View Full Version : Best Home Phone Company? (not VOIP)
zoolander
Sep 30th, 2008, 12:30 AM
Teksavvy, Wintel (Costco), Primus, Rogers, Bell, etc...
Emancipated
Sep 30th, 2008, 12:34 AM
I think Rogers started offering phones over their coaxial lines now. I don't know the quality though versus bell RJ11.
zoolander
Sep 30th, 2008, 11:14 PM
Anyone use Teksavvy's?
$21.48/mon
0.029c/min North America long distance
extra features $3/each (call display, call waiting, etc)
Includes Touch Tone Fee
Includes 911 Fee
Includes 900/976 Blocking
Includes Collect Call Blocking
Includes Unlimited Local Calling
$25 activation fee.
No contract (http://www.teksavvy.com/en/nhomephone2.asp?ID=7&mID=1) (info link)
nites
Sep 30th, 2008, 11:50 PM
Try magic jack for calls to US and Canada. They seem to be pretty good. It is used via internet connection. Also Acanac has some pretty good deals.
sketchED
Sep 30th, 2008, 11:56 PM
Primus, Triple value bundle $59.99 (Home phone 9 features, UL North American long distance & High speed internet) on a 2 year contract
brunes
Oct 1st, 2008, 07:30 AM
Er... just FYI every company you listed except Bell *IS* VOIP.
VOIP doesn't mean whatever you think it means. The I in VOIP does not stand for Internet it stands for "IP".
Also just another FYI Bell and all NA telcos use VOIP or some other digital mechanism internally to route all your calls anyway, so technically there is no such thing as a 100% true non-VOIP telco anymore.
We use Vonage - dirt cheap, 100% reliable, beats the pants off everyone you listed.
zoolander
Oct 1st, 2008, 10:10 AM
So when companies advertise "Home Phone Service", do they still mean the line is operable during a blackout, and it is still a direct 911 router that does not require registration?
I was under the impression "Home Phone" also conveyed using your existing landline hardware.
Doesn't VoIP officially stand for Voice over Internet Protocol?
Are these VoIP issues relevant?
* Available bandwidth
* Network Latency
* Packet loss
* Jitter
* Echo
* Security
* Reliability
* In rare cases, decoding of pulse dialing
SimSV
Oct 1st, 2008, 10:54 AM
Er... just FYI every company you listed except Bell *IS* VOIP.
VOIP doesn't mean whatever you think it means. The I in VOIP does not stand for Internet it stands for "IP".
Also just another FYI Bell and all NA telcos use VOIP or some other digital mechanism internally to route all your calls anyway, so technically there is no such thing as a 100% true non-VOIP telco anymore.
We use Vonage - dirt cheap, 100% reliable, beats the pants off everyone you listed.
Er... the I in "IP" stands for Internet
Teksavvy and Primus both offer landline, the very same landline that Bell is using. They also have VoIP service for cheaper. Rogers also has landline, but they use their cable network, completely separate from Internet.
I am in the process of switching to Teksavvy from Bell. No comment on how good it is yet but I know it is not VoIP.
Cas77
Oct 1st, 2008, 11:23 AM
I am in the process of switching to Teksavvy from Bell. No comment on how good it is yet but I know it is not VoIP.
I did that switch earlier this week. Can't say much about the service yet...but the switch itself was seamless.
DragonZealot
Oct 1st, 2008, 11:27 AM
For POTS basic (no call display, nothing) I have yet to find a better plan than Bell.
$25.16 tax in for TO.
Cas77
Oct 1st, 2008, 11:53 AM
For POTS basic (no call display, nothing) I have yet to find a better plan than Bell.
$25.16 tax in for TO.
24.27 tax in w/Teksavvy
zoolander
Oct 1st, 2008, 11:56 AM
Er... the I in "IP" stands for Internet
Teksavvy and Primus both offer landline, the very same landline that Bell is using. They also have VoIP service for cheaper. Rogers also has landline, but they use their cable network, completely separate from Internet.
I am in the process of switching to Teksavvy from Bell. No comment on how good it is yet but I know it is not VoIP.
That's what I thought.
I'm not really concerned with the digital mechanism or technical details Brunes mentioned that is occurring within the company.
Moreso, I am interested in a cheaper alternative using my existing landline hardware and the advantages of having a landline without the common problems inherent in true VoIP.
DragonZealot
Oct 1st, 2008, 01:17 PM
24.27 tax in w/Teksavvy
The exchange that I am on (416-284) costs $22.28 on Teksavvy. I tried many 416 exchanges and they all came up $22.28. This brings the total to $25.18 tax in which is more expensive than Bell.
Teksavvy basic POTS line starts from $21.48 + taxes but I don't know which exchange can use this price.
There is also a $25 Activation Fee.
I'll pass Teksavvy for now :arrowu:
mudman24
Oct 1st, 2008, 01:27 PM
For a basic line I pay $18.46 with Bell
DragonZealot
Oct 1st, 2008, 02:46 PM
For a basic line I pay $18.46 with Bell
You talked to their retention department and got this.
zoolander
Oct 1st, 2008, 08:11 PM
For a basic line I pay $18.46 with Bell
My Bell bill:
Residence line $18.48
City calling area expansion 0.30
Call display $8.95
Call display rate increase 0.86
911 0.19
Touch-tone $2.80
=$31.58+tax
I'm going to try Bell's retention dept first but...
Teksavvy=$21.48+$3 Call display=$24.48+tax
fastlayne
Oct 1st, 2008, 08:27 PM
My Bell bill:
Residence line $18.48
City calling area expansion 0.30
Call display $8.95
Call display rate increase 0.86
911 0.19
Touch-tone $2.80
=$31.58+tax
I'm going to try Bell's retention dept first but...
Teksavvy=$21.48+$3 Call display=$24.48+tax
Wow, call display is a whopping 50% of the monthly line cost.
Bell can maintain a copper pair to my door for $18.48, but a software feature is $9. No wonder I don't subscribe to any of the "features".
I remember when you could bundle 4 or 5 features for $5/month (not including the invisible answering machine). And don't get me started on the "touch-tone" fee.
Tha_Doggg
Oct 1st, 2008, 10:59 PM
I'm with Bell as well (basic service no call display or anything). $21.47 + tax. I want to get Call Display but it's such a ripoff through Bell. TekSavvy is a bit better but there is an activation fee and if I'm not mistaken if you move they charge you some more again.
zoolander
Oct 1st, 2008, 11:50 PM
link Costco (Wintel) (http://www.win-tel.ca/costco/index_en.html#1) doesn't serve my area yet...
$25.95+0.40 911= $26.30+tax, includes one calling feature.
1st month free+$15 sign up bonus.
Executive members get 60 minutes/month free long distance anytime within N.A.
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