What do you consider to be incest?

[looneygurl]

So last night, I watched the latest episode of Private Practice which got me thinking about incest. In the episode a married couple comes into the practice wanting help in conceiving a baby. We find out that the couple are in fact siblings. Due to some ugly twist of fate, their parents went and got the same sperm donor. Since they didn't grow up together, is it still incest?

What do you consider to be incest? Here are some of the situations that I have heard of that I find to be controversial:

1. Marriage between siblings that are adopted into the same household even though they are not biological related. That's illegal in Canada by the way. Not sure what the rest of the world stands on this one.

2. Marriage between first cousins? Second cousins? It's legal in Canada and in a few states in the US. However it's forbidden by the Orthodox Church and Roman Catholic Church.

I remember in elementary school, the guy I had a crush on told me and a bunch of our friends that his parents were first cousins. I was definitely shocked. In between checking to see if he had any visible signs of mutilation or inbreeding (none, he was still cute!) I checked to see if anyone else was shocked. Most were shocked, but surprisingly some weren't. One girl said her parents were first cousins too. Is that really common?

3. What about marrying your deceased spouse's brother or sister? In some cultures this was considered ideal since they can "care" for the widowed spouse and children. Is it still acceptable in some cultures today?


So what do you think?

[7jaii]

Ban on cousins is relatively new. Lots of countries allow it and science research suggest the risks are not much higher than other situations. The word itself is taboo in western culture but with a twist...

You can't say brother w. brother or brother w. sister, but there are tons of legal sister w. sister dvds & websites. Now that's weird. Why don't authorities press charges or why do viewers tolerate it? It's none of our business any ways, with everything going down the dumper (no pun intended) and TV praising roaches like Paris Hilton & Britney, nothing is taboo.

[look30]

While the moral part might not be to appalling because the incest was unknown their kids will play a wicked "duelling banjos"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzae_SqbmDE

[UrbanPoet]

Ban on cousins is relatively new. Lots of countries allow it and science research suggest the risks are not much higher than other situations. The word itself is taboo in western culture but with a twist...

You can't say brother w. brother or brother w. sister, but there are tons of legal sister w. sister dvds & websites. Now that's weird. Why don't authorities press charges or why do viewers tolerate it? It's none of our business any ways, with everything going down the dumper (no pun intended) and TV praising roaches like Paris Hilton & Britney, nothing is taboo.

lol! its also their 'first time' (despite the looseness being the equivalent of throwing a hot dog across a hallway) and they are '18' right?

[7jaii]

lol! its also their 'first time' (despite the looseness being the equivalent of throwing a hot throw across a hallway) and they are '18' right?

Ha ha... I realize internet stuff is make-believe. But when they're identical twins and jamming back to back - they're not spending money on special effects to fool us. If a brother & sister pulled that stunt they'd land in jail.

In between checking to see if he had any visible signs of mutilation or inbreeding (none, he was still cute!) I checked to see if anyone else was shocked. Most were shocked, but surprisingly some weren't. One girl said her parents were first cousins too. Is that really common?

Generally, defects don't just "appear" out of nowhere (ie. 2-3 human generations vs. millions of years). We adopt Darwin's laws because it promotes diversity of genes and increases variability. When we draw from a limited gene pool (ie. marry relatives inside a small isolated village) then recessive harmful genes are prone to appear in their offspring.

Banjo music is a stereotype. There are close family weddings around the world, South Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe, S. America...everywhere to this day.

[spf1971]

Ha ha... I realize internet stuff is make-believe. But when they're identical twins and jamming back to back - they're not spending money on special effects to fool us. If a brother & sister pulled that stunt they'd land in jail.






While creepy as hell, it's not illegal for siblings to have sex in the same room.

[Dash]

I went to highschool with a chick that married her cousin at 18 or 19. That was f*cked up!

I know in chinese culture, it's pretty frowned upon. some parents don't even allow their kids to date anyone with the same last name, regardless of whether they're related.

[Eyies]

So what do you think?

Wow lonelygrl15 has abandoned youtube and come to terrorize RFD.

[yuri_c]

i know in some countries, like indonesia, marriage between close relatives is encouraged because people know who they are marrying, and if there's any wealth involved, it's kept within the family.

even today, in rural china... there have been quite a few cases of people marrying within their family either because a) there are too many men (as a result of the one child policy) b) they don't have a lot to offer to attract someone outside their family. in some cases, brothers will even share one wife.

[Eyies]

in some cases, brothers will even share one wife.
Wow never heard of that... it sounds...








... economical

[Dash]

Wow never heard of that... it sounds...








... economical

lol@economical

[Kranberry]

So last night, I watched the latest episode of Private Practice which got me thinking about incest. In the episode a married couple comes into the practice wanting help in conceiving a baby. We find out that the couple are in fact siblings. Due to some ugly twist of fate, their parents went and got the same sperm donor. Since they didn't grow up together, is it still incest?

What do you consider to be incest? Here are some of the situations that I have heard of that I find to be controversial:

1. Marriage between siblings that are adopted into the same household even though they are not biological related. That's illegal in Canada by the way. Not sure what the rest of the world stands on this one.

2. Marriage between first cousins? Second cousins? It's legal in Canada and in a few states in the US. However it's forbidden by the Orthodox Church and Roman Catholic Church.

I remember in elementary school, the guy I had a crush on told me and a bunch of our friends that his parents were first cousins. I was definitely shocked. In between checking to see if he had any visible signs of mutilation or inbreeding (none, he was still cute!) I checked to see if anyone else was shocked. Most were shocked, but surprisingly some weren't. One girl said her parents were first cousins too. Is that really common?

3. What about marrying your deceased spouse's brother or sister? In some cultures this was considered ideal since they can "care" for the widowed spouse and children. Is it still acceptable in some cultures today?


So what do you think?

In your description they share the same father but different mothers. So they aren't full brother / sister, but half-brother / half-sister.

In terms of incest, not sure what you would consider incest as it could be cultural. Cousins in one culture is, in another it isn't. Immediate family I would say yes. By marriage is a toughy. I know of at least 2 cases, where two families have that. I believe the kids got married before the parents in both cases. But what if it was the other way around?

I went to highschool with a chick that married her cousin at 18 or 19. That was f*cked up!

I know in chinese culture, it's pretty frowned upon. some parents don't even allow their kids to date anyone with the same last name, regardless of whether they're related.

Uhhhh...you sure about that? Watch enough chinese dramas to say that enough Biu Goh's marry Biu Miu, which means they are cousins. Even in the modern ones, case in point TVB modern series "On the First Beat", cousin Man Jing falls for and chases cousin Chung Lap Man. Lap Man's mom and Jing's mom are sisters. So they are first cousins.

[yuri_c]

I went to highschool with a chick that married her cousin at 18 or 19. That was f*cked up!

I know in chinese culture, it's pretty frowned upon. some parents don't even allow their kids to date anyone with the same last name, regardless of whether they're related.

what is frowned upon?

marrying brother/sister, yes. but marrying first cousins? not really.

there were a few chinese philosophers/leaders who married their cousins. i heard the general rule is that if a male were to marry his cousin, it would have to come from one specific side of the family (not sure if it's the mom or the dad's) so then there's less chances of birth defect.

[looneygurl]

Those two people that I mentioned that have parents that are first cousins are Chinese. I believe at least in one of the cases it was okay because they had different last names. I don't understand where it would be okay in that case though. Biologically speaking, it's the same thing. I guess because it looks less incestuous?

[yuri_c]

Wow never heard of that... it sounds...








... economical

it is. thats the reason why they do it.
there's also other factors like education and beauty. most of the men from the country side have a tougher time competing for women because they are not as "successful" as men from shanghai for instance. so they can't really take their pick and have to rely what is available to them. pretty girls from rural areas, they know they can afford to take the risk of moving to a bigger city and finding a successful husband. so they ditch their hometown (and the men), making it even harder for them to find wives. men from bigger cities don't have to worry as much (assuming they have stable jobs). its always the farmers who are at the disadvantage.

[heymikey]

Yeah, the acceptable boundary of incest seems to be quite fuzzy. For example, when I was about 4 or 5 years old, I had this female first cousin (about the same age) that I would kiss on the lips. No, I wasn't attracted to her (hell no) but I kept doing that just to piss her off. One time, she was taking a nap and I pretended that she was Sleeping Beauty and I, Prince Charming. I gave her a kiss on the lips, she woke up and got mad, and ran to her mommy. I just got a kick out of making her squirm. Fun times. Some people might consider that as disgusting, but I guess it's all relative.

[Kranberry]

what is frowned upon?

marrying brother/sister, yes. but marrying first cousins? not really.

there were a few chinese philosophers/leaders who married their cousins. i heard the general rule is that if a male were to marry his cousin, it would have to come from one specific side of the family (not sure if it's the mom or the dad's) so then there's less chances of birth defect.

Mom's side. It's the last name thingy. That way they wouldn't have the same last name at least by birth. You could get same last names by marriage.

Actually now that I think about it, I dated a girl with the same last Chinese name as mine, and she was talking about it being actually better than someone with a different last name. I think Dash has got it backwards, again as usual. :lol: ;)

[Menace]

You are an expert in Chinese society and culture.

Can you teach me some fungshui? :D

it is. thats the reason why they do it.
there's also other factors like education and beauty. most of the men from the country side have a tougher time competing for women because they are not as "successful" as men from shanghai for instance. so they can't really take their pick and have to rely what is available to them. pretty girls from rural areas, they know they can afford to take the risk of moving to a bigger city and finding a successful husband. so they ditch their hometown (and the men), making it even harder for them to find wives. men from bigger cities don't have to worry as much (assuming they have stable jobs). its always the farmers who are at the disadvantage.

[comicbookguy]

So last night, I watched the latest episode of Private Practice which got me thinking about incest.


i don't mean to threadcrap but i just thought this was the funniest thing i've read today. lol.

[Broseph]

Well where are the pictures?

[yuri_c]

You are an expert in Chinese society and culture.

Can you teach me some fungshui? :D

are you trying to mock me?

[ji2o0k]

are you trying to mock me?
no but what area do you work for in your company? You look like you work in Marketing..........

[Menace]

not all. I need to be eduated in many areas.

are you trying to mock me?

[heymikey]

i know in some countries, like indonesia, marriage between close relatives is encouraged because people know who they are marrying, and if there's any wealth involved, it's kept within the family.
Even in Europe centuries ago, you have the aristocrats marrying their cousins to keep power and wealth within the family. That's why a lot of them were hemophiliacs.

[yuri_c]

no but what area do you work for in your company? You look like you work in Marketing..........

lol ba$tard.

[napoleon1769]

Penis goes into vagina.

[Eyies]

You are an expert in Chinese society and culture.

Can you teach me some fungshui? :D

no but what area do you work for in your company? You look like you work in Marketing..........

lol ba$tard.

So before it was:

http://www.intercallmarketing.com/images/lady.jpg

And now its:

http://www.fengshuilady.com/Files/IMG_1017Small.jpg

???.. You age too fast!

yuri_c, please clarify the confusion!

[George W. Bush]

Cousin:cousing marriage is normal - except a "few" countries I may say. Sister:brother is incest.

This cousin thing is "illegal" in the US for economical reasons - to stop the accumulation of wealth in a wealthy family or from having too much wealth where such marriages tend to be very close and the trust there is WAY, WAY stronger vs. other relationships where anything goes.

It is legal in Canada. Look it up.

[dragon_drift]

Even in Europe centuries ago, you have the aristocrats marrying their cousins to keep power and wealth within the family. That's why a lot of them were hemophiliacs.

Same thing with the Egyptians 2-300 years ago except sons marry their moms :confused: :confused: :confused:

[flexwong]

first cousins is messed.

second cousins are fine b/c you're not really related to them. it's just, by-law.

[Menace]

Their once mighty civilization is gone with the desert winds.


Same thing with the Egyptians 2-300 years ago except sons marry their moms :confused: :confused: :confused:

[intercollector]

first cousins is messed.

second cousins are fine b/c you're not really related to them. it's just, by-law.
I recall from an anthropology class I took in university that there are cultures in which they set up arranged marriages with first cousins. Science also agrees that there is enough randomness in genetic makeup that there is no risk with this.

[ronny1980]

Completely off-topic but theres no better time to tell this story:

I went on a date with this girl awhile ago and throughout the evening there were signs that she was rather religious.

First of all she would pray before her meals which was completely fine and I really thought nothing of it except that she's in touch with her faith.

I then started telling her about my highschool years and mentioned that I worked at the YMCA for two summers. As soon as I mentoned YMCA she got really excited (for those that are wondering, YMCA = Young Men's Christian Association). Once again I thought nothing of it.

We ended up going to a coffee shop and we started talking about our families. I mentioned that most of my cousins are girls and her response was " you must be really lucky, so many women to chose from". I thought maybe she was just joking around and, once again, tried to let it slide.

Our conversation eventually led to the discussion about Americans particularly rednecks and their associated stereotypes - incestry being one of them.
I told her between siblings is COMPLETELY disgusting and even between cousins is wrong on so many levels.

Her response was, get this, "Why does it matter, you all come from Adam and Eve anyways". My jaw dropped.

That was the last time I talked to her.

[flexwong]

Completely off-topic but theres no better time to tell this story:

I went on a date with this girl awhile ago and throughout the evening there were signs that she was rather religious.

First of all she would pray before her meals which was completely fine and I really thought nothing of it except that she's in touch with her faith.

I then started telling her about my highschool years and mentioned that I worked at the YMCA for two summers. As soon as I mentoned YMCA she got really excited (for those that are wondering, YMCA = Young Men's Christian Association). Once again I thought nothing of it.

We ended up going to a coffee shop and we started talking about our families. I mentioned that most of my cousins are girls and her response was " you must be really lucky, so many women to chose from". I thought maybe she was just joking around and, once again, tried to let it slide.

Our conversation eventually led to the discussion about Americans particularly rednecks and their associated stereotypes - incestry being one of them.
I told her between siblings is COMPLETELY disgusting and even between cousins is wrong on so many levels.

Her response was, get this, "Why does it matter, you all come from Adam and Eve anyways". My jaw dropped.

That was the last time I talked to her.

epic story. lol.

[looneygurl]

first cousins is messed.

second cousins are fine b/c you're not really related to them. it's just, by-law.

That's not true. In-laws are not considered to be second cousins. Second cousins are people who share the same great-grandparents as you i.e. the children of your parent's cousin, etc

[Uncle Cool]

There was a person at my work that had no problem talking about how he married his niece.

Of course, he was fired shortly after, but he said in some countries, it is as common as us going out with non-family members.

In my opinion, (see how I say that now?), people anywhere on Earth that have sex with, or marry, blood family members (aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, sister, brother, parents, grandparents, etc...) should be shot.

[sexpuppet6000]

Sounds like someone made up an elaborate story to see if it was ok to have some incest love'n.

[anycee]

Increased risk of birth defects from cousin marriage is similar to the risk increase resulting from the woman being in her 40s...

"According to the recent report, children of unrelated parents have a 3 percent to 4 percent chance of being born with a serious birth defect. Children of first cousins have only a slighter higher risk--roughly a 4 percent to 7 percent chance." - http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/04/columns/fl.grossman.incest.04.09/


In my opinion, (see how I say that now?), people anywhere on Earth that have sex with, or marry, blood family members (aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, sister, brother, parents, grandparents, etc...) should be shot.

Interesting opinion.

[Piccolo]

Wow lonelygrl15 has abandoned youtube and come to terrorize RFD.
:lol: You are great.

[gretzky99]

what is frowned upon?

marrying brother/sister, yes. but marrying first cousins? not really.

speaking of brother/sister, the RFD rumour mill says you are Urban Poet's sister. Is that true?

[Blackjack]

Well where are the pictures?

This thread made me think of the movie "Deliverance"

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/mindmay2/Deliverence2_small.jpg

[Billa-786]

[QUOTE=Blackjack;7544184]This thread made me think of the movie "Deliverance"

this thread made me think of the simpsons:

Jebediah: "People, our search is over. On this site we shall build a new town, where we can worship freely, govern justly, and grow vast fields of hemp for making rope and blankets."
Shelbyville Manhattan: "yes, and marry our cousins."
Jebediah: "What are you talking about Shelbyville? Why would we want to marry our cousins?"
Shelbyville Manhattan: "Cause they're so attractive. I thought that was the whole point of this journey."
Jebediah: "Absolutely not."
Shelbyville Manhattan: "I tell you I won't live in a town that robs men of the right to marry their cousins."

[laptop-tech]

While creepy as hell, it's not illegal for siblings to have sex in the same room.


How could they have sex in different rooms ?

[65505201]

How could they have sex in different rooms ?

Hole in the wall...?

[spf1971]

How could they have sex in different rooms ?

I meant with other people. But if they were in a doorway, one could be in one room and the other could be in a second room.

[Dash]

In your description they share the same father but different mothers. So they aren't full brother / sister, but half-brother / half-sister.

In terms of incest, not sure what you would consider incest as it could be cultural. Cousins in one culture is, in another it isn't. Immediate family I would say yes. By marriage is a toughy. I know of at least 2 cases, where two families have that. I believe the kids got married before the parents in both cases. But what if it was the other way around?



Uhhhh...you sure about that? Watch enough chinese dramas to say that enough Biu Goh's marry Biu Miu, which means they are cousins. Even in the modern ones, case in point TVB modern series "On the First Beat", cousin Man Jing falls for and chases cousin Chung Lap Man. Lap Man's mom and Jing's mom are sisters. So they are first cousins.

dude...you went way over my head.....

what is frowned upon?

marrying brother/sister, yes. but marrying first cousins? not really.

there were a few chinese philosophers/leaders who married their cousins. i heard the general rule is that if a male were to marry his cousin, it would have to come from one specific side of the family (not sure if it's the mom or the dad's) so then there's less chances of birth defect.

alright alright. I admit I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to chinese thinking. I had to take an elective in asian studies just to learn the meaning behind alot of traditions and stuff. I just remembered hearing it somewhere. maybe it was a different group of asians...Korean's maybe? all I know is I'm not down with it.

[Dash]

Mom's side. It's the last name thingy. That way they wouldn't have the same last name at least by birth. You could get same last names by marriage.

Actually now that I think about it, I dated a girl with the same last Chinese name as mine, and she was talking about it being actually better than someone with a different last name. I think Dash has got it backwards, again as usual. :lol: ;)

dude, you want to marry someone who could be related to you, that's cool. I'm not particularly down with it. so, if that's backwards thinking, then I'm ok with it.

[Dash]

Completely off-topic but theres no better time to tell this story:

I went on a date with this girl awhile ago and throughout the evening there were signs that she was rather religious.

First of all she would pray before her meals which was completely fine and I really thought nothing of it except that she's in touch with her faith.

I then started telling her about my highschool years and mentioned that I worked at the YMCA for two summers. As soon as I mentoned YMCA she got really excited (for those that are wondering, YMCA = Young Men's Christian Association). Once again I thought nothing of it.

We ended up going to a coffee shop and we started talking about our families. I mentioned that most of my cousins are girls and her response was " you must be really lucky, so many women to chose from". I thought maybe she was just joking around and, once again, tried to let it slide.

Our conversation eventually led to the discussion about Americans particularly rednecks and their associated stereotypes - incestry being one of them.
I told her between siblings is COMPLETELY disgusting and even between cousins is wrong on so many levels.

Her response was, get this, "Why does it matter, you all come from Adam and Eve anyways". My jaw dropped.

That was the last time I talked to her.

HAHAHAH, priceless.

[branat]

Silly rabbit. We all descendants of Lucy and migrated out of Africa.

[Mr. Robo]

Too me, anything by blood is incest.

[ronin893]

in some cases, brothers will even share one wife.
It happens in Tibet. Imagine sharing your wife with your brother.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyandry_in_Tibet

[George W. Bush]

Adam and Eve had children (girls and boys), but the Bible and other old books from other cultures mention Cain and Abel.

The Bible also says that they had kids - and we assume that there were also girls.

Therefore, a brother and a sister had to do it.

Incest.

We all come from the same bloodline, and we have been all incested.

ronny1980 - the girls was right. We all come from Adam and Eve...

It had to be... no? I still don't buy the monkey evolution into man crap. I think that humans started off as humans.

[mgronqui]

Adam and Eve had children (girls and boys), but the Bible and other old books from other cultures mention Cain and Abel.

The Bible also says that they had kids - and we assume that there were also girls.

Therefore, a brother and a sister had to do it.

Incest.

We all come from the same bloodline, and we have been all incested.

Pretty much, it's just minimizing the retardedness. :lol:

[George W. Bush]

mgronqui - did you know that scientifically, out there the psychologists claim that almost all people in the world, if not all - suffer from some mental issues - on various scales of course.

Technically, we are all ********. Less or more, but mental.

[Mr Nobody]

Completely off-topic but theres no better time to tell this story:

I went on a date with this girl awhile ago and throughout the evening there were signs that she was rather religious.

First of all she would pray before her meals which was completely fine and I really thought nothing of it except that she's in touch with her faith.

I then started telling her about my highschool years and mentioned that I worked at the YMCA for two summers. As soon as I mentoned YMCA she got really excited (for those that are wondering, YMCA = Young Men's Christian Association). Once again I thought nothing of it.

We ended up going to a coffee shop and we started talking about our families. I mentioned that most of my cousins are girls and her response was " you must be really lucky, so many women to chose from". I thought maybe she was just joking around and, once again, tried to let it slide.

Our conversation eventually led to the discussion about Americans particularly rednecks and their associated stereotypes - incestry being one of them.
I told her between siblings is COMPLETELY disgusting and even between cousins is wrong on so many levels.

Her response was, get this, "Why does it matter, you all come from Adam and Eve anyways". My jaw dropped.

That was the last time I talked to her.

When she prayed before eating, you should have yelled "Cheque please!" cause you knew you weren't getting some with a religious girl before marriage. No need to wait for all those other signs. Heheh!

[mgronqui]

mgronqui - did you know that scientifically, out there the psychologists claim that almost all people in the world, if not all - suffer from some mental issues - on various scales of course.

Technically, we are all ********. Less or more, but mental.

Yes I know. Who doesn't have issues?

All in all, I think we're all no better than each other.:lol:

[Dash]

Yes I know. Who doesn't have issues?

All in all, I think we're all no better than each other.:lol:

speak for yourself. I'm better than ALOT of people

[Menace]

Now you just started anther His Holy Dalai Lama and the Chinese oppressors thread. :D


It happens in Tibet. Imagine sharing your wife with your brother.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyandry_in_Tibet

[Kranberry]

dude, you want to marry someone who could be related to you, that's cool. I'm not particularly down with it. so, if that's backwards thinking, then I'm ok with it.

Dude, I never said I wanted to, learn how to read.

I said she has the same last Chinese name as me, she wasn't related to me in any shape or form that I could trace, and I didn't marry her. My last name is one of the more popular last names in Chinese, making it very easy to find someone who isn't remotely related to have the same last name. Stop trying to twist my words.

For all the replies you have to my posts, I think you have a serious comprehension issue. Please either learn how to read before you reply to my posts or just don't bother replying to my posts. ;) :lol:

[Dash]

Dude, I never said I wanted to, learn how to read. I was just explaining what the culture in the past had deemed as acceptable. Not agreeing or disagreeing.

For all the replies you have to my posts, I think you have a serious comprehension issue. Please either learn how to read before you reply to my posts or just don't bother replying to my posts. ;) :lol:

damn dude, I'm just messing with you. no need to get testy. all that inbreeding is starting to show through.

[Kranberry]

damn dude, I'm just messing with you. no need to get testy. all that inbreeding is starting to show through.

Dude, no emoticons to describe mood of message means I'll take it seriously. IMHO you still need to learn to read, comprehend and respond appropriately. ;)

[mgronqui]

Fight, fight, fight! :lol: at the ownage.

[yuri_c]

another thing, what is considered 'incest' anyway? people often think its a sexual relationship between family members, but what about people who are 'in love' with each other but do not act on it? is that still incest? its a pretty grey area.

[BananaWeed]

Too me, anything by blood is incest.

This.

I still don't buy the monkey evolution into man crap. I think that humans started off as humans.

'George W. Bush' saying this made me lol.

[v_tofu]

Completely off-topic but theres no better time to tell this story:

I went on a date with this girl awhile ago and throughout the evening there were signs that she was rather religious.

First of all she would pray before her meals which was completely fine and I really thought nothing of it except that she's in touch with her faith.

I then started telling her about my highschool years and mentioned that I worked at the YMCA for two summers. As soon as I mentoned YMCA she got really excited (for those that are wondering, YMCA = Young Men's Christian Association). Once again I thought nothing of it.

We ended up going to a coffee shop and we started talking about our families. I mentioned that most of my cousins are girls and her response was " you must be really lucky, so many women to chose from". I thought maybe she was just joking around and, once again, tried to let it slide.

Our conversation eventually led to the discussion about Americans particularly rednecks and their associated stereotypes - incestry being one of them.
I told her between siblings is COMPLETELY disgusting and even between cousins is wrong on so many levels.

Her response was, get this, "Why does it matter, you all come from Adam and Eve anyways". My jaw dropped.

That was the last time I talked to her.




Whats more funny is that I could have swore I read these techniques in "How to get rid of a guy on the first date" :)

[Dash]

Dude, no emoticons to describe mood of message means I'll take it seriously. IMHO you still need to learn to read, comprehend and respond appropriately. ;)

dude, stop calling me dude. you're hardcore with the emoticons eh? I can comprehend what you wrote. and I can read between the lines. :cheesygri :| :D :twisted: :cry: :o :( :) >:(

[Kranberry]

man, you're hardcore with the emoticons eh? I can comprehend what you wrote. and I can read between the lines. :cheesygri :| :D :twisted: :cry: :o :( :) >:(

To bad your comments are all on one line, I guess I have to read between the words. :lol:

[ENTERICEMAN]

wow, I got very close 1st cousins...if my kid wanted to get with my cousin's kid....I would like...Kick his Arse!.....lol:lol:

[Dash]

To bad your comments are all on one line, I guess I have to read between the words. :lol:

man, I'm always joking. unless of course you do wanna bang your cousin or something....and then...well, that's just gross. :) :evil: >:( :-0 :mad: :lol: :confused: :( :o

[Phr3sh]

wow, I got very close 1st cousins...if my kid wanted to get with my cousin's kid....I would like...Kick his Arse!.....lol:lol:

What if your cousins kid was hot?

[Dash]

Actually now that I think about it, I dated a girl with the same last Chinese name as mine, and she was talking about it being actually better than someone with a different last name. I think Dash has got it backwards, again as usual. :lol: ;)

My reading comprehension:

What is understood by what you said: I dated a girl with the same last name as me. iShe thinks it's better, that way if we got married, we wouldn't have to change our information and what not. Dash is confused as always. I'm just joking Dash, no offence. :lol:

What you actually meant: I dated a girl with the same last name that could have been related to me. she used to say that she has no problems dating her cousin, and neither would I. it's better to keep it in the family, you know? If Dash doesn't like it, then f*ck him. who is he to judge on whether I want to bone my cousin? :mad:

damn dude, I'm just messing with you. no need to get testy. all that inbreeding is starting to show through.

What is understood by what you said: I'm just playing. I get what you're saying, I'm purposely interpreting it in a way that would be funny. In fact, I'm going to use this opportunity to rag on you a little bit more.

What I actually meant: F*CK YOU! I got nothing backwards you cousin loving mofo. I'm going to write this response, and make it seem like I'm just kidding, when in reality, I'm dead serious you inbred f*ck.

:D i really am kidding though. :lol: ;):D :cheesygri

[yuri_c]

dash, you're forgetting these emoticons- :cool: :razz:

[Dash]

dash, you're forgetting these emoticons- :cool: :razz:

you're only allowed 10 max per message. :?: :arrowd: :arrowl: :arrowu: :arrow: :idea:

[Chyron]

[QUOTE=looneygurl;7542406]So last night, I watched the latest episode of Private Practice which got me thinking about incest. In the episode a married couple comes into the practice wanting help in conceiving a baby. We find out that the couple are in fact siblings. Due to some ugly twist of fate, their parents went and got the same sperm donor. Since they didn't grow up together, is it still incest?

That was a season 2 (i think) episode of House!!!

[Menace]

Lust? :lol:

another thing, what is considered 'incest' anyway? people often think its a sexual relationship between family members, but what about people who are 'in love' with each other but do not act on it? is that still incest? its a pretty grey area.

[billdozer]

another thing, what is considered 'incest' anyway? people often think its a sexual relationship between family members, but what about people who are 'in love' with each other but do not act on it? is that still incest? its a pretty grey area.

I'm with dash on this one, you and UP make me sick!! But whatever floats your boat.... :lol: :twisted:

[yuri_c]

I'm with dash on this one, you and UP make me sick!! But whatever floats your boat.... :lol: :twisted:

ugh.

damn you billdozer. damn you!

[Topher]

This thread reminds me of this:

http://www.trurons.com/music/I_am_My_Own_Grandpa_video.html

[looneygurl]

That was a season 2 (i think) episode of House!!!

Um. I think I would know better than you what I was watching. That was 'wonderful' of you to set me straight. Since you know better than me about what I've been doing maybe you can tell me where I left my keys? Can't seem to find them. Thanks.

[Thi3d_Wish]

Why Is This Thread Still Alive?

[Bskll]

another thing, what is considered 'incest' anyway? people often think its a sexual relationship between family members, but what about people who are 'in love' with each other but do not act on it? is that still incest? its a pretty grey area.

maybe this is the reason why yuri ain't getting her chinese man?:D

[Nikita]

no but what area do you work for in your company? You look like you work in Marketing..........

LOL...good one!

That's not true. In-laws are not considered to be second cousins. Second cousins are people who share the same great-grandparents as you i.e. the children of your parent's cousin, etc

Yep, second cousins are blood related.

There was a person at my work that had no problem talking about how he married his niece.

Of course, he was fired shortly after, but he said in some countries, it is as common as us going out with non-family members.

In my opinion, (see how I say that now?), people anywhere on Earth that have sex with, or marry, blood family members (aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, sister, brother, parents, grandparents, etc...) should be shot.

UC, anytime someone engages in anything you don't agree with, you're answer is 'shootem'....can you get a new line or something. Or try this...recognize that (thankfully) the whole world isn't like you....and, you are not always right.

Sounds like someone made up an elaborate story to see if it was ok to have some incest love'n.

So last night, I watched the latest episode of Private Practice which got me thinking about incest. In the episode a married couple comes into the practice wanting help in conceiving a baby. We find out that the couple are in fact siblings. Due to some ugly twist of fate, their parents went and got the same sperm donor. Since they didn't grow up together, is it still incest?

That was a season 2 (i think) episode of House!!!


Nope, I saw the same episode...Private Practice indeed.

another thing, what is considered 'incest' anyway? people often think its a sexual relationship between family members, but what about people who are 'in love' with each other but do not act on it? is that still incest? its a pretty grey area.

Governments don't and can't legislate who you fall in love with. Sexual interaction has to exist for it to be considered incest. Government aside, common sense says that incest means sexual activity.

[billdozer]

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7198429&postcount=8

[AcidBomber]

are you trying to mock me?

no but what area do you work for in your company? You look like you work in Marketing..........


LOL
NICE ONE. :cheesygri

[Uncle Cool]

UC, anytime someone engages in anything you don't agree with, you're answer is 'shootem'....can you get a new line or something. Or try this...recognize that (thankfully) the whole world isn't like you....and, you are not always right.

Hi Nikita,

Well, thank you for your opinion, as always.

You did notice the IN MY OPINION disclaimer, right?

Have a nice day.

[Nikita]

Hi Nikita,

Well, thank you for your opinion, as always.

You did notice the IN MY OPINION disclaimer, right?

Have a nice day.

Hi Uncle Cool.

Well, thank you for the non-clarification, as always.

You do know that adding an 'IN MY OPINION' doesn't change the fact that it's the same mantra, right?

Have a nice afternoon.

[konfusion666]

I recall from an anthropology class I took in university that there are cultures in which they set up arranged marriages with first cousins. Science also agrees that there is enough randomness in genetic makeup that there is no risk with this.

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but amongst some Hindus in India (in particular, one of the "higher-up" castes, although the caste system is officially illegal since their Independence) marriage between first cousins is permitted, as long as the kids' parents are of opposite sex. Don't know where they came up with that, but it's like this:

Dad 1 + Mom 1 = Kid 1
Dad 2 + Mom 2 = Kid 2

IF Dad 1 and Dad 2 are siblings, then Kid 1 + Kid 2 is illegal
IF Dad 1 and Mom 2 are siblings, then Kid 1 + Kid 2 is legal

[goob3r]

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but amongst some Hindus in India (in particular, one of the "higher-up" castes, although the caste system is officially illegal since their Independence) marriage between first cousins is permitted, as long as the kids' parents are of opposite sex. Don't know where they came up with that, but it's like this:

Dad 1 + Mom 1 = Kid 1
Dad 2 + Mom 2 = Kid 2

IF Dad 1 and Dad 2 are siblings, then Kid 1 + Kid 2 is illegal
IF Dad 1 and Mom 2 are siblings, then Kid 1 + Kid 2 is legal

What does the government do with illegal children? Dispose of them in a furnace?

[Setz]

What does the government do with illegal children? Dispose of them in a furnace?

I admit, I loled.

To think I'd never see the day. Incest being discussed in OT.

[konfusion666]

What does the government do with illegal children? Dispose of them in a furnace?

LMAO. No, what I meant was "the wedding between Kid (cousin) 1 and Kid (cousin) 2 would be allowed or disallowed (as per religious traditions) based on the type of 'sibling relationship' of their parents".

Incest being discussed in OT.

Surely, this can't have been the first time.

[i6s1]

It's called parallel cousins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_cousin

[Uncle Cool]

It's called parallel cousins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_cousin

It's still incest.

[manixc]

How the heck can a topic on incest last for 7 pages? jeez.