neighbor called the cops on me for .....

[etherfast]

Hi,

My next door neighbor called the cops on me for "trespassing" because I kindly shoveled his driveway. .... it ended he didn't charge me or anything, saying that was to teach me a lesson not to trespass.

Here is my story:

my next door neighbor is a nice guy who is in his mid to late 60's but still strong, active and going to work. This morning around 6 am I woke up for a washroom break and couldn't get back to sleep so i went out to shovel the driveway, I finished early and decided to kindly help my neighbor with his driveway since he sometime helps my parents with the garden that separates our driveways. As I was about to finish around 7:40ish am, he was coming out with his snow machine, he said "WTF are you doing???!!! ... i am calling the cops on you" and left inside.

I did it to be kind and also I needed the exercise. I shoveled his driveways nice and clean without damaging his garden, where I piled the snow where he usually pile on his grass side. So about 45 mins ago the cops came and talked to me.

I hate life ... I am nice to others and I always get SH*T from most of the people I try to be nice to. Like another time is I opened the door and held it for others and get no thank you ... when i say your welcome to them .. they just say ... "yeah yeah whatever" and a few times i got a thanks

[FazerRider]

sounds to me the problem is not you, but the old guy.

[deep]

Next time shovel your driveway ON to his driveway....just be sure not to set foot on it.

[trixstar]

he prob just woke up and threw a temper tandrum on ya lol

[Snicla]

He probably just felt that he didn't need your help, and got all angry about it. Old people are weird.

[D-Sisive]

call the cops on him when he touches ur part of the garden seperating the driveways...fkin douchebag

[ottawasportsfan2010]

Hi,

My next door neighbor called the cops on me for "trespassing" because I kindly shoveled his driveway. .... it ended he didn't charge me or anything, saying that was to teach me a lesson not to trespass.

Here is my story:

my next door neighbor is a nice guy who is in his mid to late 60's but still strong, active and going to work. This morning around 6 am I woke up for a washroom break and couldn't get back to sleep so i went out to shovel the driveway, I finished early and decided to kindly help my neighbor with his driveway since he sometime helps my parents with the garden that separates our driveways. As I was about to finish around 7:40ish am, he was coming out with his snow machine, he said "WTF are you doing???!!! ... i am calling the cops on you" and left inside.

I did it to be kind and also I needed the exercise. I shoveled his driveways nice and clean without damaging his garden, where I piled the snow where he usually pile on his grass side. So about 45 mins ago the cops came and talked to me.

I hate life ... I am nice to others and I always get SH*T from most of the people I try to be nice to. Like another time is I opened the door and held it for others and get no thank you ... when i say your welcome to them .. they just say ... "yeah yeah whatever" and a few times i got a thanks

Sometimes beeing nice gets you no where.About 10 years ago i did the same thing as you and got crapped on.They did not call the cops but told me never to do it again.

[MrBrown]

lol you probably made him feel old.

[HB85]

Next time shovel your driveway ON to his driveway....just be sure not to set foot on it.

Isn't this still considered as trespass?
I remember an example from a law textbook saying that if you throw a ball into someone's property without stepping on his property, it still counts as trespass. I think shoveling snow onto someone's property without setting a foot on their property will still count as trespass.

Anyway, yes life sucks. Don't help anyone because theres nothing good in return

[Amuthini]

he probably took it like you thought he wasn't able to take care of himself. just like how handicapped people sometimes get angry when you go out of your way to help them.

[thefleet]

Morale to the story: never help anyone :D

[DaVibe]

Next time you see him, without getting upset, you need to explain what you were doing and if anything, you can stop that from now on if he would like.
Maybe he wants the exercise? Who knows.

I think that just has to be explained once, that's all. Oh well.

[untaka]

stop being so nice, there is no need for it this is Toronto.

[Kranberry]

Hi,

My next door neighbor called the cops on me for "trespassing" because I kindly shoveled his driveway. .... it ended he didn't charge me or anything, saying that was to teach me a lesson not to trespass.

Here is my story:

my next door neighbor is a nice guy who is in his mid to late 60's but still strong, active and going to work. This morning around 6 am I woke up for a washroom break and couldn't get back to sleep so i went out to shovel the driveway, I finished early and decided to kindly help my neighbor with his driveway since he sometime helps my parents with the garden that separates our driveways. As I was about to finish around 7:40ish am, he was coming out with his snow machine, he said "WTF are you doing???!!! ... i am calling the cops on you" and left inside.

I did it to be kind and also I needed the exercise. I shoveled his driveways nice and clean without damaging his garden, where I piled the snow where he usually pile on his grass side. So about 45 mins ago the cops came and talked to me.

I hate life ... I am nice to others and I always get SH*T from most of the people I try to be nice to. Like another time is I opened the door and held it for others and get no thank you ... when i say your welcome to them .. they just say ... "yeah yeah whatever" and a few times i got a thanks

Forget the old guy. I'm surprised nobody asked this yet, as I'm really curious to know. What did the cops say to you and how did they handle this?

[coolspot]

I hate life ... I am nice to others and I always get SH*T from most of the people I try to be nice to. Like another time is I opened the door and held it for others and get no thank you ... when i say your welcome to them .. they just say ... "yeah yeah whatever" and a few times i got a thanks

Just don't expect anything when you do good things then you won't be disappointed when others do not reciprocate.

stop being so nice, there is no need for it this is Toronto.

I've noticed... Americans are so much more friendly than Canadians.

[jumbojones]

Cops actually came out for this? Don't they have better things to do? I'm surprised they didn't laugh him off or scold him for wasting their time when they came out.

[CanadianMike]

what a waste of the police.....

[etherfast]

Forget the old guy. I'm surprised nobody asked this yet, as I'm really curious to know. What did the cops say to you and how did they handle this?

When the cops came and just gave me the talk in their car with no hand cuffs if anyone is wondering ... luckily my parents wasn't home (I am 20 years old, so didn't need my parents anyways). There was 2 officers in one car that came, it started off them asking for my ids, then proceeded them asking me what happen and I told my story honestly, then they went to talk to my neighbour, they came back explained to me about it is an offence to trespass and I could be charge with a record .. bla bla bla and at the end the cops said concluding the conversation ... the guy is not charging me or anything and I was released.

I don't even know what to say about this and not sure what or how to tell my parents what happened this morning. I was feeling good this morning doing a good deed helping him out ... helping out a neighbour like a neighbour should be ... but I learned my lesson ... and this will be my first and last time helping him out.

[Instagator]

Don't be bothered by it. Id laugh it off if anything. The problem is with the old guy for sure. He might have been pissed because he wanted to shovel his own driveway with his new snowblower. lol

Anyway, kudos for helping out, but meh, you'll never help him with the snow again.

[fun4uoc]

Unbelievable, what the hell is this world coming to. Sounds like he is a di@#head of a bitter old man. Hopefully the cops just laughed it off. He said he did it to teach you a lesson? Screw him, don't even acknowledge that he is alive.

http://only-the-best.org/typolight/images/signature_ebay-canada.jpg

[cmge]

When the cops came and just gave me the talk in their car with no hand cuffs if anyone is wondering ... luckily my parents wasn't home (I am 20 years old, so didn't need my parents anyways). There was 2 officers in one car that came, it started off them asking for my ids, then proceeded them asking me what happen and I told my story honestly, then they went to talk to my neighbour, they came back explained to me about it is an offence to trespass and I could be charge with a record .. bla bla bla and at the end the cops said concluding the conversation ... the guy is not charging me or anything and I was released.

I don't even know what to say about this and not sure what or how to tell my parents what happened this morning. I was feeling good this morning doing a good deed helping him out ... helping out a neighbour like a neighbour should be ... but I learned my lesson ... and this will be my first and last time helping him out.
wasnt there a saying no good deeds go unpunished?

make sure its the last time he helps your parents garden too... or when helps your parents you should call the cops on him for trespassing.. :lol:

but man thats sucks dude... i think you should tell your parents about it, you did nothing wrong...

[perplexed_one]

never do something for someone if they don't ask for it (implicitly).
And if you still want to help, ask them if they want any help.

Those are the platinum rules.

[Topher]

make sure its the last time he helps your parents garden too... or when helps your parents you should call the cops on him for trespassing.. :lol:

+1. Then ask him if he likes being the recipient of the police visit.

[5tranger]

u took his exercise opportunity away, he needs it more than u :D

[Peckerwood]

It's private property...next time ask

:)

[ji2o0k]

make sure its the last time he helps your parents garden too... or when helps your parents you should call the cops on him for trespassing.. :lol:
+2.............just wait until spring and get him back....

Just make sure your parents don't ask for help.

LOL.........bitter old man.........he was probably looking forward to using his snowblower....don't worry about it too much, some people are just bitter (old and young).....

[poedua]

It's private property...

next time ask

:)

+1

You gotta learn to respect other people's property.

[Riffer]

Lol!

My mom saw the teenage girl from next door shovelling our sidewalk this morning and asked her why she was doing it?

I told her to shut up and not ask questions:lol:

[cmge]

Lol!

My mom saw the teenage girl from next door shovelling our sidewalk this morning and asked her why she was doing it?

I told her to shut up and not ask questions:lol:

seriously.. just take it for what it is... coz some people are just nice/bored/need exercise... unless they come knocking on your door asking for money after shoveling... :P

[FearSonic]

Ignore the people who said ask, this old coot is just off his rocker.

If people had to ask for every good deed, then there would be a lot less random good deeds done. Don't shovel his driveway anymore, because he clearly doesn't want you to, but continue being nice.

A-holes like that need to get punched in the face.

[jnfr]

Wow that's stupid. Even if it's "trespassing", there were no negative intentions attached. I can't believe he actually called the cops on you without even talking to you about it first.

Seems like you guys had a good rapport prior to this happening, maybe something happened to him in his personal life and he was taking it out on you.

As for telling your parents, just tell them straight up. If my son or daughter told me they helped the elderly man next door shovel his driveway, I'd be proud. Now, if I heard that the man called the cops on them for doing so, I would still support my kids and let them know they had good intentions.

[Keigotw]

he is dying to use his Snow machine and you didn't let him

[PrettyMao]

I think you should send him an invoice.

[poedua]

Wow that's stupid. Even if it's "trespassing", there were no negative intentions attached. I can't believe he actually called the cops on you without even talking to you about it first.

Seems like you guys had a good rapport prior to this happening, maybe something happened to him in his personal life and he was taking it out on you.

As for telling your parents, just tell them straight up. If my son or daughter told me they helped the elderly man next door shovel his driveway, I'd be proud. Now, if I heard that the man called the cops on them for doing so, I would still support my kids and let them know they had good intentions.

Or maybe not.

Perhaps this was the ' last straw ' the neighbour had dealing with the OP - we don't know the whole story ;) - prompting him to call the cops.

[Sazafraz]

I think you should send him an invoice.

haha:lol:

[Insane_Pikachu]

There is a reason why he has a snow machine. What's the point of having one when you can't use it. I bet he was anxious to use it until you did it for him.

[J W]

Wow, I don't know what to say to this lol. Seriously, next time he touches your property, call the cops on him for trespassing.

Where in Mississauga was this? I hope it's not near my area heh.

[etherfast]

Or maybe not.

Perhaps this was the ' last straw ' the neighbour had dealing with the OP - we don't know the whole story ;) - prompting him to call the cops.

This was my first time ever shoveling his driveway for him. We (parents and I) barely talk to him ... just the usualy "hi, how are?" and just like normal talk when we have time. My parents and I treat others like how we would like to be treated ... friendly, not rude , and so forth and ignore the "bad" people. Our part of the neighbour hood we don't usually talk much to each other.

[time space]

I'm surprised so many people are believing this story is true!

I might have believed the first part, but what really gave it away was the police reaction.

Sorry, I have to call BS on this thread.

[Peckerwood]

Ignore the people who said ask, this old coot is just off his rocker.

If people had to ask for every good deed, then there would be a lot less random good deeds done. Don't shovel his driveway anymore, because he clearly doesn't want you to, but continue being nice.

A-holes like that need to get punched in the face.
Seriously...re-read your post.

It isn't about a good deed...it is the fact that it is private property.

Respect that boundary

:)

[etherfast]

Wow, I don't know what to say to this lol. Seriously, next time he touches your property, call the cops on him for trespassing.

Where in Mississauga was this? I hope it's not near my area heh.

I live in the neigbourhood between Sherway Gardens and Dixie Mall ... main road is Sherway Drive (main road into the nieghbourhood) and Dixie Road.

[Bazooka Joe]

Just don't expect anything when you do good things then you won't be disappointed when others do not reciprocate.



I've noticed... Americans are so much more friendly than Torontonians.

Fixed ;)

[J W]

I'm surprised so many people are believing this story is true!

I might have believed the first part, but what really gave it away was the police reaction.

Sorry, I have to call BS on this thread.

police responding to useless calls and useless issues instead of doing something more useful? sounds true to me :)

[mcewen]

Forget all the people who are crapping on you for doing what you did.

Kudos to you! It is a sad world we are living in now.. and your good deed shows that everyone isn't only out for themselves and there are nice people out there still.

It isn't about "respecting boundaries" or personal property or anything like that. It is about someone trying to be nice.

In bad weather my wife and I shovel our driveway first, then will often continue around to our neighbours and shovel theirs as well. Often we will do 5 or 6 or 7 driveways in an hour or so. Sometimes as we are doing a driveway, the owner will come out and help, and then join us as we move to the next one as well. One time we had 5 people working on a driveway... it doesn't take that long when there are that many people working.

Back to the OP, I think that after emotions settle - perhaps tomorrow sometime you should knock on your neighbours door and explain that you meant no harm, but only wanted to help him out - perhaps there was a reason that you are unaware of that set him off. Perhaps he had just had a fight with his wife who was nagging him to get out there to shovel, and he didn't feel like it... seeing you there would make him feel annoyed just like his wife was making him feel..... Unless you talk to him, you will never know.

And if you want to come out to Oshawa.. you can shovel my driveway any time!

Merry Christmas!

[FearSonic]

Seriously...re-read your post.

It isn't about a good deed...it is the fact that it is private property.

Respect that boundary

:)

I completely respect that boundary, but "Sorry, could you not do that again? Thanks." would have sufficed over calling the cops.

I think if it's the first time, and the guy really doesn't want him shovelling his driveway, then a simple request can easily be filled, it's not that he's trespassing, it's that the guy completely overreacted.

[sleepyguy]

Just shrug it off... old dude just probably wanted some attention. our past house we had a guy a few housed down who did the entire street, pretty cool guy. We all chipped in and got him a turkey and a 24 pack on xmas. -sg

[FearSonic]

Forget all the people who are crapping on you for doing what you did.

Kudos to you! It is a sad world we are living in now.. and your good deed shows that everyone isn't only out for themselves and there are nice people out there still.

It isn't about "respecting boundaries" or personal property or anything like that. It is about someone trying to be nice.

In bad weather my wife and I shovel our driveway first, then will often continue around to our neighbours and shovel theirs as well. Often we will do 5 or 6 or 7 driveways in an hour or so. Sometimes as we are doing a driveway, the owner will come out and help, and then join us as we move to the next one as well. One time we had 5 people working on a driveway... it doesn't take that long when there are that many people working.

Back to the OP, I think that after emotions settle - perhaps tomorrow sometime you should knock on your neighbours door and explain that you meant no harm, but only wanted to help him out - perhaps there was a reason that you are unaware of that set him off. Perhaps he had just had a fight with his wife who was nagging him to get out there to shovel, and he didn't feel like it... seeing you there would make him feel annoyed just like his wife was making him feel..... Unless you talk to him, you will never know.

And if you want to come out to Oshawa.. you can shovel my driveway any time!

Merry Christmas!

The owners come out and help you? I wish I had that when I shovel other people's driveways!

[Nikita]

Morale to the story: never help anyone :D

Morale to the story: don't let one incident like this stop you from being a nice helpful guy. No matter how he reacted, in the bigger scheme of things you did the right thing and should still feel good about yourself which is what matters most. The vast majority of people would be very grateful. In my mom's neighborhood, there's a guy who often does a few neighbors driveways with his snowblower just to be nice. My mom is elderly and can't shovel and even though my nephews are always happy to come over and help, sometimes this guy gets to it before either of them can get here. Same with the garbage bins, most of us when we bring ours back from the road will also bring a couple of the adjacent neighbor's bin to their back yard at the same time, cuz it's just being nice and it's the right thing to do.

That's what neighbors are for, please don't let this one incident make you jaded, I'm sure other's you've done this for have been very grateful....think of them and how good it makes you feel when you help someone and they do appreciate it and let this one go.

Next time you see him, without getting upset, you need to explain what you were doing and if anything, you can stop that from now on if he would like.
Maybe he wants the exercise? Who knows.

I think that just has to be explained once, that's all. Oh well.

Not a bad idea. People need to be a little more tolerant of the behaviour of elderly people IMRO, none of us know what cards life is going to deal us and how we may turn out in our older ages. Hell, the guy may be in the early stages of dementia for all any of us know. IMO he's more to be pitied than hated, if he can't be grateful for something like this.

As for those saying respect his property, I really don't see this as disrespecting anything or anyone, quite the opposite. In this case, obviously you know he has a different view and you should (and likely will) stop helping him now, but I dont' think most people would consider this a lack of respect for someone's property.

[Peckerwood]

I completely respect that boundary, but "Sorry, could you not do that again? Thanks." would have sufficed over calling the cops.

I think if it's the first time, and the guy really doesn't want him shovelling his driveway, then a simple request can easily be filled, it's not that he's trespassing, it's that the guy completely overreacted.
If the guy wanted someone to shovel his driveway then he would have either asked in advance or would had put up a sign.

The fact that it is private property does not infer that there is some kind of one time infraction rule that allows people to trespass once and then be reminded that it is private property.

That inference already exists in the fact that it is already private property.

Simply put...ask first...if the guy says no then no harm done either.

[fastlayne]

OP, put the snow back onto his driveway. ;)

And next time only shovel the portion of the driveway that is on the street side of his property line. :lol: If he has a sidewalk, do that too!

[Stock R]

perhaps tomorrow sometime you should knock on your neighbours door

You're telling the OP to trespass again? The neighbour is going to call the cops!

OP - Good for you

OP's neighbour - Shame on you

[3weddings]

I am sorry that there are people out there like your neighbour!! Very sad indeed the way he treated you. I am astonished that the police didn't laugh it off, how was their demeanor? Did they actually take the neighbour seriously? Very sad!

I realize it was trespassing, but you did this out of charity....sheesh.....

[poedua]

This was my first time ever shoveling his driveway for him. We (parents and I) barely talk to him ... just the usualy "hi, how are?" and just like normal talk when we have time. My parents and I treat others like how we would like to be treated ... friendly, not rude , and so forth and ignore the "bad" people. Our part of the neighbour hood we don't usually talk much to each other.

Again, we just have your side of the story, so it's difficult to comment with any sort of certainty.

Seems to me if he's a ' nice guy ' as you say he is, it just might very well be ( i.e one possibility ) he didn't hold the same view of you and your family as you did of him for some reason - and has kept it feelings to himself and not said anything to you.

Common sense would suggest most ' normal ' people don't call the cops for trivial reasons like snow shoveling and as I said before, perhaps he's been tolerating your family and this driveway incident was the ' last straw ' in his mind. Assuming he's somewhat normal, calling the cops may simply be the result of some other things he's had issues with respect to your family and calling the cops reflected this.

Or, your neigbour may in fact be a jerk as you suspect, and your family doesn't have an acrimonious relationship with him. Tough to say.

Either way, if you don't your neighbour well, which it seems you don't - " We (parents and I) barely talk to him " - you should really learn to respect his ( other people's ) property.

Next time - ask first.:);)

[poedua]

If the guy wanted someone to shovel his driveway then he would have either asked in advance or would had put up a sign.

The fact that it is private property does not infer that there is some kind of one time infraction rule that allows people to trespass once and then be reminded that it is private property.

That inference already exists in the fact that it is already private property.

Simply put...ask first...if the guy says no then no harm done either.

+1

Always ask first.

[Bazooka Joe]

OP, put the snow back onto his driveway. ;)

And next time only shovel the portion of the driveway that is on the street side of his property line. :lol: If he has a sidewalk, do that too!

:lol:

That would be great for a laugh. Of course it would escalate things quite a bit though.

[AirBosh]

Bah Humbug!!!

[ells]

Want 15 minutes of fame? Keep shoveling his driveway. If he is true to his word he WILL press charges next time. You will go to court (make sure to let the media know of your plight). Then let the social discussion explode.

You will be hailed as the "Last Samaritan of Toronto". A movie or book deal could very well be in your future. :) I am sure Oprah would be interested too.

I jest. But only because I sympathize with you.

[mightylobo]

Old people are crazyyyyyyyyy

[jnfr]

Want 15 minutes of fame? Keep shoveling his driveway. If he is true to his word he WILL press charges next time. You will go to court (make sure to let the media know of your plight). Then let the social discussion explode.

You will be hailed as the "Last Samaritan of Toronto". A movie or book deal could very well be in your future. :) I am sure Oprah would be interested too.

I jest. But only because I sympathize with you.

Hey, that actually sounded like a good idea :lol:

Another 'the young vs the old' case?

[bobbings]

Did he charge the cops for trespassing on his property as well when they went to talk to him? lol

What about the mailman and the door to door salesmen?

What about the milkman who delivers the milk to his door?

What about the birds, rabbits and skunks?

Tell him to call the cops on those pesky ants. He's got nothing better to do.

fyi, I am just kidding...

[takethat200210]

Obviously, the old man overreacted by calling the police. It’s a waste of resources.

That said, though I respect you for being a nice guy for helping the old man, there is a the law (criminal and civil) to respect. It’s a little extreme of a comparison, but it’s sort of like a doctor cannot perform medical procedures on a patient without first obtaining the patient’s consent. Just because it makes you feel good to help and that you needed a workout doesn’t mean you can do so. Especially, in this case, you did in fact and in law infringed the law.

There’s a no reason to stop being a nice guy (ie. helping others). Sometimes, you just need to ask first.

[gman]

May be the old guy is like me who loves to shovel snow. Don't dare touch my driveway to take away my fun. May be the old guy is like me who has been waiting for so long to have a decent snow fall. Okay, I won't call police but don't touch my driveway. I gave my wife a ear full last time she cleaned my driveway many years ago. That took me longer to make it 'right'.

[alkaseltzer01]

Karma will get your neighbour...... like a heart attack next time he shovels his precious property.

[takethat200210]

A little bit of background on trespass to land (as a tort not a crime) - scroll down to paragraaph 32:

http://www.canlii.org/en/mb/mbca/doc/2004/2004mbca156/2004mbca156.pdf

[Nikita]

Karma will get your neighbour...... like a heart attack next time he shovels his precious property.

Your attitude is worse than the old guy's. Yeah, an old man deserves to die cuz he's old and likely not all there...mm hmm...:rolleyes:

[ji2o0k]

Karma will get your neighbour...... like a heart attack next time he shovels his precious property.
Your attitude is worse than the old guy's. Yeah, an old man deserves to die cuz he's old and likely not all there...mm hmm...:rolleyes:hahah........or maybe the old man will suffer a heart attack while snowblowing his driveway but unfortunately you don't know that, can't go over and see what the problem is because you know........that would be trespassing.......

so for all you know, it looks like to you that the old man is rolling around on his driveway and playing in the snow (but really is dying from his heart attack)....

...and you can shout and ask him "can i come over and see if you need any help?" but he doesn't answer you.

And if the cops ask you why you didn't go over and see if he needed help, you can respond by saying "well, last time I went over and shovelled his driveway without his permission, he called the cops on me for trespassing...."

wow, wouldn't that be something huh? :lol:

But seriously, calling the cops because you shoveled his driveway is a severe over-reaction. Even as others have stated that other transgression may have occurred in the past, a simple conversation with him airing his views would suffice.

[spazzamatic]

Morale to the story: never help anyone :D

totally.

+1

[Blackmajik]

totally.

+1

Totally agree from personal experiences.

[frankyflwrs]

he is dying to use his snow machine and you didn't let him

+1

[AcidBomber]

Your neighbour is ******** for calling the cops on you when you're just being nice by helping him shovel his driveway... What an overreaction.

[CheapScotsman]

Don't let one unappreciative neighbor ruin it. you did the right thing and that was very generous of your time and effort. Keep up the good work (but obviously not with him).

[tdott]

throw snow balls at his window.

[licious]

He sounds sounds old and bitter to me. Most normal people would have been thrilled that you went out of your way to do something nice for them. Don't let this one bad experience prevent you from helping others in the future. :)

[UncleSteve]

only help your lazy neighbours who rarely shovel their driveway/sidewalk.

Only help people who are worthy.


People who are too lazy to shovel are hardly worthy of receiving help.

[totech]

People who are too lazy to shovel are hardly worthy of receiving help.

I agree.

My neighbour and I share the load, although I generally try to get out before him - we took 15 minutes today together clearing each other's property.

My neighbour on the other side though... She has a bunch of lazy stay at home kids, and no-one does anything around there at all. Generally she will clear the snow days later. I used to help, but there was no reciprocation.

[shipill]

wow unbelievable!!

[Mattones]

My bosses dad is 75 and works with us the odd time. Strong as a bull and can be grumpy as hell.

he was prob just grumpy. But i dont see why he would call the police. Thatd be the last time i shovel his.

[joeym]

is your neighbor's name OSCAR?

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/c/c9/OG-p0002-ST.jpg

[blainehamilton]

I'd make sure all the other neighbors know about what happened. Who knows, he might be a jerk to everybody...


My guess is this is the start of senility. Sure, it would be understandable to be a little upset if someone takes away your 'job' or 'trespasses' on your property, but calling the cops is not something a person of sound mind would do over this.

I hope the cops gave the old fart a stern lecture on the matter. Wasting taxpayer resources...

[comicbookguy]

we used to shovel our neighbour's driveway when we noticed he was either not home yet, or was out of town. actually we still do it. i can't see why anyone would object to that other than being in a grumpy mood. technically it is trespassing, but i'm sure it's also some sort of violation to pick up an item that someone dropped on the ground or the tons of other good deeds out there. don't let that one person affect your view of society.

[Troi]

I think you were a real sweetheart for shoveling his driveway....wish you were my neighbor!

You did something nice for someone....I hope that something nice comes your way soon!

Honestly, this story is crazy!

[mingyang]

I lol'd

[GemInite]

Don't worry about it. The officers had to give you that speech because it's their job. They can't charge you unless they witness it e.g. they ask you to leave and you don't.

I doubt the cops even really cared.

A few years ago I was with a friend shooting a film and we turned down a one way street by accident so we turned into a parking lot right away. An older couple came running out yelling at us. We said we're sorry we had no idea that's why we're in the parking lot now.

They just kept yelling so we ignored them. We took out our camera equipment as we were doing a school project and they started yelling we needed a permit.

Cops showed up 1 officer took us aside and we told em what happened. The couple was still yelling but now at the other officer. The cops straight out said well we can't do anything because we didn't witness anything so no laws have been broken. Then the cop talking to us says I'm going to write this stuff down and pretend I care but so you guys know this couple calls us every time something like this happens. Apparently one of her friends died by getting hit by a car going down the same street so now she calls like 3 X a week.

Then the cop goes "some people are just a**holes"

Oh and when they started saying we were filming illegally the cops were just like ummm we can't stop people from not shooting stuff on the street. That's not private property. Couple was like but they need a permit. Cops were like no they don't. Should we start arresting every person who uses a digital camera also?

[yao416]

Don't worry about it. The officers had to give you that speech because it's their job. They can't charge you unless they witness it e.g. they ask you to leave and they don't.

I doubt the cops even really cared.

A few years ago I was with a friend shooting a film and we turned down a one way street by accident so we turned into a parking lot right away. An older couple came running out yelling at us. We said we're sorry we had no idea that's why we're in the parking lot now.

They just kept yelling so we ignored them. We took out our camera equipment as we were doing a school project and they started yelling we needed a permit.

Cops showed up 1 officer took us aside and we told em what happened. The couple was still yelling but now at the other officer. The cops straight out said well we can't do anything because we didn't witness anything so no laws have been broken. Then the cop talking to us says I'm going to write this stuff down and pretend I care but so you guys know this couple calls us everytime something like this happened. Apparently one of her friends died by getting hit by a car going down the same street so now she calls like 3 X a week.

Then the cop goes "some people are just *******s"

Oh and when they started saying we were filming illegally the cops were just like ummm we can't stop people from not shooting stuff on the street. That's not private property. Couple was like but they need a permit. Cops were like no they don't. Should we start arresting every person who uses a film camera now also?


This makes me want to slap the couple :|

[nano]

wow some people are ********..

[Gloaming]

no good deed goes unpunished.

[iluvmikeharris]

If the story is actually true, and if he ever "helps" with your garden again, call 911 and DO press charges. That'll learn him.

And if he does have a heart attack when he shovels his driveway sometime, yell over "I'm calling the paramedics for you right now", and then don't.

[Sonbuster]

i'm interested in knowing what the cops said.

what did they say?

[molala]

next time...come and shovel my driveway instead!

[plymouthhater]

I had a neighbour mow my lawn once. We were particularly busy at work and I was putting a lot of OT that week and I didn't get around to mowing my lawn for a few days till the grass was around 4 inches high.

One day I arrived home from work and the lawn was mowed. The neighbour came over and told me that he noticed my lawn was getting a bit "overgrown" and that he mowed it for me.

I'll bet you are all thinking "what a nice neighbour", however you have to understand the context of the situation. My neighbour was an arrogant d*ck. He would go out of his way to complain about everything. I was doing landscaping (interlocking brick) and piled some of the removed sod and dirt on the street immediately in front of my house - I live on a court with very little traffic. The neighbour asked me if he could have all of the builder's patio stones that I removed and was replacing with interlocking brick. I gave him the stones. Then he asked if he could borrow my rental plate tamper. So I lent it to him. Then he piled sod that he removed on to the dirt pile in front of my house. A few days later he called the Town to complain about the dirt pile - part of which he created.

This same idiot put his house up for sale and went around the neighbourhood telling everyone that he was moving because the "subdivision was going downhill". Lo and behold I found out from the people that purchased his house that when they searched title as part of the closing of their home purchase that the arrogant d*ck was a few years behind in his property tax.

[EscaBoi]

What goes around comes around, so keep doing those good deeds and good will come to you one day... well that's how I see it.

[tonychau]

You should make it up with the old man with a batch of Holiday Cookies!

Seriously, the old man lost his mind and he needs your good heart!

Try talk some sense / communicate with him.

[Krox]

You should make it up with the old man with a batch of Holiday Cookies!

Seriously, the old man lost his mind and he needs your good heart!

Try talk some sense / communicate with him.

It's like the story of the teen girls in the US, who made cookies for their neighbour. They left them on the back door after knocking. The neighbour got scared and sued the girls (successfully) for emotional distress.

[Moerby]

I completely respect that boundary, but "Sorry, could you not do that again? Thanks." would have sufficed over calling the cops.

Agreed 100% - that would be the rational, civilized response. Calling the cops for something like this is a complete waste of my tax dollars.

[deltone]

It's like the story of the teen girls in the US, who made cookies for their neighbour. They left them on the back door after knocking. The neighbour got scared and sued the girls (successfully) for emotional distress.

I remember hearing about that on tv. Amazing, really.

OP, I think you are a very fine young man and do NOT let this incident change you one iota. Stay the way you are, do not get bitter or angry as if you allow that to happen, when you are that neighbour's age you could be as angry and bitter as he seems to be. Don't let that happen. You know you did a good thing and leave it at that.

As far as the neighbour goes, keep in mind that you probably don't have his whole story. He may very well be emotionally disturbed or unstable. I have a son who is bi-polar and I can tell you that sometimes his moods go from being one of the nicest young men, to being a rather odd young man so I do know that the mind can be a very strange thing, and it's quite sad really.

Cut the guy a bit of slack and give him the benefit of the doubt, but stay true to yourself and don't let this incident change who you are. Your parents obviously have done a good job with you and don't let anyone change that!!

As far as those who are telling you that you were wrong and that you WERE trespassing, ignore that baloney. There are many things that require common sense and these people just are not using common sense when they say that. Technically , everyone who walks up to your door is trespassing. What if someone saw your house on fire and went up to the door to warn you of the pending danger? By the letter of the law, trespassing, but sheesh, use common sense people.

It's nice, in this day and age, to see that there are still those who will lend a helping hand. GOOD FOR YOU, and be a little sad for the neighbour. Imagine being that angry and bitter? How sad is that?|

[Maxman]

Agreed 100% - that would be the rational, civilized response. Calling the cops for something like this is a complete waste of my tax dollars.


Well, if that don't pi$$ you off, then here's my story...

I live on a lake. My kids and all their friends love to play hockey - so its a natural that I put a rink on the lake every year. I invite all the people in the neighbourhood to freely use the rink - only that theyhelp shovel from time to time.

Last year we have a fair bit of snow, so the snowbanks on my rink were fairly high (probably 18-20" above ice level). Well, don't I get a visit one night from the Regional Police to advise my that I have to take down the snow banks on my rink because they received complaints from snowmobilers that the rink is a danger to them. The cop actually showed up, took pictures and measurements and told me that I could be criminally negligent if a snowmobiler hit the snow banks.

Now, the lake is frozen from shore to shore, and is plenty wide for about 100 rinks and still room for snowmobilers. Why they would have to travel within 100' of the shoreline - or why they are allowed to travel that close at speeds in excess of 100MPH (seriously!) is amazing. The cop actually told me that there's no speed limit on the lake and that the snowmobilers can go wherever they want.

So - you can drive 100MPH with kids around, but don't have a rink! If I could stand Don Cherry, I would have called him on this one!

To the OP...

I'd honestly call the police or the ombudsman and file a complaint that they are wasting our tax dollars. And if your neighbour ever needs help - help him. It'll probably piss him off more if you help than if you walk away. Some people just want a reason to be angry.

Maxman

[watching]

As far as the neighbour goes, keep in mind that you probably don't have his whole story.

Neither does anyone here have the neighbour's side of this story. I call b.s. on this tale of a neighbour going so far as to call the cops while the OP did/said nothing to the guy. Hell, if the neighbour is that psycho the whole neighbourhood would know it and everyone would know to stay away from his property in the first place since it wouldn't have been the first time he's called the cops on someone. Nope.....this tale doesn't pass the smell test.

[deltone]

Neither does anyone here have the neighbour's side of this story. I call b.s. on this tale of a neighbour going so far as to call the cops while the OP did/said nothing to the guy. Hell, if the neighbour is that psycho the whole neighbourhood would know it and everyone would know to stay away from his property in the first place since it wouldn't have been the first time he's called the cops on someone. Nope.....this tale doesn't pass the smell test.

Well, what you say could be said about practically everything that is posted on these boards so what's your point? Unless you are present for every single thing that goes on on this planet, you have the choice of either believing what you are being told, or not believing it. None of us know if any of the stuff written here is true or not.

That being said, does it make sense that a neighbour would call the cops under these circumstances? No, it doesn't, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I see stuff on a regular basis from people, be it neighbours, local town folk, family members and friends that makes me sit here in amazement, shaking my head, not believing what I just saw or heard, and I know I'm not alone in this.

[flexwong]

maybe he just bought his snowblower and wanted to give it a go. you deprived him of that privilege.

what a jerk btw.

[watching]

Well, what you say could be said about practically everything that is posted on these boards so what's your point?

It's called posting an opinion related to the topic. Like I said, I don't believe the OP's story, or at least I think there's more to the story than what's been posted. If you believe it, good for you. That's your prerogative.

[Peckerwood]

Castle Law?
Hmmmmm

:)

[Gloaming]

It's called posting an opinion related to the topic. Like I said, I don't believe the OP's story, or at least I think there's more to the story than what's been posted. If you believe it, good for you. That's your prerogative.

sorry Dad, we'll all stop discussing this now as I am sure that you know MUCH better than anyone else.

[watching]

sorry Dad, we'll all stop discussing this now as I am sure that you know MUCH better than anyone else.

Deltone asked me what the point of my earlier post was, so now you run in and post that nonsense after I respond to Deltone's post? Grow up.

[Peckerwood]

Grow up.
Patronize much?

:lol:

[iam_immigrant]

Like another time is I opened the door and held it for others and get no thank you ... when i say your welcome to them .. they just say ... "yeah yeah whatever" and a few times i got a thanks


I used to get this a lot. Now if I see someone who able bodied I will pretend to hold the door then let it go last minute and watch their reaction. And if I don't hold the door for them they give me a dirty look like it's my fcuking duty. Flame or call me whatever names you want.



Morale to the story: never help anyone :D

Amen to that.

[akbar_k]

PM me, I'll fix your neighbor.

[andrew2good4u]

lol he just wanted to play with his snowblower and you ruined his fun...

lol OP don't even sweat it, you most likely have better things to worry about

[edgedamage]

Hi,

My next door neighbor called the cops on me for "trespassing" because I kindly shoveled his driveway. .... it ended he didn't charge me or anything, saying that was to teach me a lesson not to trespass.

Here is my story:

my next door neighbor is a nice guy who is in his mid to late 60's but still strong, active and going to work. This morning around 6 am I woke up for a washroom break and couldn't get back to sleep so i went out to shovel the driveway, I finished early and decided to kindly help my neighbor with his driveway since he sometime helps my parents with the garden that separates our driveways. As I was about to finish around 7:40ish am, he was coming out with his snow machine, he said "WTF are you doing???!!! ... i am calling the cops on you" and left inside.

I did it to be kind and also I needed the exercise. I shoveled his driveways nice and clean without damaging his garden, where I piled the snow where he usually pile on his grass side. So about 45 mins ago the cops came and talked to me.

I hate life ... I am nice to others and I always get SH*T from most of the people I try to be nice to. Like another time is I opened the door and held it for others and get no thank you ... when i say your welcome to them .. they just say ... "yeah yeah whatever" and a few times i got a thanks
Sounds like the old guy bought a new snow blower and wanted to play with it. How dare you ruin his fun.

[Tinted]

charged with a record? I dont think you can get a record for a trespassing charge. Is that even a criminal offence?

let it go man, it's not worth stressing over. world is full of idiots, your neighbour happend to be one of them.

[Kasakato]

charged with a record? I dont think you can get a record for a trespassing charge. Is that even a criminal offence?

let it go man, it's not worth stressing over. world is full of idiots, your neighbour happend to be one of them.

Quasi-criminal, its a provincial offense.

[tng11]

I have an idea:

When you receive a package from X delivery company or Canada Post, don't open it. When he's at work, leave it on his front door step like some postman/courier left it there for delivery. When he realizes it's yours, he'll bring it over to your front door. When you open the door, accuse him of trespassing and call the cops on him. Then he will know what it feels like to be a "good guy" and have the cops called on him for it. That should really stick it to him.

Seriously, this guy's a total jack***... but never let it discourage you from helping other people. If I do good things for other people, I never expect anything in return. The only thing I get is the satisfaction that I helped someone and that's all that matters.

My worst case was I found a phone on the TTC and I called the person's home phone number from it to tell them I found it, and I would personally deliver it to them. Before I was even finished my sentence he started to threaten me and accusing me of stealing his phone. I dumped it off at the lost and found and that was the end of it.

[espeed]

OP don't sweat it
Just remember that in the GTA, lots of people are generally grumpy and stressed out all the time.

You can tell by the long faces in the downtown area and also the road rage

[al3x89]

Next time shovel your driveway ON to his driveway....just be sure not to set foot on it.

That's still trespassing though lol.

Putting something on someone elses property without removing it is considered trespassing.

[Kasakato]

I have an idea:

When you receive a package from X delivery company or Canada Post, don't open it. When he's at work, leave it on his front door step like some postman/courier left it there for delivery. When he realizes it's yours, he'll bring it over to your front door. When you open the door, accuse him of trespassing and call the cops on him. Then he will know what it feels like to be a "good guy" and have the cops called on him for it. That should really stick it to him.



The Trespass to Property act lists that as an exception. If the person is taking a conventional route to your front door, for legal purposes, trespassing is not possible. This is why door-to-door sales people are not trespassing.

[wiggy]

Just your bad luck to live beside a miserable old pr*ck.

I do my neighbours drive and walk all the time. They're older folks and frankly need the help - especially in a winter like last year's. They appreciate it and we often end up with a plate of Xmas goodies when she does her holiday baking which I think is a nice gesture.

Just be civil and don't let the old coot put you off being a good guy. World would be a whole lot better place if more people had that kind of positive attitude.

[radeonboy]

While I'll say to you please don't stop helping....

Again there are wackos everywhere.

[Emancipated]

You're a broadening young buck and dong this good deed did more harm than good because ultimately we're all driven by our ego and that was stepped on when you decided to clear his driveway out of good intentions. Old people do not like to be reminded that they're old; they get that every morning they look in the mirror. Some people handle it better than others. To put another dimension to it, it also comes off as a nosey, busy body. The gesture is commendable but it's sometimes not welcomed by some types of personality that really like to do things for themselves -- young or old.

Try to explain it him next time you see him because ignoring something like this could manifest into something more grave and encroach on the relationship between your neighbor and your parents.

[eightyeight]

My worst case was I found a phone on the TTC and I called the person's home phone number from it to tell them I found it, and I would personally deliver it to them. Before I was even finished my sentence he started to threaten me and accusing me of stealing his phone. I dumped it off at the lost and found and that was the end of it.

I would have taken out the SIM card and resold it.
Or, if it was a built in SIM... Smashy smashy :D

[johnboy]

I have an idea:

When you receive a package from X delivery company or Canada Post, don't open it. When he's at work, leave it on his front door step like some postman/courier left it there for delivery. When he realizes it's yours, he'll bring it over to your front door. When you open the door, accuse him of trespassing and call the cops on him. Then he will know what it feels like to be a "good guy" and have the cops called on him for it. That should really stick it to him.

Seriously, this guy's a total jack***... but never let it discourage you from helping other people. If I do good things for other people, I never expect anything in return. The only thing I get is the satisfaction that I helped someone and that's all that matters.

My worst case was I found a phone on the TTC and I called the person's home phone number from it to tell them I found it, and I would personally deliver it to them. Before I was even finished my sentence he started to threaten me and accusing me of stealing his phone. I dumped it off at the lost and found and that was the end of it.


WTF? Was there any misunderstanding? I mean, did the person speak English well? You were still nice (dumping at lost and found). After that, I would have just tossed it in the trash or made it my cell phone if it was any good and made sure they understood that. LOL!

[Brandon]

I've noticed... Americans are so much more friendly than Canadians.

I don't know if they're being friendly or what they mean by it, but when I went to Syracuse last, I noticed that whenever doing something nice (holding the door open, saying excuse me to pass, etc) for something, I'd get the response of "mmmm HHhhmm"...

I thought that was weird.

And back on topic, when I lived at home with my parents, I'd help shovel my neighbour's (elderly couple) driveway. I didn't shovel the whole thing as they don't have a car, but I shoveled a wide path from their front door to the end of their driveway. They always appreciated it.

[Stock R]

My neighbour helped me shovel the huge mound at the end of my driveway made by the snowplow yesterday. I went out to shovel (by hand) and found the end 3-4ft already done (he has a snowblower). I'm very appreciative for his help. I'm getting him a Christmas present.

[etherfast]

I was hoping he would help us with our driveway on a day like today with this condition outside and heavy snow if I help him one time with his driveway because he has a snowplower and we have our manual shovel.

[deltone]

I was hoping he would help us with our driveway on a day like today with this condition outside and heavy snow if I help him one time with his driveway because he has a snowplower and we have our manual shovel.

I wouldn't count on it. LOL

[tng11]

WTF? Was there any misunderstanding? I mean, did the person speak English well? You were still nice (dumping at lost and found). After that, I would have just tossed it in the trash or made it my cell phone if it was any good and made sure they understood that. LOL!

Yeah, the guy was a total prick... it was a Blackberry 8820 and the guy's English sounded good. I was willing to deliver it to him personally since the phone was worth a few hundred at the time. Never even thought about keeping it for myself as I know what it feels like to have a phone lost/stolen.

People did return my cellphones when I lost them so I felt like it was duty to return the favour, won't stop me from doing it either.

I'd like to find that guy who took my iPhone last month and do something nasty to him though.

[johnboy]

Yeah, the guy was a total prick... it was a Blackberry 8820 and the guy's English sounded good. I was willing to deliver it to him personally since the phone was worth a few hundred at the time. Never even thought about keeping it for myself as I know what it feels like to have a phone lost/stolen.

People did return my cellphones when I lost them so I felt like it was duty to return the favour, won't stop me from doing it either.

I'd like to find that guy who took my iPhone last month and do something nasty to him though.

Thanks for the update. The guy is an idiot but definitely, as you said, don't stop the good deeds.

Ever since I bought my big snowblower, I've been helping my neighbours (only the two that are directly next door to me) clear their EOD. One has a single stage that can't handle it, the other one has a contractor. I haven't gotten any gifts from them yet but oh well. I'll do only their EODs requested or not if it's a big dump, something like today. But I refuse to do others and so far no one else has asked. LOL!

BTW, to the OP - your neighbour is an idiot too. Who in their right state of mind would get pissed off and call the cops. If someone were to clear my driveway, feel free to do it, eventhough I have a kick ass snowblower.

[gflux]

I hope this doesn't stop the OP from being a helpful person. We need more people like him and less like his neighbour.

[162]

Well, if that don't pi$$ you off, then here's my story...

I live on a lake. My kids and all their friends love to play hockey - so its a natural that I put a rink on the lake every year. I invite all the people in the neighbourhood to freely use the rink - only that theyhelp shovel from time to time.

Last year we have a fair bit of snow, so the snowbanks on my rink were fairly high (probably 18-20" above ice level). Well, don't I get a visit one night from the Regional Police to advise my that I have to take down the snow banks on my rink because they received complaints from snowmobilers that the rink is a danger to them. The cop actually showed up, took pictures and measurements and told me that I could be criminally negligent if a snowmobiler hit the snow banks.

Now, the lake is frozen from shore to shore, and is plenty wide for about 100 rinks and still room for snowmobilers. Why they would have to travel within 100' of the shoreline - or why they are allowed to travel that close at speeds in excess of 100MPH (seriously!) is amazing. The cop actually told me that there's no speed limit on the lake and that the snowmobilers can go wherever they want.

So - you can drive 100MPH with kids around, but don't have a rink! If I could stand Don Cherry, I would have called him on this one!

To the OP...

I'd honestly call the police or the ombudsman and file a complaint that they are wasting our tax dollars. And if your neighbour ever needs help - help him. It'll probably piss him off more if you help than if you walk away. Some people just want a reason to be angry.

Maxman

If that lakebed is crown-owned then thats a load of crap! other than being courteous and putting up markers on all 4 corners skate on. I would have asked for proof of legislation.

[ZenOps]

Yup, you probably made him feel old...

That and/or he might have had a new snowblower that he was just itching to try out.

I once said "Thanks Ma'am" to a 30+ year old woman who did a small favor for me. Wow - she totally blew a gut and got angrier than I've ever seen a woman "What did you just call me, I'm not that old!"

Every time I see her now its "Thanks babe". Seems to work out well.

[yao416]

I hate my neighbour because they always play loud music all day long but
I just finished shoveling their sidewalk, no cops were called.
Thank god

I have a question....is there a law about loud music being played? every morning they play music at 7AM, and as matter of fact, their playing music right now :|

Like I don't mind music being played but their subwoofer is shaking my wall :(

[watching]

I hate my neighbour because they always play loud music all day long but
I just finished shoveling their sidewalk, no cops were called.
Thank god

I have a question....is there a law about loud music being played? every morning they play music at 7AM, and as matter of fact, their playing music right now :|

Like I don't mind music being played but their subwoofer is shaking my wall :(

Are you in an apartment or house?

Which province or municipality are you in?

Bylaws differ, hence the questions.

[yao416]

Are you in an apartment or house?

Which province or municipality are you in?

Bylaws differ, hence the questions.

House (next door neighbour)

Toronto

help :(

[watching]

House (next door neighbour)

Toronto

help :(

http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/bylaws/2003/law0111.pdf

Prohibitions by Time and Place

The operation of any electronic device or a group of connected electronic devices incorporating one or more loudspeakers or other electro-mechanical transducers, and intended for the production, reproduction or amplification of sound, other than a security alarm.
Prohibited period of time - at all times
See page 6 of above link

[yao416]

So if I do call the City, what will happen? I don't want me and our neighbour get messy.

[watching]

So if I do call the City, what will happen? I don't want me and our neighbour get messy.

Have you spoken to your neighbour about it? If not, I'd suggest you have a little chat with the neighbour, he might not realize his music can be heard in your place.

[yao416]

Have you spoken to your neighbour about it? If not, I'd suggest you have a little chat with the neighbour, he might not realize his music can be heard in your place.

No, I guess we should talk to them first then.

Thanks

Edit, If I do talk to them, and they don't care, and I call the City do I have a 100% case?

[watching]

No, I guess we should talk to them first then.

Thanks

Edit, If I do talk to them, and they don't care, and I call the City do I have a 100% case?

Hopefully after you have a talk with your neighbour, you won't have to call the bylaw office, but if you do a bylaw officer will be sent to have a chat with your neighbour about the noise.

[wiggy]

If that lakebed is crown-owned then thats a load of crap! other than being courteous and putting up markers on all 4 corners skate on. I would have asked for proof of legislation.

Crown land does not mean free for all, so lose the notion.

If you create a hazard somewhere, you're on the hook for it (that's how it is). I can see where the cops and snowmobilers are coming from. Most of the time not a big deal, but the skating rink guy got caught out by exceptional snowfall. If the snow was cleared away in such a manner that it didn't create a high (=dangerous) bank it would have been no big deal and life would go on as before. So just take the lesson from it, be aware, keep your banks low, and your stick on the ice. Simple.

[Tomato_1]

OP feel free to come to my house to shovel my snow..

Will be greatly appreciated and may even bake you some of that pre made cookie dough stuff. :lol:

[timmui]

Just let him be next time if he's asking for help inside his house while it's on fire...

You ain't wanna get charged with trespassing shxt with that guy's last breathe in the hospital

[watching]

You ain't wanna get charged with trespassing shxt with that guy's last breathe in the hospital

:confused: Repeat that in English please.

[AudiDude]

I hate my neighbour because they always play loud music all day long but
I just finished shoveling their sidewalk, no cops were called.
Thank god

I have a question....is there a law about loud music being played? every morning they play music at 7AM, and as matter of fact, their playing music right now :|

Like I don't mind music being played but their subwoofer is shaking my wall :(

The law applies to every kind of music but Trance, didn't you get the memo??
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[yao416]

The law applies to every kind of music but Trance, didn't you get the memo??
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Hopefully not :D

[Stock R]

I just shoveled my neighbours driveway. I hope they don't call the cops on me for:
1)Trespassing
2)Unnecessary noise (yes, I went out to shovel at 12am)

[Cheap Cat]

Please don't let this incident discourage you from doing a good deed. As a person with a disability, I struggle to shovel the snow and would appreciate the help from a neighbour. Since I appear to be healthy, I suspect most people think that I am just lazy. You can't imagine the frustration I face with this. I hate asking for help but do appreciate it.

I live in a condo townhouse complex and tonight I came home and my driveway had been cleared, (not fully but enough that I could drive in) by our snow plow driver. I was so unbelievably happy that I want to get him something in appreciation. He really made my day.

OP, unfortunately, you helped the wrong person. Next time shovel my driveway :D

[Sepiraph]

It's like the story of the teen girls in the US, who made cookies for their neighbour. They left them on the back door after knocking. The neighbour got scared and sued the girls (successfully) for emotional distress.

O_O That's fuk up.

[162]

Crown land does not mean free for all, so lose the notion.

If you create a hazard somewhere, you're on the hook for it (that's how it is). I can see where the cops and snowmobilers are coming from. Most of the time not a big deal, but the skating rink guy got caught out by exceptional snowfall. If the snow was cleared away in such a manner that it didn't create a high (=dangerous) bank it would have been no big deal and life would go on as before. So just take the lesson from it, be aware, keep your banks low, and your stick on the ice. Simple.

The ice isn't crown land - read the post. The only thing you would be on the hook for is a civil action. To have a cop tell you otherwise, I'd like to see the legislation.

[501]

i have stupid neighbours too our driveways are connected if we shoveled couple piles of snow over their side they start bitching ...every winter we at least have dozen arguments over snow.... but when spring comes were fine again....oh yea it's this really couple Oldddd couple.

[Rishi]

You should have told the cops who were stupid and ignorant enough to actually respond to this call to **** off. If you left as soon as you were told to and didn't climb a fence or ignore posted signs, no offense was committed under the Trespass to Property Act.

Don't allow scumbag cops to to feed off of ignorance of the law.

[AudiDude]

Then he piled sod that he removed on to the dirt pile in front of my house. A few days later he called the Town to complain about the dirt pile - part of which he created.

This same idiot put his house up for sale and went around the neighbourhood telling everyone that he was moving because the "subdivision was going downhill". Lo and behold I found out from the people that purchased his house that when they searched title as part of the closing of their home purchase that the arrogant d*ck was a few years behind in his property tax.

My neighbour offered his driveway for my new neighbour to place the bags of garbage the previous owners had left in the basement, so they could move their stuff in. They then called the town to complain about the garbage bags they left on the neighbours driveway. That was when we had the big snowstorm and Mayor Mel called in the Army.I had just gotten my new Toro, but after finding this out, you can bet I didn't dig them out. It was funny because my work van was on the street (killed reverse so I couldn't put it in the driveway and was on holidays for 4-5 days) and everytime the plow went by, it left 3 times as much snow at the end of their driveway. They had to shovel to get out and shovel to get in for the next three days!! So they got theirs.

It's like the story of the teen girls in the US, who made cookies for their neighbour. They left them on the back door after knocking. The neighbour got scared and sued the girls (successfully) for emotional distress.

This is unusual, in every pr0n I have seen, the girls are let in to show their cookies, and are dutifully rewarded...

[Kamloops]

I bet he just got his snowblower from a deal he got on RedFlag and was dying to try it out, you spoiled his fun.

[Nikita]

You should have told the cops who were stupid and ignorant enough to actually respond to this call to **** off. If you left as soon as you were told to and didn't climb a fence or ignore posted signs, no offense was committed under the Trespass to Property Act.

Don't allow scumbag cops to to feed off of ignorance of the law.

Yeah, telling the cops to FO for doing their job is really going to help matters...:rolleyes: They weren't stupid for responding to the call, they had to respond, that's their job. And they were likely as pissed as the OP for having to waste their time when they found out the story. The guy likely called and simply said someone was trespassing on his property, that he's elderly and alone...what do you expect the cops to do, ignore the call? What if there really was a trespasser, what if someone was planning on breaking in, what if they didn't respond and someone did break in? Then you'd be here posting that the cops were 'stupid and ignorant' to NOT respond and should get their a$$es fired and sued and w/e.

Hell, I'm probably one of the last ones here that anyone expects to defend cops, but give your head a shake, in reality they had no choice.

[luthair]

This is just me, but I would reciprocate, if you see him violating bylaws, call it in.

[wiggy]

The ice isn't crown land - read the post. The only thing you would be on the hook for is a civil action. To have a cop tell you otherwise, I'd like to see the legislation.

Its not about crown land. My problem with the opening comment is that too many folks really do think that crown land means free-for-all. I understand the ice isn't crown land (although there is common law about the rights of the crown on watercourses/lakes frozen or not).

Its about creating a hazard (doesn't matter where) where any reasonable person could foresee a problem. If I know there are snowmobilers using the ice and a reasonable person could foresee that unusually high snowbanks around a skating rink could cause a problem, you're potentially on the hook. Conversely, as a snowmobiler, if I know that there is a skating rink in the area that the local kids make regular use of, but I choose to ignore that and blow through the area regardless of that, I could be on the hook for injuring one of those kids. In law, everyone has a duty to act as a reasonable person. Not everybody does. That's why we have so many damned lawyers ...

[KorruptioN]

You should have told the cops who were stupid and ignorant enough to actually respond to this call to **** off. If you left as soon as you were told to and didn't climb a fence or ignore posted signs, no offense was committed under the Trespass to Property Act.

Don't allow scumbag cops to to feed off of ignorance of the law.

What a terrible post. All cops are stupid? All cops are ignorant? All cops are scumbags? What reason do you have to label all of them like you do?

:rolleyes:

[g0lden0rchard]

The old guy must be losing it.

[Kick_me]

Sucks about the old guy, totally overreacted there.

Hi,

I hate life ... I am nice to others and I always get SH*T from most of the people I try to be nice to. Like another time is I opened the door and held it for others and get no thank you ... when i say your welcome to them .. they just say ... "yeah yeah whatever" and a few times i got a thanks

I think you are bringing this on yourself. Are you trying to help people out because you want to be nice, or are you doing it to get thank yous? I'm guessing it might be a bit of both. If you say "your welcome" without somebody saying "thank you", it implies that you think they owe you a thank you. It makes the person you just said it to feel like a douche because they didn't thank you and makes you look like a douche because you expected a thank you and then tried to make them look bad when you didn't get it.

Of course, some people are going to be genuinely embarrassed and offer thanks, but others are going to react negatively if they think you are trying to rub their noses in it.

[darksith31]

Lol!

My mom saw the teenage girl from next door shovelling our sidewalk this morning and asked her why she was doing it?

I told her to shut up and not ask questions:lol:

What the hell's wrong with people? If someone started shoveling my driveway, I would go out and give them $20, and tell them that they're free to shovel whenever they want.

[162]

Its not about crown land. My problem with the opening comment is that too many folks really do think that crown land means free-for-all. I understand the ice isn't crown land (although there is common law about the rights of the crown on watercourses/lakes frozen or not).

Its about creating a hazard (doesn't matter where) where any reasonable person could foresee a problem. If I know there are snowmobilers using the ice and a reasonable person could foresee that unusually high snowbanks around a skating rink could cause a problem, you're potentially on the hook. Conversely, as a snowmobiler, if I know that there is a skating rink in the area that the local kids make regular use of, but I choose to ignore that and blow through the area regardless of that, I could be on the hook for injuring one of those kids. In law, everyone has a duty to act as a reasonable person. Not everybody does. That's why we have so many damned lawyers ...


I think you're getting it now. What you're discussing is civil matters and as I first posted cops don't enforce civil matters. Now if you intentionally with motive created a hazard to cause damage or injury upon another person well that would be criminal negligence which of course is legislated. This of course would apply to crown-owned lakebeds. Privately-owned lakebeds would be another matter which is why I questioned this in the first place.

[MickeyDs4life]

i guess now you know what to do next Halloween OP:evil:

[Nikita]

I think you're getting it now. What you're discussing is civil matters and as I first posted cops don't enforce civil matters. Now if you intentionally with motive created a hazard to cause damage or injury upon another person well that would be criminal negligence which of course is legislated. This of course would apply to crown-owned lakebeds. Privately-owned lakebeds would be another matter which is why I questioned this in the first place.

Not to be overly picky but if you did it intentionally and did cause injury, that's assault, pure and simple and depending on the facts could be aggravated assault or assaualt causing bodily harm. Criminal negligence doesn't require intent. It requires foreseeable consequences to your action and acting with reckless disregard for those foreseeable consequences. In other words, you may not have had any intent to injure someone, but if your actions could foreseeably cause injury and you disregarded that and proceeded to cause injury, then you are criminally negligent. And whether or not this is Crown land is irrelevant when it comes to Criminal Code offenses.

The level of culpability depends on the intent element.

[huangpu]

your neighbor irritates me!:mad:

[waldox]

old man sounds like a single virgin low baller, its not ur problem but his. no worries

[rpeatt]

I'm surprised so many people are believing this story is true!

I might have believed the first part, but what really gave it away was the police reaction.

Sorry, I have to call BS on this thread.

Seconded. Fake.

[zhewie]

Only one explanation for his behaviour: it's called Andropause.

[Nikita]

I'm surprised so many people are believing this story is true!

I might have believed the first part, but what really gave it away was the police reaction.

Sorry, I have to call BS on this thread.

I'm not surprised if the cops overreacted, but disappointed that they would go to the extent of putting the OP in the cruiser and that they would tell him with such certainty that he was trespassing (cuz that's only for a court to decide). I have no problem with the fact that they responded to the call (in fact, I would have had more of a problem had they ignored the call) but when they found out what it was all about, they could have been a little more reasonable about it and not make the OP feel like a criminal. But knowing cops as I do, I'm really not all that surprised that the OP unfortunately got a couple dink cops, others I'm sure would have handled it differently.

[RichieTheHammer]

Solution:

If he is single (widowed divorced etc)

Try to make friends with the old guy again.

Engage him in a conversation, when the opportunity arises during the conversation point up to a passing airliner making a comment like "HOLY CRAP, look at that thing hanging off the wing of that plane!!", when he looks up, whip it out and pee all over him.

If he's married, get together with his wife and teach her what she's forgotten about.

:twisted:

That'll teach the old bugger.
heh

[canadiantofu]

Better yet.. Steal his Gran Torino.

[Peckerwood]

Better yet.. Steal his Gran Torino.

With that kinda talk, you must feel lucky.

:lol:

http://usera.ImageCave.com/peckerwood/grantorino.jpg

[ShopSmart]

Hi,
I hate life ... I am nice to others and I always get SH*T from most of the people I try to be nice to. Like another time is I opened the door and held it for others and get no thank you ... when i say your welcome to them .. they just say ... "yeah yeah whatever" and a few times i got a thanks

I had someone do that really sarcastically "You're Welcome" and from my perspective, I found that it actually just showed that the other person was a jerk and not doing a good deed. If people are that ticked off that someone doesn't say thank you, and feel the need to be a jerk by trying to make the other person feel guilty/angry for something they didn't ask you to do, then why even bother holding the door open? If I hold a door open for someone, I'm not going to go out of my way to make the person feel bad. That's just jerkish behaviour.

I just don't understand people undoing the good karma of a good deed by harbouring on how ungrateful the other person was. Its like undoing your good deed altogether - actually worse. You generally do a deed to be helpful not because you expect something in return.

[thechampion116]

too bad OP. weird neighbor for sure.

My dad use to park on the street by the curb between our house and the neighbours. For 3 days my dad is getting tickets at night with no one else on the same street receiving tickets. So my dad sets walk by alarm in his car and overnight it goes off in the home. He goes outside the house to speak to the officer. The officer provides hints that the neighbour is the one calling him over.

We have no reason as to why he is calling the cops whatsoever. We aren't blocking his driveway, we aren't preventing garbage pickup. We haven't done anything to him.

Since then, I've just been rude to him. My dad no longer parks there and takes his chance somewhere else. My neighbour has used his snowblower to shovel part of my driveway also without asking and I refuse to thank him. he has even offered me a drive to the main street where I can get to the bus but I look at him and nod 'no' and don't say 'no thanks' or something nicer. I refuse to be nice to this guy who calls the cops for parking tickets. He's been nice to my whole family since those incidents but I think its because he feels guilty about it.

I also hate the people that never say thanks when you hold the door for them and for me, its usually been the males that avoid saying anything. Of course, I'll hold the door for a female if they close by or right behind. They always say thanks for some odd reason.

[Kasakato]

too bad OP. weird neighbor for sure.

My dad use to park on the street by the curb between our house and the neighbours. For 3 days my dad is getting tickets at night with no one else on the same street receiving tickets. So my dad sets walk by alarm in his car and overnight it goes off in the home. He goes outside the house to speak to the officer. The officer provides hints that the neighbour is the one calling him over.

We have no reason as to why he is calling the cops whatsoever. We aren't blocking his driveway, we aren't preventing garbage pickup. We haven't done anything to him.

Since then, I've just been rude to him. My dad no longer parks there and takes his chance somewhere else. My neighbour has used his snowblower to shovel part of my driveway also without asking and I refuse to thank him. he has even offered me a drive to the main street where I can get to the bus but I look at him and nod 'no' and don't say 'no thanks' or something nicer. I refuse to be nice to this guy who calls the cops for parking tickets. He's been nice to my whole family since those incidents but I think its because he feels guilty about it.

I also hate the people that never say thanks when you hold the door for them and for me, its usually been the males that avoid saying anything. Of course, I'll hold the door for a female if they close by or right behind. They always say thanks for some odd reason.
So you don't talk to your neighbor because he called parking enforcement when you were ILLEGALLY parking on the street?

[kleptodathief]

so wot did the p0p0s do? give u a ticket??? lulz

[kingrukus]

email him a staples $20 off $150.00 coupon code

[Shaner]

I had someone do that really sarcastically "You're Welcome" and from my perspective, I found that it actually just showed that the other person was a jerk and not doing a good deed. If people are that ticked off that someone doesn't say thank you, and feel the need to be a jerk by trying to make the other person feel guilty/angry for something they didn't ask you to do, then why even bother holding the door open? If I hold a door open for someone, I'm not going to go out of my way to make the person feel bad. That's just jerkish behaviour.

I just don't understand people undoing the good karma of a good deed by harbouring on how ungrateful the other person was. Its like undoing your good deed altogether - actually worse. You generally do a deed to be helpful not because you expect something in return.

Expecting a "thank you" or simply a smile is not expecting something back in return. I don't expect a tip or a pat on the back, but simply acknowledging that I helped them out, even though they didn't ask me to, is not expecting anything back in return.

If I hold a door open for someone and they don't even acknowledge that I did so (which seems to happen a lot in Toronto), I will sarcastically and loudly say "you're welcome" to that person. If they think I'm a jerk because of that, well that's just too bad. I want that person to realize that they are completely rude and they don't deserve to have the door held open for them.

I'm a type of person that will always hold a door open for others and where I live I always get a thank you in return, or at least some form of acknowledgment. I find whenever I'm in Toronto, they simply act like I did nothing for them. Torontonians are some of the rudest people I've ever come across and I lived in Toronto for half my life.

[ShadowVlican]

he'll be six feet under soon enough

[kingrukus]

Expecting a "thank you" or simply a smile is not expecting something back in return. I don't expect a tip or a pat on the back, but simply acknowledging that I helped them out, even though they didn't ask me to, is not expecting anything back in return.

If I hold a door open for someone and they don't even acknowledge that I did so (which seems to happen a lot in Toronto), I will sarcastically and loudly say "you're welcome" to that person. If they think I'm a jerk because of that, well that's just too bad. I want that person to realize that they are completely rude and they don't deserve to have the door held open for them.

I'm a type of person that will always hold a door open for others and where I live I always get a thank you in return, or at least some form of acknowledgment. I find whenever I'm in Toronto, they simply act like I did nothing for them. Torontonians are some of the rudest people I've ever come across and I lived in Toronto for half my life.
I feel the same way as you bud. I always hold the door open for most folks, and most of the time I will get a "thanks" or some sort of acknowledgement...it is just common courtesy. However every-so-often, I will also get the jerk that looks at me full in the face, walks right through and continues...those are the times I wish they would fall flat on their face as soon as they walk through.

[radeonboy]

too bad OP. weird neighbor for sure.

My dad use to park on the street by the curb between our house and the neighbours. For 3 days my dad is getting tickets at night with no one else on the same street receiving tickets. So my dad sets walk by alarm in his car and overnight it goes off in the home. He goes outside the house to speak to the officer. The officer provides hints that the neighbour is the one calling him over.

We have no reason as to why he is calling the cops whatsoever. We aren't blocking his driveway, we aren't preventing garbage pickup. We haven't done anything to him.

Since then, I've just been rude to him. My dad no longer parks there and takes his chance somewhere else. My neighbour has used his snowblower to shovel part of my driveway also without asking and I refuse to thank him. he has even offered me a drive to the main street where I can get to the bus but I look at him and nod 'no' and don't say 'no thanks' or something nicer. I refuse to be nice to this guy who calls the cops for parking tickets. He's been nice to my whole family since those incidents but I think its because he feels guilty about it.

I also hate the people that never say thanks when you hold the door for them and for me, its usually been the males that avoid saying anything. Of course, I'll hold the door for a female if they close by or right behind. They always say thanks for some odd reason.

I kinda have stupid neighbours too across from my house. We would park in front of our house which is kinda slightly directly in front of their driveway.

One day my uncle parks there, the stupid lady comes out and says "if I hit your car leaving, I ain't paying for it". And these people are known for their inability to drive (all of them in that house). Good luck with that, if you hit it, surely you're gonna pay for it.

[cheapmeister]

too bad OP. weird neighbor for sure.

My dad use to park on the street by the curb between our house and the neighbours. For 3 days my dad is getting tickets at night with no one else on the same street receiving tickets. So my dad sets walk by alarm in his car and overnight it goes off in the home. He goes outside the house to speak to the officer. The officer provides hints that the neighbour is the one calling him over.

We have no reason as to why he is calling the cops whatsoever. We aren't blocking his driveway, we aren't preventing garbage pickup. We haven't done anything to him.

Since then, I've just been rude to him. My dad no longer parks there and takes his chance somewhere else. My neighbour has used his snowblower to shovel part of my driveway also without asking and I refuse to thank him. he has even offered me a drive to the main street where I can get to the bus but I look at him and nod 'no' and don't say 'no thanks' or something nicer. I refuse to be nice to this guy who calls the cops for parking tickets. He's been nice to my whole family since those incidents but I think its because he feels guilty about it.

I also hate the people that never say thanks when you hold the door for them and for me, its usually been the males that avoid saying anything. Of course, I'll hold the door for a female if they close by or right behind. They always say thanks for some odd reason.

Perhaps your dads truck is old and ugly looking like an eye sore.

[cheapmeister]

The op's neighbour could be senile and was thinking that you will sue him when you fall down on his property. Maybe that happened to him in his past?

Some peeps in the T-dot are not normal.

[iluvmikeharris]

I kinda have stupid neighbours too across from my house. We would park in front of our house which is kinda slightly directly in front of their driveway.

One day my uncle parks there, the stupid lady comes out and says "if I hit your car leaving, I ain't paying for it". And these people are known for their inability to drive (all of them in that house). Good luck with that, if you hit it, surely you're gonna pay for it.

No, your auto insurance would pay for the property damage to your vehicle (Ontario). They certainly might "pay" through future premium surcharges though.