View Full Version : Ideal photo size for digital frame display
tsttm
Dec 23rd, 2008, 11:54 AM
I got a 10" digital frame that has a 800x480 resolution.
I want to maximize the # of photos i can store on a card without affecting the quality of the photo. I figure the photos shot on digital camera are much greater resolution than needed for the digital frame..so i want to resize them before saving on a card to maximize the # of photos.
How do i figure out what the best way to resize them is? Should i do it by pixel & change it to 800x600 (yes i know the frame is widescreen, but i want to keep the ratio of my pics..so is 800x600 what i should do?).
any help appreciated. thanks.
twotterdhc6
Dec 23rd, 2008, 12:06 PM
Resize to 800x600, and crop the edges to make it 800x480. If you don't have your photos at the same aspect ratio as the picture frame, you'll either get black bands or your photos will be stretched, depending on your picture frame.
tsttm
Dec 23rd, 2008, 12:16 PM
ok thanks.
i notice the frame will not leave black bands or stretch the pic..it just zooms in a little to fill the frame. I don't mind it at all (although the settings can be changed).
it's much easier to batch resize than batch crop a bunch of pics...so i'll try that to start.
thanks.
vincent-poon
Dec 24th, 2008, 02:57 PM
what kinda frame is it? and how good does it look?
tsttm
Dec 25th, 2008, 10:36 AM
what kinda frame is it? and how good does it look?
it's a kodak 10" frame. it looks quite nice compared to the ones i looked at quickly in stores. i haven't done any side by side comparisons, so can't really say for sure. but kodak got good reviews & i'm happy.
so, i just want to optimize size usage.
Sgt_Strider
Dec 25th, 2008, 10:17 PM
I got a 10" digital frame that has a 800x480 resolution.
I want to maximize the # of photos i can store on a card without affecting the quality of the photo. I figure the photos shot on digital camera are much greater resolution than needed for the digital frame..so i want to resize them before saving on a card to maximize the # of photos.
How do i figure out what the best way to resize them is? Should i do it by pixel & change it to 800x600 (yes i know the frame is widescreen, but i want to keep the ratio of my pics..so is 800x600 what i should do?).
any help appreciated. thanks.
800x600 is not a widescreen resolution.
tsttm
Dec 25th, 2008, 10:38 PM
800x600 is not a widescreen resolution.
???
I said the frame was 800x480 but i am going to keep my pics at 800x600 (or equivalent ratio).
did i miss something?
Sgt_Strider
Dec 25th, 2008, 10:51 PM
???
I said the frame was 800x480 but i am going to keep my pics at 800x600 (or equivalent ratio).
did i miss something?
lol, I misread your post.
I don't understand why you want to resize your pics to 800x600 when your frame uses a different resolution. What's your logic in it?
l69norm
Dec 25th, 2008, 11:28 PM
....I want to maximize the # of photos i can store on a card without affecting the quality of the photo.....
You'll have to play with it to see what works. I got one of the Pandigital 8" 800X600 frames last year. I found that resizing photos to 1600X1200 had noticeably sharper results than 800X600.
It didn't make any sense to me as the frame is only 800X600, so it shouldn't make any difference.
Raycaster
Dec 27th, 2008, 04:56 PM
I also recieved the Kodak W1020 for Christmas and maybe I misread but I batched a whole lot of images to 800X600...
The frame is 800 X 480? No wonder it's cropping alot off the tops and bottoms...
Guess I'll have to build a crop and script macro in PS...
I also got a Christmas Ornament that has a 125X125 picture lcd in it. You can imagine how those great 15Mp images from the Canon 50D look on it:lol:
On the Kodak W1020 did you notice the over the top red/pink hue? I think every LCD Photo frame I have seen does the exact same thing.
Also, did you get the wireless working? My Apple Touch WIFI took 1 minute to setup but still farting around trying to get the frame to work!
tsttm
Dec 28th, 2008, 11:30 AM
lol, I misread your post.
I don't understand why you want to resize your pics to 800x600 when your frame uses a different resolution. What's your logic in it?
Well, i want to maintain the ratio of my photos. if i resize to 800x480, won't it stretch out the pics?
One solution would be to resize to 800x600 (or 1600x1200) & then crop it to 800x480..but that seems like a lot of work; i don't mind the frame doing the cropping for me on playback.
I also recieved the Kodak W1020 for Christmas and maybe I misread but I batched a whole lot of images to 800X600...
The frame is 800 X 480? No wonder it's cropping alot off the tops and bottoms...
Guess I'll have to build a crop and script macro in PS...
I also got a Christmas Ornament that has a 125X125 picture lcd in it. You can imagine how those great 15Mp images from the Canon 50D look on it:lol:
On the Kodak W1020 did you notice the over the top red/pink hue? I think every LCD Photo frame I have seen does the exact same thing.
Also, did you get the wireless working? My Apple Touch WIFI took 1 minute to setup but still farting around trying to get the frame to work!
Along the lines of my answer above, if you're gonna use a macro script to crop in PS, that means you have no control over what gets cropped & what doesn't...why wouldn't you just skip that step & accept how the frame crops your photos on playback? I like to use the zoom & pan transition effect on the screen, so it doesn't look so obvious what's being cut off or not..unless a whole face is cut off..:lol:
I can't say that I've noticed the red/pink hue..i can tell it's no where near as good as a computer lcd screen (up close)..but i'm quite happy with the display, i think it's quite good.
As for the wifi, I had no issues getting it connected to my desktop's folder/files..it probably took no more than a minute either. Is it connected at all? maybe double check your wifi password, once it connects, it will ask if you want to update the firmware, then it will create/setup folder sharing with your desktop (automatically)..then you're good to go.
It works, but it takes a hell of a long time to load the folders initially (once it starts to plays it fine). i haven't tried setting up with web media yet (like flickr or kodak galleries)..would like to try soon & see if it's better. let me know if you get that going.
Sgt_Strider
Dec 28th, 2008, 08:34 PM
Well, i want to maintain the ratio of my photos. if i resize to 800x480, won't it stretch out the pics?
One solution would be to resize to 800x600 (or 1600x1200) & then crop it to 800x480..but that seems like a lot of work; i don't mind the frame doing the cropping for me on playback.
IIRC, 800x600 has an aspect ratio of 4:3. Were your originals using that aspect ratio as well? You can crop to make it fit perfectly.
tsttm
Dec 30th, 2008, 11:30 AM
IIRC, 800x600 has an aspect ratio of 4:3. Were your originals using that aspect ratio as well? You can crop to make it fit perfectly.
my originals are in standard every day camera ratio..which i believe is 800x600 or 4:3 as you were saying.
The issue isn't getting it to that ratio..but maintaining that ratio while displaying on a 800x480 widescreen.
to be honest, that's not really the issue..i'm happy displaying 800x600 on the widescreen as is..by either telling it to fit to screen (cutting out a bit of top & bottom) or simply playing it as non-widescreen. the frame i got has a transition option where it zooms slightly & pans across the image- honestly, with that transition, it's not even noticeable that the pic is in a different ratio than the screen as it'll pan across the widescreen.
my issue really was to figure out what the smallest re-size was possible without affecting image quality on the screen. for now, i'm keeping it at 1600x1200 as suggested before & it seems fine.
anyone else with a kodak w1020 frame? i've got a few questions & haven't found a good photo/kodak forum to get help from.
CameraBill
Jan 3rd, 2009, 12:08 PM
my issue really was to figure out what the smallest re-size was possible without affecting image quality on the screen. for now, i'm keeping it at 1600x1200 as suggested before & it seems fine.
I've got a westinghouse and if I resize/crop to the native resolution it too looses something from the picture. At 1600x1200 it seems to capture as much detail as any other higher res picture. Not all scaling is made equal. I resize in Nikon Capture 4. The results from photoshop or any other program will give you slightly different results.
If you look at the resize of ACDSee classic just on the screen, it is very fast but very bad. I suspect the frames have a way of maximizing the detail from the LCD as there might be more to it than just pixels.