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BobyYoo
Sep 29th, 2008, 03:49 PM
What is the procedure to install tire with TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring system)?
why tire shop charge more to install tires with TPMS?
why dealer said you can only replace tire at the dealer because they are the only one with equipment?
where is the TPMS in my car (corolla 2009)
Can I buy a set of rims and tires and install them on my car myself??
oldsnail
Sep 29th, 2008, 03:56 PM
tpms is usually in the tire,..some are stems.. some on the rim .. if something is wrong, it will send an error to the car and displayed on the dash..
maybe they have to sychronize/reset the computers?
ES_Revenge
Sep 29th, 2008, 04:01 PM
why tire shop charge more to install tires with TPMS?
why dealer said you can only replace tire at the dealer because they are the only one with equipment?
where is the TPMS in my car (corolla 2009)
Can I buy a set of rims and tires and install them on my car myself??
Speaking of a pressure-based TPMS system where stem sensors are used (as opposed to an ABS sensor system where there is no additional hardware)....
If we're talking about getting new TPMS sensors for another set of wheels then yeah it's gonna be pricey to get a set of four more sensors and have them coded to the vehicle. They are typically $75-$150 each, though you can pick up used ones on eBay easily enough.
If you're talking about just changing tyres on the same wheels that already have the factory TPMS sensors on them, then it's just a cash grab IMO...
They simply have to be more careful (can't break the valve stem, have to unscrew it instead; have to be more careful mounting and unmounting the tyre) and they may have to reset the sensors/system but that's about it. In other words it takes a few more minutes, yet some places charge some crazy amounts per tyre to work with TPMS-equipped wheels.
Granted if a reset/recoding has to be done they did have to invest in some expensive shop equipment that performs this on different vehicles, but still I don't think crazy stuff like $12-$15 more per tyre is warranted, especially when they don't have to replace the valve stem as they would with a normal tyre/wheel (less parts). TPMS sensors can have their seals replaced though, but it's not 100% necessary and even if they are doing that I can't imagine the seals cost much more than normal valve stems.
To answer your second question, if you buy a set of wheels (without new TPMS sensors) and install them that will work fine but you will get the TPMS indicator light come on in your instrument panel and you will not have pressure monitoring available to warn you of low pressures. You won't be able to get that light off unless you get TPMS sensors and have them coded/added to your car.
spf1971
Sep 29th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Depending upon the car, you have to re-register the sensors to which wheel they are on. Some vehicles don't care but with others you have to reprogram the computer to know where the sensors are. So there is more work involved in changing them.
bionicbadger
Sep 29th, 2008, 05:59 PM
Depending upon the car, you have to re-register the sensors to which wheel they are on. Some vehicles don't care but with others you have to reprogram the computer to know where the sensors are. So there is more work involved in changing them.
Yeah you will probably have to get the sensors registered everytime you swap tires (summer/winter) and it will end up costing you each time. If you can live with the light on your dash being on for half a year (while you have winter tires on), you'll save a bunch of money.
spf1971
Sep 29th, 2008, 06:09 PM
I know Ford supplies you with a small transmitter that you use to register the tires with their individual position. If you're the least bit handy and can follow instructions, you can do it yourself. I don't know what other manufactures do. If you have a second set of rims with sensors, you could swap them yourself for free. Of course a replacement set of sensors for the second rims could cost $200-$300 or more.
BobyYoo
Sep 29th, 2008, 06:53 PM
Speaking of a pressure-based TPMS system where stem sensors are used (as opposed to an ABS sensor system where there is no additional hardware)....
If we're talking about getting new TPMS sensors for another set of wheels then yeah it's gonna be pricey to get a set of four more sensors and have them coded to the vehicle. They are typically $75-$150 each, though you can pick up used ones on eBay easily enough.
If you're talking about just changing tyres on the same wheels that already have the factory TPMS sensors on them, then it's just a cash grab IMO...
They simply have to be more careful (can't break the valve stem, have to unscrew it instead; have to be more careful mounting and unmounting the tyre) and they may have to reset the sensors/system but that's about it. In other words it takes a few more minutes, yet some places charge some crazy amounts per tyre to work with TPMS-equipped wheels.
Granted if a reset/recoding has to be done they did have to invest in some expensive shop equipment that performs this on different vehicles, but still I don't think crazy stuff like $12-$15 more per tyre is warranted, especially when they don't have to replace the valve stem as they would with a normal tyre/wheel (less parts). TPMS sensors can have their seals replaced though, but it's not 100% necessary and even if they are doing that I can't imagine the seals cost much more than normal valve stems.
To answer your second question, if you buy a set of wheels (without new TPMS sensors) and install them that will work fine but you will get the TPMS indicator light come on in your instrument panel and you will not have pressure monitoring available to warn you of low pressures. You won't be able to get that light off unless you get TPMS sensors and have them coded/added to your car.
thanks, that answer all my questions
mr_raider
Sep 30th, 2008, 03:04 PM
I dunno about your Corolla, but Lexus sensors are made by pacific, and they are a *****. While anyone one can install them only the dealer can program your car to recognize a new set. Fortunately most cars a have settings for two sets of sensors, so it only needs to be programmed once.
Tirerack.com sells Toyota compatible TPMS, and I bought my set from them. Their TPMS sensors were far cheaper than anything the dealer could offer.
gheart008
Sep 30th, 2008, 03:22 PM
Tirerack.com sells Toyota compatible TPMS, and I bought my set from them. Their TPMS sensors were far cheaper than anything the dealer could offer.
I think you mean cheaper than anything the dealer WOULD offer. :lol:
I'm sure they could offer it to you cheaper, it's just that they won't, hence the stealership name.
BobyYoo
Sep 30th, 2008, 04:46 PM
someone checked with the dealer and said it is $350 for a set of 4 sensors.
BobyYoo
Sep 30th, 2008, 04:47 PM
I dunno about your Corolla, but Lexus sensors are made by pacific, and they are a *****. While anyone one can install them only the dealer can program your car to recognize a new set. Fortunately most cars a have settings for two sets of sensors, so it only needs to be programmed once.
Tirerack.com sells Toyota compatible TPMS, and I bought my set from them. Their TPMS sensors were far cheaper than anything the dealer could offer.
so you bought a set of sensor from tirerack.
You had to go to the dealer to program them? how much do they charge to program?
mr_raider
Oct 1st, 2008, 02:53 PM
so you bought a set of sensor from tirerack.
You had to go to the dealer to program them? how much do they charge to program?
I went to Toyota, and they charged 42.50$ Lexus wanted 200$ per TPMS sensor, and 1 hour of labor to program!
Menace
Oct 1st, 2008, 04:14 PM
Do you have to go back to program them every time you mount/dismount?
I went to Toyota, and they charged 42.50$ Lexus wanted 200$ per TPMS sensor, and 1 hour of labor to program!
Pete_Coach
Oct 1st, 2008, 04:20 PM
Do you have to go back to program them every time you mount/dismount?
The system has to be reset or registered. On some vehicles you can do this with a combination of key positions and trip reset button pushes. Check your owners manual or ask your dealer for your specific car and model.
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