Conflicting job offers from the same company....PLEASE HELP ASAP!!!

[The Master]

Ok guys I could really use some advice with this situation ASAP!

Last Wednesday I received a job offer from a Monster.ca headhunter. She asked me all the relevant questions and said that I was a great candidate for the position. She completed two reference checks and told me the max the company was will to pay me was $16.00 per hour. I accepted the offer verbally over the phone and she stated that she would send the information to the employer and get back to me within a couple of days.

Today I receive a call from a Workopolis.com headhunter for the exact same position. The catch is, they are willing to pay me $19.00 plus per hour. Here's the problem, I already accepted the first offer verbally over the phone but I now know that the first headhunter was holding out on me in hopes of earning a higher commission.

What should I do??????

[cq358]

Turn down the first one since you haven't sign the contract.

bargain the contract with the second one and eyeballing $22/hr

[saltypig]

Since it is the same company that is hiring the company will know what you did and so will the headhunter. The company may not decide to hire you after you turn down the first.

Just go back to the first one and tell her that your friend :rolleyes: was offered more for the same position and see if she will increase the amount or if you want to risk it say you were offered another job for $19 an hour but really like this one if the pay was more and see what she says.

[dealtacular]

This is a tough situation. I think it is somewhat unethical to back out after accepting a verbal offer, however, in this case, you were arguably deceived as one recruiter claimed the offer could not be raised when it could have been. Also, in general, it is always hard to decide what to do if you accept one offer and then another offer comes along for another job.

Having never been in this situation, I'm not entirely sure what is right or what is best. I think you should negotiate and accept the second offer ($19), and after you have signed it, decline the first offer ($16). It is unlikely the second offer would be taken off the table if you reject the first, but I wouldn't want to test that. It seems to me that the employer does not have an idea who you are, because if they were paying attention, they should notice two different offers were made to you for the same position. Perhaps the recruiters do not work all that closely with the employer.

[cgtlky]

When head hunter 1 submit your resume it does not includes your personal information (name, address, phone number) on it as well as head hunter 2. So, if you turn down Head hunter 1, I don't see that the same employer will know if you are the same person head hunter 1 and 2 show to the employer. Another option is tell head hunter 1 that head hunter 2 gave you a better rate and see what they will say but never mention head hunter 2 (company name).

[gretzky99]

Ok guys I could really use some advice with this situation ASAP!

Last Wednesday I received a job offer from a Monster.ca headhunter. She asked me all the relevant questions and said that I was a great candidate for the position. She completed two reference checks and told me the max the company was will to pay me was $16.00 per hour. I accepted the offer verbally over the phone and she stated that she would send the information to the employer and get back to me within a couple of days.

Today I receive a call from a Workopolis.com headhunter for the exact same position. The catch is, they are willing to pay me $19.00 plus per hour. Here's the problem, I already accepted the first offer verbally over the phone but I now know that the first headhunter was holding out on me in hopes of earning a higher commission.

What should I do??????

This doesn't make sense at all?!?! :confused:

How could TWO different headhunters offer you a position from the same company for the exact same position?

When you had the interview with ABC Co. what recruiter (Monster or Workopolis) got you that interview with ABC Co?
It can only be ONE.

Once ABC Co decides that they want to hire you they will inform only ONE recruiter that it was their candidate that they decided to hire.

Please clarify.

[coolspot]

This is a tough situation. I think it is somewhat unethical to back out after accepting a verbal offer

Nothing is legal until you sign the papers - so it's perfectly OK for the OP to back out.

[madara]

This doesn't make sense at all?!?! :confused:

How could TWO different headhunters offer you a position from the same company for the exact same position?

When you had the interview with ABC Co. what recruiter (Monster or Workopolis) got you that interview with ABC Co?
It can only be ONE.

Once ABC Co decides that they want to hire you they will inform only ONE recruiter that it was their candidate that they decided to hire.

Please clarify.


OP didn't mention about an interview with the company. They may have more than one vacancy to fill.

OP, you said that the monster head hunter already sent your info to the company. There is no point in backing out to go with the workopolis head hunter.

[CeoOfKFC]

In MOST cases a double resume submission will result in nothing.

[gretzky99]

OP didn't mention about an interview with the company. They may have more than one vacancy to fill.

I highly doubt a company would hire a candidate based soley on the recommendations of a headhunter.
The company would want a face-to-face interview with the candidate before making any final decision.

[mmrrX]

First of all, get the offer first and sign the paper work... recruiting agencies that give you an offer of employment without the paper work mean nothing. They can just say the position was filled, or closed or whatever. I've experienced this a few times.

Second, being submitted by 2 different recruiters is a big no no. You'll end up with no job once they see you have two different recruiters representing you. The company the recruiter represents does see your resume with your name on it, usually with the on the recruiter's letter head. I've seen this first hand, so I know it happens... but if you're lucky, they won't see the duplicate submission and just hire you based on the $16 one (assuming they saw it first).

When working with recruiters, regardless if you agree to sole representation for a specific roll, it's assumed in most cases. If one recruiter finds out that you used another recruiter for the same job and you accepted one over the other for whatever reason, be ready to pack your bags. They have a lot of pull with HR departments.

[fly]

Yup, I too have experienced this first hand..

The MINUTE the 2nd headhunter submits your resume, the company will reject you because they don't want be sued by the 1st headhunter company. There's been many instances where the company decides to cheap out and hire someone directly after they've received the resume from a headhunter. Many headhunter companies have smarten up and put that as a clause. If they can prove that the company hired you AFTER the headhunter submitted your resume then they have a claim for breach of contract. That is the case even if your resume came through another agency.

Since the first agency already presented your resume, you have no choice but to tell the 2nd company that you're already being represented.

[Cyber6]

Yup, I too have experienced this first hand..

The MINUTE the 2nd headhunter submits your resume, the company will reject you because they don't want be sued by the 1st headhunter company. There's been many instances where the company decides to cheap out and hire someone directly after they've received the resume from a headhunter. Many headhunter companies have smarten up and put that as a clause. If they can prove that the company hired you AFTER the headhunter submitted your resume then they have a claim for breach of contract. That is the case even if your resume came through another agency.

Since the first agency already presented your resume, you have no choice but to tell the 2nd company that you're already being represented.

I am quite confused here. How the 1st headhunter is going to sue ANYTHING if they haven't even draft a contract with the OP ?????

OP... first of all.. verbal contracts DON'T MEAN SQUAT !!!!. Unless you have years working with this specific headhunter and you trust her 100%... don't trust anything until you sign the dotted line.


C.

[saltypig]

I am quite confused here. How the 1st headhunter is going to sue ANYTHING if they haven't even draft a contract with the OP ?????

OP... first of all.. verbal contracts DON'T MEAN SQUAT !!!!. Unless you have years working with this specific headhunter and you trust her 100%... don't trust anything until you sign the dotted line.


C.

The contract is not with the OP. The contract is between the recruiting agency and the potential employer of the OP. Once the agency finds someone suitable and is hired then the employer pays the agency. Since the agency first submitted the resume they will get the finders fee. If another agency submits the same resume and gets the fee instead then the first agency may sue the employer for breach of contract.

[dealtacular]

Nothing is legal until you sign the papers - so it's perfectly OK for the OP to back out.

Ethics and the law are different things...

[fly]

The contract is not with the OP. The contract is between the recruiting agency and the potential employer of the OP. Once the agency finds someone suitable and is hired then the employer pays the agency. Since the agency first submitted the resume they will get the finders fee. If another agency submits the same resume and gets the fee instead then the first agency may sue the employer for breach of contract.

Yup, I thought I was clear that the contract was with the employer....

Another time, the company found my resume in their database and tried to pull a fast one on the agency (who had my latest resume). That also didn't end pretty and my scheduled interview was suddenly canceled and I was told I was no longer qualified. It was a Bank, too! Stupid HR was probably embarrassed that they didn't find a match even though they had my resume on file.

[don242]

Wait till you get the offer in your hands. Then negotiate for the higher pay.