Canadian Tire Deals for this week

[sam100]

Some of the highlighted deals from canadian tire flyer this week . If it's already posted i appologize for that

soyo 32 inch LCD $ 499
Entergy Saving Bulbs at discoutned price after rebate coupans (coupans available in store for many energy saving products )
Pennzoil 3.7 Liter Jug $11 (2$ off quaker state oil Filer)
heavy duty Dolly $24.99 reg 49.99

[Hot Ice]

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[Hot Ice]

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[sam100]

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Thanks for Posting Flyer

[Kaitlyn]

I'm looking for a vacuum...

can anyone comment on this Shark one (http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444327 3574&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672734&bmUID=1222433687166&deptid=1408474396672676&ctgrid=1408474396672681&subctgrid=1408474396672734) which is $20 off?

[chadw01]

Thanks Hot Ice.. guess ag2000 is taking a week off!

I'm looking for a handvac too.. what's the best one on the market right now for the price?

I doubt it's this CT one on sale..

[willy]

Energy meter is on sale too ... http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=140847439 6676714&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443279714&bmUID=1222427505555&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true

http://www.canadiantire.ca/media/images/products/images/Assortments/PrimaryAssortments/HomeCareDecor/Electrical/Testers/0528851_450_CC_v1_m56577569830723999.jpg

[camp1980]

I'm looking for a vacuum...

can anyone comment on this Shark one (http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444327 3574&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672734&bmUID=1222433687166&deptid=1408474396672676&ctgrid=1408474396672681&subctgrid=1408474396672734) which is $20 off?

I have had one for a few years. Works great on anything but carpet. The canister is not very large and so you have to change it frequently and also the cord is WAY to short so you have to keep changing where it is plugged in.

I would buy this again if I still lived in my small little apartment with hardwood floors but not now that I have a whole house to vacuum.

[tomtomtom]

"Canada's Tire Expert" - My ass to that

The other deals are great, thx op:)

[ASharp]

Energy meter is on sale too ... http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=140847439 6676714&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443279714&bmUID=1222427505555&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true

Oh hey, nice. Thanks for the tip willy. Been meaning to pick one up and now there's even more incentive.

[Hunchbehr]

anyone know if the flyer starts friday or saturday? Couldn't find it on the flyer.

thanks again for the post, couple things I was waiting on that are on sale!

Ben

[can2000]

Thanks OP!

[willy]

anyone know if the flyer starts friday or saturday? Couldn't find it on the flyer.

thanks again for the post, couple things I was waiting on that are on sale!

Ben
Sale prices are on today.

[champlinD]

anyone know if the flyer starts friday or saturday? Couldn't find it on the flyer.

thanks again for the post, couple things I was waiting on that are on sale!

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[Hunchbehr]

thanks! I skimmed right over that I guess.

[Tornado F2]

Thanks for Posting Flyer

Did you need to REPOST it?:)

(Hint: Edit your post to remove the image references in the quote)

[1xTiMeR]

Anyone have prior experience with the Sayo HDTV?

[daftfunk]

I'm looking for a vacuum...

can anyone comment on this Shark one (http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444327 3574&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672734&bmUID=1222433687166&deptid=1408474396672676&ctgrid=1408474396672681&subctgrid=1408474396672734) which is $20 off?

Have it... Good for hard floors only. I keep it upstairs for the bathroom tile floors.

[HowEver]

When Canadian Tire changes their return policy from "f u" to something reasonable, I'll shop there again... until then, these aren't deals. Even if the merchandise is faulty, you're stuck with it.

[Tornado F2]

Anyone have prior experience with the Sayo HDTV?

I have bad experience with Soyo - once they've got your money you'll never hear from them again. AVOID!!!!!

[willy]

When Canadian Tire changes their return policy from "f u" to something reasonable, I'll shop there again... until then, these aren't deals. Even if the merchandise is faulty, you're stuck with it.
Hmmm ... I bought a electric kettle a few months ago. It 'went crazy' (non-stop boilling) after 3 days of normal use. I brought it back and got my full refund ...

[lockec]

Hmmm ... I bought a electric kettle a few months ago. It 'went crazy' (non-stop boilling) after 3 days of normal use. I brought it back and got my full refund ...

I've always found returns at crappy t to be excellent. Never had a major issue.

[Nitroman]

I've always found returns at crappy t to be excellent. Never had a major issue.

Me too. Though I did have a small issue with a Mitre saw, apparantly large power tools are in a different category and aren't supposed to be refundable, just exchange only.

[toronto_slim]

Just a note that the BIOS water bottles are NOT in the Toronto flyer. Neither is the Roadmate BBQ, although the MasterChef knockoff is (reg $119, sale $64)

[alkapone]

I have bad experience with Soyo - once they've got your money you'll never hear from them again. AVOID!!!!!


Stick with the major Brands...why buy B and C grade LCD. Better to buy the 32"CRT" RCA at Walmart for $200 and get a decent pic than Soyo....IMHO.

[gSSEhh]

When Canadian Tire changes their return policy from "f u" to something reasonable, I'll shop there again... until then, these aren't deals. Even if the merchandise is faulty, you're stuck with it.

I'd be interested to hear what the trouble was they gave you.

I've found Canadian Tire's exchange policy to be pretty sweet, being 90 days and all.

[Fanboy]

+1 for never having had a problem with a CT return.

I even made out once when they recalled my 10" mitre w/laser. I bought it for $99.99 (or so) and used it to build my fence. They recalled it and, because I didn't have the receipt anymore, gave me $250 back.

[BobyYoo]

Sale prices are on today.

not if you're in Quebec, it start saturday.

[craig0]

anybody have an opinion on that cordless 24v string trimmer for 1/2 price - $65

[HBP]

+1 for never having had a problem with a CT return.

I even made out once when they recalled my 10" mitre w/laser. I bought it for $99.99 (or so) and used it to build my fence. They recalled it and, because I didn't have the receipt anymore, gave me $250 back.

You mean you scammed them by not telling them $99.99 (or so).

[Tornado F2]

Stick with the major Brands...why buy B and C grade LCD. Better to buy the 32"CRT" RCA at Walmart for $200 and get a decent pic than Soyo....IMHO.

I wasn't recommending them. Like I said, "AVOID!!!"

[pghamak]

anybody have an opinion on that cordless 24v string trimmer for 1/2 price - $65

I've used it all summer and am very pleased. If I don't forget to charge it, I get about 1 hour of battery life. Everything is adjustable - head angle, handle, length ... and the trim line feeds out automatically whenever it breaks. Good value for sure.

[lunaris]

I've used it all summer and am very pleased. If I don't forget to charge it, I get about 1 hour of battery life. Everything is adjustable - head angle, handle, length ... and the trim line feeds out automatically whenever it breaks. Good value for sure.

+1

[gordholio]

Thanks for the post to the OP. These sale prices seem like they should just be the regular prices for most items though.

[willy]

Thanks for the post to the OP. These sale prices seem like they should just be the regular prices for most items though.
It seems to be the 'preferred' pricing strategy for a lot of Canadian stores nowa days ... FS, BB, Staples, OD, CT, NCIX ...

They keep the regular prices way up there. This strategy seems to be working for them ...

[krs]

When Canadian Tire changes their return policy from "f u" to something reasonable, I'll shop there again... until then, these aren't deals. Even if the merchandise is faulty, you're stuck with it.

Would you care to eloborate?

I never had a problem returning something to Canadian Tire and neither has anyone I know.

I just recently, well a few months ago or so, bought a Simonize Pressure Washer (before I read how dissatisfied people were with them).
Anyway - I put the thing together, tried it, found it totally useless and brought it back. It was obviously used, some parts were assembled - in fact I couldn't even get it back in the original box, but CTC gave me a full refund without batting an eyelash.
Then later someone posted that you are not supposed to get any refunds on pressure washers at all - I didn't know that and nobody at CTC mentioned anything when I bought it.

Mind you, there is no obligation on any retailer to accept a return unless the item is defective or is not suitable for its intended use, but if a retailer publishes a return policy - he has to abide by it.

[krs]

Does anyone have experience with the 6L water-efficient toilets that are advertised?

I was in the market for one about two years ago and ended up buying a rather expensive Toto toilet. At the time, the lower cost water-efficient toilets flushed so poorly you had to flush twice and three times totally negating any water savings. The Toto toilet was one of the very few water-efficient ones that actually flushed properly.

I'm now in the market again for a toilet and would like to spend a bit less money on one than the Toto one.
The single piece stonehouse toilet in the flyer looks very nice, but how well does it work?????????

[champlinD]

I am buying this one.

Energy Meter (http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=140847439 6676714&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443279714&bmUID=1222711128535&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true)

Sale: $17.49


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[rothmaniac]

Any comments on the wind generator? I have my doubts that this technology is really ready for prime time, but I am interested. It's something that would be used only in the summer, in an area with average wind. What is the life span? How hard is to install and maintain? What could I expect to be the monthly energy savings? Can I get a better price? Anybody with experience out there?

[JVM]

I am buying this one.

Energy Meter (http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=140847439 6676714&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443279714&bmUID=1222711128535&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true)

Sale: $17.49


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FYI...

All Hamilton area libraries have these, you check them out like a book and get 3 weeks to use it.

[duster]

A kind of "Kill-O-Watts" for 17$...nice!

[duster]

Would you care to eloborate?

I never had a problem returning something to Canadian Tire and neither has anyone I know.

I just recently, well a few months ago or so, bought a Simonize Pressure Washer (before I read how dissatisfied people were with them).
Anyway - I put the thing together, tried it, found it totally useless and brought it back. It was obviously used, some parts were assembled - in fact I couldn't even get it back in the original box, but CTC gave me a full refund without batting an eyelash.
Then later someone posted that you are not supposed to get any refunds on pressure washers at all - I didn't know that and nobody at CTC mentioned anything when I bought it.

Mind you, there is no obligation on any retailer to accept a return unless the item is defective or is not suitable for its intended use, but if a retailer publishes a return policy - he has to abide by it.

Same here...never had a single problem returning items @ CT.

Everytime I tried, all i had to say is "it doesn't do it" and then, refunded.

I always found it was their greatest advantage.

[Nitroman]

Any comments on the wind generator? I have my doubts that this technology is really ready for prime time, but I am interested. It's something that would be used only in the summer, in an area with average wind. What is the life span? How hard is to install and maintain? What could I expect to be the monthly energy savings? Can I get a better price? Anybody with experience out there?

I'm also interested in the answers to these questions. So far the research I've come up with is for profesional installation of big turbines, and those are for like farms or other big area properties (some say min. req. 3 acres land lol). So far I haven't been able to get much info on small home units like this one. Please post more info if you find them, or we can PM each other ;-).

[thush]

thanks op.

[bogey]

http://a116.g.akamai.net/7/116/8068/infinite/www.canadiantire.ca/media/images/products/images/Assortments/PrimaryAssortments/HomeCareDecor/Electrical/Testers/0528851_160_CC_v1_m56577569830723997.jpg (http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444327 9714&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672790&bmUID=1222723062194)

I saw this in store, 1800W resistive max (I hope that "resistive" does not preclude appliances with motors).

Edit: available for borrow in Hamilton libraries eh...nice.

[Nitroman]

Any comments on the wind generator? I have my doubts that this technology is really ready for prime time, but I am interested. It's something that would be used only in the summer, in an area with average wind. What is the life span? How hard is to install and maintain? What could I expect to be the monthly energy savings? Can I get a better price? Anybody with experience out there?

OK I found this blog mentions that you get average 55 kWh per month. http://greenspree.ca/?p=432. Here in Vancouver it's roughly 6.5 cents, so that would mean a savings of around (rounding up) $4 per month, $48 a year. That would mean it would take me 15 years to break even on the cost!!! Is that right? Someone correct me if my math is wrong, but at that rate it doesn't seem very practical to me.

[queball]

Does anyone have experience with the 6L water-efficient toilets that are advertised?

I was in the market for one about two years ago and ended up buying a rather expensive Toto toilet. At the time, the lower cost water-efficient toilets flushed so poorly you had to flush twice and three times totally negating any water savings. The Toto toilet was one of the very few water-efficient ones that actually flushed properly.

I'm now in the market again for a toilet and would like to spend a bit less money on one than the Toto one.
The single piece stonehouse toilet in the flyer looks very nice, but how well does it work?????????

There are some testing reports where they rated how well many models of low flow toilets work. Toto still seems to be one of the good performers still. I have one too, going to switch the other 2 in the house in my next round of renovations. I got sick and tired of needing to keep a plunger in the bathroom due to constant plugs in the old cheap model the home builder installed. My old toilets were lower than the minimum performance standard in Appendix C. If you compare an old version of this report to the current one you will see that most of the newest models work really well now. There are a huge number of models that exceed their maximum testing now.

http://www.cuwcc.org/uploads/product/MaP-12th-Edition-08-07-14.pdf
http://www.veritec.ca/uploads/Map%2012th%20Edition.pdf

I love the test methods and how they accurately replicate “real-world” demands upon a toilet fixture. Fake poop indeed. Though I have issue with them only using a 50g size per specimen. I would like to see the performance of overly large individual sizes. What is the physical size of a 99th percentile piece of feces? Still someone has flushed a lot of fake poop to make those charts.

http://www.cuwcc.org/Uploads/product/NAHB_ToiletReport_Sept-2002.pdf
http://www.cuwcc.org/uploads/tech_docs/ULFTs_Commercial.pdf

So print out that list and take it with you shopping. If the model you see rates poorly then move on.

[majesus]

OK I found this blog mentions that you get average 55 kWh per month. http://greenspree.ca/?p=432. Here in Vancouver it's roughly 6.5 cents, so that would mean a savings of around (rounding up) $4 per month, $48 a year. That would mean it would take me 15 years to break even on the cost!!! Is that right? Someone correct me if my math is wrong, but at that rate it doesn't seem very practical to me.

Yup, if you are assuming a 55kWh per month generation of power and that was when the wind turbine located 30m high. It's really hard to know for sure unless you measure the wind at your intended installation spot, you need some observed data... for a few years...

Honestly, as you can see it is a complete waste of money unless it's for some other factor, like you have no grid power to tie into (a cabin in the woods.) Than you can see the advantage.

Why do you think commerical windfarms are not popular in BC. It's much cheaper to use HYDRO.

[can2000]

Would you care to eloborate?

I never had a problem returning something to Canadian Tire and neither has anyone I know.

I just recently, well a few months ago or so, bought a Simonize Pressure Washer (before I read how dissatisfied people were with them).
Anyway - I put the thing together, tried it, found it totally useless and brought it back. It was obviously used, some parts were assembled - in fact I couldn't even get it back in the original box, but CTC gave me a full refund without batting an eyelash.
Then later someone posted that you are not supposed to get any refunds on pressure washers at all - I didn't know that and nobody at CTC mentioned anything when I bought it.

Mind you, there is no obligation on any retailer to accept a return unless the item is defective or is not suitable for its intended use, but if a retailer publishes a return policy - he has to abide by it.

I bought a $400+ gps from CT store A a few days ago, later was trying to return it to CT store B. Store B rejected to do that and asked me to return to where I bought it. Btw, the GPS is unopened. :confused: :mad:

[krs]

So print out that list and take it with you shopping. If the model you see rates poorly then move on.

Thanks - I had older versions of these reports when I selected the Toto toilet a few years back.

But looking at the latest one, I can't find the Stonehouse one-piece toilet that CTC is advertising this week.
That's the one I'm specifically interested in.
The few reviews on the CTC website are pretty positive, but I would like to get some more info on that unit if possible.

[krs]

I bought a $400+ gps from CT store A a few days ago, later was trying to return it to CT store B. Store B rejected to do that and asked me to return to where I bought it. Btw, the GPS is unopened. :confused: :mad:

Does the published CTC return policy state that you can return an item to any CTC store?

I don't know, but I have returned CTC web store purchases to a CTC store and also purchases from one store to another, both with no problems.
However, CTC stores are individually owned, so I can understand that the return needs to be to the same store where you bought it.

[amana]

I was in CT Shoppers World and they had the Mayfair & Jackson set of four canister sets on sale for $6.97. Regular price was $29.99. I can't find it on the website otherwise I would post a pic. They are yellow and have the clamps on them to seal for freshness.
I though it was a good deal.

[cannon_fodder]

When Canadian Tire changes their return policy from "f u" to something reasonable, I'll shop there again... until then, these aren't deals. Even if the merchandise is faulty, you're stuck with it.

My experience has been much better than yours. As an extreme example, we bought one of those patio canopies for $99. It had the weak metal tube frame and a fabric top. We come home one day to find it in our neighbours yard because the ground stakes that came with canopy came out due to high winds.

We packed it up (as best we could considering that many of the structural rods were bent beyond repair) and took it back to CT. No problem with the refund at all.

I can't remember ever having a problem returning an item to CT.

[just_For_ipod]

I am buying this one.

Energy Meter (http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=140847439 6676714&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443279714&bmUID=1222711128535&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true)

Sale: $17.49


http://a116.g.akamai.net/7/116/8068/infinite/www.canadiantire.ca/media/images/products/images/Assortments/PrimaryAssortments/HomeCareDecor/Electrical/Testers/0528851_160_CC_v1_m56577569830723997.jpg

hmmm..I just got that and it is really hard to plug things into this thing, like the metal inside is really tight and it takes alot of force to get the metal prongs in. Anyone else having this problem? Or perhaps I'm just tired from pulling and plugging things in too much, LOL. I ran around my house pulling things out and plugging them into this thing.
Iinteresting thing I found is for my table fan, it uses about 30watts on low, 35watts on medium, and about 40watts on high. So it would be much more efficient to keep it on max for half an hour to entirely cool myself down, than to keep it on low for an hour.
Also, my computer speakers only use up to 10watts, depend on the volume.

:lol: RFDer at his best :cheesygri

[vitaminJ]

Energy meter is on sale too ... http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=140847439 6676714&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443279714&bmUID=1222427505555&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true

http://www.canadiantire.ca/media/images/products/images/Assortments/PrimaryAssortments/HomeCareDecor/Electrical/Testers/0528851_450_CC_v1_m56577569830723999.jpg

Hey I got one of these last week, guess if i bring it in with the receipt i can get $7 back. However the one i got is in a different white and green package and has only a 1 year, warranty not 3. (same item number)

To the guy who said his socket is too tight (insert laughter here) mine's not, neither particularly loose nor tight.

Funny though, my 27" tv shows zero power use when off, isn't that impossible when at least the infrared receiver must draw some power in order for the remote to be able to turn the tv on...

[cannon_fodder]

OK I found this blog mentions that you get average 55 kWh per month. http://greenspree.ca/?p=432. Here in Vancouver it's roughly 6.5 cents, so that would mean a savings of around (rounding up) $4 per month, $48 a year. That would mean it would take me 15 years to break even on the cost!!! Is that right? Someone correct me if my math is wrong, but at that rate it doesn't seem very practical to me.

Here in Ontario, we have more than just the basic kWh charge. We have an additional premium if we go over a certain limit and there is also a transportation charge as well as a debt reduction charge. If one factors all of those in, I believe our electricity rate at the higher level is closer to 11 cents/kWh.

Perhaps you have the transportation charge as well... might reduce the payback to 11-12 years.

[kellidotca]

I just picked up the 24v yardworks grass trimmer.. of course it's 5 degrees and not exactly lawn weather, but this should be better than borrowing my father's electric trimmer and using a 200ft extension cord.

[brunes]

Yup, if you are assuming a 55kWh per month generation of power and that was when the wind turbine located 30m high. It's really hard to know for sure unless you measure the wind at your intended installation spot, you need some observed data... for a few years...

Honestly, as you can see it is a complete waste of money unless it's for some other factor, like you have no grid power to tie into (a cabin in the woods.) Than you can see the advantage.

Why do you think commerical windfarms are not popular in BC. It's much cheaper to use HYDRO.

Not everything needs to be about $$... some people just wan tot reduce their carbon footprint.

Being green is never as cheap or easy as not being green. If it was cheaper or easier to be green then we wouldn't have a current problem.

EDIT: Personally I have been looking into vertical axis wind turbines, which IMO are much more suited for residential use since they have a small footprint, low wind speed requirements, and can pick up wind in any direction. Here is one example, that costs about 5K and can produce 1kw:

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/wifi-parts_2017_22682507

http://www.wifi-parts.com/seahawk.html

[s1301950]

I've used it all summer and am very pleased. If I don't forget to charge it, I get about 1 hour of battery life. Everything is adjustable - head angle, handle, length ... and the trim line feeds out automatically whenever it breaks. Good value for sure.

I also vouch for that trimmer. Got it for full price (gonna get the difference) but very happy with it. All of good things mentioned plus the quality of the battery. I charged it overnight, and have used it 4 to 5 times without ever touching the charger. Also the battery have an instant battery meter and it's showing 4 out of 5 blocks after all these usages!

But yea, definitely beats the 30$ one that i borrowed from my inlaw and had to use it with a 2 gazillions meter extension cord.

[michelb]

Just curious where the OP gets the scans; I was interested in the 'cruiser-style' bicycles but they are not the local flyer (the page (the one with the kayak at the top) has most of the same items but not all of them ...)

Let us know. Thanks

[majesus]

Not everything needs to be about $$... some people just wan tot reduce their carbon footprint.

If you really want to reduce your carbon footprint, reduce the amount of energy you use. It is so much more effective.

People are under the HUGE impression that changing their method of energy source by going solar or wind reduces their carbon footprint. IT may... it may do the opposite... Besides money, it depends on so many things, energy source, distance, materials available, methods of extraction/manufacturing... etc



Being green is never as cheap or easy as not being green. If it was cheaper or easier to be green then we wouldn't have a current problem.


THe problem with trying to generate energy is that it causes an unbalance one way or another. No matter what we do, there will be a downside... The problem with us humans is that we are trying to extract more and more from our environment. EVEN when we do attempt to be green, it will cause an unbalance:

For example a wind farm in Alberta had a very large number of dead bats in the area. First thing comes to one's mind is COLLISION. But it wasn't the case, the sudden pressure drop from wind turbines nearby caused fatal injuries to their respiratory systems.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x169348
(The Globe and Mail artical isn't free... so I posted a secondary source.)

Don't get me wrong, I'm pro green. My main transportation to work is my bicycle, around town it's my scooter.