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deviangel
Oct 10th, 2008, 06:51 AM
i recently moved into a newly built house and noticed the shower head plates were not attached to the ceramic tiles. When i approached the builder representative about this he said they werent allowed to do it because of some law or building code. Is he telling the truth?

There is also sound coming from the kitchen hood exhaust like popcorn popping, is it a vent being blown by the wind or an animal in the ducts somewhere?

Pete_Coach
Oct 10th, 2008, 07:02 AM
He is right about the escutcheon plate on the shower (and the toilet shut off and the water pipes coming into the cupboards for the sinks.). I don't know about it being code but it is always loose.
The sound from the hood vent is a matter of detective work, it could be so many things including the flapper on the air outlet or a bit of junk rolling around in the ducts. Good luck finding it.

crimsondr
Oct 10th, 2008, 03:07 PM
Another new house question...

Are new homes normally pre-wired by bell? So all I have to do is install the wall jacks and I'm good to go? (other than ordering service)... Or do they have to come and install something?

Thanks.

Pete_Coach
Oct 10th, 2008, 05:14 PM
Your builder probably only ran the wires from the basement panel (or where the panel will be) to your rooms (the ones you designate). Bell then comes and pulls the wire from outside to the panel they install and make the connection. They will install the jacks for you, for a paltry $40 per jack or you can buy the jacks at $5 each and install them yourself.
The only thing is to get the bell guy to tell you which two wires he is going to use so you use the same two on every jack.
I just went through this yesterday at my kid's new house.

confused student
Oct 10th, 2008, 07:22 PM
Your builder probably only ran the wires from the basement panel (or where the panel will be) to your rooms (the ones you designate). Bell then comes and pulls the wire from outside to the panel they install and make the connection. They will install the jacks for you, for a paltry $40 per jack or you can buy the jacks at $5 each and install them yourself.
The only thing is to get the bell guy to tell you which two wires he is going to use so you use the same two on every jack.
I just went through this yesterday at my kid's new house.
You can get them for $0.51 from Monoprice or $1 at the dollar store.

And the colour on the wire should match the colour on the jack. That's the standard that Bell and everyone else should be using.

Pete_Coach
Oct 10th, 2008, 07:53 PM
You can get them for $0.51 from Monoprice or $1 at the dollar store.

And the colour on the wire should match the colour on the jack. That's the standard that Bell and everyone else should be using.
Good for you. The modular jack I used cost a little more than yours, my bad :confused:
I also wanted to make sure it matched all the other plate styles in the house,so I had to use one specific type.
I just did it and there are 6 wires and Bell uses only 2. The Bell guy decided to use blue and white (as opposed to any other combination from the six colours) and to ensure the phone works, we had to use the same wires at all the jacks. The modular jack also had six connection points and the Bell guy used the red and green connectors on the jack. Why, I don't know. I did what he did and it works fine. The rest of the wires can be connected at a later date if needed.
The point of my comment above was to inform the OP to pay attention to what the Bell guy does so he can emulate it on the other jacks in the house. Actual examples and direction from the Bell guy are much better than 100 opinions. :)

BuildingHomes
Oct 10th, 2008, 09:08 PM
The blue pair is the TIA standard for the primary line. Orange pair would be the second line, then green, then brown.

The red/green connectors on the jack are the standard for a primary line. Red == ring, green == tip.

Solid blue should go to red, white/blue should go to green.


There is no need to connect the other wires unless you have multiple incoming phone lines that need to be wired.

crimsondr
Oct 11th, 2008, 09:09 AM
I had to call Bell 4 times before I talked to someone who knew what I was talking about.

Each time I called I explained that this is a new home and I've ordered dry-loop internet. I tell them they need to run their lines into my home and install a demarc point. At this point they either tell me it's a self installation and I have to do it myself or pay... or they just don't know what I'm talking about.

This last CSR understood the problem, ran a few tests and then said someone would be in contact with me. Hopefully the problem is resolved soon.