I May/May Not Have Been Scammed...Anyways

[Aznsilvrboy]

So a while back I received a call (no idea how they got my cellphone #) from some organization called Yongsheng Electronics: www.hensong.com

whose female rep asked me to do a over-the-phone survey to which i agreed. After the survey she said by completing the survey I've been awarded free entrance to their charity dinner event, i was at school at the time so i just said ok and brushed her off. A week ago one of their people called me while live at the dinner event and told me that I've won something and how come I didnt go. I replied that I was studying for exams and hung up.

This morning I received another call asking whether I'm aware of the fact that I had won $150k USD and why hand't I picked up my prize. I said I had no idea I had won and i didn't go to the event. But I was interested (and stupid?)...and I gave them my bank account/transit/branch # + my driver license # because they said they needed to verify that i'm really me (they're in hong kong btw). They said they need to get an lawyer to confirm my identity in HK court and an account to do the papers or something, and I need to pay $3100 ($100 lawyer/account fees non-refundable) to pay for the legal procedures, and after it's all verified i get $3000 (they claim i'm required to pay 2% deposit according to some Hong Kong anti scam/money-laundering law or something) back. They said I also need to do the same thing (or something) here in Canada. The guy talked about Western Union and some other jibberish.

I told my mom and dad, and to no one's surprise, they bsed at me for falling for the trap. Anyways, I've withdrew all of my cash from the account and asked the rep to disallow any withdraws from my account unless I come in and do it personally.

I plan to close my account and open a new one in addition to getting a new driver license # issued (my current one did not expire). Does anyone know if I'm able to do that (getting new driver license)?

If you're interested, you can go here and see the "scam" for yourself:
http://hensong.com/dz.asp
username: 698968
pw: 8968
My name is one of the three listed beside the third prize. The name of the person who was supposed to assist me in claiming my prize is "Ma Wen Sheng" or Vincent Ma (or so he claims) and their number is 011-852-3077-6733. They also always called me from a withheld number to add to the suspicion.

What remedies should I make now???

[pierrefleur]

It's not a scam.

Just provide them with your info and it'll be alright.

Keep us posted.

[AcidBomber]

pay $3000 in lawyer fees first? then they'll return it to you along with your prize?

no thanks. if i ever win anything, i am not going pay them anything to get my "prize".


Good thing you withdrew your money Mr. 白! :razz:
Sad now you have to replace your drivers license... can you report it lost or something and get a new one?
not to mention a new bank account...

[Kuurgen]

I know some companies have problems with English versions of their websites, but this is worse than usual, a clue that they couldn't/wouldn't pay for proper translation.




Will zhigao air conditioning will in next March go to Hong Kong to go on the market the initial period financing amount 1,000,000,000 HK dollars
Yesterday, the Guangdong will zhigao air conditioning Limited liability company (next said “will zhigao air conditioning”) Chairman Li Xinghao announced officially outward, will high air conditioning will go on the market hopeful next year in Hong Kong. “according to the present advancement, in next March, the company home use air conditioning service will go on the market officially, at the appointed time will plan the initial period to plan 1,000,000,000 HK dollars in the capital market.”Li Xinghao said. It is said that the company present is discussing the cooperation matters concerned with Hong Kong some big financial group, within one month hopeful sign agreement. Will high air conditioning present by home use air conditioning, commercial air conditioning and small household electrical appliances production and selling operation primarily, in 2006 refrigerated the year (last September to August), will zhigao air conditioning volume of production and marketing 3,500,000 sets, turnover Renminbi 8,000,000,000 Yuan. According to the country message center's statistics, the item of long-felt wish high air conditioning turnover in domestic places 4th.

[pierrefleur]

........... and I need to pay $3100 ($100 lawyer/account fees non-refundable) to pay for the legal procedures, and after it's all verified i get $3000 (they claim i'm required to pay 2% deposit according to some Hong Kong anti scam/money-laundering law or something) back. They said I also need to do the same thing (or something) here in Canada.

Ask them to deduct the $3100 fee from the prize you won.

Piece of cake.

Congratulations.

[Dash]

sounds like a scam to me.

[yao416]

Hello 白亮群!

[kingsley]

Sounds legit to me. Congratulations.

[sexpuppet6000]

Congrats :D

[Aznsilvrboy]

Ask them to deduct the $3100 fee from the prize you won.

Piece of cake.

Congratulations.

That's not possible because i need to pay the $3100 first to process my claim to make sure I'm "legit" prior to the transfer of the $150k which wouldnt be mine yet.

[pierrefleur]

That's not possible because i need to pay the $3100 first to process my claim to make sure I'm "legit" prior to the transfer of the $150k which wouldnt be mine yet.

You have to do the same in Hong Kong and Canada, so that's $6000, right?

[Aznsilvrboy]

You have to do the same in Hong Kong and Canada, so that's $6000, right?

Well, I'm not sure how much the same procedure would cost me in Canada, that depends on the laws here (which I have no clue about), but I wouldnt be paying that to them anyways. Anyways, does anyone know anything about forfeiting my current drivers license # and getting a new one issued?

[user01]

Well, I'm not sure how much the same procedure would cost me in Canada, that depends on the laws here (which I have no clue about), but I wouldnt be paying that to them anyways. Anyways, does anyone know anything about forfeiting my current drivers license # and getting a new one issued?
Report for stolen drive license... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Aznsilvrboy]

Report for stolen drive license... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Is there no other way to do this besides false claim? :lol:

[heat]

Report for stolen drive license... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Is there no other way to do this besides false claim? :lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[jstaneon]

...and I gave them my bank account/transit/branch #

That is all they need to defraud your bank account. Plus they have all of your personal info. Good for you withdrawing all of your cash and calling your bank.

Don't be surprised though if you run into someone with your ID over in Hong Kong. They will use your identity to create a false ID and perhaps apply for a mortgage in your name. Make sure you keep an eye on your credit.

[Aznsilvrboy]

That is all they need to defraud your bank account. Plus they have all of your personal info. Good for you withdrawing all of your cash and calling your bank.

Don't be surprised though if you run into someone with your ID over in Hong Kong. They will use your identity to create a false ID and perhaps apply for a mortgage in your name. Make sure you keep an eye on your credit.

Well, I plan to go in tomorrow and just close the account and open a new one, as well as paying $10 and get a new driver license. Even if they create fake ID and/or apply for a mortgage in my name, would I be responsible?

[user01]

Is there no other way to do this besides false claim? :lol:

Call me, I don't mind stealing from you..... :razz::razz::razz:

[jstaneon]

Well, I plan to go in tomorrow and just close the account and open a new one, as well as paying $10 and get a new driver license. Even if they create fake ID and/or apply for a mortgage in my name, would I be responsible?

Just close the account ASAP. You should be ok because you reacted right away. It usually takes a bit before someone uses the information after buying it.

You also notified the bank which is really good. I would buy the credit monitoring service from equifax for ~$100 for the year. I have it myself.

[Badger]

This company seems to have real estate projects in Hong Kong, Macau and Mainland China. And those properties in Hong Kong are located in multi millionaire areas.

They seem to operate ferry services too, and according to their business profile, are listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange: 242, and this company is the Shun Tak group, the casino tycoon Stanley Ho owns the company.

But the name of the company is YongSheng Group. :|

Edit, for $3000, you might as well fly to Hong Kong and hire a lawyer instead of using their own lawyer. This promotion seems fishy, but since they have an office in Hong Kong, ask a friend to pop over and see if the office really exists.

[hugh_da_man]

sorry but bank account information + drivers license # = stolen identity

I'd see if you can hire one of those id protector services where they check your credit for you.

[Lava]

Wow.

Some people just don't get it.

[Eyies]

Here we go again..

[-Jatt-]

wow.

Some people just don't get it.

here we go again..

+1

[CrazyFace]

A friend of mine was approached with that same scam a few months ago. Fortunately, he bailed out once they requested that "lawyer's fee."

[Piccolo]

A friend of mine was approached with that same scam a few months ago. Fortunately, he bailed out once they requested that "lawyer's fee."

It amazes me how stupid people are to fall for these scams.

[pierrefleur]

It amazes me how stupid people are to fall for these scams.

They're not stupid, they're greedy... ;)

[AmberMoon]

1st clue would have been handing over financial information that it would be a scam. I'm sorry you naively fell victim to their tactics and hope that in the end it all works out and not a lot of harm has come to your identity.

Its a valuable lesson that I hope follows you through the rest of your adulthood and you protect those sensitive parts of your identity more so now that you have fallen victim.

Never ever ever offer up any information that is solicited especially when it sounds to good to be true. This includes but not limited to, SIN, Banking Information, Drivers License number, Health Card number, DOB ect unless you are 100% sure of who you are handing it to and that the reasons are legit, such as applying for a credit card from your bank ect.

2nd clue is them wanting you to pay up front to get cash, if this was a legit payment then wouldn't they simply take it out of the winnings before hand? Would they not have you filling out forms? I would believe for that amount of money the government would need to be involved somehow ( dont ask me how but anything over 10k i would assume needs some type of forms)

I would now contact the credit reporting agency's, your bank, ect and make them aware that your information has possibly been compromised and you need to know what actions needs to be taken to protect yourself including but not limited to again, changing banking information, credit cards, IDS ect..

Good luck and be a bit more careful next time something too good to be true comes falling in your lap :)

[chris103610]

It's not a scam.

Just provide them with your info and it'll be alright.

Keep us posted.

Sounds legit to me. Congratulations.

lol. are you guys serious?

scam ftw.

and i can't believe you gave out your information like that?
sigh

[sillysimms]

This is the same sort of scam as has been circulating on the internet for years - e.g. you get an email that someone has died and has left a huge amount of money. They want you to help them and will give you 10% of the estate but you have to pay $xx amount first.

Fortunately you didn't pay them, as you wouldn't have seen any of the supposed prize winnings.

[Aznsilvrboy]

1st clue would have been handing over financial information that it would be a scam. I'm sorry you naively fell victim to their tactics and hope that in the end it all works out and not a lot of harm has come to your identity.

Its a valuable lesson that I hope follows you through the rest of your adulthood and you protect those sensitive parts of your identity more so now that you have fallen victim.

Never ever ever offer up any information that is solicited especially when it sounds to good to be true. This includes but not limited to, SIN, Banking Information, Drivers License number, Health Card number, DOB ect unless you are 100% sure of who you are handing it to and that the reasons are legit, such as applying for a credit card from your bank ect.

2nd clue is them wanting you to pay up front to get cash, if this was a legit payment then wouldn't they simply take it out of the winnings before hand? Would they not have you filling out forms? I would believe for that amount of money the government would need to be involved somehow ( dont ask me how but anything over 10k i would assume needs some type of forms)

I would now contact the credit reporting agency's, your bank, ect and make them aware that your information has possibly been compromised and you need to know what actions needs to be taken to protect yourself including but not limited to again, changing banking information, credit cards, IDS ect..

Good luck and be a bit more careful next time something too good to be true comes falling in your lap :)

What credit reporting agency should I contact? and why should I change my credit cards? I didn't give them any info that would allow them to access my credit cards.

[pierrefleur]

Dear honourable Aznsilvrboy,
My name is Alex Dubonse and I am the son of a diamond mining company in Angola. My father is most unfortunately recently deceased due to insurgence in my country and I am in need of a foreign partner to receive $18,000,000 (18 MILLION) held in his name..."




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UCHE NWOKE

FEDERAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE REPUBLIC OF CONGO

Dear friend,

It's very fortunately that i obtained your e-mail account which gingered me to contact you for transfering of these amount ($90.000.000 usd) of funds to your foreign account. I am Dr.MICHEAL N.T, the finance director of {CONGO REPUBLIC} under regim MOBUTU SESSUKU, i was ordered by the president MOBUTU SESSEUKU, to transfer the sum of (ninty million usd) to city security company in holland for importing farbrics, accidentally MOBUTU died in attack, two years ago, these funds have been under the financial organisation custody, i am not opportune to re locate the funds to my local account, unles i submited foreign account to financial organisation before they will transfer the funds there,besides have i no foreign account. The reason you are contacted is to assist me to secure these funds back to your foreign account, i will give you 10% out of the funds while you invest the rest of the funds in business until i arrived your country.

NB: AMOUNT DEPOSITED IN THE FINANCIAL ORGANISATION( 90.000.000 USD). Send me your account. number,fax/phone, i will forward it the financail organisation to transfer the funds to your account.

for more information contact me

much regards
Dr.MICHEAL N.T
PRIVATE EMAIL:dr.micheal@europe.com

[Aznsilvrboy]

Dear honourable Aznsilvrboy,
My name is Alex Dubonse and I am the son of a diamond mining company in Angola. My father is most unfortunately recently deceased due to insurgence in my country and I am in need of a foreign partner to receive $18,000,000 (18 MILLION) held in his name..."




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UCHE NWOKE

FEDERAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE REPUBLIC OF CONGO

Dear friend,

It's very fortunately that i obtained your e-mail account which gingered me to contact you for transfering of these amount ($90.000.000 usd) of funds to your foreign account. I am Dr.MICHEAL N.T, the finance director of {CONGO REPUBLIC} under regim MOBUTU SESSUKU, i was ordered by the president MOBUTU SESSEUKU, to transfer the sum of (ninty million usd) to city security company in holland for importing farbrics, accidentally MOBUTU died in attack, two years ago, these funds have been under the financial organisation custody, i am not opportune to re locate the funds to my local account, unles i submited foreign account to financial organisation before they will transfer the funds there,besides have i no foreign account. The reason you are contacted is to assist me to secure these funds back to your foreign account, i will give you 10% out of the funds while you invest the rest of the funds in business until i arrived your country.

NB: AMOUNT DEPOSITED IN THE FINANCIAL ORGANISATION( 90.000.000 USD). Send me your account. number,fax/phone, i will forward it the financail organisation to transfer the funds to your account.

for more information contact me

much regards
Dr.MICHEAL N.T
PRIVATE EMAIL:dr.micheal@europe.com

Is that supposed to create lawlz?

[pierrefleur]

It's a warning above all.

[blakjak]

One born every minute!

[Piccolo]

Is that supposed to create lawlz?
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[iplom]

Dear honourable Aznsilvrboy,
My name is Alex Dubonse and I am the son of a diamond mining company in Angola. My father is most unfortunately recently deceased due to insurgence in my country and I am in need of a foreign partner to receive $18,000,000 (18 MILLION) held in his name..."




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UCHE NWOKE

FEDERAL MINISTRY OF FINANCE REPUBLIC OF CONGO

Dear friend,

It's very fortunately that i obtained your e-mail account which gingered me to contact you for transfering of these amount ($90.000.000 usd) of funds to your foreign account. I am Dr.MICHEAL N.T, the finance director of {CONGO REPUBLIC} under regim MOBUTU SESSUKU, i was ordered by the president MOBUTU SESSEUKU, to transfer the sum of (ninty million usd) to city security company in holland for importing farbrics, accidentally MOBUTU died in attack, two years ago, these funds have been under the financial organisation custody, i am not opportune to re locate the funds to my local account, unles i submited foreign account to financial organisation before they will transfer the funds there,besides have i no foreign account. The reason you are contacted is to assist me to secure these funds back to your foreign account, i will give you 10% out of the funds while you invest the rest of the funds in business until i arrived your country.

NB: AMOUNT DEPOSITED IN THE FINANCIAL ORGANISATION( 90.000.000 USD). Send me your account. number,fax/phone, i will forward it the financail organisation to transfer the funds to your account.

for more information contact me

much regards
Dr.MICHEAL N.T
PRIVATE EMAIL:dr.micheal@europe.com


Legit! lol

[pierrefleur]

it's ninty millions.

[dondada83]

You're an idiot for giving out your account information. Let this be a lesson to anyone who is stupid enough to fall for what is clearly a scam. Here's a hint, if they require you to pay for something upfront -- stop and think.

[Aznsilvrboy]

You're an idiot for giving out your account information. Let this be a lesson to anyone who is stupid enough to fall for what is clearly a scam. Here's a hint, if they require you to pay for something upfront -- stop and think.

I should point out that the person who contacted me did not mention the "legal fees" until after i've disclosed my information, and then i just declined to continue. Although I admit i was still an idiot for following through until that stage.

[laptop-tech]

Theres no need to pay them $3100.00 in fees. I can do all paperwork for you in my bsmt for only $1500.00.

Send me cash in an envelope and I will help you get your $150.000

[dealtacular]

This morning I received another call asking whether I'm aware of the fact that I had won $150k USD and why hand't I picked up my prize. I said I had no idea I had won and i didn't go to the event. But I was interested (and stupid?)...and I gave them my bank account/transit/branch # + my driver license # because they said they needed to verify that i'm really me (they're in hong kong btw). They said they need to get an lawyer to confirm my identity in HK court and an account to do the papers or something, and I need to pay $3100 ($100 lawyer/account fees non-refundable) to pay for the legal procedures, and after it's all verified i get $3000 (they claim i'm required to pay 2% deposit according to some Hong Kong anti scam/money-laundering law or something) back. They said I also need to do the same thing (or something) here in Canada. The guy talked about Western Union and some other jibberish.

Wow. I'm in disbelief.

[dondada83]

I should point out that the person who contacted me did not mention the "legal fees" until after i've disclosed my information, and then i just declined to continue. Although I admit i was still an idiot for following through until that stage.


Well at least you came to the realization before it was too late.

[ah_long]

you can't do much other than deposit with only the account, transit, branch #...

i would be more concerned with giving out your private info like SIN or DL

[wolvie11]

that sounds totally legit.. i think u should go for it.... GOD

[Ryukishen]

Yeah, it really seems fishy. Good thing you did what you did, although if said dinner actually did occur and people were actually there and you actually won something then that's gotta suck.

In the end, people make mistakes and they become smarter because of it so no need to belittle the OP.

[_Allan_]

In regards to your DL I'm pretty sure they don't actually change your number, and it'll cost more then $10

[pierrefleur]

Yeah, it really seems fishy. Good thing you did what you did, although if said dinner actually did occur and people were actually there and you actually won something then that's gotta suck.

In the end, people make mistakes and they become smarter because of it so no need to belittle the OP.

Who said the deal is fishy?

[Aznsilvrboy]

In regards to your DL I'm pretty sure they don't actually change your number, and it'll cost more then $10

Well MTO's page says it costs $10 to replace lost/stolen or damaged driver license. Would they really give me another one with the same number if it's stolen (my identity is at risk)? :cry:

[raxen]

Sorry man, but you're stuck with that number. I had my wallet stolen a while back, and the new card I got was identical to the old one but with a different expiry date.

I would call TransUnion right now and say that your personal information was stolen. They will make a note on your file to prevent identity theft. Whenever someone uses your info and applies for a credit card, for example, you will be contacted.

There's no free lunch in this world... I guess be thankful that you didn't actually send them any money.

[Aznsilvrboy]

Sorry man, but you're stuck with that number. I had my wallet stolen a while back, and the new card I got was identical to the old one but with a different expiry date.

I would call TransUnion right now and say that your personal information was stolen. They will make a note on your file to prevent identity theft. Whenever someone uses your info and applies for a credit card, for example, you will be contacted.

There's no free lunch in this world... I guess be thankful that you didn't actually send them any money.

TransUnion or Equifax?

[_Jason_]

reminds me of this, (they scammed the scammer, good story)

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=363

Its starts at 5:30

[qeqw443]

That is all they need to defraud your bank account.

defraud ? lol

account/transit/branch #'s alone are pretty much useless

the only thing those ****ing ******* scammers can do with those #'s is DEPOSIT money to the thread starter account via wire transfer


the fact that the thread starter also gave his dl # (and who knows what else) to those scumbags is the real problem here

[kaimui22]

This company called my entire family...everyone's cell phone got a call saying we were invited to a charity show/dinner...but guess what, they were offering to fly us to Macau to see this show full of stars and stuff. The moment I said I wasn't interested, she hung up, then called my dad..then my mom...then my husband. No idea how they got our Canadian cell phone numbers and we definitely didn't register the phone numbers when we travelled in HK/Macau.

I can't believe you really gave them your account info...and if you search other forums, you'll notice that a lot of people with chinese last names got these phone calls. I guess they are targeting those with Chinese last names and trying to persuade you in cantonese or mandarin.

Anyways....don't give them your money.

[S14_Raven]

Quite an elaborate website, at least they put in a bit more effort than the Nigerians..:cheesygri

[BornRuff]

I think that the whole idea that a "charity event" would be giving out 150k, especially to someone who didn't support the fundraiser in any ways should have been a big red flag. Like if you entered a lottery or something like that, that would be one thing, but you didn't. It wouldn't be a very good way of raising money.

[sillysimms]

TransUnion or Equifax?

You should call both. Several years ago, I had to put a warning on my credit files. I called Equifax and they did it over the phone. For Transunion, I called and spoke to someone and they sent me some papers to sign to put the warning on my file. Now when I apply for credit, I go through a few extra steps because of the warning, so they make sure it really is me applying.

If you do a search on google on "419 scam" you can read similar stories to yours (although it got the name "419 scam" because of the area code where many of these scams originally started, but are still similar to your story). For the most part, it seems that those scammers requested bank information etc., but didn't do anything with it. They were more interested in trying to get people to send them money. Hopefully that is the same in your case, but it is best to be on the safe side.

I also lost my wallet once and your driver's license number isn't going to change. For example, the last 6 digits is actually your birth date and from the last six digits it can be determined if you are male or female (at least in Ontario):

e.g. person born May 1, 1975

Male last 6 digits: 7-50501 (1975, May, 1st)

Female last 6 digits: 7-55501 (exactly the same as above, but for a female it is 55 for the month, instead of 05 - for females they add 5 so that your sex can be determined if someone has nothing more than your driver's license number).

[AmberMoon]

TransUnion or Equifax?

Both

http://www.gov.on.ca/mgs/en/ConsProt/STEL02_045975.html

[Kommander_KornFlakes]

Sounds legit to me. Congratulations.

Yeah okay, I would tell them pay $3,000 upfront first? Sure, grab $5,000 from my $150,000 prize and keep the other $2,000 as "tip" after you wired the rest of the $145,000 to my canadian bank account.

[winterfreshgrin]

SCAM!!

Seriously don't fall for it, why give $3000 of your own money for some 'lawyer' to verify your identity when you can fly to HK and pick it up...that is if there is really a lump sum of cash waiting for you.

I can't believe you gave them your information.

[Aznsilvrboy]

Both

http://www.gov.on.ca/mgs/en/ConsProt/STEL02_045975.html

According to that link, I can request a copy of my credit report free of charge, but I assume it will cost me money for periodic updates/warnings when someone tries to apply for credit in my name correct?

[sillysimms]

According to that link, I can request a copy of my credit report free of charge, but I assume it will cost me money for periodic updates/warnings when someone tries to apply for credit in my name correct?

You can get your credit report free by mail and it is advised that everyone should request it at least once a year to make sure there is nothing there that shouldn't be there. Hopefully these people were just trying to get money from you and not going to use your name for identity theft, but you can't be too careful. As I posted earlier, with your driver's license number, they also know your birth date.

I would assume that most credit monitoring has a fee involved. I have a CIBC Visa and if you have this, they offer a free service called CreditSmart. This is free and one feature is that it sends you notification anytime anyone applies for credit in your name or there is an enquiry on your credit file (Equifax only though). So far, it has worked well as each time I've applied for credit or authorized a credit check, I've gotten notification of it within a couple days. I use Visa as my back up credit card and it is a great feature to have for free with a no fee credit card:

http://cibc.com/ca/visa/cibc-creditsmart/increased-security.html
Stay on top of changes to your credit report.
It is important that you be aware of activity on your credit report so you can respond immediately to suspicious activity. CIBC CreditSmart Credit Report Alerts are a CIBC Online Banking tool that will help protect your credit report and your financial well-being. Equifax Canada will inform you of key changes‡ to your personal Equifax credit report, such as new activity, inquiries and new credit applications. You can even choose how you'd like to be notified - by phone, e-mail or through your Online Banking Message Centre.

[Dimension]

What credit reporting agency should I contact? and why should I change my credit cards? I didn't give them any info that would allow them to access my credit cards.

Just a precaution/preventative measures I assume. It depends if your bank account is 'linked' with your credit card (Ex. RBC Visa CC & RBC bank account).

Anyways, GL. I hope you get everything sorted out. And just keep monitoring your mail and account info. the next few months. If something looks specious take action!

[UncleSteve]

defraud ? lol

account/transit/branch #'s alone are pretty much useless


Useless? Uh, no. Post your banking information here, or PM it to me, and I'll process a PAD on Monday morning.

[Aznsilvrboy]

Useless? Uh, no. Post your banking information here, or PM it to me, and I'll process a PAD on Monday morning.

what's PAD?

[UncleSteve]

what's PAD?

Pre-Authorized Debit. Used for things like mortgage payments or car loan payments, bills, etc.

[qeqw443]

Useless? Uh, no. Post your banking information here, or PM it to me, and I'll process a PAD on Monday morning.


it's either you are a mentally ******** or just don't know what the hell you talking about

[UncleSteve]

it's either you are a mentally ******** or just don't know what the hell you talking about

I initiate PADs every week as part of my job. And guess what information I use to collect the funds?

Bank #, Transit # and Account #.

[Piccolo]

I initiate PADs every week as part of my job. And guess what information I use to collect the funds?

Bank #, Transit # and Account #.
Isn't that how the TTC (Toronto Transit) processes the monthly passes for those buying it and getting it mailed? All they need is a void cheque, which essentially has all the account info on it.

[UncleSteve]

Isn't that how the TTC (Toronto Transit) processes the monthly passes for those buying it and getting it mailed? All they need is a void cheque, which essentially has all the account info on it.

Yep. That's all that's needed. Actually, to process a PAD you don't need an actual cheque, just the information on it. The requirement for a void cheque is part of the rules of the Canadian Payment Association, which also requires the initiator of the PAD to have a signed agreement. If either the payee or payor terminate the agreement, the payee is still required to keep the agreement for 12 months after termination of the agreement.

[Kasakato]

defraud ? lol

account/transit/branch #'s alone are pretty much useless

the only thing those ****ing ******* scammers can do with those #'s is DEPOSIT money to the thread starter account via wire transfer


the fact that the thread starter also gave his dl # (and who knows what else) to those scumbags is the real problem here

:lol: How do you think they process cheques? The numbers + name is all you need.

[flito ray]

So a while back I received a call (no idea how they got my cellphone #) from some organization called Yongsheng Electronics: www.hensong.com

whose female rep asked me to do a over-the-phone survey to which i agreed. After the survey she said by completing the survey I've been awarded free entrance to their charity dinner event, i was at school at the time so i just said ok and brushed her off. A week ago one of their people called me while live at the dinner event and told me that I've won something and how come I didnt go. I replied that I was studying for exams and hung up.

This morning I received another call asking whether I'm aware of the fact that I had won $150k USD and why hand't I picked up my prize. I said I had no idea I had won and i didn't go to the event. But I was interested (and stupid?)...and I gave them my bank account/transit/branch # + my driver license # because they said they needed to verify that i'm really me (they're in hong kong btw). They said they need to get an lawyer to confirm my identity in HK court and an account to do the papers or something, and I need to pay $3100 ($100 lawyer/account fees non-refundable) to pay for the legal procedures, and after it's all verified i get $3000 (they claim i'm required to pay 2% deposit according to some Hong Kong anti scam/money-laundering law or something) back. They said I also need to do the same thing (or something) here in Canada. The guy talked about Western Union and some other jibberish.

I told my mom and dad, and to no one's surprise, they bsed at me for falling for the trap. Anyways, I've withdrew all of my cash from the account and asked the rep to disallow any withdraws from my account unless I come in and do it personally.

I plan to close my account and open a new one in addition to getting a new driver license # issued (my current one did not expire). Does anyone know if I'm able to do that (getting new driver license)?

If you're interested, you can go here and see the "scam" for yourself:
http://hensong.com/dz.asp
username: 698968
pw: 8968
My name is one of the three listed beside the third prize. The name of the person who was supposed to assist me in claiming my prize is "Ma Wen Sheng" or Vincent Ma (or so he claims) and their number is 011-852-3077-6733. They also always called me from a withheld number to add to the suspicion.

What remedies should I make now???


hey I Just try your username and password and it doesn't work. I think that mean it's a fraud or fake LOL

[wynneli]

Hi, Aznsilvrboy

Actually, I got the same phone from the company and they said that I am one of the three person (althought, I gave them false name because I didn't know who they were)who got the 150USD, and they also wanted my account number. I was in exactly same situation as you were, got a weird phone call from a women to do a survey and then got invited to go the dinner event. I didn't go because I was also studying for my exam, and this morning this women called Chen something said that I won a third prize of 150USD.

I don't know how they got my phone number and I told them that I don't know the company and not comfortable giving out my account over phone, so I asked for their phone number and company information and contact them later cause it sounded very suspecious.

But after seeing your story, I guess it is indeed scam.
Because if they really want you to give that much information and later asking for legal fee, this does not sound right.

Also, at the beginning, this Chen women didn't even know I lived in Canada, since she asked whether I have an account in the U.S.

I wish you good luck with the driver's license, and actually for bank accont if someone is using your account illegally, the bank will close down your account once they see unusual sum of transactions. My uncle was once in that situation and the bank froze the asset right away.


by the way I wanted to see the information Yong Sheng group posted on line but couldn't get in using your Id and password, is it already closed? I really want to see whether my name (fake one) is on it or not !

[shazbots]

OH DUDE, THE SAME EXACT THING HAPPENED TO ME! Today! (12-19-2008)
Except I didn't give them my banking information because it sounded suspicious.

I'm not in Canada, but in the USA. My Chinese wasn't too good, so I was able to pull off the "I don't understand Chinese too well" excuse.

You can see the screenshot of the fake winnings here:
http://www.pepflags.com/scam.JPG

Yeah, you can log-in by entering that name and number as the username and password. And that Chinese name isn't even written correctly. =]

I guess it pays not to know Chinese well. :cheesygri
I'm glad I found this thread.

[v_tofu]

And here I thought all asians were smart.

At least we know what greed can do to a guy.

[RaTeD]

lmao so gullible