Anybody going to York University and taking a Bachelor of Administrative Studies?

[phiLLy11]

Hey,

Is anybody going to York University and taking a Bachelor of Administrative Studies?

I'm going there, just wondering if there's anybody else on RFD that's going into that program :o

[Sigurd]

rawr, *raises hand* I'm going into that program too :D.

[MikeyPyro]

on my second year of it

[ansh12]

sorry, are you talking about schulich or atkinson?

Thanks,
Ansh

[ACC-Major]

BAS is for Atkinson, BBA is Schulich

[hitender_s]

Right here :)

I'll be starting my first year (technically 2nd year as I'm a transfer student) in September. I see I have 2-3 courses with you. Hopefully we can meet up.

[phiLLy11]

To everybody that's going into this course, hopefully we can meet up :)

I'll post my timetable when I wake up tomorrow!

TimeTable:

Program
Atkinson Faculty of Liberal & Professional Studies, B.A.S., Spec. Hons. Information Technology (Business Systems Analysis)

Fall
SC NATS 1880 Cr=6.00 A Term:Y Life Beyond Earth
AK ADMS 1000 Cr=3.00 D Term:F Introduction to Administrative Studies
AK ADMS 2500 Cr=3.00 A Term:F Introduction to Financial Accounting
AK ECON 1000 Cr=3.00 A Term:F Principles of Microeconomics
AK ITEC 1010 Cr=3.00 A Term:F Information and Organizations

Winter
SC NATS 1880 Cr=6.00 A Term:Y Life Beyond Earth
AK ITEC 1000 Cr=3.00 M Term:W Introduction to Information Technologies
AK ECON 1010 Cr=3.00 N Term:W Principles of Macro-Economics
AK ADMS 2200 Cr=3.00 Q Term:W Introductory Marketing
AK ADMS 2511 Cr=3.00 O Term:W Management Information Systems

Here are my schedules:

Fall

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Winter

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[wikka]

I highly recommend to students to transfer out of the BAS program when they get the marks unless they're very sure of their academic and job hunting abilities. Decent jobs out of Atkinson is very tough and the school is just as hard to get into as UTSG & Ryerson both of which have much better student services & alumni network(crucial for b-school). The people I know who get good jobs are usually the type that would succeed at any school or with skyhigh accounting marks. There are some other problems with the program too. The most annoying thing you'll come across is trying to answer this question from employers "Why did you choose Atkinson?". Basically they're saying Schulich students want jobs here too, why should we hire you? But again if you;re confident in your abilities then Admin. Studies, like any other program does the job.

I transferred out after 2 years so if anyone has any questions just PM me.

[HSK]

You'll be the last class to attend Atkinson. It'll be killed/merged next year: YorkU: Transition to the New Faculty (http://www.yorku.ca/laps/transition/index.html)

[hitender_s]

I highly recommend to students to transfer out of the BAS program when they get the marks unless they're very sure of their academic and job hunting abilities. Decent jobs out of Atkinson is very tough and the school is just as hard to get into as UTSG & Ryerson both of which have much better student services & alumni network(crucial for b-school). The people I know who get good jobs are usually the type that would succeed at any school or with skyhigh accounting marks. There are some other problems with the program too. The most annoying thing you'll come across is trying to answer this question from employers "Why did you choose Atkinson?". Basically they're saying Schulich students want jobs here too, why should we hire you? But again if you;re confident in your abilities then Admin. Studies, like any other program does the job.

I transferred out after 2 years so if anyone has any questions just PM me.


The number of students from Atkinson getting hired into Big4 has increased. I don't know what makes you think Ryerson is better. They both are of the same level, in fact I consider Atkinson better because York University has a reputation of being a good business university. Thanks to Schulich Atkinson has gained poularity.

You cannot compare Atkinson and Ryerson because they have roughly the same level of competition and fall under the same tier. Ryerson isn't even known for business.

UTSG is miles ahead of Ryerson and Atkinson. You've got yourself really mixed up lol sort yourself out mate.

We can go on and on about which university is better for undergrad, fact is, they're all the same, it's only the reputation that differs but the degree content is the same. Networking helps to some extent, but it won't spoon feed you. YOU need to make an effort no matter which university you're in to get into good networking and build your contacts.

If you have a strong networking base, you're good to go, doesn't matter if you're in Laurier or Windsor.

[phiLLy11]

Anybody in any of my classes? :(

[CEOdeep]

Atkinson right hurr son. starting my 1st year in september.

BAS Info Tech will be switching to accounting


Fall:

Adms1k
Econ1k
Nats1700
SOSC1810
adms2320

winter
NATS1700
SOSC1810
ADMS2500
Econ1010
ADMS3330

after my 1st year i will try to transfer tho. but i dont really care that much because the BAS Accounting program offers all the 51 CA cred hours.

[wikka]

The number of students from Atkinson getting hired into Big4 has increased. I don't know what makes you think Ryerson is better. They both are of the same level, in fact I consider Atkinson better because York University has a reputation of being a good business university. Thanks to Schulich Atkinson has gained poularity.

You cannot compare Atkinson and Ryerson because they have roughly the same level of competition and fall under the same tier. Ryerson isn't even known for business.

UTSG is miles ahead of Ryerson and Atkinson. You've got yourself really mixed up lol sort yourself out mate.

We can go on and on about which university is better for undergrad, fact is, they're all the same, it's only the reputation that differs but the degree content is the same. Networking helps to some extent, but it won't spoon feed you. YOU need to make an effort no matter which university you're in to get into good networking and build your contacts.

If you have a strong networking base, you're good to go, doesn't matter if you're in Laurier or Windsor.

Thanks for the reply. I emphasized in my previous post that its really *you* who makes the education worthwhile (which includes networking) but there is no doubt that Ryerson has better student services. Reputation is not even a matter in this discussion. From my experiences and accounts of others on the student services of the the two schools, Ryerson by far outpaces Atkinson.

Atkinson has no incentive to improve their program, build their reputation, or support their alumni (No MBA Alumni, Ryerson does). This would add competition to Schulich. Being in the clubs at York and attending events with other bschools also shows the level of spirit of a growing school (Ryerson) and the school shadowed by Schulich (Atkinson). The representation is just not there. For the whole bschool experience, Ryerson is very decent. Their recent branding with Ted Rogers also shows its continual growth. It also helps that you're earning a B.Comm not B.A.S. But again I emphasize if you're confident in your abilities (Which means university is really what you make out of it) then Atkinson is fine. But if you need some direction, support from school and students then Ryerson > York.

One more thing to consider is that Atkinson faculty is being dissolved into a full fledged Part-Time faculty with the rest moving into a consolidated Arts Faculty. What kind of commitment is this students to the students?

The recent increase in hiring from the Big4 is because the strength of Atkinson's accounting club. Having been in the club from off the radar to a friend becoming president, its really the only gem in Atkinson. This club is an absolute must if you want better chances for a job. Big4 + Midsizes have very close relationship with the club. Few of the recruiters are Atkinson alum.

Again, UTSG entrance averages are around the same level as Atkinsons (high 80s) But it might've changed since I was in highschool because Commerce is considered under the Rotman brand. That's why I was comparing the two (I also transferred pretty easily with B+ average)

This is of course another comparing schools post and I'll just end it with its really what you make out of it. Be involved in clubs, volunteer, get good grades, network and you'll get that job.

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Here's my contribution! If anyone is taking ADMS 1010 please do yourself a favour and avoid Diane Jurkowski (My class average 55%). If you're taking MODR courses, do it with Diane Zorn if possible. She's a Schulich prof, easy, effective teaching and youtube vids during breaks!

[trashmouth12]

Anybody in any of my classes? :(

In your Econ 1000

[hitender_s]

I'll just end it with its really what you make out of it. Be involved in clubs, volunteer, get good grades, network and you'll get that job.

Exactly. I't's all about what you make out of it. You cannot compare the reputation of Atkinson and Ryerson because they both are equal. You could say Ryerson has better student services, I can say York has a better business reputation.

Each university has its pros and cons. There are several business degrees in Canada, BSc in Business, BSBA, BBA, iBBA, BAcc, BAS, B.Comm; all these are the same with only different names.

It's what you make out of your university as you have put it. Each university can walk you to the ladder, but how far you will climb that ladder all depends on you.

Hopefully we have resolved this issue, at the end, Ryerson or Atkinson, doesn't matter as long as you know where to put your foot.

[phiLLy11]

Agreed.

I chose York because people said it had the hottest girls :lol:

[stephen1]

Agreed.

I chose York because people said it had the hottest girls :lol:

I thought it was western no? lol i remember axe having a hotness ranking in maclean's university magazine.

[phiLLy11]

I thought it was western no? lol i remember axe having a hotness ranking in maclean's university magazine.

I think Western was the easiest to get laid or something of that sort.

York I think has the hottest actual girls?

[brocool]

I'm transferring into the BAS program as well.. 2nd yr

Three reasons why I chose york :
1. Cuts my commute down to half
2. Possibility of schulich :cheesygri
3. rich babes that will buy me lunch?

anybody heading over to the orientation?.. Im still deciding whether I should go

[phiLLy11]

I'm transferring into the BAS program as well.. 2nd yr

Three reasons why I chose york :
1. Cuts my commute down to half
2. Possibility of schulich :cheesygri
3. rich babes that will buy me lunch?

anybody heading over to the orientation?.. Im still deciding whether I should go

I'm going to the whole Frosh week. Paid for it already, might as well go to what looks good :D

[b34r]

how is everyone (dis)liking the bas program so far?
i'm applying to it next year and am just looking for some feedback on it.
also thinking about applying to the new financial and business economics course offered by the new faculty.