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oliverstwist
Dec 9th, 2008, 04:23 AM
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In their hyperventilated drive to "save" General Motors (read: the United Auto Workers union), they are deploying our wallets to save a failed business, when real "change" would be bankruptcy, from which would emerge a better and more competitive enterprise.

The $25 billion lifeline, to be sliced from the $700 billion Troubled Assets Relief Program meant for the financial industry, rewards GM for decades of incompetence, greed and sterile thinking. We should scram as far as possible from GM's legacy, not resuscitate it. But if Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President George W. Bush, with Obama's blessing, put GM on life support, they would be wallowing in exactly the kind of capitulation to special interests that just weeks ago Democrats condemned.

The UAW has spent $24.6 million in campaign contributions, virtually all to Democratic candidates, in the last 20 years, while GM has spent $10 million on lobbying in just 2008, according to the non-partisan OpenSecrets.org. A few weeks before the election, the UAW announced a $3 million ad campaign in support of Obama.

These millions don't include the uncounted piles of dough that the company and union have spent in the last few weeks to pressure Washington into a bailout.

Over the weekend, Pelosi assured us that GM and the UAW wouldn't get off scot-free, that the $25 billion would come with "strings" attached, such as requiring Detroit to embrace the technology of more fuel-efficient cars—never mind that a different $25 billion of our money already has been set aside in loans for that purpose. Pelosi said the additional $25 billion wouldn't be "new money" because it was coming from "existing" bailout funds. You mean that $700 billion, which suddenly showed up in the last month from who knows where, isn't new money? Stop it, Nancy.

Pelosi's other strings would include a vague company "restructuring" to assure its "long-term" viability. Yeah, sure, we can trust the auto industry and UAW, which made this mess in the first place (GM's car sales began sliding a long time before the current financial crisis arrived), to do what it should have done decades ago.

The best, and perhaps only, way to accomplish what needs to be done is for a bankruptcy judge and his appointed trustee to oversee a top-to-bottom reorganization of the high-bound, uncreative and sluggish company. (For example: How about breaking up GM, which has too many models and divisions, into separate companies, freeing themselves of the brain lock imposed by a lumbering bureaucracy and an unimaginative central management?)

What's needed is a start-over. And a bankruptcy judge has the power to force the company to go back to square one by, among other things, forcing a recasting of the ridiculously rich union contracts. Stockholders, bondholders and other creditors and suppliers will be hurt by a bankruptcy, so why should organized labor escape whole?

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Pete_Coach
Dec 9th, 2008, 07:52 AM
Sometime these reporters think it is only the "big buisness" that is saved by the bailouts. They never take into account how much it would cost if the millions of big three automobile companies direct and indirect workers had no work tomorrow. Who would pay their bills, their mortgages, their car loans, their groceries? Ya think it may be the Government too? What wold you call it then? Welfare? Would the cost be 25 Billion or maybe more?
I am not saying that bailouts are the answer but, at this point what are your options to save the jobs and lives of the millions that are affected?
As for unions, don't allow me to express my thoughts on the usefulness of those organizations. In Ottawa, beginning tomorrow, we are gong to be held hostage by the bus drivers who feel they are underpaid and unloved and therefore will strike so they can prove how much we need them. Where is a guy like Reagan who will come around and fire them all and hire new guys like he did with air traffic controllers years ago. It sure shut that union up, to this day!

golden
Dec 9th, 2008, 09:42 AM
I think the first thing they gotta do is get rid of the union and tie the executive TOTAL compensation to the company performance. Note the word total, not just base salary or bonus as the executives have all sort of perks and side benefits.

Only dramatic changes will help turn this huge sinking titanic around. I doubt a quick bailout provide much of an incentive to change (ok, they gave in, but not nearly enough to turn the ship around, IMO).

I think pre-packaged bankruptcy is the way to go.

xg3
Dec 9th, 2008, 10:17 AM
i agree, as much i think the business is as dead as a rotten fish on a stick... it has to be saved... the end result of the big 3 is a catastrophic result to the economy and the influence of it will be widespread...

no company out there will be able to open up 1 million positions for the people that will be out of job... The big 3 today is simply a infrastructure in place to keep people with a job. Or would we rather have 1 million ppl out of job and give them couple thousands each and call it a day?

uber_uter
Dec 9th, 2008, 11:20 AM
People often forget about the auto parts industry that would be devastated by the collapse of the Big 3. This goes far beyond just trying to save the Big 3 and its workers. Even Honda and Toyota are supporting a bailout plan for the Big 3 in order to save the auto parts industry from collapse.

tikus
Dec 9th, 2008, 02:38 PM
I think the Union should star to have work sharing program, no over-time and worse is to roll back wages, so all workers have money to bring home. BUT workers with seniority will against these ideas.

petaling108
Dec 9th, 2008, 03:09 PM
How do you stop ex-left-wing MP (now defeated) ms Stoner from opening a Magnetic factory in shanghai(ostenibly initially to supplt the Asian car manufacturing market) where people lines up for miles to get a $1 per hour job.
End result closing factorie sin Aurora Newmarket

m4gician
Dec 9th, 2008, 04:16 PM
Fix the organization, the business structure, adapt the fundamentals of the AUTO sector to be able to change with the economy and environment.

Unfortunately, the above statement while the most true, doesn't fit with HELPING Canadians. A sizable part of Canadian employment comes from these companies, and AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, the only way to make sure that the livelihood of the people and communities that depend on these companies doesn't totally go to crap, is to attempt to delay the inevitable.

I'm anti-union from a business standpoint because I've been exposed to the TTC way more often than not. The whole "pay me more for doing less work, working less hours, being less productive" act doesn't fly with me, but it's the reality we live in.

We have to find ways to make integrative gains between both the labour force and the auto business so that we all win, and these bashing threads do nothing to help foster that.