Question About Transfer to Indian School

[iempwnage]

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I'm going on a long business trip for 3 years to India and I'm allowed to take one person.

My nephew wants to tag along and his parents have agreed to let me take him.

The thing is, hes 15 and will be attending a middle class (the best I can afford financially=$400 CAD a month max) international private school (british/american curriculum)hes now in grade 10) in hyderabad, india.*

Question is which international school is the best for my budget, and near the "Charminar" (I'll be in a hotel near there, the "old city").*

Thanks!

[rey1867]

He probably won't be able to adjust because Indian schools require a lot more memorization than over here. Also, the math they will be teaching will be a lot more advanced than what he's learned in grade 10.

You could always put him in one of the American/British schools but the tuition will be pretty high.

It would probably be in his best interest to stay here.

[wqzmbshz]

I'm going on a long business trip for 3 years to India and I'm allowed to take one person.

My nephew wants to tag along and his parents have agreed to let me take him.

The thing is, hes 15 and will be attending a middle class (the best I can afford) private school (hes now in grade 10) there (hyderabad, india).

Google tells me that indian schools, especially private schools, are much harder then western schools.

My nephew has an average of 72. Will he be able to adjust? He's not a hard worker, but hes not lazy, so I'm guessing he will barely pass..

He will probably have some difficulty, for example, as in most asian countries teachings of math and science do not just involve basics as what high schools in north america do, they involve lots, lots more of critical thinking. Grade 10 in india i guess equals to the level of senior high school, and its difficulty in math could possibly reach first year calculus in ontario universities, or even harder ( What I have learned from tons of international students from all counrties in Asia, as they are saying first year cal they had was a joke even comparing to level of difficulty of the math they are dealing with in high school in their home countries. ) So what I suggest would be letting him go beyond basics as from the textbooks he is learning now and try to move deeper into each aspect of subjects. hope it helps.

[CEOdeep]

lol he ll get owned pretty quickly

[originalnutta]

Do teachers over there still hit kids?

Mine did.

[Error916]

lol he ll get owned pretty quickly

Yea, with an average of 72 here in Canada, one of the easiest systems to get 80+ in, he will most definitely get owned.

[porphyra]

Also, since everything is so competitive, most Indian kids take private tuitions after class to give them an edge and prepare them for competitive entrance exams to Engineering colleges and Med schools.

If you nephew is ok with being amongst the bottom few then he will be fine. If you think that it will rock his self-esteem then you may want to reconsider. The kids are super competitive.

On the other hand, if you and your nephew are white, and he is even half decent looking, he will have no issues attracting girls. Hell he'll have to beat them away with a stick!

So there's a silver lining for you.

[play_b3yond]

unless u want him to fail badly ... no, not a good idea at all.

[porphyra]

Do teachers over there still hit kids?

Mine did.

Not in private schools where kids with rich or hell even middle class parents go. You can be rest assured, the teacher will be looking for another job soon.

Alas, government schools are a different story. Apparently, some people are more equal than others. But for a society so rooted in the caste system, why would that come as a surprise.

[divx]

I'm going on a long business trip for 3 years to India and I'm allowed to take one person.

My nephew wants to tag along and his parents have agreed to let me take him.

The thing is, hes 15 and will be attending a middle class (the best I can afford) private school (hes now in grade 10) there (hyderabad, india).

Google tells me that indian schools, especially private schools, are much harder then western schools.

My nephew has an average of 72. Will he be able to adjust? He's not a hard worker, but hes not lazy, so I'm guessing he will barely pass..

72 is very bad, I got punished for going below 95 back in China, and Indian education system is pretty close to China so I hear from my Indian friend. It's gonna be major pwnage, going from a subpar education system into a real hard working one.

[wqzmbshz]

72 is very bad, I got punished for going below 95 back in China, and Indian education system is pretty close to China so I hear from my Indian friend. It's gonna be major pwnage, going from a subpar education system into a real hard working one.

lol..thats true, stuffs from ontario high school is a joke..comparing to those, and plus the easy going teachers and those bird courses that throw out free marks to increase avg. from what i heard gr 10 math here equals to grade 7 math in china or india or singapore with the test difficulty being in their grade 5 level...all basics =S

[hitender_s]

Going from Indian curriculum to Canadian curriculum is a piece of cake, but doing it vice-versa, it couldn't get any harder.

I've completed my high-school under the ICSE/ISC board of studies which is considered the hardest in India, this gave me an edge over my fellow college-mates when I joined an American College which, well, obviously followed the American curriculum of studies.

We were studying differentiation and integration in one of the Business Calculus classes. All the people there looked stunned and were like "WTF is this ****?". Where as the students there who studied under the Indian syllabus had already studied differentiation and integration in 10th grade.

It will definitely be hard for your nephew to cope up. Especially with an average like 72% in Canada, it will be very hard. A 72% in India is like 85%+ in Canada easy.

[iempwnage]

How do I tell the kid he can't go?

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[iempwnage]

You could always put him in one of the American/British schools but the tuition will be pretty high.

Are there any in Hyderabad?

Near the Charminar?

Edit:
http://india.english-schools.org/international-school-hyderabad.htm

How far is this place from Charminar? And how much will they cost me?

[strangeepiphany]

You could try emailing them: ish@ishhyd.com
or contacting them with any of the methods listed on their site: click (http://www.ishhyd.com/contact_info.htm).

Their site's not very good though, and there are a lot of dead links, which makes me a bit suspicious about the school.

[iempwnage]

You could try emailing them: ish@ishhyd.com
or contacting them with any of the methods listed on their site: click (http://www.ishhyd.com/contact_info.htm).

Their site's not very good though, and there are a lot of dead links, which makes me a bit suspicious about the school.

Just had my assistant send them an email. I'll also have him call them later tonight (its right now 11:05pm in Hyderabad).

Thanks!

[CSK'sMom]

How do I tell the kid he can't go?

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Easy, you be a responsible adult in his life and you explain exactly why he can't go for the full time. If he's a decent kid with aspirations and goals he will understand fully. If he's a wanker ... well, you know. But with all that said I'm not even sure why you would have even contemplated this in the first place without doing a heck of a lot of research (not just a google either). The other thing I question is how much you actually thought this through? Do you have any idea what it takes to parent a teenager because for 3 years you would indeed be his parent? It's certainly not an easy task in the best circumstances with the best kids, yet alone in a situation like you are talking about....

[iempwnage]

Easy, you be a responsible adult in his life and you explain exactly why he can't go for the full time. If he's a decent kid with aspirations and goals he will understand fully. If he's a wanker ... well, you know. But with all that said I'm not even sure why you would have even contemplated this in the first place without doing a heck of a lot of research (not just a google either). The other thing I question is how much you actually thought this through? Do you have any idea what it takes to parent a teenager because for 3 years you would indeed be his parent? It's certainly not an easy task in the best circumstances with the best kids, yet alone in a situation like you are talking about....

Before I say no to him, I want to research all the internation western curriculum schools in hyderabad.

Don't worry, I think I'm prepared to be his parent for 3 years, I had a long discussion with his parents..

[CSK'sMom]

Before I say no to him, I want to research all the internation western curriculum schools in hyderabad.

Don't worry, I think I'm prepared to be his parent for 3 years, I had a long discussion with his parents..

So how are you going to deal with the supervision issue while you are working? What are you going to do if he enters the lovely rebellious stage and decides you aren't his parent and he doesn't have to listen to you? What are you going to do if God forbid he gets into drugs, etc? What are you going to do if he becomes clinically depressed or develops and anxiety disorder because of leaving everything he now knows and all his friends? The possibilities are endless when it comes to teens. Talking to his parents and actually living with and dealing with a teenage boy are two very different things. And I can say that as part of a parenting team to 2 teenage boys, LOL!

[porphyra]

Before I say no to him, I want to research all the internation western curriculum schools in hyderabad.

Don't worry, I think I'm prepared to be his parent for 3 years, I had a long discussion with his parents..

Much as you think now, at your age, it would be the experience of a lifetime; it may not be the same for the kid. Do realise that he will step into a VASTLY different culture. Heck, even the English taught is very British, so he will find issues there. And is he REALLY up for this kind of change? Kids at this age are not always sure what they want. He could end up being miserable.

Or then again, he could have a total life altering experience. And 50 years from now, still reminisce about it. That call, only you and his parents can make.

[iempwnage]

His parents and I have spoken alot on the topic, and we really think he's prepared.

Also my work will consist mainly on the weekends (meeting clients and partners etc), the rest of my work - I just need to be near a computer so I can do this at the hotel Monday to Friday 24/5.

The school there is Monday to Saturday 8am-4pm (atleas thats what google is telling me). So I won't be able to superwise him on Sunday and part of Saturday.

But rest assured, hes a good kid, he doesn't get into trouble at school and he listens to his parents and me, he was doing pretty well in middle school with an average of 87 in grade 8. He has just slacked off in highschool..

Anyways do you guys know of any other international schools in hyderabad?

And how much harder is the British system then the Canadian curriculum?

THANKS!

[ngold]

I'd say it's not a good idea.

1. With less than 80% average here he'll get pwned in India.
2. At his age he needs to learn how to chill, socialize, and pick up chicks. In India he will have no time to do all that.
3. May cause trouble in university application later on. Indian credits aren't as widely recognized as Canadian ones.

[iempwnage]

Updated*

I'm going on a long business trip for 3 years to India and I'm allowed to take one person.

My nephew wants to tag along and his parents have agreed to let me take him.

The thing is, hes 15 and will be attending a middle class (the best I can afford financially=$400 CAD a month max) international private school (british/american curriculum)hes now in grade 10) in hyderabad, india.*

Question is which international school is the best for my budget, and near the "Charminar" (I'll be in a hotel near there, the "old city").*

Thanks!

Updated!

[divx]

^ what if the kid wants a challenge? It would probably be the most challenging task of his life and he can feel a sense of achievement.

[wirebound]

As much as I'd like to say this would be a fantastic experience, I wonder what you're thinking. Have you lived in India yourself? Has your nephew lived with you before? Has your nephew been to India?

I got REALLY sick in India, are you prepared to deal with a 15 year old if you're both really sick?

Why doesn't he come out next summer for 2 months, and then go from there? I don't see why you'd just have him move there for 3 years (or why his parents would let him for that matter).

[porphyra]

Updated!

Well, seeing as you can afford 400CAD/month = $4800 p.a.

Taking http://www.ishhyd.com into account (International School at Hyderabad);

The fees are:
Registration Fee

Payable in full for all students registering with ISH (Non-refundable) Rs.4,000

Capital Fee Payable in full for all students registering with ISH (Non-refundable) Rs1,25,000

Grade 11 and Grade 12- IB Diploma Rs.4,30,000

So you are looking at almost 5,59,000 for the 1st year (assuming he is entering grade 11).

That is $13,740.

The next year will be lower, but still well higher than your budget for $4800.

And expect this school to be cheaper than some of the better known International schools in Delhi, Mumbai or Bangalore.

I think that its now simply a matter of economics. I don't believe you can afford to take him.

[thomas_r]

How do I tell the kid he can't go?

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Tell him that school in India will be crazy-hard, and that in order to just survive he will have to spend all his evenings and weekends doing nothing but studying and working with a tutor. Then ask him if he still wants to come.

[IBOPM]

How do I tell the kid he can't go?

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lol that was fast.

[Rishi]

Tell him that school in India will be crazy-hard, and that in order to just survive he will have to spend all his evenings and weekends doing nothing but studying and working with a tutor. Then ask him if he still wants to come.
Also tell him that the girls there aren't allowed to talk to foreigners. :cheesygri

[iempwnage]

Well, seeing as you can afford 400CAD/month = $4800 p.a.

Taking http://www.ishhyd.com into account (International School at Hyderabad);

The fees are:
Registration Fee

Payable in full for all students registering with ISH (Non-refundable) Rs.4,000

Capital Fee Payable in full for all students registering with ISH (Non-refundable) Rs1,25,000

Grade 11 and Grade 12- IB Diploma Rs.4,30,000

So you are looking at almost 5,59,000 for the 1st year (assuming he is entering grade 11).

That is $13,740.

The next year will be lower, but still well higher than your budget for $4800.

And expect this school to be cheaper than some of the better known International schools in Delhi, Mumbai or Bangalore.

I think that its now simply a matter of economics. I don't believe you can afford to take him.

3 things:

1. He just turned 15 in January, so hes going to go to grade 10 in india.

2. Where did you find the fees/tuition on their website?!?!

3. If its going to cost that much I guess I'm just going to have to stop being a cheap ass and raise mt budget..

AND thanks!

[porphyra]

3 things:

1. He just turned 15 in January, so hes going to go to grade 10 in india.

2. Where did you find the fees/tuition on their website?!?!

3. If its going to cost that much I guess I'm just going to have to stop being a cheap ass and raise mt budget..

AND thanks!

Its right on the school website page.

http://www.ishhyd.com/school%20fees%202008-2009.htm

FYI: Private schools in India are EXPENSIVE! There is no way around it. You will have to cough up the money.

Perhaps if your nephew realises the money you and/or his parents are spending, he will make the effort to work harder.

You know, you should try to go for it. If he is miserable after 1 year, he can always go back home. In fact, when he does, all of a sudden he would be the smartest guy in his class. Otherwise, 3 years in an Indian education system will only help him in the long run.

There are plenty of foreign kids in these International schools. He will no problems finding Canadian, American kids that can help him with the transition.