Morton's Deal Vancouver

[smacd]

Nice menu for $119 for 2. http://mortons-steakhouse.com/ss7/web/index.cfm
Don't forget to tip!

[LonesomeDove]

Not for members of PETA or vegetarians or Pamela Anderson :D.

[selpats]

Thanks OP, mmmmm steak....

[3weddings]

Not for members of PETA or vegetarians or Pamela Anderson :D.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: here we go again!

Checking to see if Toronto has the deal...need a good meal!!

[mackdaddy]

thanks a lot OP
perfect timing
2 yr anniv w/ the gf = Sept 27th :cheesygri just on time :D

[chris103610]

Nice menu for $119 for 2. http://mortons-steakhouse.com/ss7/web/index.cfm
Don't forget to tip!

the site says $99 not $119?
am i missing something?

with tax it would still only be ~113$

[cheeseshredder]

the site says $99 not $119?
am i missing something?

with tax it would still only be ~113$

Scroll down and read the fine print.

[miss_swan]

What is a "single cut fillet"? in Morton-speak?

Ribeye? Tenderloin? Strip?

[Stranger]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: here we go again!

Checking to see if Toronto has the deal...need a good meal!!

I don't see Toronto on the list. Has anyone called?

[SMARTT]

If anyone interested, i have a $100 GC from Morton ... lmk!

[the brother]

I don't see Toronto on the list. Has anyone called?


try the OP's link :cheesygri

[Kate M]

Posted, thanks! Sounds like a great deal.

[miss_swan]

I don't see Toronto on the list. Has anyone called?

Ya gotta read the fine print ... 99 bucks everywhere except for a couple of places. One of them under "Canada" is Vancouver at 119 ... there is no Toronto listed under this promotion.

So, you'll have to fly out to Vancouver or check out some of the Michigan locations ... or New York ... or perhaps Pennsylvania ....

[Shearer]

tried it last year. the seafood is awesome, the steak was crap

[low dealz]

Ya gotta read the fine print ... 99 bucks everywhere except for a couple of places. One of them under "Canada" is Vancouver at 119 ... there is no Toronto listed under this promotion.

So, you'll have to fly out to Vancouver or check out some of the Michigan locations ... or New York ... or perhaps Pennsylvania ....

It is available in toronto. Signup for the email list and get the coupon. Otherwise, here it is and the link for the toronto location.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5612/33267558up9.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=33267558up9.jpg)

Link for locations:
http://www.mortons-steakhouse.com/ss7/certificate.cfm?ID=&MI=322322

[Kate M]

Good find! The Toronto location was not listed yesterday, it must be a new addition! I'll update the deal post with this information.

[number8888]

I think offer is good for Toronto as well.

If you go to the Toronto page on the website the offer shows up on the sidebar.

http://www.mortons.com/location_detail.php?pageid=location_detail&idlocation=78

[Amourek]

What is a "single cut fillet"? in Morton-speak?

Ribeye? Tenderloin? Strip?

Fillet = tenderloin unless they're using their own nomenclature.

[gadogry]

Hmm, maybe I'm sounding like a total cheapskate, but why is $60 + tax + tips per head considered a good deal? You get your regular steak, and shrimp and crab cakes are among the most ordinary seafood entrees. The salad and dessert don't blow me away either.

So... what differentiates Morton's from the other "regular" fine-dining places at which such a dinner for $60/head would NOT be considered a good deal?

[squall458]

If anyone interested, i have a $100 GC from Morton ... lmk!

Trade for a $100 chapters card?

[SiuBun]

Hmm, maybe I'm sounding like a total cheapskate, but why is $60 + tax + tips per head considered a good deal? You get your regular steak, and shrimp and crab cakes are among the most ordinary seafood entrees. The salad and dessert don't blow me away either.

So... can anyone tell me what I am missing?

If you are comparing just off the menu item, you can go to McDonald's and prob get the same thing. Order a Filet o'Fish and take the patty as ur starter, Angus Burger as the steak, a salad on the side.

But you're paying for a premium steak and other top ingredients put on your plate, and have a World-class chef preparing your dinner. This menu would normally cost over $250 at Morton's.

I'll tell you what your missing, a connection with your taste buds.

[gadogry]

If you are comparing just off the menu item, you can go to McDonald's and prob get the same thing. Order a Filet o'Fish and take the patty as ur starter, Angus Burger as the steak, a salad on the side.

But you're paying for a premium steak and other top ingredients put on your plate, and have a World-class chef preparing your dinner. This menu would normally cost over $250 at Morton's.

I'll tell you what your missing, a connection with your taste buds.


Thank you for your reply, SiuBun!

A few things:

1) Your attempt to draw a parallel between a McDonald's meal and a 4-course dinner at a fine dining restaurant was funny. Thanks for the laugh.

2) McDonald's say that they use "top ingredients" for their products. So you are telling me that Morton's also uses "top ingredients" in their cooking. That's very informative.

3) Last time I bought a steak from Sobey's it said that it's premium too. And it only costed me a few bucks.

4) Last I checked, Morton's has like fifty locations around the world. And you tell me that they are all staffed with "World Class chefs". I thought world class chefs usually have their own restaurants, but then what can I say, I've lost my connetions to my tastebuds.

[miss_swan]

Thank you for your reply, SiuBun!

A few things:

1) Your attempt to draw a parallel between a McDonald's meal and a 4-course dinner at a fine dining restaurant was funny. Thanks for the laugh.

2) McDonald's say that they use "top ingredients" for their products. So you are telling me that Morton's also uses "top ingredients" in their cooking. That's very informative.

3) Last time I bought a steak from Sobey's it said that it's premium too. And it only costed me a few bucks.

4) Last I checked, Morton's has like fifty locations around the world. And you tell me that they are all staffed with "World Class chefs". I thought world class chefs usually have their own restaurants, but then what can I say, I've lost my connetions to my tastebuds.


Well, i'll answer some of your questions (although it's pretty obvious IMO, not sure if you're kinda trolling or not ... but i'll humour you)

- the quality of food at a place like Morton's is better than probably most, so you pay for it
- the meat you get is usually AAA or Choice (US) which is harder to find locally. An 8oz piece of Ribeye or equivalent top-quality meat is pretty expensive. A meat gourmand will understand and know the difference.
- if you dine out at a fancy place you'll know that for 2 people ~ 120 bucks before tax/tip is actually a "good deal" relatively ... of course, different strokes for different folks. If you won't or can't appreciate the deal for what it's worth then there's no point in spending your money there. Fair enough.
- your high quality meat is cooked by people who know how to cook steak
- you eat in a nice environment

But seriously, let's look at what you get:

- 2 steaks
- 2 of 3 menu choices
- 1 of 2 salads
- "signature potato"
- veggie dish
- dessert

Not bad when you think about it ...

[cheeseshredder]

Thank you for your reply, SiuBun!

A few things:

1) Your attempt to draw a parallel between a McDonald's meal and a 4-course dinner at a fine dining restaurant was funny. Thanks for the laugh.

2) McDonald's say that they use "top ingredients" for their products. So you are telling me that Morton's also uses "top ingredients" in their cooking. That's very informative.

3) Last time I bought a steak from Sobey's it said that it's premium too. And it only costed me a few bucks.

4) Last I checked, Morton's has like fifty locations around the world. And you tell me that they are all staffed with "World Class chefs". I thought world class chefs usually have their own restaurants, but then what can I say, I've lost my connetions to my tastebuds.

Morton's was hiring line cooks off of craigslists a month ago. So, the people cooking your steaks are probably ordinary cooks.

[cheeseshredder]

Well, i'll answer some of your questions (although it's pretty obvious IMO, not sure if you're kinda trolling or not ... but i'll humour you)

- the quality of food at a place like Morton's is better than probably most, so you pay for it
- the meat you get is usually AAA or Choice (US) which is harder to find locally. An 8oz piece of Ribeye or equivalent top-quality meat is pretty expensive. A meat gourmand will understand and know the difference.
- if you dine out at a fancy place you'll know that for 2 people ~ 120 bucks before tax/tip is actually a "good deal" relatively ... of course, different strokes for different folks. If you won't or can't appreciate the deal for what it's worth then there's no point in spending your money there. Fair enough.
- your high quality meat is cooked by people who know how to cook steak
- you eat in a nice environment

But seriously, let's look at what you get:

- 2 steaks
- 2 of 3 menu choices
- 1 of 2 salads
- "signature potato"
- veggie dish
- dessert

Not bad when you think about it ...

I'll admit, it's not that bad... but a nice Prime steak would be much better. It doesn't really take much skill to cook a steak.

[wontonsoup]

Good deal, but only for couples or soon-to-be couples ;)
Mortons and Gothams are the best high-end steakhouses in Vancouver.
Costco steaks, bbq and montreal seasoning will save you alot though.

[VT_A+]

Agreed that it's a good deal, but I do think that Gotham's taste better and has a nicer setting.

[gadogry]

Well, i'll answer some of your questions (although it's pretty obvious IMO, not sure if you're kinda trolling or not ... but i'll humour you)

- the quality of food at a place like Morton's is better than probably most, so you pay for it
- the meat you get is usually AAA or Choice (US) which is harder to find locally. An 8oz piece of Ribeye or equivalent top-quality meat is pretty expensive. A meat gourmand will understand and know the difference.
- if you dine out at a fancy place you'll know that for 2 people ~ 120 bucks before tax/tip is actually a "good deal" relatively ... of course, different strokes for different folks. If you won't or can't appreciate the deal for what it's worth then there's no point in spending your money there. Fair enough.
- your high quality meat is cooked by people who know how to cook steak
- you eat in a nice environment

But seriously, let's look at what you get:

- 2 steaks
- 2 of 3 menu choices
- 1 of 2 salads
- "signature potato"
- veggie dish
- dessert

Not bad when you think about it ...

I was making fun of SiuBun's use of meaningless adjactives, so they weren't really "real" questions...

My "real" question was asked a few posts above that one, which is "what differentiates Morton's from the other 'regular' fine-dining places at which such a dinner for $60/head would NOT be considered a good deal?" I do know that such a meal does cost around $!20 at some fine dining places, but at regular price. So what makes this a "good deal" at Morton's?

And I think I do know a little bit about steaks. AAA is a good steak but I can get it from Sobey's pretty often. They have this Sterling Silver label that are AAA steaks and the Compliments label that are AA steaks. I have gotten both striploin and prime rib AAA steaks for $6/lb, so at 8oz that's $3 per steak. Morton's may use a fancier cut, like ribeye or tenderloin or whatever, but I can't see them being that much more expensive, especially they can get steaks at a much cheaper price than we do.

I guess I'm just skeptical about them being a chain restaurant. They can market it as an expensive place where people throw hundreds of dollars on a piece of meat, and people who want to show that they are capable of throwing hundreds of dollars on a piece of meat go there to throw hundreds of dollars on a piece of meat, and the actual quality of the food becomes secondary. Of course, this is pure prejudice, as I have never tried them before.

But unless you tell me they use Prime or Kobe beef, and their shrimps/scallops were never frozen and caught wild (i.e. not farmed), I would not be convinced that they're worth a try.

[miss_swan]

I was making fun of SiuBun's use of meaningless adjactives, so they weren't really "real" questions...

My "real" question was asked a few posts above that one, which is "what differentiates Morton's from the other 'regular' fine-dining places at which such a dinner for $60/head would NOT be considered a good deal?" I do know that such a meal does cost around $!20 at some fine dining places, but at regular price. So what makes this a "good deal" at Morton's?

And I think I do know a little bit about steaks. AAA is a good steak but I can get it from Sobey's pretty often. They have this Sterling Silver label that are AAA steaks and the Compliments label that are AA steaks. I have gotten both striploin and prime rib AAA steaks for $6/lb, so at 8oz that's $3 per steak. Morton's may use a fancier cut, like ribeye or tenderloin or whatever, but I can't see them being that much more expensive, especially they can get steaks at a much cheaper price than we do.

I guess I'm just skeptical about them being a chain restaurant. They can market it as an expensive place where people throw hundreds of dollars on a piece of meat, and people who want to show that they are capable of throwing hundreds of dollars on a piece of meat go there to throw hundreds of dollars on a piece of meat, and the actual quality of the food becomes secondary. Of course, this is pure prejudice, as I have never tried them before.

But unless you tell me they use Prime or Kobe beef, and their shrimps/scallops were never frozen and caught wild (i.e. not farmed), I would not be convinced that they're worth a try.

I hear what you're saying ... I would just venture to say this:

- if i'm going to go out with my wife and spend 120 bucks plus tax/tip on a "nice" meal ... personally, I would go to my favorite Japanese place which would run us ~ 80-90 bucks tops.

- if i'm going to try a "high-end" steakhouse then i'd go for this deal because it's pretty certain that a similar menu placement anywhere else would run higher dollar-wise and I can use this "deal" as a barometer.

- Morton's as a limited "chain" can also be thought of in positive terms. The use of the word "chain" imparts a purposeful negative connotation by people ... like McDonalds etc to use in their arguments to knock down something. Well, you get 50 plus restaurants, one or two in a major city/location and it adds up real quick. Should Morton's be attributed the same way?

Think about it - if you ordered the equivalent # of mains, sides and a dessert at Mickey D's ... it would probably cost you and your date at least ~ 25-30 bucks without the fancy coupons you get in your local mailer. :)

- as for your question ... you're asking for the moon ... I doubt that anyone will point by point and in an exhausitve and confident manner answer you. Better save that question for culinary and industry-types ... places like egullet.com forums.

Does anyone know if their shrimp/scallop are fresh or farmed? (I would actually probably think quality farmed). Your example of AAA meat at 6 bucks/lb is pretty low historically and for all intents and purposes does not reflect today's pricing. If you can get that - that's awesome. Sure, a restaurant "chain" will be able to get economies of scale to drive down prices - that is to be expected.

[tweetie]

About the comments that $60Ppp is a good deal at high end restaurants... you pay for the whole package. I think Morton's is okay at the other locations I've been to; I personally wouldn't pay full price since there are better Vancouver restos in the same regular price range. But at $60pp, it's a nice deal.

Even at cheaper chains like Milestones or Earls, if you order an appy, dinner and dessert, it'll still be $30pp and I'd rather pay more for better food and service.

Ideally your extra money goes towards better service - I like not having to ask to have my wine/water refilled, the little extras like sorbet to cleanse your palate and mini desserts, better presentation of food, better quality ingredients/cuts of meat/fish.

[gadogry]

I hear what you're saying ... I would just venture to say this:

- if i'm going to go out with my wife and spend 120 bucks plus tax/tip on a "nice" meal ... personally, I would go to my favorite Japanese place which would run us ~ 80-90 bucks tops.



If I'm going out with my wife to get something nice, we'd go to a Chinese place and share something like a 5lb lobster. Also costs something around 80-90 bucks :P

BTW, what's your favourite Japanes place?

[QUOTE=miss_swan;7268866]
- Morton's as a limited "chain" can also be thought of in positive terms. The use of the word "chain" imparts a purposeful negative connotation by people ... like McDonalds etc to use in their arguments to knock down something. Well, you get 50 plus restaurants, one or two in a major city/location and it adds up real quick. Should Morton's be attributed the same way?


Yeah, usually a restaurant manages to grow into a chain because they had made a lot of money. While a standalone "restaurant" still makes money, it has a heavier emphasis on food, whereas a chain restaurant is easier seen as a part of a large corporation, emphasis on making money. I guess that's why having a "chain" label doesn't not make a restaurant look good.

Again I have never tried Morton's and I mentioned that I'm cynical and biased.


- as for your question ... you're asking for the moon ... I doubt that anyone will point by point and in an exhausitve and confident manner answer you. Better save that question for culinary and industry-types ... places like egullet.com forums.


I thought anyone who had visited the place would be able to tell me why Morton's justifies its prices. Answers like "they have private rooms for every party and an orchestra playing your favourite tunes while you dine" or "they are pricey 'cause they import all their waitresses from Russia". I wasn't expecting restaurant owner types' responses, but those would be nice too.


Does anyone know if their shrimp/scallop are fresh or farmed? (I would actually probably think quality farmed). Your example of AAA meat at 6 bucks/lb is pretty low historically and for all intents and purposes does not reflect today's pricing. If you can get that - that's awesome. Sure, a restaurant "chain" will be able to get economies of scale to drive down prices - that is to be expected.

Yeah, $6/lb was the lowest I've seen in the last few years, but it did happen this year. And it's not uncommon to have $8-$10/lb.

And wildly caught seafood are rare and extremely expensive, so I doubt that Morton's give you wildly caught stuff. Otherwise they'd have been advertised it heavily already.

[SiuBun]

gadogry, I used those meaningless adjactives to make it clear why you're paying premium at Morton's, but if you want to be a baby and pick on every word, so be it.

For the price of $120, Morton's deal is excellent especially for the amount of food and the quality that comes with. If you are to compare that to Keg, or Earls, you know nothing about the culinary world, and proves that my example of McDonalds isnt too sacrastic for your case.

Many of the Morton's 'chain' are embedded within a 4 or 5-star hotels, which could probably the reason why they seemed pricey. As for ingredients, obviously they dont go shop at Sobey's like us Joe Doe's.

Cattle Farmers sell off their stock at different prices, the top selection, are sold to those who would pay the premium: overseas (Japan), fine meat wholesalers (which in turns sell to Fine Dining Restaurants), etc; the middle grade, are usually sold overseas as they get more money from importing countries; which leaves us the low grade meat, to be sold to big supermarkets, which will haggle down the prices becoz they buy bulk. Even though the label said AAA, it's still the low-end of the pack.

As for the chef, it doesnt take much to cook a steak. But do you expect Morton's to risk hiring some newbie to screw up a $5-8 steak (at cost)?
My words of "World-class Chef" just meant that some chefs are at that level in Morton's, but of course it would be ridiculous to expect Morton to staff its entire kitchen with them.

Anyhow, instead of sitting here arguing, why dont you spend that $120 to try it out first, and then you can tell me its not worth the money. Until that happens, no one can tell you why that's a bigger and better world out there!

[cheeseshredder]

gadogry, I used those meaningless adjactives to make it clear why you're paying premium at Morton's, but if you want to be a baby and pick on every word, so be it.

For the price of $120, Morton's deal is excellent especially for the amount of food and the quality that comes with. If you are to compare that to Keg, or Earls, you know nothing about the culinary world, and proves that my example of McDonalds isnt too sacrastic for your case.

Many of the Morton's 'chain' are embedded within a 4 or 5-star hotels, which could probably the reason why they seemed pricey. As for ingredients, obviously they dont go shop at Sobey's like us Joe Doe's.

Cattle Farmers sell off their stock at different prices, the top selection, are sold to those who would pay the premium: overseas (Japan), fine meat wholesalers (which in turns sell to Fine Dining Restaurants), etc; the middle grade, are usually sold overseas as they get more money from importing countries; which leaves us the low grade meat, to be sold to big supermarkets, which will haggle down the prices becoz they buy bulk. Even though the label said AAA, it's still the low-end of the pack.

As for the chef, it doesnt take much to cook a steak. But do you expect Morton's to risk hiring some newbie to screw up a $5-8 steak (at cost)?
My words of "World-class Chef" just meant that some chefs are at that level in Morton's, but of course it would be ridiculous to expect Morton to staff its entire kitchen with them.

Anyhow, instead of sitting here arguing, why dont you spend that $120 to try it out first, and then you can tell me its not worth the money. Until that happens, no one can tell you why that's a bigger and better world out there!

They hire line cooks off craigslist and do not require much cooking experience. If there are "world class chefs" there, they wouldn't be cooking.

[coldtoes]

So... this thread kind of degenerated. I will attempt to put back on track by adding comments from someone who actually tried eating here! It is a splurge, but definately not the same kind of splurge as it would be if you had to pay full price!

I will say that we tried this out the other night, and it was well worth the $120. I'd eaten at Morton's once before and really enjoyed it, this was good value for the Morton's experience.

After all, it is true I can bbq a nice steak on the grill at home, but the service, food and ambience make it worth while. After all - we can go to Milestone's and have a nice steak dinner for around $100, but it won't have all the little extras.

The seafood was first rate - I had the prawns, and my wife had the crab cake. The crab cake was good, but I would definately recommend the prawns.

The steak is a single cut filet mignon, which is still 8oz. On their menu it is $44 by itself. My wife had the key lime pie and really enjoyed it. I had the Hot chocolate cake, which was wonderful.

My only caveat - I had a martini that cost $16!!! I didn't realize at the time, and my glass of wine was more in the right ballpark of $8, so I would go with the wine and avoid the martinis next time.

[JC69]

Is this USDA pumped-full-of-hormones-and-antibiotics beef by any chance?

Argentinian all the way!!

[coldtoes]

Is this USDA pumped-full-of-hormones-and-antibiotics beef by any chance?

Argentinian all the way!!

The hormones and antibiotics give it that pleasant tang. Like marinade! ;)