Xecuter Light <----Thief.

[sosaductive]

I sent him $35 via EMT for a special edition gears of war game. He said he sent it to me after he received the money, but after 2 weeks i got nothing. He said he went to the post office and the package was lost and was found at some pier or something.....so again i got excited and waited another 2 weeks. Still nothing and now he just ignores my e-mails....I know $35 isnt much but I dont come from a wealthy family...so to me it is a lot of money. I dont know if i can actually do anything to get my money back? because to be honest i feel my whole RFD experience has been soured and i wont ever do any EMT or paypal purchases, I just want my money back......beware RFDers DO NOT deal with this person, he is a liar and a thief.

here is some of the msgs we exchanged on here.

Hey, havent been on RFD for a while. What was the price shipped that I accepted?

if i remember correctly the price was $30, and for an extra $5 u would ship so $35.

ok ive sent u the money, lemme know when u received it and ill give u the answer thing for it. thx again ^^

What's the answer?

the answer is

******

heres my shipping address and stuff.

*******
*******
*******
*******

how long do u think it'd take for me to receive the game? thx again man

Alright thanks, It's a Saturday so the post office is closed. Ill ship it first thing Monday for you and let you know after that should be there withing 2-5 days. Thanks

ok cool, lemme know, thx so much dude ^^

and on e-mail.

Hey, i can see you havent logged onto redflagdeals and read any of the PMs
I sent you. I havent received the game yet, so if something is happening
and you havent sent the game yet can you please send it to me asap. If it
got lost in the mail or you changed your mind about it or something can I
please have my money back so I can buy it from someone else. Thank you.

Hey, I sent you a message on RFD two days ago asking if you've received it.
I don't know why you havent received it, it has been almost two weeks now.
If you dont get it in the next few days then I will give you a full refund.
Thanks.

Hey, I havent received it yet, and its safe to say that something has happened to the game and I wont be receiving it. Maybe you should check the status of the package to see what has happened to it, when you get this can you send me back my money please, Id like to start looking for this game again but I cant without my money lol
My EMT is:
***********
I hope you find out what happened, Thanks Again.

Hey man sorry about this, I am going to the post office tomorrow and I will let you know. If they cant do anything then I will give you a full refund back through EMT. Thanks!

Hey i dont know why u havent gotten back to me about wat the post office said about ur game? but every day that passes gives me a uncomfortable feeling in my tummy that maybe ur not going to refund my money and rip me off :( when you see this can u send me my refund plz, ive been waiting too long now and ive found a few other sellers that have this game and i wanna buy it. send me my $35 back, my EMT is: *************.
thank u.

Hey sorry, Ive been really busy. Can you wait until Friday if you dont get it send me another email because if you dont get it then the game was lost. I will give you a refund if you dont get it by Friday. Thanks

its me again, i waited a bit longer then friday and still nothing. i just found out that part 2 is coming out and id like to pre-order the game with the money i sent u, no more waiting plz its very obvious now that the game isnt coming as its already been 1 month. please send me my refund when you get this e-mail, my EMT is: ***********, and the amount was $35. thanks again and its 2 bad we couldnt get the deal done.

Hey sorry, I will refund your money I need to go to the post office once more though. Can you give me your address?

*******
**********
**************
*********
plz dont disapear on me again and keep me posted.

Alright, I am going to the post office tomorrow sometime afternoon and will try to get a refund. I will refund your money no matter if I get it or not though just please wait another day. If you do get the game please let me know after I give you a refund. Thanks.

I have not received anything. I am waiting for my refund, thank you.

The Game WILL be there FOR SURE monday. It was lost and the post office found it at a loading centre.

OMG YES!!!! :D i cant tell u how happy u just made me! ill keep u posted! thank u so much!

Kk lmk I had to go to the post office maybe 6 times!

and now he just ignores my e-mails.....

[mosk2]

Watch out...he also have another thread asking for EMT payment.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637231

Get his azz banned permanently:evil:

[sosaductive]

Son Of A......

[ultimate_rugal]

His mails seem to lost more often:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/itrader.php?u=61116

I hope you get back your money.

[mosk2]

give him negative feedback if he doesn't refund you your money within 24 hours...you've waited long enough...also get MODS involve to banned this guy.

[Xecuter Light]

LoL, I sent your refund this is ridiculous. Also Canada Post returned the package it was lost. Check your bank and quit with this non sense. Thanks to the mod for letting me know there was this thread about me.

[Xecuter Light]

11 of his 12 Heat came from buying items.

Also, his mails seem to lost more often:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/itrader.php?u=61116

I wish you get back your money.

Ummm, learn how to read 11 of 12 came from me SELLING items. Please before you actually post something, you should actually make sure you know what you are saying.

[sosaductive]

dont lie, dont lie.

http://i33.tinypic.com/s6rdl4.jpg

the highlighted red shows the EMT payment i made to you, everything above it is any and every purchase and deposits made since and the date it was done. if everyone looks closely there has NOT been any money sent back to me from you sir, only a deposit made by myself on July, 31st. so please, give me my refund. good day to you.

p.s. why wouldn't you want to get the deal done anyways if the post office sent back the package? or a better question is why didn't you inform me that the package was returned to you and that "you would be giving me a refund", even though you clearly didn't. an even better question is why you have been ignoring my e-mails. my refund tony, i am waiting for it.

[ultimate_rugal]

You should have refunded his money long time ago, every legit seller would do that. Ignoring pm during a transaction is not a good sign either.

Best of luck. RFD is still a good place.

[mosk2]

it's clear that this guy is a fraud...he publicly lied to you and RFD community. MODS banned this scammer:mad:

[mcg]

I just hope this was a misunderstanding on Xecuter's part, I don't know anyone who would scam for $35. I am sure many can make that amount in 3 hours of work, give or take.

[Xecuter Light]

it's clear that this guy is a fraud...he publicly lied to you and RFD community. MODS banned this scammer:mad:

It's clear that you have no clue what you are talking about. Mods "BAN not banned" this idiot.

[Xecuter Light]

I just hope this was a misunderstanding on Xecuter's part, I don't know anyone who would scam for $35. I am sure many can make that amount in 3 hours of work, give or take.

Exactly.

[mosk2]

do you have any proof that you refunded Sosaductive his money then? yes it's only $35 that's why it's so sad.

you really don't have anything to support your claim that you have refunded the money to Sosaductive. a typo/grammar error on my post does not change the fact that you're a scammer.

[Xecuter Light]

No, me pointing out your typo was just pointing out your stupidity. Another thing, you come in to all my FS threads calling me a scammer and a thief when yet you don't know the whole deal and what has happened on both sides. Yet, you still call me a scammer, idiot. This is in between me and Mario, I stopped responding to his messages because of all his hate mail shortly after he sent me a message saying that he would tell his mom saying his mom would get the police after me. So next time you accuse anyone of being a scammer you should actually think to yourself "Do I know wtf I am talking about?" because you don't. Thanks.:)

Email has been sent to sosaductive, mods can close this thread.

[mosk2]

Sosaductive bank transaction report showed that you have not to date refunded him his money...can you explain that?

[Xecuter Light]

Sosaductive bank transaction report showed that you have not to date refunded him his money...can you explain that?

An agreement was reached to send the game yet again and yes the payment was sent a long time ago. Now you can keep your accusations to yourself. Thank you.:)

[sosaductive]

Ive agreed to have him send me the game, i dont know if it was a smart choice on my part but i am one for second chances. if the mods dont mind id like this thread to be kept open untill the deal is done. thanks to everyone for their support <3

[ultimate_rugal]

If i were you, i would take the money and run.

If someone bump his thread for the item(s) i paid already and waiting for arrival..
hmm.. let me think or do i need to think for doing business with him again? :confused:

There is a high chance that it'll be lost in the mail, good luck op.

[mosk2]

Seems like he has a history of losing items in the mail...On one of his feedback his buyer stated the shipment was lost but got a full refund...Coincidence? I think not. But he might come through this time...Since he's been exposed.

I am still convince that he tried to pull a fast one on Sosaductive...Ignoring numerous PM's is an indication that something is not right.

Hope you get the package or your money back Sosaductive.

[ADRiiAN`]

Question.

With EMT, can you file a complaint to your bank since the transactions go through them?

[mosk2]

Don't think if you can...once you confirmed the transaction that money is gone...you cannot file a claim with your Bank if you get ripped off.

[sosaductive]

xecutor light asked me in an e-mail to conclude this thread by saying we resolved the issue to protect his reputation on RFD and that he would send me the item i paid for. i sent him an email saying that i am hesitant to because i dont trust him, but i will ask the admin to close this thread once i have the item in my hands, and i am even willing to give him a positive feedback when the issue has been resolved. i also asked him when he will send me the item and when i can expect to receive it, i sent him the e-mail on the 27th and am waiting response. will keep this thread updated :)

[sosaductive]

e-mailed me today, said he will try to send it today or tommorow. he said he will let me know.

[7jaii]

e-mailed me today, said he will try to send it today or tommorow. he said he will let me know.

He already has your money. Got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and was combative with other RFDers trying to get your money refunded.

Why are you accepting his schedule? You should be laying down the rules, ie. Xpresspost with photos & tracking number and shipped the first day he renegotiated with you. Any decent seller would make every effort to complete a hassle-free trade and earn your feedback. So why are you so forgiving and offering Positives? A positive equals a enjoyable, safe and satisfactory trade. Having read your story and his replies this doesn't fit a positive feedback.

At the very least, keep this thread open. When you receive and test it for 3-5 days without problems then post a "Neutral" rating with a link to this thread. He's fortunate he's not banned, a "Negative" rating is the least of his worries. Why isn't he trying harder to correct mistakes?

[phomp]

He already has your money. Got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and was combative with other RFDers trying to get your money refunded.

Why are you accepting his schedule? You should be laying down the rules, ie. Xpresspost with photos & tracking number and shipped the first day he renegotiated with you. Any decent seller would make every effort to complete a hassle-free trade and earn your feedback. So why are you so forgiving and offering Positives? A positive equals a enjoyable, safe and satisfactory trade. Having read your story and his replies this doesn't fit a positive feedback.

At the very least, keep this thread open. When you receive and test it for 3-5 days without problems then post a "Neutral" rating with a link to this thread. He's fortunate he's not banned, a "Negative" rating is the least of his worries. Why isn't he trying harder to correct mistakes?

Ditto!

[sosaductive]

your both right, i sent him an e-mail yesterday saying he should sent it asap. i also noticed he was selling the game for $30 instead of the $35 that i paid for it, so i said the extra $5 should make up for the time it takes u to go and ship it. :( still no response from him since September 29, 2008 2:21:01 PM.

[sosaductive]

received an e-mail tonight from him that reads:
"Hey sorry I shipped it yesterday. Let me know when it arrives sorry for the trouble."
anyone have any idea how long it would take for the shipment to be delivered to Toronto from Vancouver?

[ultimate_rugal]

received an e-mail tonight from him that reads:
"Hey sorry I shipped it yesterday. Let me know when it arrives sorry for the trouble."
anyone have any idea how long it would take for the shipment to be delivered to Toronto from Vancouver?

Express 3 business days or less
Regular took me 5 days or less.

He already has your money. Got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and was combative with other RFDers trying to get your money refunded.



+1, seller doesn't deserve a positive feedback.

[mau77on]

received an e-mail tonight from him that reads:
"Hey sorry I shipped it yesterday. Let me know when it arrives sorry for the trouble."
anyone have any idea how long it would take for the shipment to be delivered to Toronto from Vancouver?

5 days and occasionally 7 days

[mosk2]

Sosaductive, what is the verdict?

[sosaductive]

well its only been 3 days since he sent it, and i dont think he sent it express so it should arrive on the 7th-9th. ive e-mailed him today asking for a tracking number though like some of you suggested ^^

[mosk2]

HE doesn't deserve a positive feedback...don't give him one...I would have givin him a negative feedback long time ago if it was me he was dealing with.

[sosaductive]

received an e-mail with the following.
"Didn't pay for a tracking number used the cheapest shipping method should get there the beginning of next week if it hasn't come today."
so i guess i play the waiting game.

[Ruffy]

I just hope this was a misunderstanding on Xecuter's part, I don't know anyone who would scam for $35. I am sure many can make that amount in 3 hours of work, give or take.

$35 x ten people = a reason to scam. I'm not saying he scammed ten people but if you steal small amounts from many people it adds up to be a significant amount. I'm sure you've all heard of unscrupulous software companies who steal small amounts of $20 from people's debit accounts and most people will never notice but the frequency of those transactions all add up to millions of dollars in their pocket.

[BlazinTrini]

received an e-mail with the following.
"Didn't pay for a tracking number used the cheapest shipping method should get there the beginning of next week if it hasn't come today."
so i guess i play the waiting game.

With all the problems going on. I would demand a tracking number at this point.

[acoz]

sosaductive your a Fing IDOIT!!

HE IS SCAMMING YOU!

Your just stupid man.

[sosaductive]

sosaductive your a Fing IDOIT!!

HE IS SCAMMING YOU!

Your just stupid man.

if hes gonna send me anything hes gonna send it, if he didnt have intentions of sending anything from the start then i dunno wat hes gaining from pulling my chain like this. so im giving it a shot.

Update: Tuesday October 7, 2008. nothing. e-mailed him telling him i havent received anything yet, waiting for a response.

[mosk2]

WoW...it's either you're too nice or so stupid:D

[sosaductive]

still nothing. sent him another e-mail.

id like to take a minute to thank everyone whos calling me stupid in this thread, really thank you. by calling me stupid you REALLY are helping me.

[acoz]

Listen, this might be your first online buy/sell, count yourself lucky, $35 isnt much. Some people got scam out of $500+ or $1000+. Learn from this and dont make the same mistake. ALWAYS do a background check, email/username/name/phone number/address/etc.. If worst comes to worst, report to the police or get help.

I was scammed once :evil: it didnt felt good, but i took it as my exp. And i never got scam, so far :cheesygri

[mosk2]

Sosaductive did you get your shipment yet?

[balou911]

Sosaductive did you get your shipment yet?

ditto..

and Xecuter Light, wheres that screenshot with proof that you did send a refund....

[mcg]

Well, I guess I was wrong and he did run away with $35. Shame.

[sosaductive]

i havent received the item yet, ive sent him 2 emails during the week and hes just ignoring me like he was before..:( what can i do now? what should i do now?

[belowzeros]

I've been lurking around this thread since it startded.

I just wanted to add who doesn't use a service with tracking for that type of item/shipment and compounded by the problems talked about in this thread. Maybe it cost a dollar or something more to upgrade from generic parcel to ground or even expedited.

sorry to say man but I think you got scammed. if it shows up I'm going to be really surprised. He should have sent you a copy of the receipt from the tellar worst case. Something smells fishy.

[HBP]

The guy hasn't been back since the 27th, you should have taken the refund when you had the chance/contact. Did you ask for his phone number/details back then?

[Gogi]

Sorry to say, you were scammed.

$35 isn't much, I was scammed $400 for a "deal" I made on here. Great experience, probably would have paid $500 if I had known that it'd give me an exact sense of who to deal with and who to avoid.
:)

The scammer is obviously pathetic. Even if the item arrives (which in this case would be a miracle IMO), I would NEVER deal with this person on here, and I hope he gets banned as soon as possible. We don't need trash on here.

Cheers

[mau77on]

I've been lurking around this thread since it startded.

I just wanted to add who doesn't use a service with tracking for that type of item/shipment and compounded by the problems talked about in this thread. Maybe it cost a dollar or something more to upgrade from generic parcel to ground or even expedited.

sorry to say man but I think you got scammed. if it shows up I'm going to be really surprised. He should have sent you a copy of the receipt from the tellar worst case. Something smells fishy.


AFAIK, all parcel shipments made within canada have tracking. It's when you ship to the US that you have to get expedited shipping or what not.



I was actually THIS close to giving this guy $35 for the game too because i really wanted the game. Sorry to hear that you're currently getting jipped but i also gotta say thanks seductive for putting this thread up because if you didn't then this guy would have been up another 35.

[mosk2]

Xecuter Light Status should be Permanently Banned by now and he should have a Negative Feedback from you.

I'm not really sure what you're waiting for Sosaductive:?: Don't let this scammer get away with it. Take some action man:mad:

[Renton]

AFAIK, all parcel shipments made within canada have tracking. It's when you ship to the US that you have to get expedited shipping or what not.

That's what I thought as well. And they are all insured for up to $100.

[BlazinTrini]

i havent received the item yet, ive sent him 2 emails during the week and hes just ignoring me like he was before..:( what can i do now? what should i do now?

You have his contact info. So report him to the police for Fraud

[sosaductive]

I've sent him an e-mail telling him I want my money and to forget sending me the item. If I don't receive anything by Tuesday I will go ahead and do what I should have done a long time ago. Thanks to everyone for their help and support, I can't thank you enough. Its nice to know there are honest, good people on this site.

[7jaii]

A key to enjoyable trading is good communication. For long-distance trading requiring pre-payment & shipping I recommend buyer/sellers confirming over the phone. Long-distance calls are dirt cheap just pennies a minute. A phone call won't prevent scams but it does confirms a person's ID, address & phone service provider. For large items always request a Land Line and reverse look-up contact info. Sending photos from the post office with tracking number is even better.

Xecuter Light could have reassured sosaductive and phoned with updates. Ignoring 1 PM is bad enough but to let this drag out so long is crazy. Wouldn't he want to keep track of this thread and make sure his package arrived?

When a trade goes so wrong that it warrants a Scammers & Warnings thread - Wouldn't a seller want to resolve it correctly and repair his reputation? This is what RFDers are suggesting - it's not the $35. A seller should treat all buyers with the same respect & attention whether they spend $10 or $600.

sosaductive -> wait for your package tomorrow. If it doesn't arrive you must post Xecuter Light's full contact info so RFDers can avoid him (in case he creates multiple accounts). Even if your purchase arrives this was a very poor trade and deserves a negative. Dude, would you give me $35 and let me treat you like crap and ignore you, pretend to care, lie to you about shipping, ignore you again, reply, ignore, ignore and nothing...of course you wouldn't so don't allow Xecuter Light to kick you in the nuts repeatedly.

[olympic]

You can still ship small items(like a CD) in envelopes with just regular postage, no tracking. Anything shipped in a box automatically gets tracking and $100 insurance.

[sosaductive]

This ruined my day to be honest.

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On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:41 PM, <supremeboxer@hotmail.com> wrote:

I am giving you until Tuesday to give me a refund as it is VERY clear that you are jerking me around, playing me for a fool. You have until Tuesday, if I don't receive my refund by then I will go ahead and tell the admins on RFD to go on with banning your account and any other account that you may have made, and I will personally give you negative feedback both on heatware and RFD. I just can't believe you would actually stoop this low, what was the point of e-mailing me again? why would you lie to me again? do you feel good when you make someone else feel like ****? whatever Tony. Tuesday, my money. And apparently I can take legal action against you, I will also be looking into that if I don't get my money by Tuesday. Good day to you.
Mario.
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From : Tony Fernandes <tonyfernandess@gmail.com>
Sent : October 13, 2008 6:03:54 PM
To : <supremeboxer@hotmail.com>
Subject : Re: final notice


LoL..... Take legal actions on me. Please.
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he finally replied.

[mosk2]

You had been very considerate Sosaductive and thank you for sharing your experience...I'm sure RFD community can benefit from this thread.

Finally another scammer is Permanently Banned.

[mcg]

... I don't get some people... $35... this guy is sad. I regret saying this too, considering how understanding he was before (apparently not).

[7jaii]

This ruined my day to be honest.
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From : Tony Fernandes <tonyfernandess@gmail.com>
Sent : October 13, 2008 6:03:54 PM
To : <supremeboxer@hotmail.com>
Subject : Re: final notice


LoL..... Take legal actions on me. Please.

Finally another scammer is Permanently Banned.

... I don't get some people... $35... this guy is sad. I regret saying this too, considering how understanding he was before (apparently not).

So update your first post with Tony's full info to prevent multiple accounts and future scams. Support RFDers as we've supported you. Promote this thread and make sure RFDers know Tony's a scammer.

[BlazinTrini]

you can even have him charged for fraud if you take it to the police
he probably thinks your not going to do a thing since he told you to go ahead

[ultimate_rugal]

I have told op before to take the money and run. at that time scammer was in a two way situation- scamming for $35 or save reputation. he might as well go for the later. But week later he/she realized that "enough" damage has been done and there is no place for him/her in this forum anyway, so he/she kept the money.

A good lesson learned, "hit the iron when it's red"

[phomp]

yeah, post up his info so no one deals with this tool.

[Kherani]

File a complaint with Paypal.

[riceboy6]

File a complaint with Paypal.

All transactions were done through EMT, what does this have to do with paypal.....

[mcg]

:lol:

[jaemes]

Looks like he's been perm. banned.
I was also interested in the Gears CE, good thing I didn't budge.
Picked one up from someone on RFD locally instead.

Hope you get your copy, Gears CE is a must have for all GoW fans.

[Kherani]

All transactions were done through EMT, what does this have to do with paypal.....

I thought Paypal was Electronic Money Transfer.

[watching]

:eek:

How are buyers/sellers protected from thieves when buying or selling through this forum? :confused:

[tienm23]

He's on Facebook, maybe we can shame him by sending links of this thread to his friends.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3202/s503911825515.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s503911825515.jpg)