bought used but under warranty), and the only signifigant work I had to do on it was to replace the front and back brakes. Which you would have to do on any other 6 year old car. The only other thing I can even recall taking it in for other than it's regular servicing was to get one of the seat belts untangled.

It's performed as good or better than the car I owned previously which was a 2000 Honda Civic.

I won't say Hyundai are perfect, but at least they are making real efforts to meet their customers needs. And it's showing in their sales.

[bandit373]

I just picked up my Elantra Limited. Approx 24K on the road, including Tint, Mud Guards (Front & Rear), OEM Remote Starter, Leather Treatment. 0% Financing for 36 Months. The Tint and Leather Treatment were thrown in free of charge because my car was not "clean" when I picked up.

I paid NO administration or finance fees. If the dealer is trying to charge you these fees they are lying.

I used the APA and bought the car $300 above invoice. It really was the best $68 I ever spent.

No finance fees as in none? No lien or registration fees to the financing institution?

How "approx" is that 24K because the MSRP taxes in is 24,678 w. block heater. Just curious because I'm planning to go back to the dealer to talk up a limited model as well.

OEM remote starter? I can't find that on the website, are you sure that's OEM?

[enforcerviper]

No finance fees as in none? No lien or registration fees to the financing institution?

How "approx" is that 24K because the MSRP taxes in is 24,678 w. block heater. Just curious because I'm planning to go back to the dealer to talk up a limited model as well.

OEM remote starter? I can't find that on the website, are you sure that's OEM?

Yes, NO finance fees. They initially wanted $75 admin finance fee, but they dropped it. Since the remote start is $599+tax installed, the dealer was making far more money on the remote starter than the car. Accessories have heavy markup. $599 is a lot for a simple 1 way unit with 2000' range.

About $24300 give or take a few bucks. On the road.

Yes the remote starter is 100% OEM. Go to hyundai forums for more information, it's only available in Canada. Call a dealer and ask.

It has to be installed at the dealer as it needs a scan tool to be installed. It will bypass the factory immobilizer and no wiring "hack job". (It comes with a plug in harness) The new remotes will replace the regular remotes, so you will need to give the regular remotes back.

The owners manual says it's a genuine Hyundai accessory and comes with a 3yr/60,000km warranty on the unit. The dealer must register the unit with Hyundai for the warranty. The remotes also bear a chrome Hyundai logo on them.

[bandit373]

Yes, NO finance fees. They initially wanted $75 admin finance fee, but they dropped it. Since the remote start is $599+tax installed, the dealer was making far more money on the remote starter than the car. Accessories have heavy markup. $599 is a lot for a simple 1 way unit with 2000' range.

About $24300 give or take a few bucks. On the road.

Yes the remote starter is 100% OEM. Go to hyundai forums for more information, it's only available in Canada. Call a dealer and ask.

It has to be installed at the dealer as it needs a scan tool to be installed. It will bypass the factory immobilizer and no wiring "hack job". (It comes with a plug in harness) The new remotes will replace the regular remotes, so you will need to give the regular remotes back.

The owners manual says it's a genuine Hyundai accessory and comes with a 3yr/60,000km warranty on the unit. The dealer must register the unit with Hyundai for the warranty. The remotes also bear a chrome Hyundai logo on them.

That's awesome info, thanks.

[Ctrl-Z]

Speaking of high maintanance costs, does the Hyundai Elantra still require timing belt replacement every 4 years?

[Rehan]

Speaking of high maintanance costs, does the Hyundai Elantra still require timing belt replacement every 4 years? The maintenance schedule from the link LoveRFD posted says it's required every 6 years/140k km and currently costs $303.83.

[silentio]

I just picked up my Elantra Limited. Approx 24K on the road, including Tint, Mud Guards (Front & Rear), OEM Remote Starter, Leather Treatment. 0% Financing for 36 Months. The Tint and Leather Treatment were thrown in free of charge because my car was not "clean" when I picked up.

I paid NO administration or finance fees. If the dealer is trying to charge you these fees they are lying.

I used the APA and bought the car $300 above invoice. It really was the best $68 I ever spent.


Im a little confused - with the sonata going for $23500 on the road, why would you buy the elantra which is smaller??

[tdu]

For exactly that reason. They are a nice mix of size and power. And are better on gas than the Sonata. When I bought mine it was because I wanted a car that was somewhere between a sedan and a compact. And didn't look at all like a sedan. The Elantra fits that bill.

[enforcerviper]

For exactly that reason. They are a nice mix of size and power. And are better on gas than the Sonata. When I bought mine it was because I wanted a car that was somewhere between a sedan and a compact. And didn't look at all like a sedan. The Elantra fits that bill.

Exactly. Also the Limited Elantra has way more options not found on the lower end Sonata. Leather, Climate Control, 16" Alloy Wheels etc.

[vipt2000]

Im a little confused - with the sonata going for $23500 on the road, why would you buy the elantra which is smaller??

Which model of the Sonata that is going for $23,500? GL with Automatic Package or GL sport?

On Hyundai website, the final prices on the road after $3,500 discount are as followed (no accessories upgraded):

- GL with Automatic Package $24,447.55
- GL Sport $27,046.55

If I can get the Sonata GL Sport for 24 OTR, I will jump on it right away.

I contacted APA for Ottawa area but they don't deal with Hyundai dealers.
They are only cover Toyota, Mazda and Nissan. What about Montreal area?

[MM33]

A question to those who took the 0% financing.

What info do they ask for? Is this a full-body cavity search kind of application or do they just run a credit check on your SIN number/name?

[Cleankill]

Don't you guys factor out the resale value?
Elentra is a nice car (big & roomy), but i would get a civic/corolla because they have better resale value, and cheaper to maintain (no timing belt).

[LoveRFD]

Don't you guys factor out the resale value?
Elentra is a nice car (big & roomy), but i would get a civic/corolla because they have better resale value, and cheaper to maintain (no timing belt).

Civic/Corolla doesn't use timing belt anymore?

[tdu]

Don't you guys factor out the resale value?
Elentra is a nice car (big & roomy), but i would get a civic/corolla because they have better resale value, and cheaper to maintain (no timing belt).

After owning an Elantra, and Civic, and now an Accent I would have to say the Accent or the Accent GLS is more comparable to the Civic. The Elantra has a lot more power than the Civic. It's kind of somewhere between a compact and a sedan, but closer to a sedan.

I got the fully loaded Accent GL Sport Automatic. With everything in, and the discount, it comes to around $17,000. The base model civic, which doesn't have close to the same amount of features is around $20,000.

My Accent has a air, sunroof, 16" alloy wheels, and fog lights (to point out a few features). For the just the addition of foglights and air, the Civic goes up to $23,000. So to get the close to the same feature set from the Honda, I would be looking at about $6,000 difference.

As Hyundai's reputation has got better, their resale value has improved. I buy what I see as the best 'overall' deal for my needs. The resale value is just one factor when such a large price difference exists. The warranty is a key factor for me, and the Hyundai warranty is better.

The service I got from Honda when I owned my last Honda was horrible. I would maybe still buy one of their cars if it was a better value for me, but I got pretty soured on them. But since owning a Hyundai since then, I just don't see the reason to go back. I'd likely look a Toyota for another option before I looked at Honda again.


EDIT: I just ran the Fit through Honda 'price and build' on their site in case it's a better comparison to the Accent Sport package. It comes out to over $22,000 for a comparable feature set.

[Spidey]

Anybody got feedback on the Veracrux. My wife and I are in the market for a 3 row vehicle. We dont have a Hyundai dealership locally so i cant go test drive one

[Spidey]

Don't you guys factor out the resale value?
Elentra is a nice car (big & roomy), but i would get a civic/corolla because they have better resale value, and cheaper to maintain (no timing belt).

Some people keep their vehicles for a long time, and dont care about resale value. Im one of them. I keep vehicles for as long as I can, and only trade in or up if I need to.

When I bought my minivan 8 years ago, I didnt care about resale value.

[direct-x]

Anybody got feedback on the Veracrux. My wife and I are in the market for a 3 row vehicle. We dont have a Hyundai dealership locally so i cant go test drive one

Gas guzzler.

It is a very nice vehicle, great ride, nice features, but the gas mileage is atrocious.

We opted for the 7 passenger Santa Fe for the wife, and the 5 passenger for myself.

[Spidey]

Gas guzzler.

It is a very nice vehicle, great ride, nice features, but the gas mileage is atrocious.

We opted for the 7 passenger Santa Fe for the wife, and the 5 passenger for myself.

Compared to what though, a 4 cylinder car, or other 3 row SUVs

The Sante Fe's dont come in 3 row anymore unfortuantly.

This is just another option we are looking at. We have test drove other 3 row CUVS some we like, some we didnt

[tdu]

Compared to what though, a 4 cylinder car, or other 3 row SUVs

The Sante Fe's dont come in 3 row anymore unfortuantly.

This is just another option we are looking at. We have test drove other 3 row CUVS some we like, some we didnt

This is what the Hyundai site lists:

Fuel Consumption Estimates (L/100km)
City - Automatic Transmission (FWD/AWD) 13.4
Highway - Automatic Transmission (FWD/AWD) 8.7

I don't really know what vehicle it competes with, so I don't know how it compares.

[jonathanq]

My wife and I traded in our 2006 Elantra GT and purchased a 2008 Veracruz Limited AWD.

We fell in love with it when we first saw it in the showroom. It drives well, handles fine (sure it's not like our Elantra...but you can't really compare the handling to a car with a sport tuned suspension). It has great power. The gas millage is "fine". I wouldn't say it is atrocious. We were getting about 9 or 10L/100km in our Elantra when we traded it in (this was in December - we had very cold temperatures, and snow on the ground..this seems to decrease millage).

We are getting around 14L/100km in all city driving right now. Maybe that is not great, but I don't mind - it's worth it. I am certainly not disappointed with that, given that it has a large engine and plenty of power.

Purchased it on a 0% loan too - which makes it even better :)

[laptop-tech]

Does anybody know the OTR price for a Tucson with auto ?

[snider]

Anyone deal with the guys from Bank St. Hyundai in Ottawa, I believe it's Dilawri's? I'm going in there to check out the Accent/Elantras today.

[tdu]

Off topic i have a 07 Elantra (the first year of the new model) and i love it besides the lack of an ipod hook up/aux jack in the stereo its been perfect for me. Fairly reasonable on gas as well. Being able to get the cash discount price AND finance at 0% is a pretty hot deal so far as i'm concerned. I wonder however if the cash discount applies to all trims of a given model or just the specific one listed.

My Accent Sport package was not 0%. I think it only applies to some models. The full discount only applies to the base models as well. Eg, an Accent L has the full discount, the Sport version has a $2600 discount. So they all have a nice discount, but not as big as on the Elantra L and the Accent L

For my Elentra (which is being traded), I bought a $75 stereo at Futureshop on clearance with the iPod hookup. That could solve your problems.

One other thing of note for anyone looking at Accents. If you are looking at the GL, seriously consider looking a the GL Sport which is what I ended up doing. It's under $2000 difference between the 2. But for that money you get:

-16" alloy wheels
-upgraded sport suspension
-sun roof
-fog lights
-Tinted glass

That is a crazy amount of upgrades for the price difference. I believe it's a similar situation with the Elentra GL and the GLS as well.

[snider]

$19038 out the door in B.C. gl auto

I ended up getting a pretty sweet deal on the 09 Elantra GL today I think. Regular price is 19K, they took 3K off for the promotion, I negotiated another thousand off the price, which the manager says they normally do not do except maybe on a busy Saturday where they're trying to push out as many cars as possible. I also got $3800 for my trade-in which is only worth $1600 book value and I'd be lucky to get $3000 for it selling publicly through autotrader.

So I ended up paying 11K + freight and taxes for a loaded Elantra GL, the manager said I got a smoking hot deal, I hope that's true. Also took advantage of the 36 months 0% financing :)

A friend of mine ended up paying about 25K after everything for a Honda Civic last year + 2.9% financing, I know an Elantra doesn't have the Civic name and resale value but considering that I'm paying 10K less (I'm not factoring in my trade-in) for a car of similar specs with 0% financing, I'd say it's a pretty good deal.

[tdu]

So I ended up paying 11K + freight and taxes for a loaded Elantra GL, the manager said I got a smoking hot deal, I hope that's true. Also took advantage of the 36 months 0% financing :)



Is that the deal with the 0%? That would be why I didn't get it then. My financing is not 36 months.

I 'sort of' got the extra $1000 you mention too. I just asked for more on my trade though in my case. Their offer on it was fair, but I thought I could get more. I voiced that letting them know the sale kind of depended on it, and they gave it to me right away.

So it sounds like trying to push for another $1000 may be worth it.

YOu will love your Elantra. If my budget had allowed, and I wasn't looking to get a smaller car I would have bought another. They are a super nice car.

I feel the same way about the resale value. In my case I saved at least $5000 over buying a Honda (to get the same feature set). And while I didn't get 0% financing, I did get a lower rate than what would have been on the comparable Honda. I likely saved another $500 or more there as well. I'd have to think when all said and done that will take the edge off any difference in the resale value.

[snider]

Is that the deal with the 0%? That would be why I didn't get it then. My financing is not 36 months.

I 'sort of' got the extra $1000 you mention too. I just asked for more on my trade though in my case. Their offer on it was fair, but I thought I could get more. I voiced that letting them know the sale kind of depended on it, and they gave it to me right away.

So it sounds like trying to push for another $1000 may be worth it.

YOu will love your Elantra. If my budget had allowed, and I wasn't looking to get a smaller car I would have bought another. They are a super nice car.

I feel the same way about the resale value. In my case I saved at least $5000 over buying a Honda (to get the same feature set). And while I didn't get 0% financing, I did get a lower rate than what would have been on the comparable Honda. I likely saved another $500 or more there as well. I'd have to think when all said and done that will take the edge off any difference in the resale value.

Yep, all this with the 0%, so I'm pretty happy. I was pleasantly suprised by the smooth ride when I took it out for a test drive, it seemed very sturdy and had decent acceleration. I also prefer the looks of the Elantra over the Accent, like going from a budget car to a mid-class car. The body style of the Elantra is much classier imo. I would have gotten the Touring instead but the discount didn't apply to it. I was surprised to see many people still buying the Elantra Touring at full price, I guess people will be willing to pay for what they really like despite better deals out there.

So basically, I ended up getting the GL automatic transmission for $15,300 from $19,300 then on top of that got a great deal for my trade-in, another 4k off which is more than what I would have gotten through auto-trader plus the hassles of a private sale. I don't think I could have squeezed any more out of them, believe me I tried.

Anyone who's bought an 09 Elantra GL recently, what do you think of the deal I got at $15,300 before freight + taxes, and not taking into account the amount I got for my trade-in? So basically $4,000 off the list price. I'm thiking that there was probably still a little more room to work with, hence why they gave a me a better deal for my trade-in than anticpated. Maybe some of you guys can get $4500 - $5000 off from this car's listed price? I don't know.

Yeah, about the resale value I'm hoping that this will be a keeper. From reading all reviews and testimonials, I don't see why it cannot be if taken good care of.

[trader37]

My gf just picked up a 09 Santa Fe GL (3.3 VG, Auto, 4x4, no sunroof, no leather), added the cargo cover and cargo mat for $32k(flat) out the door (all taxes, fees etc). There was a $3000 incentive, 0.9% financing for 60 or 0% for 48 and then they gave her another $1500 discount and gave her $4000 + tax for a trade in where the book value was $2900-3500.

We went in there looking to buy two vehicles. The Santa Fe for her and either the same for me or a Tuscon. No trade in for me but they said they would give me the exact same deal.

Thoughts? Was this a good/average/crappy deal? This is in BC - 12% gst+pst.

[santyclauz]

Went to the Hyundai dealership and got the following quote for an 09 Accent L Hatchback Auto.

MSRP: $10,995 (after $3600 cash adjustment)

I was told I had to pay an additional:
$1495 Destination and Freight
$249 Security etching (total protection) fee
$30 Tire Tax
$554.40 Licensing Fee
$55 Registration Fee
+12% BC tax ($1532.28)

After all is said and done, the price out the door is $14,910.00. Didn't seem like there was any room for negotiation whatsoever. Does anyone have any other experiences with the accent promotion? I'm wondering if I would be able to get any additional discounts?

[tdu]

Went to the Hyundai dealership and got the following quote for an 09 Accent L Hatchback Auto.

MSRP: $10,995 (after $3600 cash adjustment)

I was told I had to pay an additional:
$1495 Destination and Freight
$249 Security etching (total protection) fee
$30 Tire Tax
$554.40 Licensing Fee
$55 Registration Fee
+12% BC tax ($1532.28)

After all is said and done, the price out the door is $14,910.00. Didn't seem like there was any room for negotiation whatsoever. Does anyone have any other experiences with the accent promotion? I'm wondering if I would be able to get any additional discounts?

Those are a whole lot of fees I have never heard of. But you are in B.C. so I have no idea what the standard fees are there. I had to pay freight, air tax, and admin (and taxes). I have no idea what the etching fee, tire tax, licensing fee or registration fee are. Maybe someone from BC can give you more info.

[cyc1120]

Went to the Hyundai dealership and got the following quote for an 09 Accent L Hatchback Auto.

MSRP: $10,995 (after $3600 cash adjustment)

I was told I had to pay an additional:
$1495 Destination and Freight
$249 Security etching (total protection) fee
$30 Tire Tax
$554.40 Licensing Fee
$55 Registration Fee
+12% BC tax ($1532.28)

After all is said and done, the price out the door is $14,910.00. Didn't seem like there was any room for negotiation whatsoever. Does anyone have any other experiences with the accent promotion? I'm wondering if I would be able to get any additional discounts?
I'm not familiar with the extra fees that you have to pay in BC, but I got my GL (manual) out the door at 15 300 (with "free" winter tires). Try to go see another dealer to see if they are willing to negotiate with you.

[tdu]

I'm not familiar with the extra fees that you have to pay in BC, but I got my GL (manual) out the door at 15 300 (with "free" winter tires). Try to go see another dealer to see if they are willing to negotiate with you.

Ya, that price sounds really high for the L model.

[Rehan]

Off topic discussion moved to http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716784

[deano43]

[QUOTE=santyclauz;8466086]Went to the Hyundai dealership and got the following quote for an 09 Accent L Hatchback Auto.

MSRP: $10,995 (after $3600 cash adjustment)

I was told I had to pay an additional:
$1495 Destination and Freight
$249 Security etching (total protection) fee
$30 Tire Tax
$554.40 Licensing Fee
$55 Registration Fee
+12% BC tax ($1532.28)

After all is said and done, the price out the door is $14,910.00. Didn't seem like there was any room for negotiation whatsoever. Does anyone have any other experiences with the accent promotion? I'm wondering if I would be able to get any additional discounts?[/QUOT

My daughter bought the same model last June for 14200 out the door, that was with zero room to move, licensing fee? never had that one thrown at us, I just bought an Elantra gl recently and there was room to move on that one, try Jim Pattison Hyundai In PoCo
If you can afford it, do the numbers, I think you would be better off moving up to an Elantra for a little over 2 grand more, much more car for the money.

[tdu]

I will check my girlfriends bill of sale, but I believe the price you are quoting for your L is more than she paid for her GL. But again, I don't know anything about most of those fees. They definitely don't have some of those in Ontario.

[MM33]

A question to those who took the 0% financing.

What info do they ask for? Is this a full-body cavity search kind of application or do they just run a credit check on your SIN number/name?

anyone?

[snider]

anyone?

Licence, SIN Number, employer, what you do, how long you've worked there, your income, whether you rent or own, worth or your house.

Those are the main ones that I can remember.

[silentio]

They check credit history, as well as employment history. A 3rd party checks both so be factual about your employment (position, how long you worked there, and salary). You can always ask someone else to be a guarantor of the loan if needed.

[santyclauz]

I thought the $554.40 license fee was odd. On another piece of hand written paper in the dealership, the salesmen scribbled down something along the lines of finance fees as well.

[snider]

Here's a strong recommendation for you guys: Check out the deals from the National site before going in so that you are aware of the best offers available for your class.

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

There are some models with great discounts such as the Elantra L manual, $3850 off right off the bat, then you can try to negotiate further from there.

[silentio]

I thought the $554.40 license fee was odd. On another piece of hand written paper in the dealership, the salesmen scribbled down something along the lines of finance fees as well.

Obviously a scam. There are no such fees to the customer.

Which location was this?

[napoleon1769]

The banner says there is an accent for 9k. Why is the cheapest one that's on promotion 11k?

[tdu]

The banner says there is an accent for 9k. Why is the cheapest one that's on promotion 11k?

They are giving you the car price without the freight and fees. Annoying, but it's what most car companies do. The small print on most car ads will say the same thing. But, as mentioned above, if you want the exact prices just go through the 'build and price' function on their website. If you are going to a dealer, print it out and take it with you.

A few fees aren't showing on the site as mentioned earlier in the thread. From what they told me this will be fixed in April. So right now it could possibly be used as ammo to talk them down on the price. Almost everyone in this thread has been able to get more of a discount.

...except for the prices santyclauz is getting. I have no idea what it up with that quote, or those fees.

[Rehan]

They are giving you the car price without the freight and fees. Annoying, but it's what most car companies do. If you change the province option on Hyundai's site to BC, AB, or SK, it will show the price including the freight. Too bad that's not the law in all provinces.

[tdu]

If you change the province option on Hyundai's site to BC, AB, or SK, it will show the price including the freight. Too bad that's not the law in all provinces.

One other note, the freight charges are the same $1495 in every province as far as I know. Selecting BC or ON confirms that.

But it's the other fees you need to get clarification on.

[U4IA]

Anyone in the Edmonton area managed to get a good deal on a Sonata?

The one dealership we tried whined about how competive the market is and blah blah when we mentioned about getting a discount off the msrp (on top of the $3500)

And a ridiculous doc fee of $700 and whatever fees they quoted we just gave up and left...

[santyclauz]

The dealership that quoted me $554.40 for license fees was Jim Pattison Northshore.

They weren't very honest with me right off the bat though. Salesman told me I wouldn't need to pay A/C tax because the Accent L doesn't have A/C but they smuggled it in hoping I wouldn't find it. I found it because the monthly payments he quoted didn't add up to the total car cost. He admitted to it and said it was an "accident".

They were obviously trying to get you in and out of the door ASAP... test drive was a total of 5 minutes on a side street and that was IT.

Sales Manager at JP Northshore told me at $14,910, they were only making $200 profit which is obviously a lie because Langley Hyundai can sell at $14,200 and I'm sure they are still making a little bit of profit.

I went to Langley Hyundai today and got much better service and $14,200 as someone mentioned earlier.

[sears_sucks]

You gotta do your homework before you go into a hyundai dealer. They'll come out with wrong finance calculations and hidden fees like crazy. The worst is how everything is scribbled on a piece of paper or how they don't have a computer to figure everything else on the spot. It's annoying..then when you walk out the sales manager is like, is there anything else you can do. At that point just say, point me to the closest nissan dealer.

[renhui]

Thanks a lot guys.
Now I go through the hyundai maintenance manual and apparently the maintenance cost isn't that cheap.
First year is ~ 340!
Second year is ~650!
Third year is ~450!

Are these numbers normal for new cars? Especially how do they compare to that of a Corolla?





Here's a link for Hyundai's maintenance schedule and cost:

http://www.waterlooautomall.com/files/images/hyundai/HyundaiMaintanceSchAug2008.pdf

[hawkmasta]

Hey Renhui,

i was at a hyundai dealership yesterday and asked for the maintenance schedule and it looks like the one posted by LoveRFD. I asked specifically whether all the recommended stuff had to be done to keep the warranty intact and was told "the only thing that must be done is the oil changes at the required times, we're not looking to make money on you after your purchase".

I'm a little skeptical of this, can anyone comment on what is mandatory? I also have the understanding that if something major breaks during the 5 year bumper to bumper warranty, Hyundai covers all costs. Normal wear and tear stuff would obviously be up to car owner.

[Disada]

Thanks a lot guys.
Now I go through the hyundai maintenance manual and apparently the maintenance cost isn't that cheap.
First year is ~ 340!
Second year is ~650!
Third year is ~450!

Are these numbers normal for new cars? Especially how do they compare to that of a Corolla?

How many KMs do you drive a year? What types of services do you get done? If the first year is the price for 2 oil changes it's a bit high. If it's the price of 4 is it fine.

[tdu]

You gotta do your homework before you go into a hyundai dealer. They'll come out with wrong finance calculations and hidden fees like crazy. The worst is how everything is scribbled on a piece of paper or how they don't have a computer to figure everything else on the spot. It's annoying..then when you walk out the sales manager is like, is there anything else you can do. At that point just say, point me to the closest nissan dealer.

It's a shame to hear things vary so much across dealers. I got a very easy to read print out that broke down EVERY thing quite clearly. From each individual fee, to the total $ I would pay for my finance term. It matched the bill of sale I got when I bought the car.

As mentioned in other posts, this is the same service I received visiting 3 Hyundai dealers. Nothing hidden, nothing sneaky.

The other key thing that has been mentioned a few times is to use the "build and price" on the Hyundai Canada web site. The site is set up for every province. It won't give you all the fees and taxes yet, though they said it will be fixed by April. But it gives you the purchase price, the discount, the freight charges, total vehicle price, and the financing options/rates/totals. You should be taking this info to the dealers with you. I would be doing the same thing with ANY car I was looking at, not just Hyundai.


Regarding the servicing, I took my Elantra to Hyundai for a couple of years of it's service. I moved, and it wasn't quite a convenient to take it to the dealer so I started taking it to the Goodyear service center near my house. They say right on their web site it is ok to do this. The schedule Goodyear has posted for any new vehicles is the exact same schedule posted at the Hyundai dealership. And basically the exact same schedule my Honda had before it. The oil changes costed the exact same. As far as I know it's just a standard new vehicle maitainence schedule. It's not specific to Hyundai.

[ryosuke]

which hyundai dealership is best in bc?
i'm looking to purchase a Elantra GLS or Sonata GL Sport
what is the price i should be looking for? ie. the invoice price for both
thanks for any advice

[santyclauz]

which hyundai dealership is best in bc?
i'm looking to purchase a Elantra GLS or Sonata GL Sport
what is the price i should be looking for? ie. the invoice price for both
thanks for any advice

personally, I went to Open Road (Richmond) Hyundai, JP Northshore Hyundai, and Hyundai Langley within the last week. Hyundai Langley was by far the most up front. No games here. The first quote they gave me was almost their rock bottom already. But then again, I'm looking at the Accent Hatchback which has less room for negotiating then the cars you're interested in.

JP Northshore was a little sneaky and Open Road Richmond didn't seem eager to sell me the car (probably because the profit margin is too small and not worth their time?)

[napoleon1769]

How about Edmonton?

[dfharris]

I had an 02 Sonata and wish I had never bought it. The vehicle was nice enough but service was painful to the pocket book - almost every part on the vehicle had to be purchased from Hyundai as no aftermarket parts manufacturers make the parts.

A good example of how much more its cost was the rotors. The rotors were $175 each and were too thin to ever get machined. I went to 4 diff. shops and they were all shocked at the cost and that no one made after mark. parts so they had to call my dealership to order them. One service guy even commented that that was %50 dollars more than his Impala rotors and they could be machined 3 times.

Basically that was the same story for every part on the vehicle, the best was when my car needed an O2 sensor and there were none in North America - took two weeks to get.

So, my adivce to anyone who cares is to avoid Hyundai or lease it only as it is made cheap and designed to pull money in on parts and service.

Also, the TI value was a joke. I switched to an 06 Civic and am much, much happier.

[vrus]

I had an 02 Sonata

and these are 09.

[bandit373]

I just picked up my Elantra Limited. Approx 24K on the road, including Tint, Mud Guards (Front & Rear), OEM Remote Starter, Leather Treatment. 0% Financing for 36 Months. The Tint and Leather Treatment were thrown in free of charge because my car was not "clean" when I picked up.

I paid NO administration or finance fees. If the dealer is trying to charge you these fees they are lying.

I used the APA and bought the car $300 above invoice. It really was the best $68 I ever spent.
Yup that was a good deal....the best I could talk the dealer down to was 24,800 for block heater, mud guards (front + rear) and oem starter + 0%/36. We agreed to disagree when they wouldn't go for 24,500 OTR.

Off to another dealer I guess to try again.

[enforcerviper]

Yup that was a good deal....the best I could talk the dealer down to was 24,800 for block heater, mud guards (front + rear) and oem starter + 0%/36. We agreed to disagree when they wouldn't go for 24,500 OTR.

Off to another dealer I guess to try again.

That's still not a bad price considering my Tint and Leather Treatment was compensation for the car not being clean when I picked up.

My price did involve a lot of negotiation.

[gordholio]

and these are 09.

I guess it goes to show you that if you get screwed around, you don't forget, whether things have changed or not.
I have a 2000 Accent (bought used) and it's pretty good. A few repairs, but decent.

[callous]

I had an 02 Sonata and wish I had never bought it. The vehicle was nice enough but service was painful to the pocket book - almost every part on the vehicle had to be purchased from Hyundai as no aftermarket parts manufacturers make the parts.

A good example of how much more its cost was the rotors. The rotors were $175 each and were too thin to ever get machined. I went to 4 diff. shops and they were all shocked at the cost and that no one made after mark. parts so they had to call my dealership to order them. One service guy even commented that that was %50 dollars more than his Impala rotors and they could be machined 3 times.

Basically that was the same story for every part on the vehicle, the best was when my car needed an O2 sensor and there were none in North America - took two weeks to get.

So, my adivce to anyone who cares is to avoid Hyundai or lease it only as it is made cheap and designed to pull money in on parts and service.

Also, the TI value was a joke. I switched to an 06 Civic and am much, much happier.


Things started changing around 2003. Your experiences with a car that is 1-2 generations behind what is now 2009 doesnt reflect remotely the new model.

[bandit373]

That's still not a bad price considering my Tint and Leather Treatment was compensation for the car not being clean when I picked up.

My price did involve a lot of negotiation.
I'll give it a week....I don't NEED the car and they've had the same 2 limited's on the lot for over a month....so I'll keep my eye on it.

One way to look at it is it's MSRP + the true price of the starter +waived the lien fee for the financing and threw in the mud guards and over-priced blockheater

[Electone]

I had an 02 Sonata and wish I had never bought it. The vehicle was nice enough but service was painful to the pocket book - almost every part on the vehicle had to be purchased from Hyundai as no aftermarket parts manufacturers make the parts.

A good example of how much more its cost was the rotors. The rotors were $175 each and were too thin to ever get machined. I went to 4 diff. shops and they were all shocked at the cost and that no one made after mark. parts so they had to call my dealership to order them. One service guy even commented that that was %50 dollars more than his Impala rotors and they could be machined 3 times.

Basically that was the same story for every part on the vehicle, the best was when my car needed an O2 sensor and there were none in North America - took two weeks to get.

So, my adivce to anyone who cares is to avoid Hyundai or lease it only as it is made cheap and designed to pull money in on parts and service.

Also, the TI value was a joke. I switched to an 06 Civic and am much, much happier.

Everybody has a nightmare story with just about every car company out there. Sorry about your bad luck, but it is ridiculous to recommend that someone stay away from a manufacturer because of one person's poor experience. For every bad story, there are hundreds if not thousands of success stories that you never hear about. I've owned five Hyundais and only one of them was what I would consider to be unreliable: a 99 Elantra. I recommend Hyundai products whole-heartedly.

[Spidey]

This is what the Hyundai site lists:

Fuel Consumption Estimates (L/100km)
City - Automatic Transmission (FWD/AWD) 13.4
Highway - Automatic Transmission (FWD/AWD) 8.7

I don't really know what vehicle it competes with, so I don't know how it compares.

I dont think this would be any worse than any minivan out there, or if it is, not by much

Doesnt anyone user MPG anymore :lol:

[asingh70]

Hi Guys,
What other taxs need to pay top of GST and PST? Do i need to pay any other taxes top of these:
Delivery and Destination
Other Taxes & Levies
GST
PST
HST

Thanks

[MrDisco]

You should provide your location.

There's:
fuel tax
air tax
financing fees
freight/pdi
admin fees
GST/PST

[asingh70]

Location is Toronto

[tdu]

Location is Toronto

$1495 frieght

There is air tax if the model you are getting has AC. I think it was around $100.

Likely fuel tax depending on the model (some of the Accents are exempt because they get 50 mpg).

There was a $399 admin fee

I am north of you in Orangeville, and that is what I paid in the way of fees.

[asingh70]

Thanks Tdu.
I am looking Elentra GL. what is your deal?
Thx

[tdu]

Thanks Tdu.
I am looking Elentra GL. what is your deal?
Thx

I had an 2003 Elantra GT. They are a great car, and you will be quite happy I am sure.

It was just going out of warranty so I decided to trade it in. I decided I wanted something a little smaller and went with the Accent GL Sport.

I don't have the bill of sale here, but my price was basically the deal most people got. The discount on that model is $2600, then I got another $1000 off.

[enforcerviper]

There was a $399 admin fee



Sounds like BS. My dealer never charged such a fee.

[asingh70]

What kind of deal you got on your elantra GL?

Thx

[kcotoulas]

$1495 frieght

There is air tax if the model you are getting has AC. I think it was around $100.

Likely fuel tax depending on the model (some of the Accents are exempt because they get 50 mpg).

There was a $399 admin fee

I am north of you in Orangeville, and that is what I paid in the way of fees.

Also bought at Orangeville....and was quoted the $399 admin fee (also called vehicle etching) but this is BS. Got the car minus the fee.


All you should pay is
Freight 1495
AC Tax 100
Gas Tax & Omvic 80

Thats it...plus taxes

[dancom]

Does anyone in here own an ENTOURAGE minivan? Is it reliable? is it possible to negotiate the price lower than $26000 (after $9000 discount). Thanks.

[tdu]

Also bought at Orangeville....and was quoted the $399 admin fee (also called vehicle etching) but this is BS. Got the car minus the fee.


All you should pay is
Freight 1495
AC Tax 100
Gas Tax & Omvic 80

Thats it...plus taxes

Well I got the extra $1000 off, and extra on my trade. So I still did well. So I will have to chalk up the $399 to inexperience and deal with it.

[doingdeal]

Does anyone in here own an ENTOURAGE minivan? Is it reliable? is it possible to negotiate the price lower than $26000 (after $9000 discount). Thanks.

probably if you can find one I was told they are sold out in Western Canada. A few GLS LIMITED models left (only 8k discount) but most are demo's or shuttle vehicles..A few GL models at Eastern Canada but they won't ship it to Western part of Canada.:cry:

Just buy a kia pretty well the same vehicle I was quoted 23,200 out the lot cash price for an lx conveniance that was at kiacity calgary.

[nyik]

I'm a first time car buyer. Can I walk into a dealership, sit down with a sales guy and ask what he can offer me and if I don't like it walk out? And then go to another dealer and do the same thing? How can I tell if there's still more room for haggling, and when is the absolute lowest they can go?

For example, I have an eye on the Touring GL automatic package with mudguards. Doing a build/price on Hyundai Canada site, I get (with future financing), final price is $21,600 including delivery, $282/month, $0 down, term 60 months.

Would I be able to get it down to $250/mo? That would put it at roughly $19,000 total vehicle price (which would be one trim level lower). Can I go lower?? I mean, there's discounts and rebates left right and center, and I want to be able to take advantage of that as a consumer.

Thanks!!
Nelson

[santyclauz]

Does anyone know if the $500 on Hyundai's graduate rebate program is applicable to Hyundai Accents? (I am graduating in a month)

The website states this:

"Hyundai Auto Canada is offering the following discounts to all new graduates:

Save $500 on a new 2008 Tiburon, 2009 Elantra Touring, 2008 & 2009 Sonata, 2008 & 2009 Tucson and 2010 Genesis Coupe.

If you have graduated within the past two (2) years, or will graduate within four (4) months, you may be eligible for the Hyundai Auto Canada Graduate Rebate Program! Please see your local dealer for complete details. "

and also mentions immediately afterwards:

Eligible vehicles:

* All new unreported Hyundai automobiles including dealer demos, sold or leased to qualified individuals within the program period.

The two statements don't seem to agree as the first portion only lists a few select models. Does anybody have a take on this?

[enforcerviper]

I'm a first time car buyer. Can I walk into a dealership, sit down with a sales guy and ask what he can offer me and if I don't like it walk out? And then go to another dealer and do the same thing? How can I tell if there's still more room for haggling, and when is the absolute lowest they can go?

For example, I have an eye on the Touring GL automatic package with mudguards. Doing a build/price on Hyundai Canada site, I get (with future financing), final price is $21,600 including delivery, $282/month, $0 down, term 60 months.

Would I be able to get it down to $250/mo? That would put it at roughly $19,000 total vehicle price (which would be one trim level lower). Can I go lower?? I mean, there's discounts and rebates left right and center, and I want to be able to take advantage of that as a consumer.

Thanks!!
Nelson


Just use the APA. For most people it's a far better deal than you can haggle.

[silentio]

I'm a first time car buyer. Can I walk into a dealership, sit down with a sales guy and ask what he can offer me and if I don't like it walk out? And then go to another dealer and do the same thing? How can I tell if there's still more room for haggling, and when is the absolute lowest they can go?

For example, I have an eye on the Touring GL automatic package with mudguards. Doing a build/price on Hyundai Canada site, I get (with future financing), final price is $21,600 including delivery, $282/month, $0 down, term 60 months.

Would I be able to get it down to $250/mo? That would put it at roughly $19,000 total vehicle price (which would be one trim level lower). Can I go lower?? I mean, there's discounts and rebates left right and center, and I want to be able to take advantage of that as a consumer.

Thanks!!
Nelson


Just make sure you dont sign anything, unless you're committed to buying the whole car. You're here to shop only. You should find out the cost of the car to the dealership and pay $300-500 above that as a starter. The graduate discounting has nothign to do with the dealership (it is not paid by the dealership), so mention that only at the end after negotiations.

Dont ever sign because they tell you they need you to sign in order to show that you're serious about negotiating or some crap like that.

Check out hyundai canada's website to see the discounts offered on yoru car. Most of their cars have 0% financing for 4 years, meaning that money can accumulate interest for most of that time.

Car rusting proofing you shouldnt pay more than $400 for as that is one of their high markup items to make money. $350 is possible.

[MrDisco]

I'm a first time car buyer.

Please please please please please DO NOT walk into a dealership without arming yourself with lots of research.

1. Test drive a variety of vehicles. Do not commit to anyone no matter how nice they may seem.
2. Once you've driven the vehicles narrow it down to the one you want to buy. Read the forums at edmunds.com to see what real owners have to say about their car model.
3. Purchase a membership at apa.ca. Yes it will cost ~$70 but that is absolute peanutes compared to the thousands you are about to spend. From the apa request a price quote for the car you want to buy

Now the fun part :)

With the APA quote in hand you know exactly how much your car will cost and the maximum you should pay (it contains the invoice price and a haggle-free on the road price). Now is the time to sit down with a dealer only you're in the driver seat. Let them dance and jump through hoops to get your business.

Do not commit, do not feel pressured. They will attempt to bring out their 'closer' to try and get you to sign or put a deposit down. Say no or just walk out if you're not feeling comfortable.

You should never pay more than what your APA quote tells you.

good luck.

[cyc1120]

Does anyone know if the $500 on Hyundai's graduate rebate program is applicable to Hyundai Accents? (I am graduating in a month)

The website states this:

"Hyundai Auto Canada is offering the following discounts to all new graduates:

Save $500 on a new 2008 Tiburon, 2009 Elantra Touring, 2008 & 2009 Sonata, 2008 & 2009 Tucson and 2010 Genesis Coupe.

If you have graduated within the past two (2) years, or will graduate within four (4) months, you may be eligible for the Hyundai Auto Canada Graduate Rebate Program! Please see your local dealer for complete details. "

and also mentions immediately afterwards:

Eligible vehicles:

* All new unreported Hyundai automobiles including dealer demos, sold or leased to qualified individuals within the program period.

The two statements don't seem to agree as the first portion only lists a few select models. Does anybody have a take on this?

Yes you can use it for the Accent. I got 500$ off my Accent GL.

[skule123]

General question: so I'm going from a leased car of a given make to a purchased car of a given make. We're going to have to pay an overage fee, and hope to stick with the same make to have the dealership waive/pay our "give back the leased car fees + mileage overage".

Does this arrangement mean that we'll probably have a lot less leeway to do something like the APA arrangement? I'm thinking "obviously", just wanted to see if anyone else has been there and done that.

[santyclauz]

Yes you can use it for the Accent. I got 500$ off my Accent GL.

When did you buy your accent? The salesman I'm dealing with said it only applies to "2008 Tiburon, 2009 Elantra Touring, 2008 & 2009 Sonata, 2008 & 2009 Tucson and 2010 Genesis Coupe." Is this a recent change?

[rice_crust]

Please please please please please DO NOT walk into a dealership without arming yourself with lots of research.

1. Test drive a variety of vehicles. Do not commit to anyone no matter how nice they may seem.
2. Once you've driven the vehicles narrow it down to the one you want to buy. Read the forums at edmunds.com to see what real owners have to say about their car model.
3. Purchase a membership at apa.ca. Yes it will cost ~$70 but that is absolute peanutes compared to the thousands you are about to spend. From the apa request a price quote for the car you want to buy

Now the fun part :)

With the APA quote in hand you know exactly how much your car will cost and the maximum you should pay (it contains the invoice price and a haggle-free on the road price). Now is the time to sit down with a dealer only you're in the driver seat. Let them dance and jump through hoops to get your business.

Do not commit, do not feel pressured. They will attempt to bring out their 'closer' to try and get you to sign or put a deposit down. Say no or just walk out if you're not feeling comfortable.

You should never pay more than what your APA quote tells you.

good luck.

How useful is the APA membership though? Is it just for buying new cars or old cars as well? Their website does seem to offer some interesting things but it also seems a bit sketchy with the testimonials section...

[silentio]

Several other things:

Make sure that the car is checked off on form as "new" and not "used". Mistakes do happen but it is your responsibility to make sure you dont get screwed.

On same form on bottom is the max milege you will accept. Make sure it's under 50, so that you dont get a used/demo car. If they tell you that they have to buy the car from another dealer, thus the milege will be higher, because they dont carry that color, then try another dealership that has that model and color.

[nyik]

Thanks everyone for their advice! I'll definitely check out APA and also CCC.

silentio - what is the disadvantage of getting a demo car other than the obvious "it's been used/abused by test drivers"? Since any car depreciates quite a bit, wouldn't a demo car be a good deal because dealers would (I think) keep it well maintained? Wouldn't it be the equivalent of getting a very new "used" car?

Thanks a lot! (and sorry for kinda hijacking the hyundia thread)
Nelson

[4CMor]

First post, so please be gentle! Have decided to buy my wife a new Santa Fe GLS AWD. Been reading your posts and thank you for all the valuable information that has been passed along. Like most here, I'm happy to pay a fair price, but detest the games that have to be played to get there.

I will join APA and had a good experience with CCC last year, but don't know if I need both. I understand that CCC provides the actual cost to which you would add a $300-500 profit and hope to get a deal. If I get it right, APA will provide their price they will sell the car, does anyone know how this compares to Cars4U that also provides a price they arrange for you to pay? Finally, I think, do APA and Cars4U provide a good price including the few options we need?

[vipt2000]

Hyundai's current deals are definately great for those looking to finance. I picked up a Sonata GL Sport (4 cyl.) in December for 23,500 OTR cash price (MSRP 25,695). Mind you this was while they were offering the 4,000 cash purchase discount.

Great car, no real complaints. Fuel economy could be better though, 11-12L/100km, mixed driving (50/50ish). Hope it will get better with more kms and warmer weather.

That was great price! Is your OTR price of 23,500 include everything (PDI, Fees and 13% taxes) ? Or am I dreaming here? What are the accessories?

Would you mind share the dealer name with us? I have PM you as well.

Thank you.

[vipt2000]

I see you're in the GTA. I'm in SK and trying to figure the price paid before taxes/fees. Tax is 8% + 5% in Ontario correct meaning you paid just under $21000 w/rebates before taxes, correct? Did you need to grind much to get that price. It seems very low compared to MSRP.

Rebate is now $3K but low rate financing is available. Really like the add-ons to the Sonata in the sport model though I could live with the GL.
.


Yes correct, Ontario tax is 13%. It took a decent amount of negotiation, but it wasn't painful or tedious at all. The dealership seemed to really want my business due to end on month/year quotas (i'm assuming). I acutally made a final offer of 24,000, but told them I wasn't prepared to buy that day and wanted to shop around a bit more. They countered with 23,500 if I signed that day and I couldn't justify refusing such a fantastic deal.

I negotiated using an OTR figure, so didn't care what fees they added as long as the final figure was one that I was happy with. On bill of sale the following charges were added, if I remember correctly:

1415 freight/pdi
175 air tax
50 gas tax
5 omvic

Hope that helps.

Sorry I just looked in this thread and found your anwer. Would you still share the T.O. dealer with us or PM me.

Thank you.

[cyc1120]

When did you buy your accent? The salesman I'm dealing with said it only applies to "2008 Tiburon, 2009 Elantra Touring, 2008 & 2009 Sonata, 2008 & 2009 Tucson and 2010 Genesis Coupe." Is this a recent change?

I bought it a month ago.

[silentio]

Thanks everyone for their advice! I'll definitely check out APA and also CCC.

silentio - what is the disadvantage of getting a demo car other than the obvious "it's been used/abused by test drivers"? Since any car depreciates quite a bit, wouldn't a demo car be a good deal because dealers would (I think) keep it well maintained? Wouldn't it be the equivalent of getting a very new "used" car?

Thanks a lot! (and sorry for kinda hijacking the hyundia thread)
Nelson


I was only concerned that a dealership would put on a used car when you asked for a new car.

Some of the demo cars double as a ride to and from work for the sales people. Some dealerships will just joyride a demo car like it's a toy. You wouldnt buy a car from a local rental place, right?

[Frostie]

Just bought an 09 Elantra GLS and we are very pleased with the deal we got and the value of the vehicle. We test drove many makes/models and found that the Elantra was by far the best value for precieved quality and amount of features it had. Also, the price between the GL and the GLS made it a no brainer for the extra money, quite a few extra safety features, 4 wheel disc brakes and ABS.

I am interested to see if the there will be incentives on the Touring in the coming months, they look pretty sweet.

[asingh70]

Just bought an 09 Elantra GLS and we are very pleased with the deal we got and the value of the vehicle. We test drove many makes/models and found that the Elantra was by far the best value for precieved quality and amount of features it had. Also, the price between the GL and the GLS made it a no brainer for the extra money, quite a few extra safety features, 4 wheel disc brakes and ABS.

I am interested to see if the there will be incentives on the Touring in the coming months, they look pretty sweet.


Hi,
Can you please post your deal?

[Danno2005]

Just bought an 09 Elantra GLS and we are very pleased with the deal we got and the value of the vehicle. We test drove many makes/models and found that the Elantra was by far the best value for precieved quality and amount of features it had. Also, the price between the GL and the GLS made it a no brainer for the extra money, quite a few extra safety features, 4 wheel disc brakes and ABS.

I am interested to see if the there will be incentives on the Touring in the coming months, they look pretty sweet.

Ever think of a career in ad writing?

[antman59]

Some dealerships will just joyride a demo car like it's a toy. You wouldnt buy a car from a local rental place, right?

I helped my mom get a great deal on a Matrix from Toyota that was a former rental. No problem. Don't understand why people have problems with former rentals and demo. Someone might have driven fast and braked hard??? If it's under warranty their is nothing to worry about.

[tdu]

When did you buy your accent? The salesman I'm dealing with said it only applies to "2008 Tiburon, 2009 Elantra Touring, 2008 & 2009 Sonata, 2008 & 2009 Tucson and 2010 Genesis Coupe." Is this a recent change?

Tell them you have heard otherwise and you will contact a dealer who will give it to you. There is never any harm in asking, or even being demanding. If they don't give you what you want, you can just walk away. They want to make a sale. They don't want to see you walk away.

[epifanon]

Hi Folks,

Well after reading several posts on this site and collecting all the useful info, I pulled the trigger on a new Sante Fe 3.3 GL last night. I was OTR at 29,450. After the research, it was giving the dealership around 500 bucks which I think is fair. I also passed on all extra's i.e. VIN, Rust, etc.

Just and FYI in case someone is in the similiar position. I think it was a good deal, there may be better, but I'm satisfied.

Thanks all.

[4CMor]

Hi Folks,

Well after reading several posts on this site and collecting all the useful info, I pulled the trigger on a new Sante Fe 3.3 GL last night. I was OTR at 29,450. After the research, it was giving the dealership around 500 bucks which I think is fair. I also passed on all extra's i.e. VIN, Rust, etc.

Just and FYI in case someone is in the similiar position. I think it was a good deal, there may be better, but I'm satisfied.

Thanks all.


Congrats and enjoy. Can you please post the OTR without Sales Tax number for us as I am close to buying a Santa Fe GLS and would be happy with 5000 delaer profit. Many thanks.

[4CMor]

Congrats and enjoy. Can you please post the OTR without Sales Tax number for us as I am close to buying a Santa Fe GLS and would be happy with 5000 delaer profit. Many thanks.

Opps - meant $500 dealer profit. Hope I can negotiate better than I type!

[CorsairMan]

At the beginning of the month I negotiated a deal for a Sanata Fe limited. I think I got a pretty good deal as one dealer did not take it but the next dealer did.

Unfortunately for me, 2 weeks later (and 1 week before I was to take delivery) I lost my job. The dealership in question advertises a "Hyundai Assurance" policy whereby if you lose your job within 1 year of buying the car, you can take it back.

Well, I didn't even take delivery of the car! Needless to say, the finance manager was not very happy but asked for proof of me losing my job. Within 3 days he phoned me back and said that the deal was cancelled. He also refunded my deposit.

I just wanted to tell you this because I am VERY pleased with this company. They didn't mess around and unless their prices skyrocket, you can count on me to return to Hyundai once I get another job.

[robertoelcubano]

HI, I just got a 2009 Elantra GL w/Sport package, I use the prices from carcos canada and I gave the dealer $400 on top of the invoice price (I got it from carCost Canada), here are the details.

sale price:21034.00
Freight & PDI 1495.00
A/c Tax 100.00
Gas tax 75.00
Factory discount $3000.00 (you can't take the extra $500 as this is coming from the dealer and not from the factory (as per carcost Canada report and also the finance Manager from the dealer show me the disclaimer)
total not inc taxes: 19704.15 + taxes (Ontario)=22340.69
I gave the $400 cash on top of this price, I think I did good. I got the car from Pfaff Hyundai in woodbridge, they were very nice and the deal was done very quickly, now I just have to wait for my car, I wanted a BLack one and they have to order one.

[tdu]

robert, I feel you pain in the waiting lol. I wanted a specific colour too so I am waiting. They had a shipment coming right from the port, so I decided to wait an extra week and get one of those. I figured I might as well get one no one has even drove yet :) . It should hopefully be in sometime this week.

[robertoelcubano]

Hi, has anyone tried this extra protection? the dealer was trying to sell me this Paint protection, upholstery protection and rust protection with Sym - Tech, I did a search on the net and couldn't find much about it and for the most part people is saying that is just to make extra money for the dealer, I like to keep this car so I wouldn't mind doing the rust protection but if anyone knows what will be the best deal or if you used the one from Hyundai please let me know what will be the best deal and price.

Thanks.
Roberto.

[robertoelcubano]

robert, I feel you pain in the waiting lol. I wanted a specific colour too so I am waiting. They had a shipment coming right from the port, so I decided to wait an extra week and get one of those. I figured I might as well get one no one has even drove yet :) . It should hopefully be in sometime this week.

Thanks, they told me that the one I want it might take about 6 weeks and they ask me if I wanted to take the silver/Grey one and I said no and that I wanted the metalic/black one so he said he was going to try and get me one sooner but who knows. I would like to get one brand new as oppose to a use one but as long as it shows les than 25 kms in the odometer i'm happy!

[shakattack1056]

HI, I just got a 2009 Elantra GL w/Sport package, I use the prices from carcos canada and I gave the dealer $400 on top of the invoice price (I got it from carCost Canada), here are the details.

sale price:21034.00
Freight & PDI 1495.00
A/c Tax 100.00
Gas tax 75.00
Factory discount $3000.00 (you can't take the extra $500 as this is coming from the dealer and not from the factory (as per carcost Canada report and also the finance Manager from the dealer show me the disclaimer)
total not inc taxes: 19704.15 + taxes (Ontario)=22340.69
I gave the $400 cash on top of this price, I think I did good. I got the car from Pfaff Hyundai in woodbridge, they were very nice and the deal was done very quickly, now I just have to wait for my car, I wanted a BLack one and they have to order one.


Thanks for the info. Did you take the 36 months 0% finance route?

[sandviper]

Was that the GL with SPORT PACKAGE MANUAL OR AUTOMATIC?
That would make a differnce if its auto or manual?

[santyclauz]

Tell them you have heard otherwise and you will contact a dealer who will give it to you. There is never any harm in asking, or even being demanding. If they don't give you what you want, you can just walk away. They want to make a sale. They don't want to see you walk away.

I am able to confirm that the Graduate Rebate DOES NOT apply to the accent. All the dealerships have confirmed this and one has shown me a memo from Hyundai Canada saying: "as of March 3, 2009, the Grad rebate will be discontinued for the 09 Accent and Elantra sedans". It is not possible to get it because this is a Hyundai Canada Factory discount and the form required for the rebate only has selection boxes next to the eligible models.

[silentio]

Hi, has anyone tried this extra protection? the dealer was trying to sell me this Paint protection, upholstery protection and rust protection with Sym - Tech, I did a search on the net and couldn't find much about it and for the most part people is saying that is just to make extra money for the dealer, I like to keep this car so I wouldn't mind doing the rust protection but if anyone knows what will be the best deal or if you used the one from Hyundai please let me know what will be the best deal and price.

Thanks.
Roberto.


Yes, but for rust proofing only. Symtech has been around for many many years and is reputable. Did the dealer tell you that you have to get the car inspected every 2 years for the symtec warranty to be valid? Cost is $60-90 each inspection.

The dealer can do it for $350. I've gotten a quote for that.

[snider]

Hi, has anyone tried this extra protection? the dealer was trying to sell me this Paint protection, upholstery protection and rust protection with Sym - Tech, I did a search on the net and couldn't find much about it and for the most part people is saying that is just to make extra money for the dealer, I like to keep this car so I wouldn't mind doing the rust protection but if anyone knows what will be the best deal or if you used the one from Hyundai please let me know what will be the best deal and price.

Thanks.
Roberto.

With my new purchase, I took this deal there was a promotion with my dealer for $500 off from $1800 to $1300, plus 20 oil changes. I figured that 20 oil changes at $40 a pop = $800 so rust proofing + the other goodies for another $500 would be worth it. Having all the oil changes done at the dealer would also hold up the warranty better plus they do a more thorough job such as topping up all fluids + 19 point inspection or whatever, than simply having it done at Costco or Mr.Lube.

I realize that the resale value of Hyundais have not been up to par with Hondas or Toyotas, this is why I'm going to try to protect the car, take good care and try to keep my Elantra as long as possible. This model has gotten decent reviews of the past couple of years so I don't see why it cannot be reliable for years to come. If anyone's seen the 08 or 09 Elantra in black, it does look quite elegant to me, I can't wait to get my hands on it :)

[Ben311]

Hey Robert,

Good choice, I picked up the exact same car at the end of February. Automatic tranny, and black. I actually originally wanted the carbon grey but they would have had to order it. I saw the black one on the lot and selected that instead. I had to wait a few days for the grad rebate to be approved to pick it up. I went through APA and the total price before the grad rebate was right around what you paid, except they got a $300 profit. However, if you factor in the APA membership fee, they are roughly the same price. After the grad rebate, the final OTR price was about $22300. Glad I bought it just before the rebate was discontinued on the Elantra! Got the car at Hyundai of Oakville.

I am sure you are going to love your new car when you get it. We haven't had any problems yet and love to drive it. Good luck waiting--it's too bad that by the time you get it, it may be too warm to try out the heated seats!

HI, I just got a 2009 Elantra GL w/Sport package, I use the prices from carcos canada and I gave the dealer $400 on top of the invoice price (I got it from carCost Canada), here are the details.

sale price:21034.00
Freight & PDI 1495.00
A/c Tax 100.00
Gas tax 75.00
Factory discount $3000.00 (you can't take the extra $500 as this is coming from the dealer and not from the factory (as per carcost Canada report and also the finance Manager from the dealer show me the disclaimer)
total not inc taxes: 19704.15 + taxes (Ontario)=22340.69
I gave the $400 cash on top of this price, I think I did good. I got the car from Pfaff Hyundai in woodbridge, they were very nice and the deal was done very quickly, now I just have to wait for my car, I wanted a BLack one and they have to order one.

[tdu]

Thanks, they told me that the one I want it might take about 6 weeks and they ask me if I wanted to take the silver/Grey one and I said no and that I wanted the metalic/black one so he said he was going to try and get me one sooner but who knows. I would like to get one brand new as oppose to a use one but as long as it shows les than 25 kms in the odometer i'm happy!

I gotta give you a warning to be cautious with that black finish. My girlfriend got the black and it shows even the smallest scuffs vividly. She has had to have a few buffed out already that you likely wouldn't even see on another colour.

I don't think it's a Hyundai issue, just an issue with black. Neither her nor I have ever owned a black car.

I am able to confirm that the Graduate Rebate DOES NOT apply to the accent. All the dealerships have confirmed this and one has shown me a memo from Hyundai Canada saying: "as of March 3, 2009, the Grad rebate will be discontinued for the 09 Accent and Elantra sedans". It is not possible to get it because this is a Hyundai Canada Factory discount and the form required for the rebate only has selection boxes next to the eligible models.

That's too bad that you just missed it. I read on another forum about people getting that discount on 08's, but there was nothing current about 09's. So that answers that question.

[tdu]

I gotta give you a warning to be cautious with that black finish. My girlfriend got the black and it shows even the smallest scuffs vividly. She has had to have a few buffed out already that you likely wouldn't even see on another colour.

I don't think it's a Hyundai issue, just an issue with black. Neither her nor I have ever owned a black car.



That's too bad that you just missed it. I read on another forum about people getting that discount on 08's, but there was nothing current about 09's. So that answers that question.


I have to decide what to do about the rust proofing on mine as well. The 03 Eleantra I am trading in shows no signs of rust. But my 2000 Honda Civic had tiny rust specs on it after only 4 years believe it or not. So it does make me worry.

[RunnerForDeals]

Looks like this thread is helping Hyundai...you penny pinchers pushed Hyundai to a 26% sales gain for the month of March. Well done!

Link (http://www.damianpenny.com/archived/012934.html)

[tdu]

Looks like this thread is helping Hyundai...you penny pinchers pushed Hyundai to a 26% sales gain for the month of March. Well done!

Link (http://www.damianpenny.com/archived/012934.html)

Actually, they were up 30% 2 months before that if I remember correctly. I read an article in the business section of the Star about all the declines in sales. Then the last line in the article said Hyundai was UP 30%.

[RunnerForDeals]

Actually, they were up 30% 2 months before that if I remember correctly. I read an article in the business section of the Star about all the declines in sales. Then the last line in the article said Hyundai was UP 30%.

Not sure if you were trying to say my number was wrong or simply trying to put more support behind it. Either way Hyundai is having a record year, again...

I think this is great for all of us (consumers) and for them and thought everyone should know.

[tdu]

Not sure if you were trying to say my number was wrong or simply trying to put more support behind it. Either way Hyundai is having a record year, again...

I think this is great for all of us (consumers) and for them and thought everyone should know.

No, just pointing out that they seem to be maintaining the momentum.

I don't want to cross back over into the 'domestic vs import' thread, but the other companies should really be watching whatever Hyundai is doing closely to learn. The other companies do offer models in a similar price range as the Hyundai's. There is especially competition with comparable models to the Accent. So it's not really strictly a 'penny pincher' issue. Most of us are either repeat Hyundai owners, or buying from Hyundai first time, because of the service and incentives we receive. This is the service I wasn't getting from the other dealers.

[kleptodathief]

im not much of a hyunDIE fan but those new tibbies look pretty sleek/sexy

[robertoelcubano]

Hey Robert,

Good choice, I picked up the exact same car at the end of February. Automatic tranny, and black. I actually originally wanted the carbon grey but they would have had to order it. I saw the black one on the lot and selected that instead. I had to wait a few days for the grad rebate to be approved to pick it up. I went through APA and the total price before the grad rebate was right around what you paid, except they got a $300 profit. However, if you factor in the APA membership fee, they are roughly the same price. After the grad rebate, the final OTR price was about $22300. Glad I bought it just before the rebate was discontinued on the Elantra! Got the car at Hyundai of Oakville.

I am sure you are going to love your new car when you get it. We haven't had any problems yet and love to drive it. Good luck waiting--it's too bad that by the time you get it, it may be too warm to try out the heated seats!

Hi Ben
Thanks for the info. how was the drive on the snow? did you get snow tires? I can't wait to get the car, I already went to look at some upgrades for the sound system but I have to wait a little bit more as they are not cheap.

[robertoelcubano]

Thanks for the info. Did you take the 36 months 0% finance route?

Hi,
No I was looking for a low monthly payment so I took the 60/84 plan they have, it gave a low monthly payment and I can always put more money when I get it and pay it off sooner if I can, the interest is only 2.75 so I'm not paying much on top of the cost of the car but if you can afford to get the 36 month @ 0% that will be the best.

[robertoelcubano]

Was that the GL with SPORT PACKAGE MANUAL OR AUTOMATIC?
That would make a differnce if its auto or manual?

Hi
It is a GL w/sport Auto, I wanted the manual but my wife can't drive it and I don't want her to learn on a new car LOL.

[evoviii]

They reduced the Genesis coupe financing to 2.55% up to 72 months.

[deano43]

Hi,
No I was looking for a low monthly payment so I took the 60/84 plan they have, it gave a low monthly payment and I can always put more money when I get it and pay it off sooner if I can, the interest is only 2.75 so I'm not paying much on top of the cost of the car but if you can afford to get the 36 month @ 0% that will be the best.

did the same thing, im paying $250 pm for a 2009 elantra gl auto and a $5800 payout, mortgage will be paid off by then hope to have extra cash by then

[bittermelon]

Hi Folks,

Well after reading several posts on this site and collecting all the useful info, I pulled the trigger on a new Sante Fe 3.3 GL last night. I was OTR at 29,450. After the research, it was giving the dealership around 500 bucks which I think is fair. I also passed on all extra's i.e. VIN, Rust, etc.

Just and FYI in case someone is in the similiar position. I think it was a good deal, there may be better, but I'm satisfied.

Thanks all.

Was this for the AWD or FWD GL? I'm interested in what people are paying for an AWD 3.3 GL.


Thanks

Bittermelon

[sonspot]

so the wifey was looking a the saturn vue but now the santa fe, question did anyone get the 3.3 fwd gls and what did you pay for it, any help would great, am in windsor but thinking of making a trip to the GTA..

thanks

[rysx]

so the wifey was looking a the saturn vue but now the santa fe, question did anyone get the 3.3 fwd gls and what did you pay for it, any help would great, am in windsor but thinking of making a trip to the GTA..

thanks

picked up that exact model in blue grey for $31800 out the door. so far extremely happy with it. have had it for 2 months now. only bad thing is the new car smell is startin to fade haha.

[nice4]

They reduced the Genesis coupe financing to 2.55% up to 72 months.

What's CASH deal on this new 2010 models ? very interesting.

[sonspot]

picked up that exact model in blue grey for $31800 out the door. so far extremely happy with it. have had it for 2 months now. only bad thing is the new car smell is startin to fade haha.

send me some info if you have the time, its the gls with sunroof right :),

[Gigit]

Not true on the discount and rebates being gone guys, not only is it valid, interest rates have dropped as of April 1st!! :D


As per my CarCostCanada report today and our visit at the Hyundai dealer this afternoon, the $3,500 rebate is still valid until April 30 2009 and now, on top of it, finance rates are down to 2.55% valid until April 30th. And yes, you can get both without them trying to pretend you cannot, so no bait and switch there.



Beware GM/Chevy/Pontiac. We have been to 2 Chevy Dealers and 2 Pontiac dealers and they are con artists BIG TIME. Lie about the factory rebates (right now ring in at 4,750 for Coblat and G5) 0% financing AND to top it off, 3 of the 4 tried to double charge of freight.

I hope GM gets what is coming to them, their dealers are very corrupt.

Hyundai doesn't have that oily feeling the other dealers do. Surem they are sales people and out to make a buck, just like we are out to save a buck... little cons like that lame 200 window etching fee etc, but overall, not trying to charge OVER MSRP, lie about rebates, lie about finance rates, and even worse, Hyundai isn't trying to charge us double on freight.

We have been to 2 Hyundai dealers, thus far we are working with the one on Upper James Hamilton mountain for the best deal on our trade-in. ;)

[Gigit]

PS! An extra $500 on top of the $3,500 if you are a new college graduate! For new college grads, that's 4 grand off sticker. Sweet deal to be made.

Edited to add: The rebates ARE Stackable!


The Graduate Rebate Program can be combined with any other available factory incentive. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.

[andrewsiv9]

Juat came back from the Hyundai dealership here is what i have to report:

The 500$ recent graduate offer IS NOT offered with the 3500$ rebate.

I am looking at getting a 2009 Elantra GL manual and i managed to bring the price down to about 365 a month for 48 months, which was a saving of (388 - 365) x 48months = 1100$

(the 388 being the price i get when pricing it online)

I am pretty sure i can bring it down to 360$ a month when i am serious to buy (probably this Monday)

If anyone wants me to scan the reciept when i get it PM me.

Also this includes all taxed freight etc for Quebec

[Gigit]

Juat came back from the Hyundai dealership here is what i have to report:

The 500$ recent graduate offer IS NOT offered with the 3500$ rebate.

I am looking at getting a 2009 Elantra GL manual and i managed to bring the price down to about 365 a month for 48 months, which was a saving of (388 - 365) x 48months = 1100$

(the 388 being the price i get when pricing it online)

I am pretty sure i can bring it down to 360$ a month when i am serious to buy (probably this Monday)

If anyone wants me to scan the reciept when i get it PM me.

Also this includes all taxed freight etc for Quebec


NO! They are lying to you!!!! The rebates ARE STACKABLE! Find another dealer, this one is a scam!


"The Graduate Rebate Program can be combined with any other available factory incentive. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount."

[perfchris]

Any details about any Tuscon rebates according to carcost?

Much appreciated !


Not true on the discount and rebates being gone guys, not only is it valid, interest rates have dropped as of April 1st!! :D


As per my CarCostCanada report today and our visit at the Hyundai dealer this afternoon, the $3,500 rebate is still valid until April 30 2009 and now, on top of it, finance rates are down to 2.55% valid until April 30th. And yes, you can get both without them trying to pretend you cannot, so no bait and switch there.



Beware GM/Chevy/Pontiac. We have been to 2 Chevy Dealers and 2 Pontiac dealers and they are con artists BIG TIME. Lie about the factory rebates (right now ring in at 4,750 for Coblat and G5) 0% financing AND to top it off, 3 of the 4 tried to double charge of freight.

I hope GM gets what is coming to them, their dealers are very corrupt.

Hyundai doesn't have that oily feeling the other dealers do. Surem they are sales people and out to make a buck, just like we are out to save a buck... little cons like that lame 200 window etching fee etc, but overall, not trying to charge OVER MSRP, lie about rebates, lie about finance rates, and even worse, Hyundai isn't trying to charge us double on freight.

We have been to 2 Hyundai dealers, thus far we are working with the one on Upper James Hamilton mountain for the best deal on our trade-in. ;)

[silentio]

Juat came back from the Hyundai dealership here is what i have to report:

The 500$ recent graduate offer IS NOT offered with the 3500$ rebate.

I am looking at getting a 2009 Elantra GL manual and i managed to bring the price down to about 365 a month for 48 months, which was a saving of (388 - 365) x 48months = 1100$

(the 388 being the price i get when pricing it online)

I am pretty sure i can bring it down to 360$ a month when i am serious to buy (probably this Monday)

If anyone wants me to scan the reciept when i get it PM me.

Also this includes all taxed freight etc for Quebec


You can always call up Hyundai canada and ask. The rebates both of them, come from the manufacturer. Obviously if it comes from them, then the dealer cannot say no.

[santyclauz]

The $500 graduate rebate is NOT applicable on the 09 Hyundai Accent and Elantra sedans. When I was at the dealership last week, the business office manager took out the memo sent to all dealerships as of March 3, 2009 saying it would be discontinued for those two models. The grad rebate form that you MUST fill out to get the rebate now does not even include the selection for Accent and Elantra sedan. They probably weren't making enough money.

However, I got the info from the dealership's own website (which they didn't update = false advertising). So I got them to partially honour the grad rebate on my Accent purchase (I got half of it $250). Dealership made $22profit on my sale. :cheesygri

[Gigit]

The $500 graduate rebate is NOT applicable on the 09 Hyundai Accent and Elantra sedans. When I was at the dealership last week, the business office manager took out the memo sent to all dealerships as of March 3, 2009 saying it would be discontinued for those two models. The grad rebate form that you MUST fill out to get the rebate now does not even include the selection for Accent and Elantra sedan. They probably weren't making enough money.

However, I got the info from the dealership's own website (which they didn't update = false advertising). So I got them to partially honour the grad rebate on my Accent purchase (I got half of it $250). Dealership made $22profit on my sale. :cheesygri

I promise you, I'm looking at the car cost sheet print out and this rebate is valid until April 30th. They honored it because they had to or they would loose a sale.


The salesmen and dealers are NOT YOUR FRIENDS. No matter how nice, how funny, how charming and how much they love your kids etc etc etc... they are there to take you for every dime they can, just like you are out to save every dime. They WILL lie, they do lie all the time and they are VERY GOOD AT IT... and honest people just cannot wrap their heads around this fact.

[Gigit]

Per Hyundai website very bottom of the page:

* Must have graduated within the last two (2) years or will graduate within four (4) months.
* The minimum certificate granted to the graduate must be a University degree, a diploma from a 2-year College program or in Quebec a CEGEP 3-year D.E.C. program.

Eligible vehicles:

* All new unreported Hyundai automobiles including dealer demos, sold or leased to qualified individuals within the program period.

Ineligible vehicles:

* Fleet/courtesy/daily rental vehicles.
* Used units of any make or model year.

Other rules and regulations surrounding the program:

* There is a lifetime limit of one graduate rebate per qualified buyer.
* The vehicle must be registered in the graduate's name.
* All other trade/customer rebates being offered at time of graduate purchase are available to the dealer/customer in addition to the graduate rebate on the sale or lease of a new Hyundai automobile.
* To qualify, customer must inform dealer of their eligibility


http://www.hyundaiofoakville.ca/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

[andrewsiv9]

I promise you, I'm looking at the car cost sheet print out and this rebate is valid until April 30th. They honored it because they had to or they would loose a sale.


The salesmen and dealers are NOT YOUR FRIENDS. No matter how nice, how funny, how charming and how much they love your kids etc etc etc... they are there to take you for every dime they can, just like you are out to save every dime. They WILL lie, they do lie all the time and they are VERY GOOD AT IT... and honest people just cannot wrap their heads around this fact.

where is this cost sheet? How can i get my hands on it? I am going monday to finish my purchase so i would love that extra 500$

However this is from hyundais website:

Graduate Rebate Program

Your parents warned you about the “real-world”. Now you’re in it.

Hyundai knows what it’s like. New job. New apartment. New student loan payments. New life. New wheels.

New wheels? Yes – that’s right! A brand new Hyundai!

Hyundai Auto Canada is offering the following discounts to all new graduates:

Save $500 on a new 2008 Tiburon, 2009 Elantra Touring, 2008 & 2009 Sonata, 2008 & 2009 Tucson and 2010 Genesis Coupe.

If you have graduated within the past two (2) years, or will graduate within four (4) months, you may be eligible for the Hyundai Auto Canada Graduate Rebate Program! Please see your local dealer for complete details.





So from what is written above only the elantra touring (which is not eligible for the 3500 cash back) can get the grad rebate.

Any help would be well appreciated!!!

[laptop-tech]

any details about any tuscon rebates according to carcost?

Much appreciated !

+1

[silentio]

where is this cost sheet? How can i get my hands on it? I am going monday to finish my purchase so i would love that extra 500$

However this is from hyundais website:

Graduate Rebate Program

Your parents warned you about the “real-world”. Now you’re in it.

Hyundai knows what it’s like. New job. New apartment. New student loan payments. New life. New wheels.

New wheels? Yes – that’s right! A brand new Hyundai!

Hyundai Auto Canada is offering the following discounts to all new graduates:

Save $500 on a new 2008 Tiburon, 2009 Elantra Touring, 2008 & 2009 Sonata, 2008 & 2009 Tucson and 2010 Genesis Coupe.

If you have graduated within the past two (2) years, or will graduate within four (4) months, you may be eligible for the Hyundai Auto Canada Graduate Rebate Program! Please see your local dealer for complete details.





So from what is written above only the elantra touring (which is not eligible for the 3500 cash back) can get the grad rebate.

Any help would be well appreciated!!!



I find it amusing Hyundai has a graduate discount on their luxery car too.

[Gigit]

Double checked my CarCostCanada report just now (see below) which was updated just this evening... the rebate for students is on my Elantra GLS 4 door sedan sheet. It *does* look like on the main website they have changed the verbage to show the Elantra touring model, it didn't even have that line before about what cars... Very "squishy" If you have a deal on the table and the rebate was on during negotiations, I'd fight for every dime of it. Otherwise, to be 100% maybe you can call Hyundai to find out.


While I'm not going to list the wholesale invoice cost on the Elantra GLS (it's a lower percentage than domestic mark ups think around the 3% mark) don't want to violate any ToS with CCC, however here is the MSRP end of things:

Retail Price *
Base $20,595.00
Freight $1,495.00
Optional equipment selected
FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00
Totals including all items above $22,190.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.


Current Factory Incentive Programs.

Security Deposit Waiver
$0.00 April 30, 2009

Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate
$3,500.00 April 30, 2009


Graduate Rebate Program
$500.00 April 30, 2009


Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.00% 24 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 0.00% 36 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 0.90% 48 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 60 April 30, 2009

Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 2.55% 60/84 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 72 April 30, 2009

Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 6.10% 24 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 6.10% 36 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 6.10% 48 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 6.10% 60 April 30, 2009

[sajkaj]

Hi guys,

just came from Hyundai Mississauga and they offered me Sante base model for 21000 OTR with all the discount ( included 500 graduate rebate ) plus option 36 months 0% or 60 months 0.9% financing.

Thanks guys for all the info sharing here.

Thanks

[laptop-tech]

Hi guys,

just came from Hyundai Mississauga and they offered me Sante base model for 21000 OTR with all the discount ( included 500 graduate rebate ) plus option 36 months 0% or 60 months 0.9% financing.

Thanks guys for all the info sharing here.

Thanks

auto or manual ?

[sajkaj]

auto or manual ?

auto

[tdu]

I took delivery of my Accent GLS on Saturday. As mentioned previous posts, I wanted a certain colour and I wanted less than 25 km on the odometer, so I waited for one to come in.

I am loving it so far. Definitely a noticeable difference in feel driving it over my girlfriend's GL. The extra I paid (which was under 2 grand I think) was well worth it. And that's just based on the driving feel, not the load of extra features that came for that price.

Anyway, it's not up to the same standard as the Elantra I had for comfort and drivability. But for the price is fantastic.

[axnguyen]

Thanks to the OP and all the posters in this thread! Girlfriend needed a cheap car, so we picked up an 09 Accent with the rebate and cheap financing..wow! On top of that, this dealer (Marostica Motors, Thunder Bay) gives a free cruise for two with every vehicle purchased or leased, so we'll be enjoying a vacation on them as well.

[sevenpoint]

Hi guys,

just came from Hyundai Mississauga and they offered me Sante base model for 21000 OTR with all the discount ( included 500 graduate rebate ) plus option 36 months 0% or 60 months 0.9% financing.

Thanks guys for all the info sharing here.

Thanks

Do you have any paperwork for this? This seems like a freaking crazy deal, considering wholesale on this vehicle after rebates is over $24000. I can't see any dealership losing $3000 on purpose. Was it used? a 2008?

Something seems fishy to me.

[juggie]

Ya more details on the santa fe please. Was looking at one.

[sonspot]

looking for some help here, can anyone with a santa fe pm me if they got a deal, am in windsor but willing to go out of town, the wifey went to the local dealer and they did not offer anything off other than the rebate plus we have a pacifica to trade in,.

the pacifica drives fine but she wants something new and smaller, if am going to lose maney on the trade in, i better get a good deal on the new car..

any help with OTD price would be great.

thanks

[sajkaj]

No paper work but he asked me for my budget and I told him under 20000, then he said if you r ready then we can go close to 21000 but not under 20000, I'm still doing my shopping but if anyone get any info plz post here.
Thanks in advance.

Edit: 0% financing for 48 months not for 36 months.



Do you have any paperwork for this? This seems like a freaking crazy deal, considering wholesale on this vehicle after rebates is over $24000. I can't see any dealership losing $3000 on purpose. Was it used? a 2008?

Something seems fishy to me.

[vipt2000]

No paper work but he asked me for my budget and I told him under 20000, then he said if you r ready then we can go close to 21000 but not under 20000, I'm still doing my shopping but if anyone get any info plz post here.
Thanks in advance.

Edit: 0% financing for 48 months not for 36 months.

Please post your deal. If you don't put any down payment, what is the monthly payment for 48 months?

btw, I just price on their website the OTR cost for 2009 SANTA FE 2.7 GL FWD Automatic in Ontario is $30,035.40. Like 'sevenpoint' said this is crazy deal. If you can get it for $24K OTR. I would like to order 1 as well. That is $6k off in additional to the $3k rebate.

See breakdown below on Hyundai website:

Vehicle Price $27,645.00
Cash Price Adjustment N/A
Other Cash Adjustment $3,000.00
Net Vehicle Price $24,645.00

Selected Accessories $0.00
Delivery and Destination $1,760.00
Other Taxes & Levies $175.00
GST $1,329.00
PST $2,126.40
HST N/A
Total Vehicle Price $30,035.40

[HockeyFan]

Aren't you better off getting the 0% financing with Honda for 5 years or 0% financing with Toyota for 3 years?

Unless of course you are after a particular hyundai model.

[a2vr6]

Aren't you better off getting the 0% financing with Honda for 5 years or 0% financing with Toyota for 3 years?

Unless of course you are after a particular hyundai model.

mmmmm, Genisis Coupe.....

[GateGuardian]

Please post your deal. If you don't put any down payment, what is the monthly payment for 48 months?

btw, I just price on their website the OTR cost for 2009 SANTA FE 2.7 GL FWD Automatic in Ontario is $30,035.40. Like 'sevenpoint' said this is crazy deal. If you can get it for $24K OTR. I would like to order 1 as well. That is $6k off in additional to the $3k rebate.

See breakdown below on Hyundai website:

Vehicle Price $27,645.00
Cash Price Adjustment N/A
Other Cash Adjustment $3,000.00
Net Vehicle Price $24,645.00

Selected Accessories $0.00
Delivery and Destination $1,760.00
Other Taxes & Levies $175.00
GST $1,329.00
PST $2,126.40
HST N/A
Total Vehicle Price $30,035.40


What does OTR mean??? thanks

[bizzyseller]

For those of you buying new Hyundai's, please be aware that they come FACTORY UNDERCOATED.

It may not be as comprehensive as a "permanent" Symtech, but its better than nothing.

[coriolis]

What does OTR mean??? thanks


On The Road.

After all fees, taxes, etc.


Oh, and any reports on the Genesis Coupe?


2.0T GT or 2.0T Premium Package :)

[4got10]

Aren't you better off getting the 0% financing with Honda for 5 years or 0% financing with Toyota for 3 years?

Unless of course you are after a particular hyundai model.

Mazda is also offering 0% for 60 months now. Now I am torn between a CX-7 and a Santa-Fe

[juggie]

Anyone deal with the guys from Bank St. Hyundai in Ottawa, I believe it's Dilawri's? I'm going in there to check out the Accent/Elantras today.

If you push Bank Street Hyundai, they will do 500-600 over invoice, even when i went to feel them out last week i got them to say 1200 off on a tucson on top of the rebate etc and i didnt even commit to their 'will you buy today if i get you this deal junk'. If their sign is correct they are the highest volume Hyundai in canada (which i find hard to believe but thats what it says)

[TimBittes]

Anybody know what happened to the 09 Entourage? Is this a discontinued model? I was considering this model late last year but have not seen any mention of an 09 in Canada (although there are US 09s).

Tim

[redflag999]

Aren't you better off getting the 0% financing with Honda for 5 years or 0% financing with Toyota for 3 years?

Unless of course you are after a particular hyundai model.

I just went to a Hyundai, Honda and Toyota dealer yesterday.

Only Hyundai gives you $3500 + 0% financing on the Elentra ($2600 for Accent). Both Honda and Toyota gives EITHER discount OR 0% (0.9%) financing, not both. No discount on Fit. No discount on Corolla.

So considering everything and if Hyundai is almost as good in terms of reliability as Honda and Toyata, it is a much better deal especially if you are keeping the car for more than 5 years.

So essentially you are getting a Elentra GLS for the price of a Fit or Yaris (with similar features)

Hyundai also have 5 years full warranty (3 years Road Side Assistance) compare to 3 years for Honda and Toyota.

Now all I need is to see if I can squeeze another $1000 off (or may get a free cruise for 2 like that Thunderbay dealer)

[redflag999]

Sounds like BS. My dealer never charged such a fee.

All 3 dealers (Hyundai, Honda, Toyata) have some sort of Admin fee or Dealer fee when I walked in yesterday, around $300-$400

[SickBeast]

I was quoted on an Elantra last week and I think the guy at Agincourt Hyundai tried to rip me off.

He quoted me $272/month OTR for an Elantra LE w/ auto, with a buyout of $6300 in 5 years (future value financing).

On the Hyundai website, it quoted me $250/month for the same car, with a final buyout of $6000 (same setup as above).

It's almost as though he *mistakenly* quoted me on the SE trim level. Oh, and what's that stupid $500 "etching" fee? Can that be waived?

I was looking at the Accent but it's pretty much the same price as the Elantra.

All that I want is a cheap car with auto and cruise control. I *hate* how they make you buy a higher trim level just to get cruise! On the Elantra, the $12,000 car becomes a $20,000 car very quickly!

What's the best Hyundai dealership in the GTA to get a good deal? Can you haggle with them to get lower than MSRP with the new sale they're having?

[redflag999]

I dont think this would be any worse than any minivan out there, or if it is, not by much

Doesnt anyone user MPG anymore :lol:

The only country using MPG is the US.

The Canadian car website quoting MPG is a joke as they still use 'Imperial' gallon instead of US gallon to inflate the number. To me that's just plain fraud as you can't but Imperial gallon of gas anywhere.

[blexann]

..are they offering the 0% financing + incentives on the Elantra Tourning ?

[SickBeast]

..are they offering the 0% financing + incentives on the Elantra Tourning ?

Only the 0% financing.

[silentio]

All 3 dealers (Hyundai, Honda, Toyata) have some sort of Admin fee or Dealer fee when I walked in yesterday, around $300-$400


This is a very basic thing - admin fees are optional. I never paid any admin/dealer fee for the car. Neither should you.

Go in there armed with the cost price for that car for dealership, then say you want to pay $400 above that cost. Most are willing to haggle around $400 - $500 above that cost, cost is not the MSRP.

If the dealerships know that you have their cost information, they are less likely to screw around with a customer.

[coriolis]

I was quoted on an Elantra last week and I think the guy at Agincourt Hyundai tried to rip me off.

He quoted me $272/month OTR for an Elantra LE w/ auto, with a buyout of $6300 in 5 years (future value financing).

On the Hyundai website, it quoted me $250/month for the same car, with a final buyout of $6000 (same setup as above).

It's almost as though he *mistakenly* quoted me on the SE trim level. Oh, and what's that stupid $500 "etching" fee? Can that be waived?

I was looking at the Accent but it's pretty much the same price as the Elantra.

All that I want is a cheap car with auto and cruise control. I *hate* how they make you buy a higher trim level just to get cruise! On the Elantra, the $12,000 car becomes a $20,000 car very quickly!

What's the best Hyundai dealership in the GTA to get a good deal? Can you haggle with them to get lower than MSRP with the new sale they're having?

I've gone to Don Valley North Hyundai as my aunt wanted to try the Elantra Touring, we had a fellow by the name of George, a really down to earth guy and he's pretty funny. Unforunately, we opted to get something else down the line, but he was pretty much a no frills salesman, he asked us straight away how much we know about the Touring so he didn't have to bore us. We did do our research so we went straight to the test drive!

I'm planning to go again to check out the Genesis Coupe, but I do want to be armed with a CCC report beforehand ;)

[bizzyseller]

Has anyone purchased a 2009 Sonata GL w/Auto package? What was the total price and breakdown?

Also, does anyone know the dealer cost?

[blindemboss]

The problem I have with Hyundai Canada is that on the Elantra Touring, electronic stability control is not available on any trim level.

This important safety feature is not offered here. It is available in the U.S. model.

[William W]

Anybody know what happened to the 09 Entourage? Is this a discontinued model? I was considering this model late last year but have not seen any mention of an 09 in Canada (although there are US 09s).

Tim

Alternatively, you can always go with a Kia Sedona, which is essentially the same Van.

[SickBeast]

The problem I have with Hyundai Canada is that on the Elantra Touring, electronic stability control is not available on any trim level.

This important safety feature is not offered here. It is available in the U.S. model.

Do you know if it's possible to import one from the US?

I was thinking about doing this, but I don't think you can do it because Hyundais are made in Korea and the Czech Republic. The duty fees would be huge.

Most cars are apparently cheaper in the US, with more features as well.

[evoviii]

I've gone to Don Valley North Hyundai as my aunt wanted to try the Elantra Touring, we had a fellow by the name of George, a really down to earth guy and he's pretty funny. Unforunately, we opted to get something else down the line, but he was pretty much a no frills salesman, he asked us straight away how much we know about the Touring so he didn't have to bore us. We did do our research so we went straight to the test drive!

I'm planning to go again to check out the Genesis Coupe, but I do want to be armed with a CCC report beforehand ;)

I spoke with him before as well. He seemed pretty straight up to the point I wasn't sure if it was real. Either way, it boils down to the OTR price and as long as there's no funny business he's going to get my business when I go get my gen coupe

[coriolis]

I spoke with him before as well. He seemed pretty straight up to the point I wasn't sure if it was real. Either way, it boils down to the OTR price and as long as there's no funny business he's going to get my business when I go get my gen coupe

Looking to hop into either a Nordschleife Grey or Karussell White 2.0T GT, but I hope to get a CCC report, so I can start crunching numbers.

Haven't had time to go for a test drive though, but the only one they had was a silver auto.

[Winnipeg_Jet]

This is a very basic thing - admin fees are optional. I never paid any admin/dealer fee for the car. Neither should you.

Go in there armed with the cost price for that car for dealership, then say you want to pay $400 above that cost. Most are willing to haggle around $400 - $500 above that cost, cost is not the MSRP.

If the dealerships know that you have their cost information, they are less likely to screw around with a customer.

WHERE do you find such information? I would like to know the cost price of the Hyundai models.. I will probably be buying an Accent as my first car (not until next year, so hopefully there are similar deals, if not I will wait out a similar deal on Hondas etc).. anyways, I would LOVE to be armed with this kind of info, so please, cough it up!

How much do you think I can expect to pay, compared to, say, the Hyundai Website? Ie. If I can build an Accent GL-Sport on there and the total vehicle price is $17,134.95 (although tax isn't included on the website) how much cheaper would I actually be able to get it? $400-500 above cost is the goal? Again.. where do I find cost? :)

[cyc1120]

WHERE do you find such information? I would like to know the cost price of the Hyundai models.. I will probably be buying an Accent as my first car (not until next year, so hopefully there are similar deals, if not I will wait out a similar deal on Hondas etc).. anyways, I would LOVE to be armed with this kind of info, so please, cough it up!

How much do you think I can expect to pay, compared to, say, the Hyundai Website? Ie. If I can build an Accent GL-Sport on there and the total vehicle price is $17,134.95 (although tax isn't included on the website) how much cheaper would I actually be able to get it? $400-500 above cost is the goal? Again.. where do I find cost? :)
You need to buy a report from carcostcanada.com

[juggie]

You need to buy a report from carcostcanada.com

It says you get 5 reports btw, but if you sign up you can get 3 more free for filling out a like 3 question survey.

[Winnipeg_Jet]

You need to buy a report from carcostcanada.com

I take it this site comes highly recommended?

[Spidey]

The only country using MPG is the US.

The Canadian car website quoting MPG is a joke as they still use 'Imperial' gallon instead of US gallon to inflate the number. To me that's just plain fraud as you can't but Imperial gallon of gas anywhere.

I know that, but go to any car show and you use litres per km and you will be kicked out :razz:

[sevenpoint]

I take it this site comes highly recommended?

Probably the best $40 i've ever spent. I saved at least $1600 and got 5yr free sched maintenance. But if you're really cheap, just go http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=484563 and see if what you're looking for has already been posted. But remember, these prices change so if it's over a month old it's probably not accurate.

And walking into a dealership with a printed CCC report is more proof than a forum post.

[hawkmasta]

I spoke with him before as well. He seemed pretty straight up to the point I wasn't sure if it was real. Either way, it boils down to the OTR price and as long as there's no funny business he's going to get my business when I go get my gen coupe

Hey Evoviii, so you've decided on the gencoupe? I was really intrigued by the car and was hoping for some government incentive but alas, none came. I'll be interested to know what kind of numbers Don Valley North can do versus the "#1 volume dealer in Canada" dealership in the nation's capital.

[tdu]

This is a very basic thing - admin fees are optional. I never paid any admin/dealer fee for the car. Neither should you.


At last check the admin fees are not listed in the breakdown you get on the Hyundai Canada website even though there is a section for them (though they told me they would be fixing this). But if they still aren't posted in the price and build on there, you can also use the print out for ammo when you go to the dealer. Just raise a fuss and say if it's not on their site, you shouldn't be paying it.

[ells]

34 pages so far and lots of OTR or OTD prices. For those that are interested here are the wholesale prices for the two Elantra trims I am looking at.

2009 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto GL w/Sport
Wholesale Price
$21,143.00

2009 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto Limited
Wholesale Price
$22,229.00

I will use that wholesale value subtract the $3500 rebate then add the various fees and taxes and come up with starting offer. Good Luck.

[Prof]

34 pages so far and lots of OTR or OTD prices. For those that are interested here are the wholesale prices for the two Elantra trims I am looking at.

2009 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto GL w/Sport
Wholesale Price
$21,143.00

2009 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto Limited
Wholesale Price
$22,229.00

I will use that wholesale value subtract the $3500 rebate then add the various fees and taxes and come up with starting offer. Good Luck.

I read somewhere, maybe even in this forum thread, that $500 of the rebate amount is from a dealer contribution. CCC reports detail this. In essence, wholesale less $3000 would be the starting point.

On another note, as mentioned elsewhere, I'd also like to hear the OTR price w/breakdown of a Sonata GL Auto. If anyone has picked one up recently, let us know.

[ells]

I read somewhere, maybe even in this forum thread, that $500 of the rebate amount is from a dealer contribution. CCC reports detail this.

This is what it says.

Current Factory Incentive Programs
Cash Incentives
Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate $3,500.00 April 30, 2009

The Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate can be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates) excluding the Dealer cash, if available. Please note a dealer participation fee of $500 applies which needs to be added to the Wholesale Price Total. Please consult your dealer for further details.

So Dealer Participation Fee is what you are talking about. It amazes me they make these things so fracking convoluted.

[nyik]

What does OTR/OTD stand for?

[cyc1120]

What does OTR/OTD stand for?

OTR = On the road
OTD = Out the door

They mean the same thing and refers to the total price that you'll pay after tax and fees.

[redflag999]

This is what it says.



So Dealer Participation Fee is what you are talking about. It amazes me they make these things so fracking convoluted.

I noticed there is a new discount for Elantra L for $3850 in the paper a couple of days ago. Did anyone noticed that? Is this for a Elantra trim? Anyone know if they increase the manufacture or dealer contribution? Thanks

[evoviii]

Looking to hop into either a Nordschleife Grey or Karussell White 2.0T GT, but I hope to get a CCC report, so I can start crunching numbers.

Haven't had time to go for a test drive though, but the only one they had was a silver auto.

Not sure if they'll have a CCC report being very new. But if you do get one, please do post. I most info I could find was an American site and dealer cost was only 1.1 k difference which isn't much to work with.

Hey Evoviii, so you've decided on the gencoupe? I was really intrigued by the car and was hoping for some government incentive but alas, none came. I'll be interested to know what kind of numbers Don Valley North can do versus the "#1 volume dealer in Canada" dealership in the nation's capital.

Yeah I was sorta hoping for gov't incentives but doesn't look hopeful. Too bad there isn't much incentive though still 2.55% financing from 2.75% in March is half decent.

[SickBeast]

I noticed there is a new discount for Elantra L for $3850 in the paper a couple of days ago. Did anyone noticed that? Is this for a Elantra trim? Anyone know if they increase the manufacture or dealer contribution? Thanks
Was the price of the car $12K? If so, then the deal is the same as before.

I'm personally going into 3 dealerships and doing this:

1. Walk up to the salesman. Don't mess around. Tell him I want an Elantra GL w/ auto and I am going to several dealerships to get the best price.

2. He will want to know what the other dealerships quoted me. I will not tell him, and will say "just tell me what the best price is that you can give me".

3. Repeat this at a couple of other dealers. This can also be done over the phone and they can fax you an offer.

I honestly wish there was no haggling when buying a car, but there is, even with a nice incentive like this. It seems they will be making $1200 profit at the dealership on this car in my case, which is a little high IMO. I'd like to get it down to $500 or so.

[bandit373]

Was the price of the car $12K? If so, then the deal is the same as before.

I'm personally going into 3 dealerships and doing this:

1. Walk up to the salesman. Don't mess around. Tell him I want an Elantra GL w/ auto and I am going to several dealerships to get the best price.

2. He will want to know what the other dealerships quoted me. I will not tell him, and will say "just tell me what the best price is that you can give me".

3. Repeat this at a couple of other dealers. This can also be done over the phone and they can fax you an offer.

I honestly wish there was no haggling when buying a car, but there is, even with a nice incentive like this. It seems they will be making $1200 profit at the dealership on this car in my case, which is a little high IMO. I'd like to get it down to $500 or so.

I don't think this is as direct as you "could" be.
My advice, based on my recent experience is get the CCC report. Offer dealer invoice as your opening position and then deal from there, with invoice+500 as your stopping point. Don't let them try to guess what kind of price you want. Be direct. Don't tell them your walk-a-away price either, just know that you walk away when you hit that point or that dealer can't meet it.
Be prepared to have this go on for a couple of weeks if necessary.
Don't negotiate based on payments either, that just confuses the issue. Dicker based on the OTR price and nothing more.
If you can avoid doing a trade that's the best but if you have to, only negotiate the trade after you finalize the purchase price of the car, otherwise, you'll have no idea what price you got.

[SickBeast]

I don't think this is as direct as you "could" be.
My advice, based on my recent experience is get the CCC report. Offer dealer invoice as your opening position and then deal from there, with invoice+500 as your stopping point. Don't let them try to guess what kind of price you want. Be direct. Don't tell them your walk-a-away price either, just know that you walk away when you hit that point or that dealer can't meet it.
Be prepared to have this go on for a couple of weeks if necessary.
Don't negotiate based on payments either, that just confuses the issue. Dicker based on the OTR price and nothing more.
If you can avoid doing a trade that's the best but if you have to, only negotiate the trade after you finalize the purchase price of the car, otherwise, you'll have no idea what price you got.

I know someone who got a better deal on a car using the method I mentionned above as opposed to my friend who got a worse deal using the CCC invoice.

I think there are flaws with the CCC invoice, particularly when there is a promotion like this with Hyundai where some of the rebate is being given by the dealerships themselves out of their profit margin.

By nature these guys are going to want to compete and give you the lowest price so that you buy it from them. It's our open and free markets, pure and simple.

[bandit373]

No Prob...do what you feel works best, by all means :)

I only have one question about the logic of this approach:
I honestly wish there was no haggling when buying a car, but there is, even with a nice incentive like this. It seems they will be making $1200 profit at the dealership on this car in my case, which is a little high IMO. I'd like to get it down to $500 or so.

Without some sort of report or insider knowledge, how do you even have an idea what invoice is compared to MSRP? How do you know the profit margin is ~$1200? How do you shoot for your target of invoice+$500 by calling for the "best price"?

The CCC report doesn't take holdbacks into account but it's a starting point. From other stories APA seems to be the best method if it's available to you.

[shawn99]

my suggestion is: get a manual transmission and forego the cruise control. You can pick up the accent for 12.5k out the door easily if you paid cash. Interest rate is so low that you are better off getting a loan from bank.

I was quoted on an Elantra last week and I think the guy at Agincourt Hyundai tried to rip me off.

He quoted me $272/month OTR for an Elantra LE w/ auto, with a buyout of $6300 in 5 years (future value financing).

On the Hyundai website, it quoted me $250/month for the same car, with a final buyout of $6000 (same setup as above).

It's almost as though he *mistakenly* quoted me on the SE trim level. Oh, and what's that stupid00 "etching" fee? Can that be waived?

I was looking at the Accent but it's pretty much the same price as the Elantra.

All that I want is a cheap car with auto and cruise control. I *hate* how they make you buy a higher trim level just to get cruise! On the Elantra, the $12,000 car becomes a $20,000 car very quickly!

What's the best Hyundai dealership in the GTA to get a good deal? Can you haggle with them to get lower than MSRP with the new sale they're having?

[SickBeast]

my suggestion is: get a manual transmission and forego the cruise control. You can pick up the accent for 12.5k out the door easily if you paid cash. Interest rate is so low that you are better off getting a loan from bank.
My wife adamantly wants an automatic transmission.

I drive to Peterborough twice a week from downtown Toronto, plus at least twice a month I go to Niagara Falls; cruise is a huge feature for me on the highway.

I'll see if I can convince the wife to go with the manual. I could go without cruise to save that much money.

[gr8dlr]

Was the price of the car $12K? If so, then the deal is the same as before.

I'm personally going into 3 dealerships and doing this:

1. Walk up to the salesman. Don't mess around. Tell him I want an Elantra GL w/ auto and I am going to several dealerships to get the best price.

2. He will want to know what the other dealerships quoted me. I will not tell him, and will say "just tell me what the best price is that you can give me".

3. Repeat this at a couple of other dealers. This can also be done over the phone and they can fax you an offer.

I honestly wish there was no haggling when buying a car, but there is, even with a nice incentive like this. It seems they will be making $1200 profit at the dealership on this car in my case, which is a little high IMO. I'd like to get it down to $500 or so.

I like the approach...actually thought of doing this myself. In effect you're looking to get the hungriest salesman to give you the lowest price and be happy he's making something with a sale vs nothing for non-sale. If the salesman is hungry you're betting/hoping you're going to get his best price and you're not going to play his game.

Let us know how your approach goes...I expect there's always going to be some RFD'ers who will say they got a better deal. In the end a couple of hundred dollars on a $20k plus transaction isn't a bad deal.

[SickBeast]

No Prob...do what you feel works best, by all means :)

I only have one question about the logic of this approach:


Without some sort of report or insider knowledge, how do you even have an idea what invoice is compared to MSRP? How do you know the profit margin is ~$1200? How do you shoot for your target of invoice+$500 by calling for the "best price"?

The CCC report doesn't take holdbacks into account but it's a starting point. From other stories APA seems to be the best method if it's available to you.
What's APA?

My approach doesn't need CCC reports. I just happened to see one for a trim level up from the one I'm getting and figured it would be pretty comparable. If I can get the car for $250/mo instead of $270 I'll be happy.

[hawkmasta]

Not sure if they'll have a CCC report being very new. But if you do get one, please do post. I most info I could find was an American site and dealer cost was only 1.1 k difference which isn't much to work with.



Yeah I was sorta hoping for gov't incentives but doesn't look hopeful. Too bad there isn't much incentive though still 2.55% financing from 2.75% in March is half decent.

good to see that deals are still progressively better, i wonder how far it will go. Please do share info on the Gencoupe if you get it. At this point, i'm waiting things out a little bit.

[bandit373]

What's APA?


Automobile Protection Association (http://www.apa.ca/)

[HyperTech]

CCC Report

2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2dr Cpe I4 Man GT
2-door Sub-Compact Passenger Car

Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $30,745.00 $28,833.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- SOLID PAINT (-PT) $0.00 $0.00
Totals including all items above $32,410.00 $30,498.00
*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.

Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 2.55% 24 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 36 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 48 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 60 April 30, 2009
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 2.55% 60/84 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 72 April 30, 2009
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 24 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 36 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 48 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 60 April 30, 2009
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
Please consult your dealer regarding The Future Value Finance Program for further details.
No Security Deposit required on all leases.
Please note when leasing or financing a dealer participation fee of $150 applies which needs to be applied to the Wholesale Price Total. Please consult your dealer for further details.

2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2dr Cpe I4 Man Premium
2-door Sub-Compact Passenger Car

Manufacture warranty
<<< PRELIMINARY 2010 WARRANTY >>> Basic: 5 Years/100,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 10.1
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 6.6


Retail Price *Wholesale Price**
Base $27,495.00 $25,814.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $29,160.00 $27,479.00
*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.
** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 2.55% 24 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 36 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 48 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 60 April 30, 2009
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 2.55% 60/84 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 72 April 30, 2009
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 24 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 36 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 48 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 60 April 30, 2009
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
Please consult your dealer regarding The Future Value Finance Program for further details.
No Security Deposit required on all leases.
Please note when leasing or financing a dealer participation fee of $150 applies which needs to be applied to the Wholesale Price Total. Please consult your dealer for further details.

2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2dr Cpe V6 Man GT
2-door Sub-Compact Passenger Car

Manufacture warranty
<<< PRELIMINARY 2010 WARRANTY >>> Basic: 5 Years/100,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 12.0
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 7.6

Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $34,995.00 $32,458.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- SOLID PAINT (-PT) $0.00 $0.00
Totals including all items above $36,660.00 $34,123.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 2.55% 24 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 36 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 48 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 60 April 30, 2009
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 2.55% 60/84 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 72 April 30, 2009
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 24 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 36 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 48 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 7.79% 60 April 30, 2009

[nyik]

Does anyone know if the Touring is a hatchback or a wagon? I've seen it references to both. When I looked at it, only the back resembled slightly like a wagon..

[SickBeast]

I'd say it's more a wagon than a hatchback. It's too long to be a hatchback. I think they want to market it that way, sort of saying it's like a Subaru Forester, but after driving one it felt cumbersome like a wagon to me.

[Thrasher]

The Elantra L is advertised as $11,995. Is that a manual or auto transmittion? How much is the final price including tax and everything in Alberta?

[99bimmer]

Did a search and couldn't find anything. I read the Genesis Coupe is 2.55% to finance. Anyone know if there is are any discounts on leasing? the site states like 7.8% or so which is a major deal breaker for leasing. TIA.

[enforcerviper]

The Elantra L is advertised as $11,995. Is that a manual or auto transmittion? How much is the final price including tax and everything in Alberta?

Use the hyundai canada's website build and price. It's self explanitory.

[Thrasher]

Use the hyundai canada's website build and price. It's self explanitory.

With build & price tool the prices start at $15,845 :(

[tdu]

The Elantra L is advertised as $11,995. Is that a manual or auto transmittion? How much is the final price including tax and everything in Alberta?

If you go to the Hyundai Canada site and do the 'price and build' thing, you can get all the info you need.

edit: whoops someone beat me to pointing that out.

[enforcerviper]

With build & price tool the prices start at $15,845 :(

Go through all the steps. It will show you the discounts at the end. It's by far the most useful for buying a hyundai.

[Thrasher]

Go through all the steps. It will show you the discounts at the end. It's by far the most useful for buying a hyundai.

Oh , I see. Thanks.
So there is no price adjustment on the Elantra Touring? Its just for the Elantra Sedan?

[leovee1]

Oh , I see. Thanks.
So there is no price adjustment on the Elantra Touring? Its just for the Elantra Sedan?

Correct, no discount on the the Touring which is brand new (to N. America).

[flybabycat]

I want to trade in my GM malibu, and get a 09 sonata auto. I want to go to the deal price directly. Can you guyes recommend a salesman?
:-0

[enforcerviper]

I want to trade in my GM malibu, and get a 09 sonata auto. I want to go to the deal price directly. Can you guyes recommend a salesman?
:-0

Where are you? I give Mississauga A++ in service.

[sonspot]

can someone post the CCC for hyundia sante fe gls fwd.

thanks

[jchan1985]

anybody have a CCC or APA report for the Sonata base manual?

[juggie]

Hey,

If someone in ottawa needs a good salesman send me a pm. I just did a deal today for about 4100 under MSRP (3000 of which was the Hyundai rebate which included a 150 dealer contribution) It worked out to being 300 over invoice + 150 dealer contribution.

Edit: For a Sante FE FWD 3.3GL

[benkana]

can someone post the CCC for hyundia sante fe gls fwd.

thanks


Report Created on: April 15 2009
Wholesale Price Report
2009 Hyundai Santa Fe FWD 4dr 3.3L Auto GLS

2WD Sport Utility Vehicles

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 5 Years/100,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 12.2
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 8.4

Retail Price* Wholesale Price**
Base $31,045.00 $28,859.00
Freight $1,760.00 $1,760.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $32,905.00 $30,719.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2009
Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate $3,000.00 April 30, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.00% 24 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 0.00% 36 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 0.00% 48 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 0.90% 60 April 30, 2009
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 2.55% 60/84 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 72 April 30, 2009
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 6.10% 24 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 6.10% 36 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 6.10% 48 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 6.10% 60 April 30, 2009
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
Please consult your dealer regarding The Future Value Finance Program for further details.
No Security Deposit required on all leases.
The Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate can be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates) excluding the Dealer cash, if available. Please consult your dealer for further details.
Please note a dealer participation fee of $150 applies to all types of sales (i.e. leasing, financing or cash purchase) which needs to be applied to the Wholesale Price Total. Please consult your dealer for further details.

[Matty]

OTR = On the road
OTD = Out the door

They mean the same thing and refers to the total price that you'll pay after tax and fees.

They are technically different things, however are sometimes the same value.

OTD is chronologically first. Now in the case of buying from a US dealer in a state that doesn't charge sales tax to out-of-state buyers, for ex., this would be the amount on the certified cheque made to the dealer.

Then, comes OTR, or much more useful, "ITD", meaning "in the driveway". And in that example of a US car, this would be the amount you have paid for the car, PLUS costs at the border like duty, GST, AC tax, PLUS the PST you then paid on registering the car, PLUS RIV fees, PLUS maybe even your cost to deliver or drive the car home (gas, hotel, towing, etc.).

[Winnipeg_Jet]

Does anyone have a Car Cost Canada report on a Tiburon? Would like one for the GS Sport - 4 Speed Auto, but any trim would do.

Thanks in advance.

[bobcat99]

Sisley Hyundai in Ajax is having a special sale this weekend. Might be able get some better pricing and a free bike or BBQ. Never bought anything from them but have been looking at some cars recently there.

[nyik]

Sisley Hyundai in Ajax is having a special sale this weekend. Might be able get some better pricing and a free bike or BBQ. Never bought anything from them but have been looking at some cars recently there.

What's the special?

[djgee]

Just came back from a dealership today and was quoted over 30K for the Elantra Sport. Tried to negotiate a bit and the best the salesperson could do was $800 off of MSRP which was $22,395. I was aiming for $1000 off and the salesperson told me there is just over $1400 in the vehicle. Anyone know if this is true?

[scouzer]

Just came back from a dealership today and was quoted over 30K for the Elantra Sport. Tried to negotiate a bit and the best the salesperson could do was $800 off of MSRP which was $22,395. I was aiming for $1000 off and the salesperson told me there is just over $1400 in the vehicle. Anyone know if this is true?

You are spending $22,000 on a car and you won't buy yourself a CCC or APA report?

$1200-1400 is about bang on for almost all economy cars.

[gordholio]

Just came back from a dealership today and was quoted over 30K for the Elantra Sport. Tried to negotiate a bit and the best the salesperson could do was $800 off of MSRP which was $22,395. I was aiming for $1000 off and the salesperson told me there is just over $1400 in the vehicle. Anyone know if this is true?

$30K? That seems incredibly high to me.

[djgee]

$30K? That seems incredibly high to me.

It is only because the cost of borrowing is just over 2K so it's actually high 27,000. Might look at a Sonata instead now. I should get a APA report...

[Thrasher]

Can anyone please post a APA or CCC report on the price of the 2009 Elantra Sedan L (just the automatic transmittion nothing else included).
Thanks.

[ells]

2009 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto L
Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $17,045.00 $16,104.00
Freight $1,495.00 $1,495.00
Totals including all items above $18,540.00 $17,599.00

Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2009
Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate $3,850.00 April 30, 2009
Graduate Rebate Program $500.00 April 30, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.00% 24 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 0.00% 36 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 0.90% 48 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 60 April 30, 2009
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 2.55% 60/84 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 72 April 30, 2009
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 24 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 36 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 48 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 60 April 30, 2009
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
The Graduate Rebate Program can be combined with any other available factory incentive. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.
No Security Deposit required on all leases.
Please consult your dealer regarding The Future Value Finance Program for further details.
The Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate can be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates) excluding the Dealer cash, if available. Please note a dealer participation fee of $500 applies which needs to be added to the Wholesale Price Total. Please consult your dealer for further details.

[902linger]

Alternatively, you can always go with a Kia Sedona, which is essentially the same Van.

Looks lik Hyundai killed off the Entourage - it's no longer listed on their website (story here (http://autos.canada.com/news/story.html?id=1499489)).

Too bad - liked the discount and was seriously thinking about it.

[evoviii]

Discount to be haggled over isn't going to be huge but be careful about the fees they have. Sometime's they'll give you the discount but get it back via etching or some other junk.

Know what fees are mandatory and which ones are just dealer mumbo jumbo

[ARK]

Can someone post the CCC for hyundia Sonata GL?

Thanks

[ARK]

Today Mississauga Hyundai quoted me $23400 OTR for the 2009 Sonata GL. Is it a good price?

[Thrasher]

Discount to be haggled over isn't going to be huge but be careful about the fees they have. Sometime's they'll give you the discount but get it back via etching or some other junk.

Know what fees are mandatory and which ones are just dealer mumbo jumbo

I went to a Hyundai dealer today and he offered me an Elantra L Auto for like just over $16000, although the website (MSRP) price is $15608. I tried to negotiate to at least what's on the website, but they wouldn't budge. The sales manager told me there is only $250 profit in the vehicle. I find it very unlikely if the report posted here says there is $941 profit in the car. And they adde a suspicious $385 "anti-theft registration" fee to the price and would not waive it. Plus there was a $45 bank fee for doing credit check or something.

What should I do? Should I buy a CCC report and show them how much money they already make on it and ask for a discount a refuse to pay the anti-theft fee?

Did I read the report well that they make almost $1000 on the car? Because 2 dealers tried to convince me that the factory only gives me $3300 discount and the rest is the dealer discount, so that's why they cannot go lower. BTW the total discount on the web page is $3850.

What should I do?

[sevenpoint]

They do pay $500 on the Elantra. So take the invoice price from CCC, subtract the rebate, add the $500, and suggest a profit. And yes absolutely, use the CCC report. Email it to them with your quote. Start at $300, and tell them you know it's profit. Don't hide what you know, the best thing you can do is show them you know the cards they're holding. If they say no and try to negotiate, send it to a different dealership. If they try to win you over by saying there is only 1 on the lot, tell them you'll wait till one gets delivered, you're in no rush. You'll get a good deal, $3350 off invoice is pretty damn good!

[djgee]

Today Mississauga Hyundai quoted me $23400 OTR for the 2009 Sonata GL. Is it a good price?

Wow! I wish I was quoted that price. I actually bit on an offer for a Sonata GL auto. I paid just over $24,000 OTR. Your quote is about a $1000 less than what I got. I'm jealous now...I feel so violated...:(

Is that quote for the manual or auto? The only thing I was able to squeeze outta them was free tint (the car in the showroom was tinted so I told the salesperson that I wanted that one w/o paying for the tint job) and waive the "admin" fee. I'm happy with my purchase otherwise.

[a8520147]

Can someone post the CCC for hyundia Sonata GL?

Thanks

here is a link that should give an idear about the negociated price:

http://www.cars4u.com/workbook/calc.asp?trim_id=10166&make_id=1084&model_id=1423

just subscribe free and you will have acces to the information (the negociated price). Actually it is $21,044.30 for manual transmission (it should be OTR or not so far of it).

[ARK]

Wow! I wish I was quoted that price. I actually bit on an offer for a Sonata GL auto. I paid just over $24,000 OTR. Your quote is about a $1000 less than what I got. I'm jealous now...I feel so violated...:(

Is that quote for the manual or auto?

It was for auto.

Today I finalized the deal with Pfaff Hyundai in Woodbridge and here is what I got.

I am taking delivery on Thursday.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7677/21405387.jpg

[pmjbutler]

What's the Globali (sp? too small to read) Registration Fee?

[bizzyseller]

It was for auto.

Today I finalized the deal with Pfaff Hyundai in Woodbridge and here is what I got.

I am taking delivery on Thursday.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7677/21405387.jpg

Did you finance over 48 months?

[ARK]

What's the Globali (sp? too small to read) Registration Fee?

Globali Reg fee of $449 was their admin fee which I negotiated and they increased the dealer discount from $1100 to $1321(basically I paid $218 as admin fee)

[ARK]

Did you finance over 48 months?

Yes, financed for 48 months, paid $4000 as DP and monthly payment came in at $404

[bizzyseller]

Thanks for the quick reply.

Do you mind sharing your salespersons name?

And do you mind us using yourself as a reference to get the price?

[ARK]

Thanks for the quick reply.

Do you mind sharing your salespersons name?

And do you mind us using yourself as a reference to get the price?

PM sent

[nabate]

No air tax?

[nabate]

NO AIR TAX?
I STILL think your $500 over priced.
did you get a Car cost report?
On my recent Santa Fe purchase. No Admin Fee. Plus i received an additional $1425 off the Factory Rebate of $3000 for a total of $4425 Discount.

Globali is a Vechile tracking ******** if your car is stolen. Basically you register when you get your car and that's it. It appears another way that your hyundai dealership attempted to make up on loss profit.

It was for auto.

Today I finalized the deal with Pfaff Hyundai in Woodbridge and here is what I got.

I am taking delivery on Thursday.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7677/21405387.jpg

[Prof]

Yes, financed for 48 months, paid $4000 as DP and monthly payment came in at $404

Did the dealer install any options at all? eg. block heater, mud flaps. All in all, it seems like a very decent deal to me. By comparison, its around the same price as a loaded Corolla CE. Add to that better financing and it makes the Toyota, a smaller car, seem expensive.

[newhope]

Hi ARK, do you mind PM'ing me the salesperson's name as well? Thanks so much!

[bazzz]

Just noticed this thread. We bought an Elantra GL Auto in BC for $18,900 OTR in January. My tactical advice would be this. Go to the Hyundai Canada web site and go through the build and price section. This will give you the maximum you should pay. There is nothing else the dealer needs to add on to this.

Now the fun starts. Call your nearest local dealer and tell him you're looking to pay under $xxx (whatever value you got off the web site); explicitly stating how you want to pay. Try and find out if they've got the exact car available on their lot or in storage. He'll either get back to you with a price instantly or call you back. If he tries to throw in extra incentives or random fees or change the financing terms ask for a new quote based on what you actually wanted. Then call your next local dealer and tell him what you've been offered and ask if he'd like to beat that offer. Repeat this as necessary with as many local dealers as you feel comfortable with (I was playing off four of them).

When you get your best offer arrange an appointment, or if you don't have a car, get them to drive you to the dealership. Have a good look at the car, then when it comes to signing the paperwork, make sure the payment(s) are EXACTLY (well, to within $1) of what you agreed. If it's not, then walk out.

We were complete novices at this, but the approach seemed to work very well for us, getting an extra $500 (or was it $600?) off the website price for a few hours of fielding calls from the comfort of our own home/workplaces. I don't think there's much need for getting CCC reports at this level and with those discounts in place. Just try and shave two or three extra percent off the web site price.

EDIT: Another point worth considering is that at least some dealerships have mid-month and month-end sales targets to meet (with accompanying bonuses) so they may be more desperate for customers near to these times. IIRC ours was the final sale they needed and was finalized with about 3 minutes to spare.

EDIT 2: I don't know if this is allowed but if anyone in Metro Vancouver is looking for a referral there might be the potential for us split the cheque for an extra $25-$50 bonus.

[jckc]

EDIT 2: I don't know if this is allowed but if anyone in Metro Vancouver is looking for a referral there might be the potential for us split the cheque for an extra $25-$50 bonus.

Which dealer did you get your Hyundai from? There aren't that many dealers in Vancouver area.

[Rikardo]

Can anyone please post a recent APA or CCC report on the price of the 2009 Santa Fe AWD Limited? Thanks in advance.

[tdu]

I've been driving my 2009 Accent GLS for a couple of months now so I thought I would post an update. I am very happy with the car. It's been a step down power wise from the Elantra I owned previously, but for the driving I do and the fuel savings, it's great. I am perfectly ok with the comprimise.

Only 2 problems. The seatbelts are in an idiotic spot on the car. You have to reach back too far to grab them. I can reach them, but someone with shoulder problems could actually have trouble. Second, the stock stereo is horrible even by stock stereo standards when it comes to mp3 CD's. I have tried every way possible to burn them, and I still get a lot of glitches and skipping on playback. It's VERY picky about what mp3's it will play right.

[kcotoulas]

Can anyone please post a recent APA or CCC report on the price of the 2009 Santa Fe AWD Limited? Thanks in advance.

Santa Fe 2.7L GL 5 speed
Invoice 24,365 MSRP 25,995

Santa Fe 2.7L GL Auto
Invoice 25,827 MSRP 27,645

Santa Fe 3.3L GL
Invoice 26,855 MSRP 28,745

Santa Fe 3.3L GL AWD
Invoice 28,723 MSRP 30,745

Santa Fe 3.3L GLS
Invoice 28,859 MSRP 31,045

Santa Fe 3.3L GLS AWD
Invoice 30,718 MSRP 33,045

Santa Fe Limited
Invoice 32,949 MSRP 35,445

[82]

Have the resale value improve lately on Hyundai and Kia?

Sonata is okay but it doesn't has VSC and traction control.

Kia Forte looks great.

[souks]

Some of the newer Hyundais like the Genesis are holding their value ok, not as good as some Toyotas or Hondas but a lot better than the big 3. The lower end Hyundais like Sonata, Accent aren't doing too good. If your goal is to trade in every 5 years and you want the best resale than your have to look at Toyota or Honda. But if you are buying to keep a while then it really doesn't matter on brand as in 7 - 8 years they are all pretty much the same.

But from what I've saw the Hyundais including Sonata is still 3 - 4% better than the big 3 in the same time periods. So slightly better resale than big 3.

Sonata's do have Electronic stability control and traction control, but only on the V6 model. For some reason Canadian 4 cylinders don't offer it. I'm eyeing a Sonata V6 Limited myself, just waiting to make sure they solve this rear suspension issue on the 09 models before jumping in. Latest I heard is they have a solution and are testing it on a few customer vehicles in the next 2 weeks, if all goes well a TSB will be issued.

[jagsjay]

Some of the newer Hyundais like the Genesis are holding their value ok, not as good as some Toyotas or Hondas but a lot better than the big 3. The lower end Hyundais like Sonata, Accent aren't doing too good. If your goal is to trade in every 5 years and you want the best resale than your have to look at Toyota or Honda. But if you are buying to keep a while then it really doesn't matter on brand as in 7 - 8 years they are all pretty much the same.

But from what I've saw the Hyundais including Sonata is still 3 - 4% better than the big 3 in the same time periods. So slightly better resale than big 3.

Sonata's do have Electronic stability control and traction control, but only on the V6 model. For some reason Canadian 4 cylinders don't offer it. I'm eyeing a Sonata V6 Limited myself, just waiting to make sure they solve this rear suspension issue on the 09 models before jumping in. Latest I heard is they have a solution and are testing it on a few customer vehicles in the next 2 weeks, if all goes well a TSB will be issued.


for the price, u cannot go wrong with a sonata

[CDRoot]

lol, whats up with merlin's face in that pic? Cute kats tho! gl with finding them a home!;)

Santa Fe 2.7L GL 5 speed
Invoice 24,365 MSRP 25,995

Santa Fe 2.7L GL Auto
Invoice 25,827 MSRP 27,645

Santa Fe 3.3L GL
Invoice 26,855 MSRP 28,745

Santa Fe 3.3L GL AWD
Invoice 28,723 MSRP 30,745

Santa Fe 3.3L GLS
Invoice 28,859 MSRP 31,045

Santa Fe 3.3L GLS AWD
Invoice 30,718 MSRP 33,045

Santa Fe Limited
Invoice 32,949 MSRP 35,445

[Matty]

...but a lot better than the big 3. ... better than the big 3 ...slightly better resale than big 3.


'Big Three' means Toyota, VW, and GM. You probably mean the Detroit Three.

[skutterbutt]

Santa Fe 2.7L GL 5 speed
Invoice 24,365 MSRP 25,995

Santa Fe 2.7L GL Auto
Invoice 25,827 MSRP 27,645

Santa Fe 3.3L GL
Invoice 26,855 MSRP 28,745

Santa Fe 3.3L GL AWD
Invoice 28,723 MSRP 30,745

Santa Fe 3.3L GLS
Invoice 28,859 MSRP 31,045

Santa Fe 3.3L GLS AWD
Invoice 30,718 MSRP 33,045

Santa Fe Limited
Invoice 32,949 MSRP 35,445

Thanks alot for posting these. I negotiated a deal today for the Limited model.

$30,427 Price after rebates + markup ($478)
$1760 D&D
$100 air tax
$75 fuel tax
$5 omvic

$32,367 + tax = 36,575 OTD

[firstcarwooo]

This thread was very helpful!

Took delivery on a 2009 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto GLS - $20500~ OTR :-)

As a first time car purchaser, it was a stressful bargaining process with a long wait time for delivery (4 weeks), but I think we got great deal and good value for money paid!

What worked for us was to get a decent conditional offer from one dealership. Then we went to another dealer and took a hard line of "we are satisfied, but can you do this much better?"

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread!

[andycraven]

As a first time car purchaser, it was a stressful bargaining process with a long wait time for delivery (4 weeks), but I think we got great deal and good value for money paid!

What worked for us was to get a decent conditional offer from one dealership. Then we went to another dealer and took a hard line of "we are satisfied, but can you do this much better?"

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread!

Please tell us what you gained over your first offer.

[firstcarwooo]

Please tell us what you gained over your first offer.

$500 plus taxes ($200 off price, plus a $300 "registration fee" that disappeared)

[executor]

does anyone have a pic of the sonata GL Sport seats? they are supposed to be premium with leather bolsters and i can't seem to find a pic of the interior of this particular model.

also i would appreciate the invoice on this particular model, the sonata GL sport.

invoice on the 2008 tiburon gt 5 spd would be great too.

[actuarial]

I am looking to get a genesis coupe later in the year. Does anyone have any experience getting a budge on the price?

I am just looking for the base model + auto (auto due to the wife)

[quickinferno]

Don't forget to get insurance quotes when deciding your purchase!

For myself:
The insurance of a Civic is $200 more than a same year&km Camry. So where are the gas savings of the civic? Am I still sacrificing crumple zone and driving pleasure for gas economy? Nop.

Cars are cars, whatever brand/model you pick, if you get a lemon, it will need lots of repairs. So I think it's partially about luck too!


Also, our family got the Kia Sedona (almost same as Hyundai Entourage), only have 18000kms on it so far, but it's been rock solid (as should be expected of any car). Gas mileage is mediocore, but it has a 250HP engine that can out race most other vehicles on the road ;)

[gostinger]

I just test drove a 3.8 v6 coupe ...not the gt which is what I am looking for....well as a previous Mustang owner I must say I liked it :) ......priced at $34,000 loaded I was impressed. Again minus the GT enhancements so I still want to drive the GT...but for the price it is a damn nice driving car and quick too. Price for a similar Ford Mustang GT 2010 model is well into the $40,000......and for what to go a half a second faster (depending on the driver) and minus sunroof and so on and so on. Damn good value for the money.

[Prof]

This thread was very helpful!

Took delivery on a 2009 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto GLS - $20500~ OTR :-)

As a first time car purchaser, it was a stressful bargaining process with a long wait time for delivery (4 weeks), but I think we got great deal and good value for money paid!

What worked for us was to get a decent conditional offer from one dealership. Then we went to another dealer and took a hard line of "we are satisfied, but can you do this much better?"

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread!

Beyond the basic sedan, were any extras included. e.g. a block heater is an option!

[executor]

is the $500 grad rebate something the manufacturer provides to the dealer or is it something that comes out of the dealers profit margin? i had a hyundai dealer tell me it comes out of his pocket??

anyone have the invoice on a sonata limited?

[gostinger]

I am looking to get a genesis coupe later in the year. Does anyone have any experience getting a budge on the price?

I am just looking for the base model + auto (auto due to the wife)

I am going to say that because this is a new 2010 model unless you are using cash probably no savings

[Bumba]

Try to change your cd brand. Some factory brand radios do not play well with Maxell or Sony or Staples or JVC brands. Try first Verbatim.
When you burn CD try to burn it at slower speed.


Second, the stock stereo is horrible even by stock stereo standards when it comes to mp3 CD's. I have tried every way possible to burn them, and I still get a lot of glitches and skipping on playback. It's VERY picky about what mp3's it will play right.

[chene]

Thanks alot for posting these. I negotiated a deal today for the Limited model.

$30,427 Price after rebates + markup ($478)
$1760 D&D
$100 air tax
$75 fuel tax
$5 omvic

$32,367 + tax = 36,575 OTD


no Security/Registration ($395) nor Tire Gard/Nitro Safe ($149)? How did you get away with these two?

[firstcarwooo]

Beyond the basic sedan, were any extras included. e.g. a block heater is an option!

No extras. Didn't know enough about what extras are out there to ask for any.

Still decent price, no?

[bazzz]

No extras. Didn't know enough about what extras are out there to ask for any.

Still decent price, no?

I think you got a pretty good price there (how does it compare with the quote on the web site?); I would personally rather have a bigger discount than extras thrown in for "free" (they still have to pay for these things, so it just reduces the amount they can deduct from the total price).

[cyc1120]

is the $500 grad rebate something the manufacturer provides to the dealer or is it something that comes out of the dealers profit margin? i had a hyundai dealer tell me it comes out of his pocket??

anyone have the invoice on a sonata limited?

I'm pretty sure it comes from the manufacturer. I got the rebate when I bought the accent and they told me that they had to send a photocopy of my diploma to Hyundai. They wouldn't have to do it if it was out of the dealer's pocket...

[executor]

I'm pretty sure it comes from the manufacturer. I got the rebate when I bought the accent and they told me that they had to send a photocopy of my diploma to Hyundai. They wouldn't have to do it if it was out of the dealer's pocket...

thanks for this. dealership sales associates and managers are the worst scum on earth. they lie, twist facts, and try to scrooge every penny they can. i bet they get away with it for 95% of consumers too.

[evoviii]

I am going to say that because this is a new 2010 model unless you are using cash probably no savings

I was able to get quoted $1000 off after being offered $500 elsewhere on base manual. Though it was adjusted later via negotiation of trade in.

[evoviii]

I am looking to get a genesis coupe later in the year. Does anyone have any experience getting a budge on the price?

I am just looking for the base model + auto (auto due to the wife)

I am going to say that because this is a new 2010 model unless you are using cash probably no savings

I was able to get quoted $1000 off after being offered $500 elsewhere on base manual. Though it was adjusted later via negotiation of trade in.

This was done with financing which I thought was damn good

[skutterbutt]

no Security/Registration ($395) nor Tire Gard/Nitro Safe ($149)? How did you get away with these two?

Not sure...I went in with a $36,600 price out the door based on what someone else paid in this thread for a different model. So thats what they came back with. From what I understand, you can usually get them to waive the registration and I've never heard of the tire guard.

[tdu]

Not sure...I went in with a $36,600 price out the door based on what someone else paid in this thread for a different model. So thats what they came back with. From what I understand, you can usually get them to waive the registration and I've never heard of the tire guard.

Ya tire guard never came up when I was buying my Accent, nor was is listed on any of the information or bills.

[firstcarwooo]

I think you got a pretty good price there (how does it compare with the quote on the web site?); I would personally rather have a bigger discount than extras thrown in for "free" (they still have to pay for these things, so it just reduces the amount they can deduct from the total price).

$700 difference

[vasc]

Bought a Sonata GL Auto for 21.500 OTR (including TRADE IN nissan sentra GXE 2001 Manual 188k Km bad clutch / bad catalytic converter)

Kingscross Hyundai
sales person Alam

gave him 500 over invoice price :) but he gave me more for the trade in. No security or other crap just a 35$ for wheel locks lol

[leovee1]

no Security/Registration ($395) nor Tire Gard/Nitro Safe ($149)? How did you get away with these two?

My guess: he read this entire thread and got edjuhkated on these added/hidded fees.

[vipt2000]

Bought a Sonata GL Auto for 21.500 OTR (including TRADE IN nissan sentra GXE 2001 Manual 188k Km bad clutch / bad catalytic converter)

Kingscross Hyundai
sales person Alam

gave him 500 over invoice price :) but he gave me more for the trade in. No security or other crap just a 35$ for wheel locks lol

How much do they give you for the trade in? If you can break in down that would be great.

[dollar]

Any other peoples experiences negotiating a Santa Fe?

I was quoted ~$24,500 for a 2009 3.3L GL FWD. After FRT, PDI, Gas Tax, A/C Tax, and 13% Sales Tax it came to $30,000.

It was another $2000 on the base price for an AWD model.

[smit]

Any other peoples experiences negotiating a Santa Fe?

I was quoted ~$24,500 for a 2009 3.3L GL FWD. After FRT, PDI, Gas Tax, A/C Tax, and 13% Sales Tax it came to $30,000.

It was another $2000 on the base price for an AWD model.

I'm at $24,255 (cost +$400) for the exact same with no admin or Globali registration. Total price $29,723 with same 13% tax. They accepted it without any discussion. There is a $150 dealer participation fee for the $3000 rebate so they are making just $250 on this deal. I'm not sure many dealers would go lower unless they are really fat with inventory or moving units is the priority over profit. Which color did you pick? Deep water blue for us.

[Prof]

Hyundai Canada's website is now listing the 2010 Sonata. Prices have gone up $500 on the GL models and of course, no rebates or special financing. This the last year for the current body style. Photoshopped pics of the next redesign, if accurate, will only help Hyundai's image.

[jingli]

Got a 09' Sonata GL manual for $20500 - $4000 + PDI and taxes etc. I offered pretty much the invoice price and they accepted. Act quickly if you still want to buy 09' models, and they are already harder to find. I was told the production has been stopped for 09' models.

[Sergo]

I was wondering what makes Accent better than KIA RIO
which comes with more features (4 doors, Blootooth, 4 speakers, etc.)
for the same price?
Some dealers even offer -$500 from 9995?
Can people share their KIA/Rio problems?

[ladyhawk]

I'm at $24,255 (cost +$400) for the exact same with no admin or Globali registration. Total price $29,723 with same 13% tax. They accepted it without any discussion. There is a $150 dealer participation fee for the $3000 rebate so they are making just $250 on this deal. I'm not sure many dealers would go lower unless they are really fat with inventory or moving units is the priority over profit. Which color did you pick? Deep water blue for us.

I just took delivery of a 3.3L GL in white, for $29710 OTD. I had emailed several dealerships with the quote I had received locally, and Alpine Hyundai in Kitchener came back $200 cheaper, and with the cargo tray, all weather mats, and locknuts I had wanted. I would hightly recommend this dealership and Mikki Hillyer particularly. She was able to find the unit I wanted, and have it ready for pick up in a matter of 3 days.

[zombie999]

I was wondering what makes Accent better than KIA RIO
which comes with more features (4 doors, Blootooth, 4 speakers, etc.)
for the same price?
Some dealers even offer -$500 from 9995?
Can people share their KIA/Rio problems?

Which dealer is offering $500 off?

[Ziggy007]

Has anyone been able to get a good deal on the Genesis Coupe 2.0 w/ Technology Package?

[whitegoose]

Has anyone been able to get a good deal on the Genesis Coupe 2.0 w/ Technology Package?

they arent going to be giving any deals on a car that sought after...

[Marlek]

Has anyone been able to get a good deal on the Genesis Coupe 2.0 w/ Technology Package?

I was able to get $500 off MSRP on my 2.0t base. Contact Barry @ cars4u.com - bthomas@cars4u.com.

I take delivery in a little less than two weeks and the wait is killing me!

[tikotiko]

I went into a dealership here in BC last week ready to purchase a Sante Fe LTD. I had done my research in terms of what to fees are legit and which ones aren't. I couldn't believe that they tried to sell me the vehicle at full MSRP. They wouldn't bude on anything. So i said thank you and walked out. I then decided to purchase a CCC report for the vehicle. With this info, i walked into the another delaership and said i have this report and i want to pay $550 over the wholesale price which is approximately 1.5% dealer profit. The dealer tried to haggle an additional couple hundred for admin fees and i simply told him this is what i wan to pay and i will purchase today. He agreed to not chare anything extra. The only thing remaining is my trade in which i will be taking to him later tonight to decide on price. I can't believe the process was that easy with the CCC report in my hand. It cuts alot of the BS and it tells them that you are ready to purchase. I will report back after i complete the sale tonight and let you know how the rest of the process went. I know i haven't signed anything yet, so i'll keep my fingers crossed. I will also let you know which dealer it is for those that are interested. Not too many in the lowermainland here in BC.

[awworld]

I went into a dealership here in BC last week ready to purchase a Sante Fe LTD. I had done my research in terms of what to fees are legit and which ones aren't. I couldn't believe that they tried to sell me the vehicle at full MSRP. They wouldn't bude on anything. So i said thank you and walked out. I then decided to purchase a CCC report for the vehicle. With this info, i walked into the another delaership and said i have this report and i want to pay $550 over the wholesale price which is approximately 1.5% dealer profit. The dealer tried to haggle an additional couple hundred for admin fees and i simply told him this is what i wan to pay and i will purchase today. He agreed to not chare anything extra. The only thing remaining is my trade in which i will be taking to him later tonight to decide on price. I can't believe the process was that easy with the CCC report in my hand. It cuts alot of the BS and it tells them that you are ready to purchase. I will report back after i complete the sale tonight and let you know how the rest of the process went. I know i haven't signed anything yet, so i'll keep my fingers crossed. I will also let you know which dealer it is for those that are interested. Not too many in the lowermainland here in BC.

So tikotiko, what was the final price otr price and which dealership did you go to in van? Thanks.

[4CMor]

Thanks to everyone one here for sharing information, you saved us a lot of money and hassle. Just closed on a new Santa Fe GLS AWD at $650 over dealer cost. Gave JP Northshore first chance to sell us the car as we had driven it there and used their time. Their first quote was MRSP + $295 etch and $495 Finance Fee (about $3000 over cost). Walked away and made an appointment for couple of nights later. Saw MGR and explained I had CCC and from all the websites I could see, deals are being done at $500 over cost, without junk add-ons. He insisted he wanted $1000 profit. I walked. Next day, called Open Road Richmond and made appointment with sales mgr. Explained again what I had and that I intended to raise my offer by $150/dealer until someone sold me the car. As he wouldn't see me for 6 dealers, he probably wouldn't see me again. After some discusssion, he accepted. While some RFD's may think I paid a touch too much, it is worth $150 or so to me not to spend a week driving around all the dealers in Lower Mainland!

Having the CCC report and knowing what the best deals are takes away all the dealers power, it is truly amazing to watch.

[Prof]

Current incentives end tomorrow. If past practice continues, Hyundai may extend 0% to five years. I was talking to a sales rep last week and he suspected there might be a rebate on the Genesis sedan. Too rich for me but it would be nice to see the Sonata deal sweetened and the Elantra Touring get an incentive. Anyone with CCC info on the Sonata, I'd love to get a PM.

[tikotiko]

I went into a dealership here in BC last week ready to purchase a Sante Fe LTD. I had done my research in terms of what to fees are legit and which ones aren't. I couldn't believe that they tried to sell me the vehicle at full MSRP. They wouldn't bude on anything. So i said thank you and walked out. I then decided to purchase a CCC report for the vehicle. With this info, i walked into the another delaership and said i have this report and i want to pay $550 over the wholesale price which is approximately 1.5% dealer profit. The dealer tried to haggle an additional couple hundred for admin fees and i simply told him this is what i wan to pay and i will purchase today. He agreed to not chare anything extra. The only thing remaining is my trade in which i will be taking to him later tonight to decide on price. I can't believe the process was that easy with the CCC report in my hand. It cuts alot of the BS and it tells them that you are ready to purchase. I will report back after i complete the sale tonight and let you know how the rest of the process went. I know i haven't signed anything yet, so i'll keep my fingers crossed. I will also let you know which dealer it is for those that are interested. Not too many in the lowermainland here in BC.




So tikotiko, what was the final price otr price and which dealership did you go to in van? Thanks.

The last post by 4cmor is hilarious. I say that because i had the exact same thing happen to me. I went to Northshore and they put all that junk on me (etch, finance fee). Then i went to Openroad Hyundai in Richmond Automall and purchased 2009 Santa Fe LTD for $32510 (everything included) + Tax (12%). Dealer profit was $550 which is roughly 1.5%. I decided to sell my trade in privately. Put it on craigslist and within 2 hours it was sold (dealer offered me $1800 and sold it for $3300). I think anybody who does not use a CCC report is missing out. I'm sure it can be done without it, but why take that chance. I signed the papers with my wife and when we spoke to the loan manager she said we needed the rust proof, paint protection, fabric protection etc.. Well i said no to it all except my wife really wanted the paint protection and fabric protection. She quoted me $299 each but she would do them both for $499. I said i would take both for $299. She agreed to that. I know i didnt need any of them but for $300 it keeps the wife happy. I did not finance that portion.

[drx1]

Got a 09' Sonata GL manual for $20500 - $4000 + PDI and taxes etc. I offered pretty much the invoice price and they accepted. Act quickly if you still want to buy 09' models, and they are already harder to find. I was told the production has been stopped for 09' models.

Can u please give a few more details on your purchase (eventually by pm )
e.g. the OTR price; the dealer you bought from, etc.
Thanks

[jagsjay]

Got a 09' Sonata GL manual for $20500 - $4000 + PDI and taxes etc. I offered pretty much the invoice price and they accepted. Act quickly if you still want to buy 09' models, and they are already harder to find. I was told the production has been stopped for 09' models.

hmm what was your cost on the road?
my friend got a hyundai sonata gl - auto for 0% financing for 4 years, 0 downpayment and total cost OTR for 24K


how could your manual GL cost over 26K OTR?

[Albertan]

hmm what was your cost on the road?
my friend got a hyundai sonata gl - auto for 0% financing for 4 years, 0 downpayment and total cost OTR for 24K


how could your manual GL cost over 26K OTR?


Learn to read... - $4,000 not +.

[silentio]

hmm what was your cost on the road?
my friend got a hyundai sonata gl - auto for 0% financing for 4 years, 0 downpayment and total cost OTR for 24K


how could your manual GL cost over 26K OTR?

Your friend overpaid by at least $500 for the hyundai sonata gl - auto

[wakka2u]

The last post by 4cmor is hilarious. I say that because i had the exact same thing happen to me. I went to Northshore and they put all that junk on me (etch, finance fee). Then i went to Openroad Hyundai in Richmond Automall and purchased 2009 Santa Fe LTD for $32510 (everything included) + Tax (12%). Dealer profit was $550 which is roughly 1.5%. I decided to sell my trade in privately. Put it on craigslist and within 2 hours it was sold (dealer offered me $1800 and sold it for $3300). I think anybody who does not use a CCC report is missing out. I'm sure it can be done without it, but why take that chance. I signed the papers with my wife and when we spoke to the loan manager she said we needed the rust proof, paint protection, fabric protection etc.. Well i said no to it all except my wife really wanted the paint protection and fabric protection. She quoted me $299 each but she would do them both for $499. I said i would take both for $299. She agreed to that. I know i didnt need any of them but for $300 it keeps the wife happy. I did not finance that portion.

Is the fabric and paint protection for life? I thought the limited was all leather, not fabric. I am so tempted to pull the trigger on the ltd myself... any idea when this $3000 rebate is over?? I was thinking of asking for the weather mats, wheel locks, trunk mat and cover for an extra $500 max to bring it under $37K OTR. congrats on the suv!

[jingli]

Can u please give a few more details on your purchase (eventually by pm )
e.g. the OTR price; the dealer you bought from, etc.
Thanks

I got it from Bank Street Hyundai in Ottawa. I called four dealerships in my region offering $16500 before tax. Bank Street Hyundai is the one which accepted the offer and actually had the model I wanted. No hassle at all. Other dealers told me they did not have 09 model any more since the 10 model are out.

Sale price = $20500 - $4000 = $16500
OMVIC fee = $5
Delivery = $1565
Air Tax = $100
Fuel Tax = $75
Accessories = $199
PST = $1475.52
GST = $922.20
-------------------------
Total Purchase Price (OTR) = $20841.72

0 down and 0% financing for 48 months.

[voided]

Spec for spec these look like great Cars. Too bad its still got a damn Hyundai Badge on it. MAybe in 5 years I can get over my mental block against them.

[Prof]

Spec for spec these look like great Cars. Too bad its still got a damn Hyundai Badge on it. MAybe in 5 years I can get over my mental block against them.

I know what you mean. It's that lingering impression that is problably keeping Hyundai from being even more successful in the marketplace. I've owned 4 or 5 Toyotas. It doesn't matter which model you own, the impression people get from the brand is "quality." A similar story is true for Honda. But when you read the professional press, almost universally they talk about Hyundai in the same breath as Honda and Toyota.

All things equal, given a choice between a Toyota/Honda or Hyundai, I would probably play it safe and choose the former. But I'm shopping with my own money and dollar for dollar, by every measure other than brand cache, the Sonata offers more for the dollar whether it's size, features, interior design and especially price. The pics of the 2011 model, if accurate, may really put the car on the map in the mind of the public.

In the meantime, if anyone has recently bought a GL or Limited model, I would like to hear what you paid. The 09's are starting to disappear and I need to jump soon. Anybody seen the white with cocoa leather interior?

[drx1]

I got it from Bank Street Hyundai in Ottawa. I called four dealerships in my region offering $16500 before tax. Bank Street Hyundai is the one which accepted the offer and actually had the model I wanted. No hassle at all. Other dealers told me they did not have 09 model any more since the 10 model are out.

Sale price = $20500 - $4000 = $16500
OMVIC fee = $5
Delivery = $1565
Air Tax = $100
Fuel Tax = $75
Accessories = $199
PST = $1475.52
GST = $922.20
-------------------------
Total Purchase Price (OTR) = $20841.72

0 down and 0% financing for 48 months.

Thanks for the reply.
I already negociated with pfaff hyundai for 16923+Delivery /Air/ Fuel Tax. I paid 10$ for omvic though :)and a ppsa fee - $70 - whatever this is - they said it has to do with financing.
They don't have a std trans in stock but they said they can find a black one.
So it seems I ended paying ~500 more. I guess its OK since I was quite content with this particular dealership and salesguy and they don't have one it stock; the only very minor letdown was that they were not upfront about the ppsa fee. Still it would have been nice to get it for 16500. :)

The car offers lots of value if ur looking for a family sedan (ugh) but still Hyundai Canada could do more: in the US they have the ESC on ALL Sonatas and quite a lot cheaper + the assurance program. And on a particular note I'm disappointed I couldn't get the sunroof on the GL.

[jingli]

Thanks for the reply.
I already negociated with pfaff hyundai for 16923+Delivery /Air/ Fuel Tax. I paid 10$ for omvic though :)and a ppsa fee - $70 - whatever this is - they said it has to do with financing.
They don't have a std trans in stock but they said they can find a black one.
So it seems I ended paying ~500 more. I guess its OK since I was quite content with this particular dealership and salesguy and they don't have one it stock; the only very minor letdown was that they were not upfront about the ppsa fee. Still it would have been nice to get it for 16500. :)

The car offers lots of value if ur looking for a family sedan (ugh) but still Hyundai Canada could do more: in the US they have the ESC on ALL Sonatas and quite a lot cheaper + the assurance program. And on a particular note I'm disappointed I couldn't get the sunroof on the GL.

I wish I could have got sunroof too. To get it I have to pick sport package which is about $4000 more. The choice of GL manual makes sense to me financially not emotionally.

[tikotiko]

Is the fabric and paint protection for life? I thought the limited was all leather, not fabric. I am so tempted to pull the trigger on the ltd myself... any idea when this $3000 rebate is over?? I was thinking of asking for the weather mats, wheel locks, trunk mat and cover for an extra $500 max to bring it under $37K OTR. congrats on the suv!

Yes it is leather and the fabric protection is guaranteed for life. The paint protection is not covered for anything. Just to protect paint from fading (i highly doubt it). Where are you located? I found if you can et those extras you should do it. Keep in mind when you are only offering 1.5% profit, there isn't much room for accessories to be added on at a discount. The LTD did come with carpet mats and wheel locks. I am looking at some aftermarket accessories (Step bars and Fronbt Bull Guard) as they are half the price of what Hyundai is selling them for. If anybody has any good companies to use for aftermarket accessories, please post the info.

[TheOneDealer]

i just bought an 2009 accent L from kingscross hyundai here in toronto. it was no hassle, i just walked in and told the salesman what i wanted, and i got it. when closing the deal the sales manager didnt even bother trying to sell me rustproofing/paint/fabric protection. helps when u know people in the automotive industry lol. i believe mine was around $13,000 otr

[tdu]

i just bought an 2009 accent L from kingscross hyundai here in toronto. it was no hassle, i just walked in and told the salesman what i wanted, and i got it. when closing the deal the sales manager didnt even bother trying to sell me rustproofing/paint/fabric protection. helps when u know people in the automotive industry lol. i believe mine was around $13,000 otr

Actually, I have never had any of that stuff pushed on be buying either of my Hyundai's. Which is one reason I like dealing with them. They just left all the info regarding those services in the glove box when I picked up the car. No attempts to sell me any extras whatsoever.

[Stock R]

Actually, I have never had any of that stuff pushed on be buying either of my Hyundai's. Which is one reason I like dealing with them. They just left all the info regarding those services in the glove box when I picked up the car. No attempts to sell me any extras whatsoever.


Just ordered a genesis coupe over the weekend. Negotiations w/ a CCC report made things very easy. We weren't as fortunate as you though and had to sit through the sales pitch.

Otherwise, very happy w/ the way things went w/ Hyundai.

[gymrat9]

Just ordered a genesis coupe over the weekend. Negotiations w/ a CCC report made things very easy. We weren't as fortunate as you though and had to sit through the sales pitch.

Otherwise, very happy w/ the way things went w/ Hyundai.

Can you please share the price information? i'm interested in the genesis coupe as well.

Thanks.

[dinesh_zee]

I got it from Bank Street Hyundai in Ottawa. I called four dealerships in my region offering $16500 before tax. Bank Street Hyundai is the one which accepted the offer and actually had the model I wanted. No hassle at all. Other dealers told me they did not have 09 model any more since the 10 model are out.

Sale price = $20500 - $4000 = $16500
OMVIC fee = $5
Delivery = $1565
Air Tax = $100
Fuel Tax = $75
Accessories = $199
PST = $1475.52
GST = $922.20
-------------------------
Total Purchase Price (OTR) = $20841.72

0 down and 0% financing for 48 months.

nice! your sale price is $1500 less than the discounted price quoted in the website...

[telix]

Hi Everyone,

I am in the market for a Santa Fe. I saw in another post someone posting the invoice price for it. Thank you

Santa Fe 2.7L GL Auto
Invoice 25,827 MSRP 27,645

Can anyone give me what price they were able to get with this information from the dealerships and as well what they think of the car ?

I don't want to go to 3.3L mainly because of gas prices. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

[tikotiko]

I would start by offering $500 over incoive and go from there. Do your research before you. Call dealerships and ask them if they have any in stock and what colours are available. Start with the dealer that has the most in stock and go from there. You will be able to get a better deal if they have the vehicle on the lot. Do not negotiate price with accessories. If you want to finance the accessories, add them on at the very end (after you know the selling price of the car). Do not pay for etching or finance fees or admin costs. Good luck with the purchase. I've had the car just over a week and love looking at it (i say that cuz my wife drives it), the times i've driven it has been great. I purchased 2009 Santa Fe LTD.

[rec28]

In BC - just purchased a 2009 Santa Fe GLS 3.3 AWD for $34k, all-in, including wheel locks and rubber floor mats.

I have 3 CCC reports left, if anyone wants to PM me.

Edit: Extra reports all used up.

[rec28]

Hi Everyone,

I am in the market for a Santa Fe. I saw in another post someone posting the invoice price for it. Thank you

Santa Fe 2.7L GL Auto
Invoice 25,827 MSRP 27,645

Can anyone give me what price they were able to get with this information from the dealerships and as well what they think of the car ?

I don't want to go to 3.3L mainly because of gas prices. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

There's not much difference between the 2.7 & 3.3 in terms of fuel efficiency - there is quite a bit of difference in terms of power, though. The vehicle itself is fantastic - good power (3.3), looks good (if a bit generic), rock solid build quality, drives very nice, excellent fit & finish, and a great warranty. I recommend that you take both a 2.7 and a 3.3 out for a test.

[mre]

In BC - just purchased a 2009 Santa Fe GLS 3.3 AWD for $34k, all-in, including wheel locks and rubber floor mats.

I have 3 CCC reports left, if anyone wants to PM me.

Hi Rec28, was it the GLS Limited AWD that you bought or the regular GLS AWD?

[spdztr]

Does anyone have a CCC report for an Elantra Touring? Has anyone bought one lately? Is there any room to negotiate?

[rec28]

Hi Rec28, was it the GLS Limited AWD that you bought or the regular GLS AWD?

Just the GLS AWD.

[telix]

There's not much difference between the 2.7 & 3.3 in terms of fuel efficiency - there is quite a bit of difference in terms of power, though. The vehicle itself is fantastic - good power (3.3), looks good (if a bit generic), rock solid build quality, drives very nice, excellent fit & finish, and a great warranty. I recommend that you take both a 2.7 and a 3.3 out for a test.


Thank you everyone for all the information. Is the 3.3 really worth the price up ? Is the engine much louder than the 2.7? One thing I liked was the car was really quiet and I could barely here the engine noise.

[rec28]

Thank you everyone for all the information. Is the 3.3 really worth the price up ? Is the engine much louder than the 2.7? One thing I liked was the car was really quiet and I could barely here the engine noise.

The 3.3 is very quiet and from what I've read, it's much more refined than the 2.7. Only you can determine if it's worth it or not. Personally, it's worth it to me to have the extra towing capacity and power on steep inclines.

[Monette]

Has anyone purchased a 4-door Accent GL sedan in the last few months? Just wondering what the final price is. Thanks.

[smit]

Hi Everyone,

I am in the market for a Santa Fe. I saw in another post someone posting the invoice price for it. Thank you

Santa Fe 2.7L GL Auto
Invoice 25,827 MSRP 27,645

Can anyone give me what price they were able to get with this information from the dealerships and as well what they think of the car ?

I don't want to go to 3.3L mainly because of gas prices. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I'll echo the other responses you've received. I bought the 3.3 GL FWD and am very impressed with the vehicle. I drove everything and nothing came close to matching the value of the Santa Fe. It might not be the coolest looking or sportiest riding crossover but its looks are not unattractive and it rides nice & smooth, has lots of space and is just as reliable as Honda or Toyota as we're starting to see from some long term reliability studies from the 2007 Santa Fe where it's actually beating the RAV & CRV. As for price $300-500 over invoice seems fair these days and I would recommend the 3.3 for the extra $1100. It'll cost you a couple hundred extra in gas/yr but this engine is more refined and is also mated with a 5 speed transmission versus the 4 speed with the 2.7. It's a better combo and is whisper quiet.

[LuckyJim]

I picked up an Elantra GL auto a couple of weeks ago from Gatineau Hyundai. It's the first car I've ever purchased and was expecting a horrorshow of high pressure sales tactics etc.

Told the salesman that I'd phoned around and if he wanted my business he had to beat the best quote I'd got so far. Which he did. By $100. They tried to fob off the extended warranty and all that jazz, but a firm "no" and they desisted immediately. Picked up the car a few days later, got home and realized they'd thrown in free rubber mats for the back and front which I hadn't even asked for. A totally stress free and good experience.

Anyway, got it for $19,100 taxes and all fees included and am really happy with it.

[FordPLG]

Model: 2009 Hyundai Santa Fe 3.3L FWD GL
Price: (OTR) 29330.
Time: May 30, 2009 (End of month is good time to deal.)
Dealer: Kingscross, Toronto.
Method: email to 6 dealers, this one responded first, then back and forth 3 times to make the deal.
Shoplist: RAV4 V6, Venza V6, Rogue, Edge, Escape, Equinox, CX7, Outlander, Torrent, Outback, Forester.
Pros: Very rich standard features, very nice interior, good exterior/style, very quiet, powerful (3.3L).
Cons: Rear lights shape

[justDeals]

Just picked up my 09 GLS,

CCC Invoice Price = $30,719.00 + tax
OTR = $31,500 + winter rubber mats

I dont know how dealer can make any money off that. So far have been very pleased with the car.

Thanks to all, would have not been possible without help from all who contributed to this post.

jD.

[justDeals]

Model: 2009 Hyundai Santa Fe 3.3L FWD GL
Price: (OTR) 29330.
Time: May 30, 2009 (End of month is good time to deal.)
Dealer: Kingscross, Toronto.
Method: email to 6 dealers, this one responded first, then back and forth 3 times to make the deal.
Shoplist: RAV4 V6, Venza V6, Rogue, Edge, Escape, Equinox, CX7, Outlander, Torrent, Outback, Forester.
Pros: Very rich standard features, very nice interior, good exterior/style, very quiet, powerful (3.3L).
Cons: Rear lights shape


Thats a very good price i must say. I also dealt with Kingcross but just didnt worked out since they didnt had GLS for an immidiate delivery.

[Matty]

Just picked up my 09 GLS...
OTR = $31,500 + winter rubber mats


INVOICE is $30719 and you got it for $27876 before tax?!

That sounds impossible. They made a mistake surely. Plz share the dealer name in a PM. TIA.

[geokots]

Not a deal but just ordered my Genesis Coupe. 4-6 wait for delivery... DAMN must be as bad as labour for a guy to wait that long for a car.

[geokots]

I was able to get $500 off MSRP on my 2.0t base. Contact Barry @ cars4u.com - bthomas@cars4u.com.

I take delivery in a little less than two weeks and the wait is killing me!

You can definately get more than $500 off. I got almost $1,600 off my base 2.0t.

[vijskan]

Not a deal but just ordered my Genesis Coupe. 4-6 wait for delivery... DAMN must be as bad as labour for a guy to wait that long for a car.

hey, could you post the details of ur transaction (price/financing)

i am looking to get a genesis coupe for my first car. i dont know much about cars and financing and am looking to know what to aim for. any suggestions would be appreciated!

[Marlek]

You can definately get more than $500 off. I got almost $1,600 off my base 2.0t.

That's fairly rare, from what I've read. You should post the details of the dealership so that others can benefit. It's too late for me... I took possession on Saturday, and I'm loving it so far!

[rec28]

Just picked up my 09 GLS,

CCC Invoice Price = $30,719.00 + tax
OTR = $31,500 + winter rubber mats

I dont know how dealer can make any money off that. So far have been very pleased with the car.

Thanks to all, would have not been possible without help from all who contributed to this post.

jD.


?!?!?!! Something's not right here. Does the $31,500 truly include everything - taxes, fees, freight, etc? There's either another part of this story or you just got a truly incredible deal!

Edit: Ah - you got the FWD, not the AWD. Still, you got a great deal - congrats!

[geokots]

That's fairly rare, from what I've read. You should post the details of the dealership so that others can benefit. It's too late for me... I took possession on Saturday, and I'm loving it so far!

I don't think it's that rare because they offered it from the start. It's Mississauga Hyundai. Asl from Brian Tan.

I bought the base model. MSRP came out to $29,980 OTR. I got it for $28,400.

[geokots]

hey, could you post the details of ur transaction (price/financing)

i am looking to get a genesis coupe for my first car. i dont know much about cars and financing and am looking to know what to aim for. any suggestions would be appreciated!

Pricing is in my previous post. I didn't finance so I'm not sure what they're offering now but I'm pretty sure current rate is something like 2.7% (or 2.75%).

[amz155]

We are in the market for a new car and after finding this forum we learned about the great deal offered on the Hyundai Elantra. So far all our research has been done via the net since we dont really need the car until the fall. But we are thinking that maybe we should act sooner or later before the great deals end.

Anyway, i was mentioning the CCC and APA reports to my dad this evening (who is skeptical of everything) and he says it sounds too good to be true, almost "scamlike"...lol. I want to shoe him that these reports are for real and they can be used to negotiate a better deal. I'm eager to show him, ha!

I thought I had previously bookmarked the CCC report for a 2009 Hyundai Elantra GL Auto but now my link doesn't work :(

Tried performing a search but I've been sifting thru threads for an hour now and nothing.

Anyone got it?

Any idea on how long the deals on the Elantra will last?

Thanks.

[Matty]

Just picked up my 09 GLS,
CCC Invoice Price = $30,719.00 + taxOTR = $31,500 + winter rubber mats
I dont know how dealer can make any money off that. So far have been very pleased with the car.Thanks to all, would have not been possible without help from all who contributed to this post.jD.

JustDeals, what was the answer in the end -- did the dealership REALLY make a huge pricing mistake? Did you truly pay $27876 before tax for a Santa Fe FWD 3.3L GLS ??

[moose3833]

JustDeals, what was the answer in the end -- did the dealership REALLY make a huge pricing mistake? Did you truly pay $27876 before tax for a Santa Fe FWD 3.3L GLS ??

I'll confirm but my brother pretty much got the same deal. He used a consumer report car report to do so.

[ethanoreo]

Anyone hear any news on the new Sante Fe arrival date. I read late 2009/early 2010 for the 2010 refreshed miodel...anyone hear anything more concrete? Will it be the 2011 model?

[seafish]

It seems that there are no 09 Sonatas left at dealeships. At least GL Autos.
Does anyone have 2010 Sonata GL Auto CCC or ATA report?
So far the best deal I could make on it is $19,995 +PDI +TAX with 0% over 48 month (which really means 400ish less the price cause financing is 0.9% for 2010). Which comes to about $24,700 OTR. So, I get $2500 rebate and ~1900 off from a dealer.
Do you guys think it's good deal or can they do any better?
The difference between 2009 and 2010 in term of price is that 2010 is $600 more MSRP and incentives are $1000 less.

One dealer has 09 GL Sport Demo with 15000 km on it. Anyone has idea of how much can I get off from it? MSRP is $25700 - $3500.

[Johnny Walker]

2009 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto L
Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $17,045.00 $16,104.00
Freight $1,495.00 $1,495.00
Totals including all items above $18,540.00 $17,599.00

Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2009
Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate $3,850.00 April 30, 2009
Graduate Rebate Program $500.00 April 30, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.00% 24 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 0.00% 36 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 0.90% 48 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 60 April 30, 2009
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 2.55% 60/84 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 72 April 30, 2009
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 24 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 36 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 48 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 60 April 30, 2009
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
The Graduate Rebate Program can be combined with any other available factory incentive. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.
No Security Deposit required on all leases.
Please consult your dealer regarding The Future Value Finance Program for further details.
The Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate can be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates) excluding the Dealer cash, if available. Please note a dealer participation fee of $500 applies which needs to be added to the Wholesale Price Total. Please consult your dealer for further details.

I am looking to buy an Elantra L Sdn Auto. Found the above earlier in the thread, but it appears the price has not changed since Apr - the Hyundai build and price website still say 17,045.00 is the base price for this model.
the difference between the retail and wholesale price is $17,045.00 minus $16,104.00 = $941. But since the dealer needs to pay a $500 participation fee, this difference is reduced to $441. Does this mean that the dealer is only making $441 profit on the website price? This works out to 2.5% profit margin, which seems kind of low - I thought you could haggle at least a few hundred off the website price for most cars.

[amz155]

2009 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto L
Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $17,045.00 $16,104.00
Freight $1,495.00 $1,495.00
Totals including all items above $18,540.00 $17,599.00

Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2009
Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate $3,850.00 April 30, 2009
Graduate Rebate Program $500.00 April 30, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.00% 24 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 0.00% 36 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 0.90% 48 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 60 April 30, 2009
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 2.55% 60/84 April 30, 2009
Retail Finance 2.55% 72 April 30, 2009
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 24 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 36 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 48 April 30, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 5.90% 60 April 30, 2009
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
The Graduate Rebate Program can be combined with any other available factory incentive. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.
No Security Deposit required on all leases.
Please consult your dealer regarding The Future Value Finance Program for further details.
The Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate can be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates) excluding the Dealer cash, if available. Please note a dealer participation fee of $500 applies which needs to be added to the Wholesale Price Total. Please consult your dealer for further details.

Anyone got the report for the GL model. I've found the reports for the L and the GL w/ sport, Limited and Touring but not the GL yet. Anyone?

[dollar]

Alpine Hyundai in Kitchener (ON) is advertising that they will extend the total comprehensive warranties to 7 years on purchases made by June 30.

[Darren I]

:cheesygri Almost got the deal all wrapped up ,thanks to a lot of research on here ,Santa Fe gl 3.3 ,,OTD $29180 .00,,,,I think it's a great price and just wondering if anyone has any feedback possitive or negative before we sign off on this vehicle,,oh yeah it's the front wheel drive.Got our first price in windsor it was $31,000 ,then called LOndon it was $29,960 but he said any price we got he could beat so we called Toronto and got a price of 29,300 called London back and $29180 nice!!!!Although the one in toronto came with a cruise of some sort from miami but it sounded a little sketchy ,so that might be of interest to some?Thanks to all of you for your great posts!you really helped me alot. :D

[smit]

:cheesygri Almost got the deal all wrapped up ,thanks to a lot of research on here ,Santa Fe gl 3.3 ,,OTD $29180 .00,,,,I think it's a great price and just wondering if anyone has any feedback possitive or negative before we sign off on this vehicle,,oh yeah it's the front wheel drive.Got our first price in windsor it was $31,000 ,then called LOndon it was $29,960 but he said any price we got he could beat so we called Toronto and got a price of 29,300 called London back and $29180 nice!!!!Although the one in toronto came with a cruise of some sort from miami but it sounded a little sketchy ,so that might be of interest to some?Thanks to all of you for your great posts!you really helped me alot. :D

Looks like about $120 over dealer cost which is a super deal...just make sure it truly is OTD. I had a dealer verbally agree to a similar price and when they put it on paper they added the mysterious "Admin charge". I bought elsewhere and ended up at $29,479 (13% tax) which was the best price I could get to. Great vehicle, love mine so far.

[ells]

Anyone got the report for the GL model. I've found the reports for the L and the GL w/ sport, Limited and Touring but not the GL yet. Anyone?

2009 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto GL
4-door Mid-Size Passenger Car

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 5 Years/100,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 8.2
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 6.0

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $19,295.00 $18,060.00
Freight $1,495.00 $1,495.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $20,890.00 $19,655.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-5% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.

Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 July 31, 2009
Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate $3,500.00 July 31, 2009
Graduate Rebate Program $500.00 July 31, 2009
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.00% 24 July 31, 2009
Retail Finance 0.00% 36 July 31, 2009
Retail Finance 0.90% 48 July 31, 2009
Retail Finance 3.15% 60 July 31, 2009
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 3.15% 60/84 July 31, 2009
Retail Finance 3.15% 72 July 31, 2009
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 8.25% 24 July 31, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 8.25% 36 July 31, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 8.25% 48 July 31, 2009
Promotional Lease Rate 8.25% 60 July 31, 2009

General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
The Graduate Rebate Program can be combined with any other available factory incentive. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.
No Security Deposit required on all leases.
Please consult your dealer regarding The Future Value Finance Program for further details.
The Stackable Cash Discount/Factory to Dealer Rebate can be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates) excluding the Dealer cash, if available. Please note a dealer participation fee of $500 applies which needs to be added to the Wholesale Price Total. Please consult your dealer for further details.

[bbc_123]

Anyone got the report for the GL model. I've found the reports for the L and the GL w/ sport, Limited and Touring but not the GL yet. Anyone?

Haven't got the report but bought GL a couple of months back. Was looking to purchase Elantra L but L version didn't come with AC which I was looking For. So purchase GL. The difference between GL and GLS was another 2-3K and the main difference between the two is that GLS has disc brakes for both front and back whereas GL has disc brake at the front and drum brake at the back.

The only other difference I was able to find was that GLS comes with leather steering wheel cover and GL doesn't. And for these two features (actually just one since leather steering wheel cover isn't a biggie) i wasn't willing to pay an extra 2 to 3 grand.


Have driven the car (GL) for couple of months now and have to say I am satisfied.

[amz155]

thanks ells!

[amz155]

Please note a dealer participation fee of $500 applies which needs to be added to the Wholesale Price Total.

What does this mean?

In what cases does the $500 get added on?

[lhsonic]

What does this mean?

In what cases does the $500 get added on?

All cases. Simply add $500 to the dealer price, it's the price they pay to the factory to participate in the promo and offer you $3500 off. Basically, they pay you $500 and the factory pays you $3000.

[amz155]

What's the better deal:

-as per CCC report base price of the 09 Elantra GL Auto is $18,060
-4 year financing is 0.9 %, 3 year is 0% (we'd most likely need 4 year)

-saw an ad in the paper for a 2009 Sonata GL Auto starting price of $19, 895
-4 year financing is 0%

(In either cases I'm talking base price, without freight AC tax, tax)

Isn't the Sonata a better deal since you get more car for the money you pay?

Also, if we'd need a 4 year financing, wouldn't the slight increase in base price for the Sonata pay for itself when compared to the 0.9% financing we'd get for the Elantra?

[Lukus]

-saw an ad in the paper for a 2009 Sonata GL Auto starting price of $19, 895
-4 year financing is 0%

Isn't the Sonata a better deal since you get more car for the money you pay?



I'm shopping for a new car and the Elantra and Sonata were at the top of my list. I don't know that you can get 0% interest on 4 yrs... their website shows 3.15%. The price quoted on your ad is the same as on Hyundai's website. The 09 is the way to go... same car as the 2010 but $4,500 off! Of course, the car is already a year older and if you don't intend on keeping the car long term, buying a 2010 might be a wiser purchase.

Now what I want to know is what kind of a deal can I expect given there's already a $4,500 rebate on the car. I was offered the sports package (GL auto) for half price ($2,300 option) which includes sunroof, fog lights, spoiler, sports suspension and 17" alloy wheels. Is it worth it and can I get more out of the deal? Was hoping to get a set of winter tires/rims thrown in but that's worth about $1,000 so I might have to settle for the bug deflector, mud guards and block heater.

Also, how should I approach the car trade-in? I actually have two cars to trade in... a 94 Camry and a 98 Mystique. Hoping to get $2,000 total. Realistic? Will they want to thrown in the other stuff if I have trade-ins?

[amz155]

Yeah I did see that when I went to the website the 4 years rate for the Sonata GL was 3.15%.....but it looks like that is for the 2010 model. There was an ad in my local Brampton paper on July 3, 2009 that advertises the 4 year 0% rate on the "2009 Sonata GL with Automatic", priced at $19, 895.

It could be an error I suppose.

The ad is from the new Hyundai dealership that opened so maybe its a grand opening special?

[dangb]

Haven't got the report but bought GL a couple of months back. Was looking to purchase Elantra L but L version didn't come with AC which I was looking For. So purchase GL. The difference between GL and GLS was another 2-3K and the main difference between the two is that GLS has disc brakes for both front and back whereas GL has disc brake at the front and drum brake at the back.

The only other difference I was able to find was that GLS comes with leather steering wheel cover and GL doesn't. And for these two features (actually just one since leather steering wheel cover isn't a biggie) i wasn't willing to pay an extra 2 to 3 grand.


Have driven the car (GL) for couple of months now and have to say I am satisfied.

This information is not quite correct you forgot to add:

Steering Wheel Audio Controls (don't have to take your hands off the wheel)
Side and Roof Mounted Airbags (ie 6 airbags total vs 2 airbags)
Front Active Head Restraints (Prevents whiplash)
ABS and EBD Braking systems (Better/Safer stopping power)

So for your 2 grand you get a car that is much safer at avoiding accidents and safer for you to be in should you get into one compared to the GL.

This is straight from hyundaicanada.com so there is no excuse for spreading disinformation. As far as I am concerned the GLS is the one to buy if you care about safety in a vehicle.

[DrkMnX]

If anyone is seriously interested in purchasing a Hyundai and ready to make a purchase this month (July), PM me and I will get you a very good deal. I have already helped out a couple of members on here.

[weirdear]

pm sent.

Anyone have opinions on the GENESIS 4.6 SEDAN *no tech package*

loved the drive when we test drove it, we're just not sure about the overall value.

[capjap]

pm sent
looking at Tuscons, already have an elantra gt

[jbrajuka]

Hi,

I'm looking to make a deal on a '09 Santa Fe 3.3L AWD GLS, with
Hood deflector, Side Visors, Rear Spoiler, Cross Rails and Cargo Tray.
As well looking for the front windows to be tinted.

Used Car Cost Canada to find the dealer invoice.

I am wondering if $35,100Cdn out the door price is too low with the options described above?

Would appreciate opinions because I do not want to be laughed out of the dealers.

Per hyundai website, Without options, base price with PDI and $100 tax, is $34,905 then subtract $3000 to make it $31,905. Using the dealer invoice info, am I asking too much to get a base price of $30,000?

[seafish]

Yeah I did see that when I went to the website the 4 years rate for the Sonata GL was 3.15%.....but it looks like that is for the 2010 model.

I don't know where do you see 3.15%, but for me it's 0% for 2010 for 48 months.

[tchai]

pm sent

Looking for a Elantra GLS Sedan AUTO (not GL as mentioned in PM, as I need ABS)
I noticed that someone bought a Elantra GL AUTO for $19,100 incl. taxes cash price.
GLS cost $1300+tax=$1469 more than the GL. So the final price is $20569

I would like to finance it over 60 months @ 3.15%.

Doing the math, I am about $372 per month for 60 months.
That includes all taxes, fees, $500 participation fee, assumming some discounts, and some profit (about $300).

Is that possible? I am ready to buy the car today for $372 per month for 60 months.
Total after 60 months for me is $22320.

[WiseOx]

I just negotiated the purchase of a Elantra GLS for my mom, in Nova Scotia. A further -$500 off MSRP...no etch, no finance fee. As you can see from the CCC report above, this leaves less than $300 profit on the sale for the dealership (remember the dealership coughs up $500 of the $3500 discount). Surprised they were willing to go this low.

[tchai]

I just negotiated the purchase of a Elantra GLS for my mom, in Nova Scotia. A further -$500 off MSRP...no etch, no finance fee. As you can see from the CCC report above, this leaves less than $300 profit on the sale for the dealership (remember the dealership coughs up $500 of the $3500 discount). Surprised they were willing to go this low.

Was that a cash deal?
Mind sharing what was the final price after all taxes, fees, discounts, participation fees, profit, etc ?

[Lukus]

I'm meeting with the salesman tonight... looks like he's accepted my offer... I hope it's a good deal on my part as this is my first new car purchase... what do you think?

2009 Sonata GL Auto (4 cyl.) - $23,395
Sports package (sunroof, fog lamp, spoiler, 17" alloy wheels, sport suspension, leather bolsters) - $2,300

Discount: $4,500
50% off sports package: $1,150
Down payment: $4,000
Extra thrown in: set of 4 winter tires and rims

Term: 60 months
Interest: 3.15%

Payments with taxes and levies: $374.53 a month

** I wanted to trade in my 94 Camry & 98 Mystique but they were only offering $1000 for both.

[ziploc]

I'm meeting with the salesman tonight... looks like he's accepted my offer... I hope it's a good deal on my part as this is my first new car purchase... what do you think?

2009 Sonata GL Auto (4 cyl.) - $23,395
Sports package (sunroof, fog lamp, spoiler, 17" alloy wheels, sport suspension, leather bolsters) - $2,300

Discount: $4,500
50% off sports package: $1,150
Down payment: $4,000
Extra thrown in: set of 4 winter tires and rims

Term: 60 months
Interest: 3.15%

Payments with taxes and levies: $374.53 a month

** I wanted to trade in my 94 Camry & 98 Mystique but they were only offering $1000 for both.

Sorry i miscalculated it..

looks like great deal...congrats

[Lukus]

I'm meeting with the salesman tonight... looks like he's accepted my offer... I hope it's a good deal on my part as this is my first new car purchase... what do you think?

2009 Sonata GL Auto (4 cyl.) - $23,395
Sports package (sunroof, fog lamp, spoiler, 17" alloy wheels, sport suspension, leather bolsters) - $2,300

Discount: $4,500
50% off sports package: $1,150
Down payment: $4,000
Extra thrown in: set of 4 winter tires and rims

Term: 60 months
Interest: 3.15%

Payments with taxes and levies: $374.53 a month

** I wanted to trade in my 94 Camry & 98 Mystique but they were only offering $1000 for both.

Well now I'm pissed... just got back from dealer... he makes me come all the way over there to tell me there's basically no '09 Sonata's left in the country, so he can't do the deal. :mad:

I'm heading across the river on the Quebec side tomorrow to check another Hyundai dealer to see if that's true.

[seafish]

Well now I'm pissed... just got back from dealer... he makes me come all the way over there to tell me there's basically no '09 Sonata's left in the country, so he can't do the deal. :mad:

I'm heading across the river on the Quebec side tomorrow to check another Hyundai dealer to see if that's true.
Did you go to Bank Street Hyundai and salesmen was Elias?

[Lukus]

Did you go to Bank Street Hyundai and salesmen was Elias?

No, went to Pathway in Orleans.

Is this a tactic they use or are you recommending I go there?

[Matty]

Although all Hyundai ads and the website say it's $4k, it was confirmed by Finch Hyundai in an email to me today, July 9, 2009:


"...Currently Canadian Veracruz has a $6000 cash rebate on the vehicle, that brings us down to a similiar pricing with the American units and after exchange rates we are the same price."

[rysx]

just sharing deals done for 2 of my friends at the Kingcross in Scarborough.

09 Hyundai Tucson Limited 2wd
$29,900 total including all fees and taxes. (just have to add licensing)

09 Hyundai Elantra L 5 Speed + winter mats
$15,100 total including all fees and taxes. (just have to add licensing)


i referred them to my contact who i purchased my 09 santa fe gls 2wd back in feb.

I got it then for $31900 otd with the cargo shade ($267) + wheel locks ($35) as well. chose 5 yrs at .9% financing. this was after the hassle of dealing with 5 other dealerships

these guys will pretty much beat any competitors offers as long as your offer is over their dealer cost. (even slightly)

anyway if you are ready to buy and want to avoid playing games with other dealers, pm me and i'll send you my contact at kingcross.

[seafish]

No, went to Pathway in Orleans.

Is this a tactic they use or are you recommending I go there?

I think it's their tactic. They accepted my offer for 09 Sonata GL Auto on 18000$+taxes but then when I came he told me that it's already gone.

[Lukus]

I think it's their tactic. They accepted my offer for 09 Sonata GL Auto on 18000$+taxes but then when I came he told me that it's already gone.

Well their loss cause I just signed the papers at Bant St. Hyundai for the exact same deal. :D

[bbc_123]

I think it's their tactic. They accepted my offer for 09 Sonata GL Auto on 18000$+taxes but then when I came he told me that it's already gone.

Did $18000 also include freight charges?

[ethanoreo]

Although all Hyundai ads and the website say it's $4k, it was confirmed by Finch Hyundai in an email to me today, July 9, 2009:


"...Currently Canadian Veracruz has a $6000 cash rebate on the vehicle, that brings us down to a similiar pricing with the American units and after exchange rates we are the same price."

So is the Santa Fe promo different from the website as well? Anyone hear when the 2010 SF refresh is coming out?