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namdeeps
Dec 2nd, 2008, 04:47 PM
Why!! Why do people purchase 2 wheel drive pickup truck. Is there a point, i see people at construction sites in 2 wheel drive pick up. I saw online there isnt a pick price differance then why.:confused::confused::confused::confused::confu sed::confused::confused::confused::confused::confu sed:

kmltick
Dec 2nd, 2008, 04:57 PM
Maybe they buy it strictly for the utility function.

I do admit sometimes knowing someone who owns a van, or a pickup comes in handy.

MP3_SKY
Dec 2nd, 2008, 04:59 PM
The Ford Ranger now cost as much as a Focus, that's probably why.....

olympic
Dec 2nd, 2008, 05:05 PM
Yeah I laugh when I see them getting stuck in 2" of fresh snow...lol! They're about the equivalent of owning a convertible here in Canada.

skidz88
Dec 2nd, 2008, 05:49 PM
Simple answer, because they can. They are in fact cheaper than their 4x4 counterparts and are easier on gas. Although nowadays most trucks give their owners the ability to select when to use 4x2 and 4x4.

namdeeps
Dec 2nd, 2008, 06:05 PM
Simple answer, because they can. They are in fact cheaper than their 4x4 counterparts and are easier on gas. Although nowadays most trucks give their owners the ability to select when to use 4x2 and 4x4.
If they can switch, why do they only buy 4x2 i see so many ford f series with 4x2 stickers on them. And it is not a big price differance.

UrbanPoet
Dec 2nd, 2008, 06:14 PM
better on gas, cheaper (even if its not much, too some people they might be squeezing every penny).
Some people might only need it for hauling things and therefore only need a 4x2...

Drthorne
Dec 2nd, 2008, 06:27 PM
I have a 2WD GMC and I get around fine in it in the snow. I'm a part time handyman so I need it for picking up supplies and hauling stuff to the landfill. I figured if I get a 4WD I'll be stuck in a mud pit somewhere. Plus, if there's ever a problem with the 4WD system it's typically expensive to repair.

AzN_RiverdaleCI
Dec 2nd, 2008, 06:30 PM
if there's ever a problem with the 4WD system it's typically expensive to repair.

+1, it is!

Pete_Coach
Dec 2nd, 2008, 07:15 PM
Why!! Why do people purchase 2 wheel drive pickup truck. Is there a point, i see people at construction sites in 2 wheel drive pick up. I saw online there isnt a pick price differance then why.:confused::confused::confused::confused::confu sed::confused::confused::confused::confused::confu sed:
Are you like 10 years old? A pick up truck is a utilitarian vehicle, it does more than being able to drive in snow? Is your tremendous confusion because you are not old enough to understand why there are so many variants of a specific vehicle?
I have a 2WD GMC and I get around fine in it in the snow. I'm a part time handyman so I need it for picking up supplies and hauling stuff to the landfill. I figured if I get a 4WD I'll be stuck in a mud pit somewhere. Plus, if there's ever a problem with the 4WD system it's typically expensive to repair.
One example of the hundreds of uses of a pick up truck, regardless of the drive train, for the edification of the OP. :)

Crooked Beat
Dec 2nd, 2008, 07:45 PM
As I travel north in Ontario over the past few years I have observed:

The more north one drives, the less 4x4 vehicles.
The more north one drives, the less vehicles in the ditch in the winter.

The closer one drives to the GTA, the more 4x4 vehicles.
The closer one drives to the GTA, the more 4x4 vehicles in the ditch in the winter.

My opinion:
The people in the north of Ontario see 4x4 as "4 wheel stuck" not "4 wheel drive". They have snow tires and drive in a responsible manner in the winter. There is no need for 4x4 vehicles in the winter. 4x4 vehicles are more expensive to fix; give their drivers an unreasonable sense of driving ability leading to more accidents.

Opinions are like noses, everyone has one.

ghostryder
Dec 2nd, 2008, 08:06 PM
Yeah I laugh when I see them getting stuck in 2" of fresh snow...lol! They're about the equivalent of owning a convertible here in Canada.

I owned 2 different Rangers in 2wd and never had a problem getting around, and that was before I became a winter tire convert.

My dad always had 2wd trucks, I remember asking him why he never bought 4wd for winter. He said if you can't get where you are going in 2wd you shouldn't have been on the road in the first place.

dealmeone
Dec 2nd, 2008, 09:24 PM
Maybe they don't live in an area where they need the traction of a 4X4.
4X2 Pick up trucks are great for towing.
Maybe they want the still rare, V8 rear wheel drive without having to shell out over $35,000.
Alot of people use them for work.
Some still want the security of BIG around them while they drive.

dealmeone
Dec 2nd, 2008, 09:25 PM
I owned 2 different Rangers in 2wd and never had a problem getting around, and that was before I became a winter tire convert.

My dad always had 2wd trucks, I remember asking him why he never bought 4wd for winter. He said if you can't get where you are going in 2wd you shouldn't have been on the road in the first place.

Your dad makes a lot of sense.

beerbaron105
Dec 2nd, 2008, 09:55 PM
Your dad makes a lot of sense.

Yea, makes alot of sense when your residential street is the last one to get plowed and you have to try to get through 2 feet of snow on the road, thats when i zip by in my AWD mitsubishi outlander and laugh at all the cars/2wd trucks stuck!!

new_vr
Dec 2nd, 2008, 10:15 PM
Yea, makes alot of sense when your residential street is the last one to get plowed and you have to try to get through 2 feet of snow on the road, thats when i zip by in my AWD mitsubishi outlander and laugh at all the cars/2wd trucks stuck!!

I don't know why you would laugh at them..doesn't make you seem like a nice person. Or is it because they laugh at all the extra gas you spend all year, for that convenience once in a blue moon.
I did have a 2wd pickup a long time ago, and I never got it stuck once. The drivetrain helps, but the driver is important as well.

dealmeone
Dec 2nd, 2008, 10:21 PM
Yea, makes alot of sense when your residential street is the last one to get plowed and you have to try to get through 2 feet of snow on the road, thats when i zip by in my AWD mitsubishi outlander and laugh at all the cars/2wd trucks stuck!!

I've got front wheel drive and Bridgestone Blizzak snow tires. I have never been stuck.

MP3_SKY
Dec 2nd, 2008, 10:28 PM
I have a FWD and my car is lowered, never got stucked neither.
Some people just over rated themselves and drove on the spot that they shouldn't drive on and get struck....

at1212b
Dec 3rd, 2008, 12:57 AM
Looks like the marketing hype got to some people, especially from all the late advertising about bigger, and bigger more power, more torque 4x4 trucks that have saturated the market in the past decade, largely fuelling all the housing growth and excessive ependitures.

I remember listening to a radio show before, where a caller called in, and was saying there are still many average Joes out there who doesn't make that much money, but still needs the utility of a less expensive, and smaller 2wd truck but the selection of it has largely disappeared because all the companies were targeting the Soccer Moms that had the money (now we know it was all credit) but had no real use for one, while driving the real everyday user out of the market.

beerbaron105
Dec 3rd, 2008, 07:19 PM
I don't know why you would laugh at them..doesn't make you seem like a nice person. Or is it because they laugh at all the extra gas you spend all year, for that convenience once in a blue moon.
I did have a 2wd pickup a long time ago, and I never got it stuck once. The drivetrain helps, but the driver is important as well.

yes, my hog of a 2.4cyl engine

new_vr
Dec 3rd, 2008, 09:04 PM
yes, my hog of a 2.4cyl engine

I was just thinking of the parasitic drivetrain loss.

Mattones
Dec 3rd, 2008, 09:16 PM
Insurance rates are higher. Well for me.

frankmp
Dec 3rd, 2008, 09:56 PM
I have a 2WD GMC and I get around fine .

Me too. Bought an 08 plain Jane GMC regular cab 2x4 and when compared to 4x4 Plain Jane add $2500. In our country (well at least in Alberta) the ONLY option one should (MUST) have and mine does is limited slip. ($350 option....don't know why GM does'nt make it standard). The other added FREE item needed seasonally is a few bags of sand in the box......and you're set to go. Handy, good on gas and plow's great!


Frank

frankmp
Dec 3rd, 2008, 09:59 PM
I saw online there isnt a pick price differance then why.:confused::confused::confused::confused::confu sed::confused::confused::confused::confused::confu sed:

Where online to qualify your comment............what brand........

ps- does "pick price difference translate to big price difference"??

jed
Dec 4th, 2008, 12:50 AM
Theres a large cost difference to 4wd over 2wd. And why do people buy 4x4's? Because they have convinced themselves they MIGHT need the traction and when it does get a bit slick out, they toss it into 4x4 and drive as per normal. Forgetting that brakes don't have the same kind of traction for stopping that you get for acceleration with 4x4.

We saw alot of front driveshaft problems from the u-joint/yoke b/c the front axle was hardly turning from non-use, and the vibration from the driveshaft sitting in one spot, caused issues.

Now with autoshift 4x4 modes, one front wheel is being driven (depending upon the manufacturer) all the time - yes, 3wd, until slippage then its 4wd. More fuel being used, more wear, etc.

4x4 is a convenience that most people don't use and certainly don't use with the same sense they would driving a 2wd. And I own a 4x4.

FazerRider
Dec 4th, 2008, 01:27 AM
As I travel north in Ontario over the past few years I have observed:

The more north one drives, the less 4x4 vehicles.
The more north one drives, the less vehicles in the ditch in the winter.

The closer one drives to the GTA, the more 4x4 vehicles.
The closer one drives to the GTA, the more 4x4 vehicles in the ditch in the winter.

My opinion:
The people in the north of Ontario see 4x4 as "4 wheel stuck" not "4 wheel drive". They have snow tires and drive in a responsible manner in the winter. There is no need for 4x4 vehicles in the winter. 4x4 vehicles are more expensive to fix; give their drivers an unreasonable sense of driving ability leading to more accidents.

Opinions are like noses, everyone has one.

so true!!!

chriswalsh
Dec 4th, 2008, 02:15 AM
I know quite a few people that only use their trucks to tow in the summer... then they store it in the winter. Towing capacities are slightly higher for 4x2s. RWD is good enough for them, even if they towed in the winter, there would be so much weight over the drive wheels that it would probably be ok.

Even when if 4x4 is disconnected via transfer box, the weight of the components are still there so it will adversly affect fuel economy (to some extent).

I have 4x4 F150, but never use 4x4 on the road/highway... there's no need to.