Lazy homeowners

[dealman5]

Why can't people shovel there steps and sidewalks for delivery personnel??

[TN_]

i think somebody took a little tumble :)

[CCCC3333]

They think that the army will come along and shovel the snow, but they are too stupid to realize that the army only shovels in Toronto.

[CSK'sMom]

'Cause they are stupid, self-centered idiots buried in their own little worlds. Gawd forbid they think about anyone other than themselves. Like those with little ones in strollers, the elderly, those with mobility issues, etc. :mad: Hell I can't walk my own nighborhood in the winter because of this very issue. :evil:

[JAC]

Often, a municipality will have a complaint line you can call if a neighbour hasn't shoveled after xx hours. The city will send a crew to clean the walk, and a bill to your neighbour.

[cheapmeister]

You need a pair of these-yaktrax. You'll never slip again.

http://www.theshoppingchannel.com/product/more+from/yaktrax+wintertrax+multi-pak+294401.do?&N=100094&Ns=P_DATE_CREATED

[mlc2000]

perhaps they have an injury which prevents them from shovelling?

[deuce]

because im lazy.

[laptop-tech]

dump some hot water over the snow to melt it.....

[dealman5]

perhaps they have an injury which prevents them from shovelling?

Well I guess that person will be picking up there mail at the local post office.

[dealman5]

THE best Christmas present Canada Post letter carrier Les Daniels could get this year is for residents to shovel and salt their walkways.
"I wouldn't mind a Cadillac, but that would be out of the question," said Daniels when asked about his Christmas wish list. "The best thing is to move the mailbox down so we don't have to go up the stairs, or salt the stairs."

Daniels needed shoulder surgery after slipping on ice four years ago.

In Winnipeg, 65 letter carriers were injured last year after slipping on unshovelled walkways. That resulted in 1,030 days lost from work. Manitoba Hydro Utility Services employees also lost 188 days of work last winter as a result of slip, trip and fall injuries.

To help prevent more injuries, Canada Post teamed up with local businesses for a contest called Clear the Way and Win.

"The goal of the program is to prevent injuries, especially in a climate like ours," said Kathi Neal, Canada Post spokeswoman. "We have an awful lot of snow here. Clearing your driveways and pathways to mail boxes, you can save people from the heartbreaking injuries happening."

Daniels was off work for six weeks recovering from the surgery to repair a torn rotator cuff, he said.

"It had just snowed the night before and I went up on one side of the steps and went down the other side," Daniels said. "There was ice under there and I didn't see the ice. I stepped and went flying."

Newspaper distributors also have a hard time during the winter months. Dean Lytle, director of audience develop for the Free Press, addressed the dangers of newspaper distributors Thursday during a press conference launching the contest.

"We have 1,400 newspaper distributors that deliver 365 days a year, almost 1 million footsteps on your doorstep every year," Lytle said. "Let's make sure we take care of those 1 million footsteps."

The contest runs six weeks, with a $200 Home Depot gift certificate given away each week. The grand prize will be given away in week six -- a nine horsepower snowblower.

To win, a pledge form must be signed by homeowners, promising to keep their pathways clear of ice and snow. If they win, they have to prove they followed through on that promise.

Ballots can be found at www.winnipegfreepress.com, in the newspaper and at Home Depot locations.

[akbar_k]

THE best Christmas present Canada Post letter carrier Les Daniels could get this year is for residents to shovel and salt their walkways.
"I wouldn't mind a Cadillac, but that would be out of the question," said Daniels when asked about his Christmas wish list. "The best thing is to move the mailbox down so we don't have to go up the stairs, or salt the stairs."

Daniels needed shoulder surgery after slipping on ice four years ago.

In Winnipeg, 65 letter carriers were injured last year after slipping on unshovelled walkways. That resulted in 1,030 days lost from work. Manitoba Hydro Utility Services employees also lost 188 days of work last winter as a result of slip, trip and fall injuries.

To help prevent more injuries, Canada Post teamed up with local businesses for a contest called Clear the Way and Win.

"The goal of the program is to prevent injuries, especially in a climate like ours," said Kathi Neal, Canada Post spokeswoman. "We have an awful lot of snow here. Clearing your driveways and pathways to mail boxes, you can save people from the heartbreaking injuries happening."

Daniels was off work for six weeks recovering from the surgery to repair a torn rotator cuff, he said.

"It had just snowed the night before and I went up on one side of the steps and went down the other side," Daniels said. "There was ice under there and I didn't see the ice. I stepped and went flying."

Newspaper distributors also have a hard time during the winter months. Dean Lytle, director of audience develop for the Free Press, addressed the dangers of newspaper distributors Thursday during a press conference launching the contest.

"We have 1,400 newspaper distributors that deliver 365 days a year, almost 1 million footsteps on your doorstep every year," Lytle said. "Let's make sure we take care of those 1 million footsteps."

The contest runs six weeks, with a $200 Home Depot gift certificate given away each week. The grand prize will be given away in week six -- a nine horsepower snowblower.

To win, a pledge form must be signed by homeowners, promising to keep their pathways clear of ice and snow. If they win, they have to prove they followed through on that promise.

Ballots can be found at www.winnipegfreepress.com, in the newspaper and at Home Depot locations.

And then people wonder why labor strikes. It's easy to be righteous when you're warm and cozy in a McMansion or at the office.

Only with a tightly bound community can we create the Great Society.

[jumbojones]

Letter mail should be obsolete soon anyways, all I ever get is bills and junk mail. As for the bills you can get rid of paper ones through epost now, and the junk mail, who needs it!

This isn't really an issue in my neighborhood seeing everyone has to pick up their own mail from a central mailbox hub.

While it would be nice to clear the sidewalks off at 7am in the morning for those who need them but unfortunately it can't be done for some. That is why you have 24hrs from the end of a snow fall to remove it.

Me personally I'm not going to take my one year old outside at 7am so I can shovel, neither will I leave him in the house alone while I do it. I'll shovel it when I can get to it, not really a priority compared to the care of my child, sorry.

Everyone has aspects of their jobs that they don't like, take the good with the bad or find a new job.

[mmhassa2]

'Cause they are stupid, self-centered idiots buried in their own little worlds. Gawd forbid they think about anyone other than themselves. Like those with little ones in strollers, the elderly, those with mobility issues, etc. :mad: Hell I can't walk my own nighborhood in the winter because of this very issue. :evil:

There's about 4 houses on the other side of our house who has sidewalks and they never seem to shovel....and whats even worse is when the snow melts and becomes ice:mad: Seriously how long doesnt it REALLY take to atleast throw some salt over? Anyone know where I can complain in Durham region?

[Ebola]

Letter mail should be obsolete soon anyways, all I ever get is bills and junk mail. As for the bills you can get rid of paper ones through epost now, and the junk mail, who needs it!

Everyone has aspects of their jobs that they don't like, take the good with the bad or find a new job.

So noone should bother trying to protect their health and safety while on the job? You must work in an office.

[brunes]

I am quite sure it is in the postal union contract that they *DO NOT* have to deliver mail to you if your walkway is not shoveled.

I know in at least one instance my mailman did not deliver my mail because I hadn't shoveled yet when he arrived (was a real downpour). I don't blame him at all, and I wasn't upset, I doubt he was too upset either, he just didn't deliver it.

IMO letter carries should just exercise these rights and not do the delivery to these people. I don't see why anyone needs to make a big deal about it - don't shovel, don't get your mail, finally shovel, get it tomorrow. It is not that big a deal, either for the carrier or the home owner. if you want your mail in a timely fashion, then shovel your walk, simple as that.

[akbar_k]

I am quite sure it is in the postal union contract that they *DO NOT* have to deliver mail to you if your walkway is not shoveled.

I know in at least one instance my mailman did not deliver my mail because I hadn't shoveled yet when he arrived (was a real downpour). I don't blame him at all, and I wasn't upset, I doubt he was too upset either, he just didn't deliver it.

IMO letter carries should just exercise these rights and not do the delivery to these people. I don't see why anyone needs to make a big deal about it - don't shovel, don't get your mail, finally shovel, get it tomorrow. It is not that big a deal, either for the carrier or the home owner. if you want your mail in a timely fashion, then shovel your walk, simple as that.

Thank you for that sensible and metered post.

[CSK'sMom]

Letter mail should be obsolete soon anyways, all I ever get is bills and junk mail. As for the bills you can get rid of paper ones through epost now, and the junk mail, who needs it!

This isn't really an issue in my neighborhood seeing everyone has to pick up their own mail from a central mailbox hub.

You're kidding right? And just how do you expect people to actually get to that super mailbox if sidewalks aren't shovelled?

While it would be nice to clear the sidewalks off at 7am in the morning for those who need them but unfortunately it can't be done for some. That is why you have 24hrs from the end of a snow fall to remove it.

Me personally I'm not going to take my one year old outside at 7am so I can shovel, neither will I leave him in the house alone while I do it. I'll shovel it when I can get to it, not really a priority compared to the care of my child, sorry.

Everyone has aspects of their jobs that they don't like, take the good with the bad or find a new job.

Just remember that you posted this self-centered opinion if you ever need an emergency service at your home. Just remember that it may take a paramedic an extra 5 or 10 minutes to get into your home because he has to shovel his way in before he can get to your 1 year old and administer care. Hope you still feel the way you do in this post if the worst happens in your home. Just forget about the other folks in this world that have no choice but to walk or have mobility issues. Forget the elderly who may fall and break a hip on your sidewalk and now have to move into a nursing home. Forget about the poor, young mom who just wants to take her child to the park to play in the snow... Yep just forget them all and concentrate on your own little self-absorbed world and we will all be better off... :rolleyes:

[stealth]

And then people wonder why labor strikes. It's easy to be righteous when you're warm and cozy in a McMansion or at the office.

Only with a tightly bound community can we create the Great Society.

Easy there, Marx.

Striking isnt the answer, but I wouldnt expect a letter carrier to put themselves in harms way.
To be honest, I'm always surprised when we get mail during bad weather. I dont think they should be out at all. Just about anything can wait a day or so.
Similarly, dont expect people to be out shovelling within an hr of a snow storm either. Anything within say 18 hrs seems fair to me.

Sheesh, everyones so uptight around here. People need to take a breather and relax more

[pipolchap]

Buy a house without a sidewalk. :)

All kidding aside, shoveling when the snow is fresh is much easier than when its been trampled or laying around for a day. I'm one of the weird ones that enjoy shoveling at 6am when the 'hood is nice and quiet.

Then I rip the cord and run the obnoxious engine of my snow blower to give the neighbors a friendly warning that it has snowed overnight, get your a$$ out of bed!!!

Ahhhh, Canada...

[ruhroh]

Just remember that you posted this self-centered opinion if you ever need an emergency service at your home. Just remember that it may take a paramedic an extra 5 or 10 minutes to get into your home because he has to shovel his way in before he can get to your 1 year old and administer care. Hope you still feel the way you do in this post if the worst happens in your home. Just forget about the other folks in this world that have no choice but to walk or have mobility issues. Forget the elderly who may fall and break a hip on your sidewalk and now have to move into a nursing home. Forget about the poor, young mom who just wants to take her child to the park to play in the snow... Yep just forget them all and concentrate on your own little self-absorbed world and we will all be better off... :rolleyes:

Wow a very diverse group of people walk on your sidewalk at 7am :lol:

Then I rip the cord and run the obnoxious engine of my snow blower to give the neighbors a friendly warning that it has snowed overnight, get your a$$ out of bed!!!

Ahhhh, Canada...

So you're the guy who ruins my post exam vacation!! Some day I will sneak into your house and get rid of the spark plug :D

[CSK'sMom]

Wow a very diverse group of people walk on your sidewalk at 7am :lol:


Uhh Yea. I live in a neighborhood just like anyone else that is a mix of different folks on different shifts from all walks of and stages of life. ;)

[adeel]

Buy a house without a sidewalk. :)



Good advice for lazy folks.

I also definitely agree that snow should be shovelled as soon after its fallen as you can manage. Its so much easier. When I'm expecting big snowfalls, i normally make a couple of trips so that its easier to shovel all the snow.


Ahh...to live in a condo again...(where snow shovelling and lawn moving is a common item that we pay someone else to do).

[ruhroh]

Uhh Yea. I live in a neighborhood just like anyone else that is a mix of different folks on different shifts from all walks of and stages of life. ;)

But all of those people show up at 7am every day? That's amazing...

[CSK'sMom]

But all of those people show up at 7am every day? That's amazing...

Why is it so amazing to you that people would be out and about at 7am. In your world does the world not start till 9am or later? No one is allowed to leave their home till 5pm? We have school kids out for their buses at 6:45am, college classes starting at 8am, shiftworkers coming home from overnight shifts or leaving for day shifts, etc.

[ruhroh]

Why is it so amazing to you that people would be out and about at 7am. In your world does the world not start till 9am or later? No one is allowed to leave their home till 5pm? We have school kids out for their buses at 6:45am, college classes starting at 8am, shiftworkers coming home from overnight shifts or leaving for day shifts, etc.

Lol I was just joshing ya, no need to get all wound up :razz:

[airmail]

[QUOTE=brunes;7900673]I am quite sure it is in the postal union contract that they *DO NOT* have to deliver mail to you if your walkway is not shoveled.

Canada Post supports any unsafe conditions to cut off the mail. Such as dogs, bee hives, ice, snow and many more.

If people want there xmas mail I suggest they shovel the snow, if not they wont be getting there letter from Santa. And shovel your steps too.. Please

[elnady]

Just remember that you posted this self-centered opinion if you ever need an emergency service at your home. Just remember that it may take a paramedic an extra 5 or 10 minutes to get into your home because he has to shovel his way in before he can get to your 1 year old and administer care. Hope you still feel the way you do in this post if the worst happens in your home. Just forget about the other folks in this world that have no choice but to walk or have mobility issues. Forget the elderly who may fall and break a hip on your sidewalk and now have to move into a nursing home. Forget about the poor, young mom who just wants to take her child to the park to play in the snow... Yep just forget them all and concentrate on your own little self-absorbed world and we will all be better off... :rolleyes:


Wery well put... I go agree with you 100%... I have few houses on my street that never shovel till the sidewalk become pure ice!! I walk my dog at 5AM everyday and it's not the safest thing in the world to walk on the road till you bypass those sidewalks... Last year I started putting de-icer on these houses sidewalk early in the evening. I remember one dude coming out asking what I'm doing! the answer was "de-icing your sidewalk since you poor and cant afford salt!".

Stupid Mississauga, they don't have by-laws to force homeowners to shovel thier sidewalks!And our useless consulter Mrs. Pat pretty much said “sorry nothing we can do”,

[dealman5]

EDMONTON, Alberta, Jan. 27 (UPI) -- An Edmonton man returning to Canada was
arrested at the airport for failing to shovel his sidewalk while he was gone,
the Globe and Mail reported.
Zafir Rashid was informed of the warrant for his arrest by Canada Customs
officers at Calgary International Airport when he arrived Tuesday.
"I thought they were joking," Rashid said. He was placed in a detention cell to
wait for Calgary police to pick him up, and told the newspaper he convinced
customs he didn't merit handcuffs or a strip search.
Because he had been out of the country for three months, he was unaware of the
warning mailed to his home, saying he had 48 hours to remove all snow and ice
from his sidewalk. He also hadn't seen the citation mailed to him, meaning an
arrest warrant was generated.
Rashid spent all day Wednesday sorting out the legal mess, and paid the $85
fine.

[Evil Baby]

For the people in my neighborhood that are too lazy to shovel, I'm too lazy to pick up my dogs feces.

[Krox]

You're kidding right? And just how do you expect people to actually get to that super mailbox if sidewalks aren't shovelled?



Just remember that you posted this self-centered opinion if you ever need an emergency service at your home. Just remember that it may take a paramedic an extra 5 or 10 minutes to get into your home because he has to shovel his way in before he can get to your 1 year old and administer care. Hope you still feel the way you do in this post if the worst happens in your home. Just forget about the other folks in this world that have no choice but to walk or have mobility issues. Forget the elderly who may fall and break a hip on your sidewalk and now have to move into a nursing home. Forget about the poor, young mom who just wants to take her child to the park to play in the snow... Yep just forget them all and concentrate on your own little self-absorbed world and we will all be better off... :rolleyes:


I remember a thread (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=562008) earlier this year when you stated you would get livid if anybody used a snow blower early in the morning and it woke you up. So basically, you want the snow removed QUIETLY by 7am. I guess those same elderly people should risk a heart attack shoveling snow instead of using the snow blower they bought.

[jstaneon]

Why can't people shovel there steps and sidewalks for delivery personnel??

why do you always damage my shipment? :lol:

[CSK'sMom]

I remember a thread (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=562008) earlier this year when you stated you would get livid if anybody used a snow blower early in the morning and it woke you up. So basically, you want the snow removed QUIETLY by 7am. I guess those same elderly people should risk a heart attack shoveling snow instead of using the snow blower they bought.

In our neighborhood most would probably be livid about a snowblower at 5am. 7 is fair game around here generally depending on what shift everyone is on. We all know each other and each other's shift's and respect those shifts. Heck I am sure some of my neighbors would be livid is hubby shovelled or snowblowed according to his schedule, he's up and out the door at 2am. ;) Would he ever consider doing that, no way in hell because we have respect for each other's shifts. My beef is people who don't shovel or snow blow at all! It's ignorant IMO to not consider people that really need to walk on public sidewalks. But then again those types of folks are the very first to scream blue murder when an ambulance, police, fire truck can't get down their street (due to not being plowed due to parked cars) and EMS, etc. can't get to their door because they aren't shovelled out.

[airmail]

why do you always damage my shipment? :lol:

Try packing it properly...

[ruhroh]

My beef is people who don't shovel or snow blow at all! It's ignorant IMO to not consider people that really need to walk on public sidewalks. But then again those types of folks are the very first to scream blue murder when an ambulance, police, fire truck can't get down their street (due to not being plowed due to parked cars) and EMS, etc. can't get to their door because they aren't shovelled out.

You were pretty mad at someone who said they'd shovel when they got around to it, too, not just people who don't shovel at all.

While it would be nice to clear the sidewalks off at 7am in the morning for those who need them but unfortunately it can't be done for some. That is why you have 24hrs from the end of a snow fall to remove it.

Me personally I'm not going to take my one year old outside at 7am so I can shovel, neither will I leave him in the house alone while I do it. I'll shovel it when I can get to it, not really a priority compared to the care of my child, sorry.

Everyone has aspects of their jobs that they don't like, take the good with the bad or find a new job.

You're kidding right? And just how do you expect people to actually get to that super mailbox if sidewalks aren't shovelled?



Just remember that you posted this self-centered opinion if you ever need an emergency service at your home. Just remember that it may take a paramedic an extra 5 or 10 minutes to get into your home because he has to shovel his way in before he can get to your 1 year old and administer care. Hope you still feel the way you do in this post if the worst happens in your home. Just forget about the other folks in this world that have no choice but to walk or have mobility issues. Forget the elderly who may fall and break a hip on your sidewalk and now have to move into a nursing home. Forget about the poor, young mom who just wants to take her child to the park to play in the snow... Yep just forget them all and concentrate on your own little self-absorbed world and we will all be better off... :rolleyes:

[brunes]

Personally I question what is arriving in the mail of such utmost importance that it be delivered TODAY, but not of importance enough for you to bother clearing your sidewalk.

Frankly if the thing was important then it shouldn't be sent in the regular mail ANYWAY!

[gman]

I don't shovel my sidewalk because I don't have one. :lol:

However, if I have one, I would do it as soon as I am at home. I am lazy for almost everything but not shoveling snow and mowing the lawn. Shoveling snow is what I am looking forward to do every winter. I hope there will be really 10cm here overnight as the weather says. I need a bigger one to ease my thirst. :D

[jstaneon]

Try packing it properly...

I do. maybe try not to throw things around that say fragile on them. Its not for decoration.

[jumbojones]

You were pretty mad at someone who said they'd shovel when they got around to it, too, not just people who don't shovel at all.Really, we all can't live by your clock there CKSMom. 5am too early, 7am fine? What are you mental? Living in the Falls you should know some have to commute to TO, so people have to do things when they get the time.

As for emergency vehicles not making it to my house because I didn't shovel a 5ft stretch of sidewalk, get a life. If anything is going to delay them is the fact it takes 3 days for the city to plow my street.

Sounds like someone needs a midol.

[jumbojones]

So noone should bother trying to protect their health and safety while on the job?Protecting their safety by posting on RFD? Nice, I'm sure the OP people in question are reading this too.:rolleyes:

How about placing a note on their door or in their mailbox?

You must work in an office.Oh yes the holy grail, an office, there are many things that office people have to deal with too. How about stupid delivery people? Maybe we should start a thread about them. God knows how many times I've gotten the wrong package delivered to me, or how about those that can't read the sign "DELIVERIES GO TO THE BACK"? Or is it they are just too lazy to read it? Or is it they're too lazy to walk back there?

[dgmorr]

You were pretty mad at someone who said they'd shovel when they got around to it, too, not just people who don't shovel at all.

If it's not done when she needs the sidewalk it is inconsiderate. People who don't do things the Burger King way are inconsiderate apparently....[/sarcasm]

PS - I shoveled the sidewalk and a path for my tires to get out this morning, hope that will make you people happy.

[Shimso]

What's ironic is that the same people who never shovel their sidewalks are usually the same ones who take the hose to wash it down in the summer, even hours before its about to rain.

[poedua]

While it would be nice to clear the sidewalks off at 7am in the morning for those who need them but unfortunately it can't be done for some. That is why you have 24hrs from the end of a snow fall to remove it.

Me personally I'm not going to take my one year old outside at 7am so I can shovel, neither will I leave him in the house alone while I do it. I'll shovel it when I can get to it, not really a priority compared to the care of my child, sorry.

Everyone has aspects of their jobs that they don't like, take the good with the bad or find a new job.

+1

So long as you shovel within the 24 hour period, then that's quite a reasonable expectation IMO.

In fact, our town gives itself 24 hours to clean all roadways

Anyone who is whining and complaining that the shoveling has to be be done by 7 a.m. or so is simply being petty IMO.

[poedua]

If it's not done when she needs the sidewalk it is inconsiderate.

People who don't do things the Burger King way are inconsiderate apparently....[/sarcasm]

PS - I shoveled the sidewalk and a path for my tires to get out this morning, hope that will make you people happy.

Which is nonsense of course.

[Riffer]

Why can't people shovel there steps and sidewalks for delivery personnel??

I agree - I have a Fedex parcel coming today, so I will be going out soon to start shovelling!

[cabbageroll]

http://canadapost.ca/cleartheway2Has everyone received there shovelling flyer in the mail from Canada Post???

[Evil Baby]

http://canadapost.ca/cleartheway2Has everyone received there shovelling flyer in the mail from Canada Post???

have not gotten that flyer yet. I still have to pick up some ice. I've had a good chat with my mail man whenever I see him. He likes to play with my dog. Nice guy. Just the other day he fail down my neighbors steps