SCAMMER ALERT!!! y2hitman3

[daredevils]

DO Not buy from y2hitman3 as i got scammed!!!!!!!!


http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...4#post11898814

[XxXSnake23XxX]

doesnt exist

[mau77on]

and more details would be helpful

[JAC]

Name: Rohan Verma
Email: y2hitman3@hotmail.com
Email: rohan.verma@gmail.com (?)
Age: 24 (?)
Location: Brampton (?)

Aliases:
xxxzero3
IRC: xXxZeRo3xXx
Falcon

[McLaren__F1]

i believe the OP's link should be this http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=11898814#post11898814

Hes viewing the thread:lol:, lets see what he says

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[y2hitman3]

y2hitman3@hotmail.com isn't my e-mail address sorry. And no, I'm not a scammer, I've traded over RFD and Hofo and Ebay many many times without any problems what so ever before. I've sold many phones and other items and boughten many items and phones without a problem. This guy is being a nut job for god knows what reason. The link is: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653603

No where in the post do I offer a Sim Card. When he first called he wanted me to drop the price to $60 and I refused, I said I'd consider $70 but I wasn't going to sell it for $70 and that I wanted $80. He again said $70 and I reiterated what I said. He kept asking about the "newness" of the phone and to "make sure" I was there at the meet, as though I would miss an opportunity to sell a phone that I offered and made the arrangement to meet for. The day of I get a call an hour earlier asking me to meet up with him right then because he wanted to watch a movie, I was at the gym and had informed him of a tight schedule over the phone in which I had reiterated the time, price, day and location of the meet several times. We meet outside of the Tim Hortons we arranged for, 15 minutes later than he had said, and instead of going instead he stood outside with his girlfriend under the light and inspected the phone. Now here's the kicker, he keeps saying the charger was the wrong charger but when we had the conversation outside of the Timmys he was talking about another motorola charger he had at home that was from an older model, and I had told him it wouldn't work on this one because it was a mini-USB charger, to which he then checked to make sure, and again questioned the newness of the phone. He spent at least 5 minutes inspecting the phone and another 5 questioning me about it before finally handing me the $80 and joked it was $60. Everything seemed to be fine, until two days later when he called me up and told me the phones charger was wrong and that he had gone to the store and found out it was '$30' and that I should "pitch in" and give $20. Now why would he ask for $20 instead of $15? He originally wanted the drop in price to $60, the way he went about outside the Tim Hortons even after I had offered to go inside that way he could inspect the phone and contents properly and the time in which he called me afterwards all make me suspicious of his activities. He says I sold him a "used" phone because it doesn't have the manual or sim card. I didn't offer either in the post. I offered a BNIB phone, not the contents of it. I gave him the proper charger, battery and all of that which was inside. Except for the sim, which I took out, the return to your old phone to rogers packaging thing I took out, I don't recall anything about a manual when he was inspecting the phone. So he's just busting my balls over $20. Is this honestly what I'm gonna have to deal with selling phones? I've never had a problem on TWO sites and on ebay. So I really don't know.

[mcg]

Looks like y2hitman3 is more credible to me than the OP from what is presented so far.

[blakjak]

Looks like y2hitman3 is more credible to me than the OP from what is presented so far.

+1

The OP presented nothing but a non-working link. When following the correct link posted by someone else, there's a link on that post (at another forum)that points right back to a thread at this forum :confused::confused: What's up with that?

[grappos13]

+1 as well about being credible...

but what i dont get from ppl around here is this...

why use the term BNIB (brand new in box) if the box has been opened to take out something like a sim-card... or like an unwrapped game that hasnt been used.. if its not sealed or actually BRAND SPANKING NEW in the box (for items that are not sealed) then its not brand new in box.. if you open it up to take out a sim card.. and no manual.. then its LNIB...just a thought.. i also have gotten kind of scammed with a BNIB item that wasnt what it was.. though that is hopefully going to get rectified soon

[darkprince]

I am siding with y2hitman3.:cheesygri

since OP only scream out "SCAMMER" with no details and provided us with a broken link.:mad:



why use the term BNIB (brand new in box) if the box has been opened to take out something like a sim-card... or like an unwrapped game that hasnt been used.. if its not sealed or actually BRAND SPANKING NEW in the box (for items that are not sealed) then its not brand new in box.. if you open it up to take out a sim card.. and no manual.. then its LNIB...just a thought.. i also have gotten kind of scammed with a BNIB item that wasnt what it was.. though that is hopefully going to get rectified soon

+1

[sassysue]

+1

it seems alot of people likes to call each other scammers when you buy the item consider it sold to you unless otherwise listed

[y2hitman3]

+1 as well about being credible...

but what i dont get from ppl around here is this...

why use the term BNIB (brand new in box) if the box has been opened to take out something like a sim-card... or like an unwrapped game that hasnt been used.. if its not sealed or actually BRAND SPANKING NEW in the box (for items that are not sealed) then its not brand new in box.. if you open it up to take out a sim card.. and no manual.. then its LNIB...just a thought.. i also have gotten kind of scammed with a BNIB item that wasnt what it was.. though that is hopefully going to get rectified soon

It is BNIB, it just wasn't sealed. For some reason even when I got the phone from rogers it wasn't sealed. Maybe it's a motorola thing? I'm not to sure because the box itself was only closed like you'd find a regular box. And just to make sure it's necessary to check everything inside of it. So seal's sometimes have to be broken and what not.

[JAC]

y2hitman3@hotmail.com isn't my e-mail address sorry.

No? Then somebody is impersonating you on HeatWare. Either that or you provided a fake email.
http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=56505

No where in the post do I offer a Sim Card.
"BNIB" and "locked to Rogers" implies a sim card. You should know better, with all your trading experience.

I offered a BNIB phone, not the contents of it.
That is a sh1tty evasion, and enough to place you on my troll list.

Is this honestly what I'm gonna have to deal with selling phones? I've never had a problem on TWO sites and on ebay. So I really don't know.
If you're going to pull those kind of bait-and-switch tactics here, you're going to endure a lot worse. Now we know your name and two emails. Don't expect your next scam will be as easy.

[sparco]

..... and instead of going instead he stood outside with his girlfriend under the light and inspected the phone. Now here's the kicker, he keeps saying the charger was the wrong charger but when we had the conversation outside of the Timmys he was talking about another motorola charger he had at home that was from an older model, and I had told him it wouldn't work on this one because it was a mini-USB charger, to which he then checked to make sure, and again questioned the newness of the phone. He spent at least 5 minutes inspecting the phone and another 5 questioning me about it before finally handing me the $80 and joked it was $60.

1. At this point and time, the buyer has acknowledge that the unit is already opened, not sealed. (since he is inspecting the unit in hand).

2. He inspected the phone, asked questions, etc. and was satisfied with the contents of the box. which is why he handed over the money.

Buyer is at fault for not confirming the contents of the box if he was unsatisfied at the moment of purchase.

[daredevils]

i actually trusted the person statement that he posted on redflagdeals as BNIB cell phone...

I dont know anything about cell phones to be honest and opened the box just to check if charger was in there and phone too ...These are the two main things that came to my mind that should be in the box....

Turned out that the Charger was the wrong one, instruction manual wasnt there either and sim card too wasnt there!!! He took out the sim soo he can make an extra 10$ on redflag deals..... here's the link of him selling the sim card : http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653602

i just hope no one gets rip off like i did...

[mcg]

Hmm...

[y2hitman3]

what the hell am i gonna do with a charger of a phone i don't have any use for? I SOLD another V360 and a Nokia 6085 and neither of those had the sim in it either, just because it's LOCKED to a certain provider doesn't entail that it means the SIM CARD has to come with it. That's just bonus. As far as a "bait and switch goes" that's bogus because this dude's trying to get me to give him what he wanted. He hasn't denied having the conversation about the charger while we were making the deal, he hasn't even said that he didn't check it. Because HE KNOWS he checked it and HE KNOWS we had the damn conversation. He's just ********ing because he wants to coax another 20 bucks outta me.

[y2hitman3]

"BNIB" and "locked to Rogers" implies a sim card. You should know better, with all your trading experience.


That is a sh1tty evasion, and enough to place you on my troll list.


If you're going to pull those kind of bait-and-switch tactics here, you're going to endure a lot worse. Now we know your name and two emails. Don't expect your next scam will be as easy.

While it may IMPLY a sim card and or manual, at the same time this is the SAME PERSON that checked it over. Granted if it was supposed to be in there, believe me this fool spent a good 10 minutes of my time in the cold outside of Tim Horton's checking everything and asking every question possible. I find it extremely annoying that you question my character even though I have tons of references and he has YET to say anything. Hell the dude had the box the whole time WHILE he was checking with his GIRLFRIEND. That's four eyes on a box, so if your saying there was a proper charger in there and I somehow managed to put another one in there your mistaken. We had a CONVERSATION as well as an INSPECTION of the charger. There was NO PROBLEM with the charger. Questioning my character isn't going to get you far, have me on your troll list fine but your not looking at the right guy. I hope a mod notices jerks like this dude running around the forums giving people a bad name. And yeah, those aren't my e-mails, I used to use y2hitman3 a very very long time ago and honestly I don't even recall the second one. So whatever, you know two e-mail addresses, great for you, not like they're going to do you any good considering I don't use them.

[JAC]

Protest your innocence all you like. That fact is that the phone was advertised BNIB, and that was not the case. Yes, the OP is an idiot for buying it; he should have walked away from an obvious scam deal. But that does not mitigate your guilt in the least.

[matdwyer]

i actually trusted the person statement that he posted on redflagdeals as BNIB cell phone...

I dont know anything about cell phones to be honest and opened the box just to check if charger was in there and phone too ...These are the two main things that came to my mind that should be in the box....

Turned out that the Charger was the wrong one, instruction manual wasnt there either and sim card too wasnt there!!! He took out the sim soo he can make an extra 10$ on redflag deals..... here's the link of him selling the sim card : http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653602

i just hope no one gets rip off like i did...

Do you drive a red honda (maybe 98-04)? Becuase this sounds like a similar thing that some guy did to me, I was incredibly sick one day but still managed to do a deal, and the guy ended up low balling me $20 with the intentions of walking at the deal... then after I agreed to that made me throw in a bluetooth headset... On a regular day he would have been told to eff himself, but I was so drugged up and woozy that I did it. :cry:. A day later he freaks out to me about no connecting cord to the computer. Pain in the ass. Anyway hope things get worked out

[y2hitman3]

Protest your innocence all you like. That fact is that the phone was advertised BNIB, and that was not the case. Yes, the OP is an idiot for buying it; he should have walked away from an obvious scam deal. But that does not mitigate your guilt in the least.

Yea, the phone was CLEARLY used because the box was open and never came with a seal even from rogers. Whatever you say genius. I don't know how it's a scam when he's trying to pull a fast one on me.

[y2hitman3]

Do you drive a red honda (maybe 98-04)? Becuase this sounds like a similar thing that some guy did to me, I was incredibly sick one day but still managed to do a deal, and the guy ended up low balling me $20 with the intentions of walking at the deal... then after I agreed to that made me throw in a bluetooth headset... On a regular day he would have been told to eff himself, but I was so drugged up and woozy that I did it. :cry:. A day later he freaks out to me about no connecting cord to the computer. Pain in the ass. Anyway hope things get worked out

i don't think it was red i think it was black but it was definitely an older hatchback sort of civic. so maybe they were the same guy but I can't be sure.

[JAC]

Yea, the phone was CLEARLY used because the box was open and never came with a seal even from rogers. Whatever you say genius. I don't know how it's a scam when he's trying to pull a fast one on me.

BNIB includes all contents, new an unused, especially the sim. Had you specified phone and charger ONLY, then you would be in the right.

As it stands, you lied.

[y2hitman3]

Are you insane man? BNIB does NOT entail a sim card. If you buy a BNIB phone coming from a manufacturer it doesn't include a sim card. Just because the phone is locked to a certain company doesn't mean that it has to come with the sim card. It came with all the contents of the phone, new and unused. I didn't do anything wrong once again. Had he said something the day of the transaction I would definitely agree with him, having my doubts of course because of the conversation, but there is no way in hell your telling me I scammed him if it took him two days to realize the charger that supposedly included by me was the same charger he had orginally at home. That's 100% BS. The rules CLEARLY indicate that a person should try and resolve an issue in a timely fashion. The guy called me at midnight, and posted negative feedback at 6pm without waiting for a damn call back. So as far as I'm concerned JAC your opinion isn't of any consequence for me. Your ASSUMING it has to come with that. Fact of the matter is BNIB entails a brand new phone with brand new contents. The only thing I'm in the wrong for is the manual and that I honestly have no response to. He didn't say anything at the meeting even about the sim or the manual and don't let him fool you with that oh I was trying to waste his time. Dude took his sweet time looking over everything and making sure. It's BS what he's saying plain and simple. Considering the phone and contents are Brand New and were In the Box, I'm not a liar. Thanks.

[felix]

but what i dont get from ppl around here is this...

why use the term BNIB (brand new in box) if the box has been opened to take out something like a sim-card... or like an unwrapped game that hasnt been used.. if its not sealed or actually BRAND SPANKING NEW in the box (for items that are not sealed) then its not brand new in box.. if you open it up to take out a sim card.. and no manual.. then its LNIB...just a thought.. i also have gotten kind of scammed with a BNIB item that wasnt what it was.. though that is hopefully going to get rectified soon
+1

Missing contents means it's not BNIB. If the SIM card is taken out, it may still be considered BNIB if it was clearly stated that it was removed and sold separately. If this was an eBay auction, your buyer could leave you a negative feedback just the same since it was not exactly as advertised. Either way, both buyer and seller could have resolved this to avoid negative feedback over $20 or however much it was.

[y2hitman3]

+1

Missing contents means it's not BNIB. If the SIM card is taken out, it may still be considered BNIB if it was clearly stated that it was removed and sold separately. If this was an eBay auction, your buyer could leave you a negative feedback just the same since it was not exactly as advertised. Either way, both buyer and seller could have resolved this to avoid negative feedback over $20 or however much it was.

I agree with what you say completely, it could have been, but the guy called me A) two days later, B) at 12 AM, C) left negative feedback at 6PM. I didn't even have a chance to get back to him. By time I did, he had already left negative feedback. So I couldn't even do much.

[daredevils]

I actually called you twice, First i was asking you to get me a charger for this phone since it came with the wrong one...and you told me that if it was possible for me to leave it untill tomorrow so you can think about it and you said you will give me a call back the next day....

Waited for your car next day, and i ended up calling you next day at night since you didnt return my call . I asked you again if you could get me a charger and you decided that you didnt want to get me a charger and you told me that you have nothing to do with it....NOW why in the hell would i ask you to buy me a charger if it came with one in the box considering it's the one for the phone ??????? obviously because it came with the wrong charger!!!!!

anyways , you ended up tellin me to piss off and you hung up phone at me.
Thought the best thing i could do ,is to help other members at redflagdeals not to get rip off like i did from you (y2hitman3)

[cgtlky]

y2hitman3, if you are not GUILTY or so call SCAMMER why not just return his money and get back the phone from him. THE END OF THE STORY, because this will never ends specially other forumers saying BNIB (I understand rogers box is not sealed) but missing manual wrong charger prove that you sold a defective or the product seems to have a problem at first place.

[holyheaven]

another person can't even understand meaning of BNIB...

himan, you bought a new phone at rogers or fido whatever and found out the charger is missing, you go back and ask for missing charger and guy saying can't do much...what would u do? solve the problem by yourself with timely manner?

you clearly scammed him no matter what your excuses are..(calling 12am or whatever)..if you sold item as advertised, you won't have problem and he doesn't need to call you at midnight..

i am pretty sure your english is good enough to know what BRAND NEW IN BOX means. BRAND NEW IN BOX should NOT have missing charger i believe..

[y2hitman3]

I actually called you twice, First i was asking you to get me a charger for this phone since it came with the wrong one...and you told me that if it was possible for me to leave it untill tomorrow so you can think about it and you said you will give me a call back the next day....

Waited for your car next day, and i ended up calling you next day at night since you didnt return my call . I asked you again if you could get me a charger and you decided that you didnt want to get me a charger and you told me that you have nothing to do with it....NOW why in the hell would i ask you to buy me a charger if it came with one in the box considering it's the one for the phone ??????? obviously because it came with the wrong charger!!!!!

anyways , you ended up tellin me to piss off and you hung up phone at me.
Thought the best thing i could do ,is to help other members at redflagdeals not to get rip off like i did from you (y2hitman3)


You waited 18 hours for a call. Assuming 8 of those hours that most people would sleep and the 9 - 5 for work. So maybe 2 extra hours? Where I was at the gym? When you called private I had just entered the gym change room. And for the other guys who are saying it's not Brand New In Box because the charger was "CLEARLY" wrong go back and read everything I posted earlier about the situation. The dude wants money and I don't think I should have to take a hit for this guy when I gave him the right charger. We discussed the charger when he was buying it and made sure it was the right one. The person earlier who posted about making sure the boxes contents, as I recall the first time he called about the phone he had asked what was inside of the box, and I was out at the time and told him what I could remember off hand and told him the sim wasn't in the box, but I wasn't sure what exactly the contents were anyways. So I honestly have no idea what the hell he's been going on about. It just clicked that I had a conversation about that with this guy before as well.

[mcg]

So what exactly is wrong with the charger..?

Is it for a totally different phone, or does it have non-north american prongs for the outlet?

I'm really confused from what you two are saying... from what I read from hitman, the charger is the correct one. Now the other guy goes and says it's the wrong one, even after he checked.

So what the hell is wrong?

[HBP]

You waited 18 hours for a call. Assuming 8 of those hours that most people would sleep and the 9 - 5 for work. So maybe 2 extra hours? Where I was at the gym? When you called private I had just entered the gym change room. And for the other guys who are saying it's not Brand New In Box because the charger was "CLEARLY" wrong go back and read everything I posted earlier about the situation. The dude wants money and I don't think I should have to take a hit for this guy when I gave him the right charger. We discussed the charger when he was buying it and made sure it was the right one. The person earlier who posted about making sure the boxes contents, as I recall the first time he called about the phone he had asked what was inside of the box, and I was out at the time and told him what I could remember off hand and told him the sim wasn't in the box, but I wasn't sure what exactly the contents were anyways. So I honestly have no idea what the hell he's been going on about. It just clicked that I had a conversation about that with this guy before as well.

I don't think you scammed him.

[y2hitman3]

y2hitman3, if you are not GUILTY or so call SCAMMER why not just return his money and get back the phone from him. THE END OF THE STORY, because this will never ends specially other forumers saying BNIB (I understand rogers box is not sealed) but missing manual wrong charger prove that you sold a defective or the product seems to have a problem at first place.

I sold him a BRAND new phone that came WITH the proper charger. We know this because we discussed this at the meet and we checked it. He says I scammed him because the charger that was included with the box is the same charger he has at home. MIND YOU, this is the same charger we discussed at the meet. He had said yea I have another charger at home from an older motorola, I had explained to him it wouldn't work because this is a miniusb charger, and that was the one included. We checked to make sure. He originally wanted $20 dollars off so a price of $60, and I refused, so now 2 days later he brings up this charger bs and says it's wrong and says the charger costs $30, you pay $20, instead of saying $15 which would be half of it. Do you not see a connection there? Like honestly? You really think it's coincidental that it's the same $20 off he wants AND the same charger that he had at home? Gimme a break. I've sold over 50 phones without a hitch. And now I'm going to scam a guy over a charger? PLEASE. If I'm going to scam, I'd rather do it making a shitload of money than a damn $20. I've made more money off being legit than to waste that cred for a damn charger. I told this guy to piss off because he was too shady. When we were at the meet he's looking around like he's about to make off with my phone, he kept trying to hassle me down to $60. Like he took his sweet time checking everything, and I did my absolute best to ensure his whiny ass was satisfied with it. And obviously he was when he handed me the money. He has YET to deny that we spoke about the chargers and he has yet to deny that we didn't check over the charger. Because he knows we did, his girl who was standing right beside him WHILE HE HELD THE BOX knows. Seriously. And holyheaven you need to learn to read. There is no MISSING charger, he claims there's a different charger in there. Which if you read what was posted by me, you'd understand that he's just trying to dupe me. And you. And pretty much everybody else into thinking otherwise.

[HBP]

RFD normally takes the side of the OP.

If the seller had made the thread saying the buyer is trying to scam $20 out of me, everyone would blame the buyer saying he should have checked what he was purchasing beforehand.

There is no scam here.

edit: if it remains to be an issue, split the cost for an $8 charger from eBay.

[y2hitman3]

RFD normally takes the side of the OP.

If the seller had made the thread saying the buyer is trying to scam $20 out of me, everyone would blame the buyer saying he should have checked what he was purchasing beforehand.

There is no scam here.

edit: if it remains to be an issue, split the cost for an $8 charger from eBay.

YES, see if he had something like that I would have damn well believed and thought twice, thinking something could have happened where the wrong charger was in the box (mind you I wouldn't have touched the charger to begin with) but because he had said it was a $30 charger and he wanted me to fork over $20, that just sounds like a scam to me. At this point, I'm not giving him anything but that's EXACTLY what I thought when he first said $30charger. I'm thinking to myself why the hell would he want me to pay $20 instead of splitting it? Why didn't he look online for a cheaper one? Those kinds of questions are the ones that should have been asked.

[y2hitman3]

So what exactly is wrong with the charger..?

Is it for a totally different phone, or does it have non-north american prongs for the outlet?

I'm really confused from what you two are saying... from what I read from hitman, the charger is the correct one. Now the other guy goes and says it's the wrong one, even after he checked.

So what the hell is wrong?

The problem he is saying with the charger is that it's not the correct one. He says it's the same charger that he has at home which is some form of an older one, I'm pretty sure it's a north american charger and it's just not a mini-usb charger that V360 would take. And yes, from what I am saying, we looked over the charger, and the input in the phone because he had brought up the fact that he had another charger at home. From that, I told him it wasn't likely to work because Motorola had started using the mini-USB charger instead of the old pronged ones. He told me that it was the wrong charger and that it was the same one he had at home. Two days later of course. So just the timeline of it, and how it went about was too fishy for me.

[daredevils]

bottom line is that the charger that came with phone wasnt the right one at all, it was for another phone clearly since it had no port you can plug it too....nevermind sim card or manual that wasnt in the box

spoke to you on the phone the next day and you clearly didnt want to do anything about it and you kinda got mad and hung up the phone on me...Obviously next thing i did was to post up about you and so people can know who they are dealing with when buying things from by looking at there feedbacks.....

all i wanted was a charger that was compatible with my phone :(

By the way, i never told you that it was the wrong charger nor did i tell you it was ok to have the wrong charger in box ... You made that up just now...

[cgtlky]

daredevils, why not post a picture of the phone and the charger so yhitman3 can comment if that is the one he sold to you. As well as other forumers to comment too.

[HBP]

It's usually the scammer that doesn't want to reply.

daredevils doesn't have a keen interest in this thread (even though it should directly be affecting him--after all he has a phone that DOESN'T WORK right?), while hitman seems to be replying and defending his case as vehemently as possible.

I call daredevils for being the scammer.

[fastlayne]

Two days later of course. So just the timeline of it, and how it went about was too fishy for me.

Fishy? You think the fact that it took all of 2 days to call you on your scam, makes the OP fishy.

And getting back to the BNIB issue, which is, as you admit, how the item was advertised.

Yourself state that "for some reason even when I got the phone from Rogers it wasn't sealed" and that new phones don't come with the SIM card. If it truly was a Rogers-boxed phone, then I find it hard to believe that a SIM was not included. I have never bought any Rogers-boxed phone that did not include the wrapped SIM card.

But even ignoring the SIM card issue, BNIB certainly means, by any measure, that the manual and correct charger would be included.

y2hitman3 you are as much a scammer as daredevils is stupid for going through with the deal.

[daredevils]

i unfortunately dont have a camera to take pictures of the box content and charger.....as far as im concern , Bnib means that it should come with correct charger , a sim card and manuals.....

Its all good i got rip off, i learned a great deal from the mistake i did for trusting someone on redflagdeals....

[runner001]

i am with y2hitman3 here, You checked the phone out and still bought it ,

[Prosy]

I think both parties are at fault,

First of all if the seller states BNIB then that means all the items in the orignial box would be included, which would include the sim card, maunals, software, phone and charger, all wrapped in plastic. If all items were not in plastic and were not included then it's not BNIB, its LNIB (like new, not brand new)

The buyer should have noticed this when the package was examined, and should have backed out of the deal.

A new charger can be purchased off ebay for about $2.00, i just ordered one for myself last week for the exact same phone, which is now for sale.

In the end it is the sellers responsibility to be honest with what is included in the sale, and to use the proper terms when posting. And it is the buyers responsibility to ask all the right questions regarding the item for purchase.

When I sell an Item I allways have no problem anwsering questions, like wise when I buy something I ask 20 questions.

i hope you guys can clear this up, because RFD is a great place and needs to maintain a good reputation.

[sparco]

I bought a phone from rogers today, they opened my box and inserted my sim card and checked if it worked. Is it still BNIB?

If i go to pacific mall and buy a no contract phone. do they give me a sim card?

[cgtlky]

I bought a phone from rogers today, they opened my box and inserted my sim card and checked if it worked. Is it still BNIB?

If i go to pacific mall and buy a no contract phone. do they give me a sim card?


Yes, you buy from rogers, they will open the box to show you everything is working so you will not say they sold you a defective celphone it is still a BNIB (since a celphone box is not SEALED).

No, PMall seller will charge you for the sim card (unless you stated and they agree to gave you the sim card at the price both of you agree upon).