Employment Insurance Questions...

[bonzo]

Just have a few quick questions that I can't seem to find online and don't want to wait any longer on the 1800 telephone number.

I have worked for a relative for about 5 years doing clerk type work (Organizing, collecting and storing files...) well he has finally decided to retire this month.

I wasn't making much about $200 every two weeks after taxes, it was set up as salary so the same pay every two weeks. Whether he needed me or not.

Now I work somewhere else and get paid quite a bit more every two weeks. Can I still apply for Employment insurance when you have another Job at the momment?

Also I see on the website that employment will be based on the deciding factors of the hours of work, the nature of the work, and the importance of the work being done. Some weeks I didn't work , some I worked quite a few nothing was set in stone just whatever needed to get down.

Would I be denied cause importance of work and the fact I already have a second job?

[NUTS]

Just have a few quick questions that I can't seem to find online and don't want to wait any longer on the 1800 telephone number.

I have worked for a relative for about 5 years doing clerk type work (Organizing, collecting and storing files...) well he has finally decided to retire this month.

I wasn't making much about $200 every two weeks after taxes, it was set up as salary so the same pay every two weeks. Whether he needed me or not.

Now I work somewhere else and get paid quite a bit more every two weeks.

Can I still apply for Employment insurance when you have another Job at the momment?

Also I see on the website that employment will be based on the deciding factors of the hours of work, the nature of the work, and the importance of the work being done.

Some weeks I didn't work , some I worked quite a few nothing was set in stone just whatever needed to get down.

Would I be denied cause importance of work and the fact I already have a second job?

I just hope that HRDC or one of its employees was not looking at your post above

Do you know what an ROE is and what reason was stated on your ROE termination from that relative?

Trouble is brewing - posssibly illegal stuff here - I can see it in my crystal ball

[bonzo]

I just hope that HRDC or one of its employees was not looking at your post above

Do you know what an ROE is and what reason was stated on your ROE termination from that relative?

Trouble is brewing - posssibly illegal stuff here - I can see it in my crystal ball

I was on salary, I was suppose to retrieve and return files from their storage location (which was 45km away...cheap rent I guess) at a momments notice. Basically on call and had to use my own gas and car to get there.

ROE-Professional I worked for is retired therefore my position is no longer needed.


I think they charged the client $50 for storage and retrival so they made more then enough to cover my salary.

If it seems to complicated then I would rather not go through the process, plus after reading the part how I would have to fax my pay cheque every two weeks for my other job then it might not be worth it.

[sillysimms]

Without going into anything about the arrangement you had with your relative, it is unlikely you would receive EI due to the math.

First, are you working full time now? If so, you are not entitled to EI anyways.

Second - if you're not full time, if you would receive any at all would depend firstly on whether you were eligible based on the insurable hours in the last 52 weeks reported on your ROE. If the number isn't enough, you wouldn't qualify.

IF the number is high enough to qualify, you receive 55% of your income (up to a maximum and you are under the maximum)

Rough calculations
55% of $200 (your 2 week salary) = EI of $110 every two weeks = $55/week - IF YOU HAD NO OTHER EMPLOYMENT AND QUALIFIED

If you're not working full time, while on EI you can earn $50/week OR 25% of your weekly benefit (whichever is more) without having any deductions from your EI payment. In your case this would be $50. Any amount above that would be deducted dollar for dollar from your EI. Since you say you're making more than you were before, chances are you're now making at least $105 a week. If you're making $105 or more after deducting dollar for dollar from your EI payment the amount earned over $50 your EI payment would be $0.

You can find all the information on this site:
http://www1.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/ei/menu/eihome.shtml

[ShopSmart]

Just have a few quick questions that I can't seem to find online and don't want to wait any longer on the 1800 telephone number.

I have worked for a relative for about 5 years doing clerk type work (Organizing, collecting and storing files...) well he has finally decided to retire this month.

I wasn't making much about $200 every two weeks after taxes, it was set up as salary so the same pay every two weeks. Whether he needed me or not.

Now I work somewhere else and get paid quite a bit more every two weeks. Can I still apply for Employment insurance when you have another Job at the momment?

Also I see on the website that employment will be based on the deciding factors of the hours of work, the nature of the work, and the importance of the work being done. Some weeks I didn't work , some I worked quite a few nothing was set in stone just whatever needed to get down.

Would I be denied cause importance of work and the fact I already have a second job?

If it were me I wouldnt even bother. The amount of time you put the system to work trying to process your application, will probably be offset by the amount of tax money that would be required for administrative purposes.

[ClubberLang]

Without going into anything about the arrangement you had with your relative, it is unlikely you would receive EI due to the math.

First, are you working full time now? If so, you are not entitled to EI anyways.

Second - if you're not full time, if you would receive any at all would depend firstly on whether you were eligible based on the insurable hours in the last 52 weeks reported on your ROE. If the number isn't enough, you wouldn't qualify.

IF the number is high enough to qualify, you receive 55% of your income (up to a maximum and you are under the maximum)

Rough calculations
55% of $200 (your 2 week salary) = EI of $110 every two weeks = $55/week - IF YOU HAD NO OTHER EMPLOYMENT AND QUALIFIED

If you're not working full time, while on EI you can earn $50/week OR 25% of your weekly benefit (whichever is more) without having any deductions from your EI payment. In your case this would be $50. Any amount above that would be deducted dollar for dollar from your EI. Since you say you're making more than you were before, chances are you're now making at least $105 a week. If you're making $105 or more after deducting dollar for dollar from your EI payment the amount earned over $50 your EI payment would be $0.

You can find all the information on this site:
http://www1.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/ei/menu/eihome.shtml

The calculation of the benefit rate would be based on the salary at the other job where he made "quite a bit more". The 200 dollars made at work with the family may or may not be included in the calculation of his rate.


Most important part for the OP to conscider. If you are still working you will not get EI. EI is there to replace your income when you are unemployed. You haven't said if you were laid off/terminated ect...

[sillysimms]

The calculation of the benefit rate would be based on the salary at the other job where he made "quite a bit more". The 200 dollars made at work with the family may or may not be included in the calculation of his rate.


Most important part for the OP to conscider. If you are still working you will not get EI. EI is there to replace your income when you are unemployed. You haven't said if you were laid off/terminated ect...

No, the job where he makes quite a bit more is where he is currently working and currently earning more as per his first post. He was asking if he could work at that job AND collect EI based on his previous (lower pay) job ending.

His current job where he is still employed and making quite a bit more would not be used at all to calculate his benefit rate since he is working, there is no ROE for that job and no end of employment there. However, the pay he is currently getting there WOULD be deducted from any EI benefit he was eligible to receive which would = a $0 EI payment. If he is working full time, he is not entitled at all anyways, but if you are part time, you can collect EI in limited circumstances since you are allowed to earn a small amount of money while collecting which is why I showed the calculations for the OP.

He did say on his ROE the reason for issuing ROE is that the professional he worked for retired and his employment is no longer needed. If he had enough insurable hours and didn't have another job, that reason would make him eligible for EI.

[ClubberLang]

No, the job where he makes quite a bit more is where he is currently working and currently earning more as per his first post. He was asking if he could work at that job AND collect EI based on his previous (lower pay) job ending.

His current job where he is still employed and making quite a bit more would not be used at all to calculate his benefit rate since he is working, there is no ROE for that job and no end of employment there. However, the pay he is currently getting there WOULD be deducted from any EI benefit he was eligible to receive which would = a $0 EI payment. If he is working full time, he is not entitled at all anyways, but if you are part time, you can collect EI in limited circumstances since you are allowed to earn a small amount of money while collecting which is why I showed the calculations for the OP.

He did say on his ROE the reason for issuing ROE is that the professional he worked for retired and his employment is no longer needed. If he had enough insurable hours and didn't have another job, that reason would make him eligible for EI.

This is only partially correct. I missed that he stopped with his Part time job and not his full time job, but thepay from the job where he is currently working would still be used in the calculation of his benefit rate. So would the hours. The Benefit rate is calculated based on all insurable earings in the Rate Calculation Period. (26 weeks of Last Day Worked). The Employer would issue him a record of employment that stated "Other" as the reason for issuing the ROE. It would be verified by the office that he was still working with them....

none of which would matter if he was wokring 35 or more hours per week after his claim began because he wouldnt be payable anyway..