anyone know about George Brown Co op proram?

[katelee]

Hello, is there anyone who knows about George Brown College? I got a University degree, but got no luck to get into my desired industry, financial industry, so I am thinking about going to college for post graduate program, two semester plus a work term?

so anyone knows anything about the post gtaduate co op program in Goerge Brown? are they good? how bout the placement RATE and future career?

thanks a lot

[dandy2008]

George Brown College ????

There are many who passed all 3 CFA levels in Toronto and also can't get a "qualifying" job in the financial industry.

[katelee]

I see, I did not pass any CFA, I think they are overqualified for most jobs, experience is also important

that's why I am aksing, if no one get the luck, why the program is still running?

I just want to get a low end financial job and will probably take CFA with my work experience growing

does anyone has hany idea?

thanks

[red120]

Trying to get a finance job right now is like trying to down an elephant with a Ruger 22.

Trying to get a finance job in Toronto right now is like trying to do the same thing, except the elephant is now on phetamines.

What are you looking for with regards to low-end? Back-office stuff? The market still isn't very good.. but give us a better idea of what you're looking for.

[katelee]

thank you for your input,

I am saying is that if you get CSC, and search on workopolis, there are many positions require that and although the economics is bad now, the banking industry is still recruiting, but I really do not know how is the market really like,

that's why I need some advice

I am doing admin with salary lower than 30k, will anything worse happen after I get CSC?

[red120]

No, I'm pretty sure no CSC-requirement job will have less than 30k a year.

FSR should be around 35k+bonus.. someone can correct me if I'm off-point here.

Fund accountant should be around 35-38k.

You can also try to get into executive admin, maybe using your CSC to indicate interest in the industry. Pay is generally upwards of 45k. I believe most of the ones in our office are getting 50-55k. Depends on your experience and effectiveness. Looks doesn't hurt either.

Finance is still iffy right now, though, and will be for a good, long time.

Bank job advertisements are always up, but it's quite hard to get a foot in the door unless you are going for telemarketing, etc. work. One of my friends got offered to start as a casual part-time CSR (16 hours a week), with no timeline for promotion. Back in the day I got offered something similar as well, but without guaranteed hours at all.. and we were both university graduates. Pretty lame.

[katelee]

the samething,my classmates are going IG to sell insurance to get experience

do you have any idea what I should do? work and get CSC during weekedn? or get accouting courses during weekend?

telemarketing is stressful is only based on commission

going to college now is good or bad idea now?
thanks again

[red120]

SL/IG/etc. cold-calling or relationship based MLM right now are a waste of time in this market environment. You don't learn much doing those jobs as it is, and they definitely won't be selling well (if at all) with everyone's purse strings this tight.

Depends on where you want to be in 5 years, where you want to be in 10 years. Are you just looking for money? Or do you want to be in a certain field, or in a certain job?

Exec. admin as I mentioned is a decent paying job in-line with your experience, but if you want to shift into the professional sector, you'll have to get either more education or certs. You mentioned accounting.. CSC is not useful for that. More interested in accounting or finance?

[katelee]

I want to find myself a career path, that is with the growth of my experience and qualification, my pay increases and my position is stable

if I do accouting, eventually, I may could get either CGA or CA

If I enrolled in finance, I probably can take CFA,
both seems to be more secure and stable and with nice pay in the future

To be honest, I do not know much about the industry

If you are already in the industry, why do not you give me some advice, I'd appreciate that

executive admin, maybe after ten years, with my current experience, it is a dream

thanks

[red120]

Check your PMs.

[dandy2008]

Interesting article about the CFA

CFA holders becoming commonplace

According to Peter Simon, a finance officer with executive search firm Spencer Stuart, the CFA doesn't distinguish candidates to the degree it once did and has, in fact, become the baseline credential for anybody looking to become an investment analyst or to manage any substantial amount of money.

"We actually don't care about the content of the CFA," says Simon. "It's increasingly just a ticket to the game."

http://www.advisor.ca/news/article.jsp?content=20070913_145835_6004

[dandy2008]

Katelee, I suggest to pass the CSC and see how it goes from there.
It takes two weeks to three months to prepare for the CSC depending on your knowledge and how many hours of studying you are willing to put in.

[KonaHeiHei]

I work in Insurance. I've been pondering if taking the CSC is a wise move. I'm more than willing to study. I might use it for personal investment (is this overkill?). My understanding is the course/exam is about $1,000.

I won't be working in banking in the -foreseeable- future, but I'd see the CSC as being leverage for other jobs/on the resume and future proofing.

[danielribas]

I have two questions:

The George Brown Co op / postgrad is considered second tier ?

I have a communications degree (outside of Canada and not recognized) and I am moving into business. I think I want to pursuit a first tier / stellar MBA, like Rotman, Schulich or even UCLA in the USA. Do you think the George Brown degree could frustate my plans to do that ? If yes, should be better to do another undegraduate degree (maybe I can transfer 2 years of credits) at a good school like University Toronto / Rotman?