Buick Enclave VS Mazda CX9? Wich one is the best?

[protege-five]

We are debating to buy or not to buy between those two crossover, any thought? Thank you

[Engi-Nir]

Buick has a better reliability record, and has 4yrs bumper to bumper warranty and the 160k km/5yr powertrain warranty. I think the 09 enclaves comes with the cts 3.6 DI engine, fit and finish is very good from what I saw. Mazda cx9 won the 2008 SUV of the year from motor trend. Fuel economy goes to Enclave. Pick the car you like instead of asking opinions from strangers :D

EPA (mpg):
AWD FWD
Buick 18 19
Mazda 17 18

[Gloaming]

sit in them- we turned down the mazda since neither my wife nor myself were comfortable in the seats. We took a veracruz instead.

[V A N Q U I S H]

I'm not big on the domestics (I don't HATE them though), but purely by looks I'd go for the Enclave.

http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2006/01/16-buick-enclave-concept/Buick%20Enclave%20Concept%202-lg.jpg

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/04/ny_auto_show/image/mazda_cx9.jpg

[engmsf]

Buick Enclave!

[CS-Source-ChallengeME!]

how old are you? lol i see buicks as "mature" peoples car.. like 50+

if you still have kids that have to sit in the back seat, go with the mazda.

i love the look of the enclave though.. its really a coin toss. the mazda will probably last longer.

[dshiu]

Buick has a better reliability record, and has 4yrs bumper to bumper warranty and the 160k km/5yr powertrain warranty. I think the 09 enclaves comes with the cts 3.6 DI engine, fit and finish is very good from what I saw. Mazda cx9 won the 2008 SUV of the year from motor trend. Fuel economy goes to Enclave. Pick the car you like instead of asking opinions from strangers :D

EPA (mpg):
AWD FWD
Buick 18 19
Mazda 17 18
serious? im surprised a buick has better reliability record than the mazda :-0

is it just these 2 cars or in general? and is it because theres a lot more mazda than buick so they have a higher number of ppl who get their car fixed?

i might just be stereotypical, always think that cars other than japanese, especially american cars, arent reliable at all .. :lol:

[Emancipated]

The Enclave is a rare sight. It also looks European, for what it's worth. Reminds me of a Cayenne.

[bionicbadger]

serious? im surprised a buick has better reliability record than the mazda :-0

is it just these 2 cars or in general? and is it because theres a lot more mazda than buick so they have a higher number of ppl who get their car fixed?

i might just be stereotypical, always think that cars other than japanese, especially american cars, arent reliable at all .. :lol:

This is why you need to do research.
Did you know that the Mazda CX9 uses the FORD CD3 platform? Same platform as:
Mazda 6
Ford Fusion
Lincon Zephyr/MKZ
Mercury Milan
Ford Edge
Lincoln MKX

All built on the same platform.
How Japanese is that?

[zzz3]

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings/dependability-ratings-by-brand
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings/quality-ratings-by-brand

A little broad and encompassing, but buick is pretty solid as a brand.

[sunnybono]

We are debating to buy or not to buy between those two crossover, any thought? Thank you

The Enclave, hands down!!!! More Fuel Efficient and parts are cheaper than the Mazda!!!!!

sk

[hotweiss]

In this comparison, Enclave. I still remember seeing it for the first time at the car show two years ago, I couldn't believe that GM made a car with so much character and appeal. Buick also has great quality control - so they say.

[Engi-Nir]

serious? im surprised a buick has better reliability record than the mazda :-0

is it just these 2 cars or in general? and is it because theres a lot more mazda than buick so they have a higher number of ppl who get their car fixed?

i might just be stereotypical, always think that cars other than japanese, especially american cars, arent reliable at all .. :lol:

Yes, it is very reliable, so says JD and Power, and consumer reports. Who cares, you get 4yrs/bumper to bumper. I hear less people comparing mazda to reliability now a days. Just because it is japanese doesn't mean it is a HONDA/TOYOTA!!!!!!

[petaling108]

Buick Enclave with a advertised price of 34000 (for FWD ? $7000 rebate)this crossover is worth looking into,esp since US prices are similar,ie Canadians are NOT being gouged on the Enclave.
Do you still get 0 % financing or 0.9 % as per gmcanada.com?

[sienna owner]

they are both nice looking cars...just from personal experience, the Buick rear has slight more storage, however with CUV this size for 7 ppl, you're not really buying it for that...LOL
for comfort of passengers, i would go with the Buick Enclave..my inlaw has one and has never been happier...previous reviews say that the Enclave (and i assume the Saturn Outlook & GM Acadia) have the best passenger confort for 7 adults....i think it was motoring or driving.ca that said it.. not sure...been awhile.
i like the fact that the Enclave 2nd row is captain chairs, meaning more confort for the passengers there...although i believe you can opt for a bench to have an 8 seater??
i was driving it a bit during the past week since the inlaws were away...was sad to go back to my '01 Jeep...LOL


edit: as a side note, had he not been able to jump successfully thru hoops to get his enclave in the states, he would have gotten the CX9 as his second choice with less cross-border hassle

[ES_Revenge]

i might just be stereotypical
Wow, you think? ....

always think that cars other than japanese, especially american cars, arent reliable at all .. :lol:
:rolleyes:

[roguechameleon]

Yes, it is very reliable, so says JD and Power, and consumer reports. Who cares, you get 4yrs/bumper to bumper. I hear less people comparing mazda to reliability now a days. Just because it is japanese doesn't mean it is a HONDA/TOYOTA!!!!!!

And just because it's a Honda/Toyota doesn't mean it's reliable. Stereotypes are for suckers.

[petaling108]

6 yr old Honda:$5100 later in repair.long live the mistaken belief of Japanese superiority

From another thread:"Warning Very Long story..


Today my dad went to Ready Honda to check the engine light that came back on after we had done major repair 3 weeks ago on the transmission (engine light was on)... It is written in our last statement that it was everything was fixed..

So they now say the first engine light problem was due to the transmission and now it points to the emissions control (basically replacing the fuel sensor) [this is not true since engine light only means emission controls and nothing to do with transmission - which should have been checked the first time] and charge us the diagnostic fee which came to $108.00!. We already paid them over $5000 get a rebuilt transmission (I know we should went elsewhere but it happened right by Ready Honda) and fix the engine light - emissions controls.


This 'service advisor' Philip Fernandes goes on saying next time your engine light goes on for example in a couple days, it is going to be another problem... and so on.

My dad then says "You mean I will have to come back every couple days time to diagnosis the engine light (if and when it comes on) and pay $108 each time? When you didn't even fix the original problem the very first"

[ES_Revenge]

6 yr old Honda:$5100 later in repair.long live the mistaken belief of Japanese superiority

From another thread...
There's tons of them on RFD. It's rather funny... The majority of problems posted in threads seem to be about Hondas and Toyotas, yet when talking about buying cars many RFDers give the ol' "stick with a Civic, Corolla" bit :rolleyes:

[2961883]

buying a car is the 2nd biggest investment, I think u think take a look at more cars.

ya the buick enclave doesn't look 1/2 bad

have you looked at the subaru forester?
subaru engines can be really reliable.

[Engi-Nir]

And just because it's a Honda/Toyota doesn't mean it's reliable. Stereotypes are for suckers.

lol...Japanese cars if you want to look at relability of the 90's was toyota/honda, there are still pretty descent but their reliability has decreased overall. Sad part is GM/Ford is almost caught up to these car companies, who once lead quality. Perception lacks reality now a days. RFD lives by the honda/toyota from all the fan boys on here ;) But, toyotas/hondas are over hyped.
btw, Mazda/Nissan is automatically given the reliability nod just because it is Japanese, that is what I was getting at.

[KawaiiTentacleBeast]

That's why Mazda/Nissan were teetering on the brink of bankruptcy before Ford/Renault saved them. Because there cars were TOO reliable. :lol:

[weedb0y]

Buick has had a great reliability record for years now. They are second to Lexus in terms of reliability for a long time. Enclave has been a great product for GM/Buick brand.

The only problem with Buick has been the the old-folk persona. Go with Buick, far better car for the dollar. Mazda is not above average in anyway, its average.

Their entry level mazda 3 is just good looking but it definitely isn't something that is considered ultra reliable and bullet proof in terms of quality.

Most of the stuff coming out of GM now is reliable, heck my 95 sunfire gave me less problems than our god's gift from Acura that I have on my drive way right now.

[weedb0y]

That's why Mazda/Nissan were teetering on the brink of bankruptcy before Ford/Renault saved them. Because there cars were TOO reliable. :lol:

LOL, yup..they were too good..hence ppl were flockin over to Nissans and Mazdas lol hahaha

[roguechameleon]

The majority of problems posted in threads seem to be about Hondas and Toyotas

Perhaps that's because the majority of people here own Hondas and Toyotas?

[Engi-Nir]

Perhaps that's because the majority of people here own Hondas and Toyotas?

The understanding is that H&T do not break down period! It is what RFD lives by :D I also understood that GM breaks apart the moment it drives out of the dealership..

[ES_Revenge]

The understanding is that H&T do not break down period! It is what RFD lives by :D I also understood that GM breaks apart the moment it drives out of the dealership..

Exactly! Who cares how many people own what? If Toyotas (and other Japanese cars) allegedly "never have problems" and are all super reliable the threads would either mean

a. that thinking is ********, or

b. all those people posting are trolling.

I will go with a. thanks (because it's the truth). :)

[goldbarry]

Go with Mazda CX-9 you will not say sorry.

I bought CX-9 one year ago and still happy every minute I am driving this amazing vehicle.

I drove to Montreblant QC, New York City with my wife and 2 kids.

Just read reviews

[jedijome]

or do yourself a favour and actually drive the cars.

I'd personally go with the enclave. it just seems to have that panache and a level of luxury/class that the Mazda doesn't have.

[Engi-Nir]

I think by now OP brought a cuv

[kingrukus]

or do yourself a favour and actually drive the cars.

I'd personally go with the enclave. It just seems to have that panache and a level of luxury/class that the mazda doesn't have.

+1

[IMHIP2]

I think by now OP brought a cuv

I think the OP bought a Mazda 5.

I on the other hand I bought an Enclave with the CX9 being the 2nd runner up. Some of the reasons I went with the Enclave over the CX9 were my knee didn't hit the side of the console, I could get an 8 passanger, more cargo room behind the 3rd row, towing capacity of 4500lbs, Onstar, very quiet interior, dual panel sun roof with DVD (not one or the other), heavy discount and I think it does look slightly better. The transmission in the CX9 did feel better and it is built in Japan for what its worth.

Both nice vehicles but the Enclave better fit my needs.

[Ironballz]

Another one for the Enclave.

Buick ties Lexus for No. 1 in car reliability (http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/08/autos/jdpa_dependability/index.htm)

I'm not a fan of domestics due to their quality and lack of fuel efficiency but I definitely wouldn't mind an Enclave.

[Engi-Nir]

Another one for the Enclave.

Buick ties Lexus for No. 1 in car reliability (http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/08/autos/jdpa_dependability/index.htm)

I'm not a fan of domestics due to their quality and lack of fuel efficiency but I definitely wouldn't mind an Enclave.

lol...you should check out fueleconomy.com, eye opener. The domestics have caught up or bettered Honda/Toyota