[Merged] Do Not Call List

[rems]

http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/469757

Finally...

https://www.lnnte-dncl.gc.ca/

[Kahads]

"And unsolicited calls will continue to be permitted from charities, political parties, pollsters, newspapers seeking subscriptions and companies with which customers have existing business relationships."

Most of the telemarketers calling me are companies with which I have an "existing business relationship" -- credit card companies, phone companies, etc.

Sigh. :(

[rems]

yea i know...but anything to reduce them is still good

[joeym]

been having lots of these telemarketers lately.
even my cellphone has been getting them.

[molala]

i have my home phone no. unlisted...no garbage calls! :)

[blahblohblah]

http://www.lnnte-dncl.gc.ca/

[ephemera]

"And unsolicited calls will continue to be permitted from charities, political parties, pollsters, newspapers seeking subscriptions and companies with which customers have existing business relationships."

Most of the telemarketers calling me are companies with which I have an "existing business relationship" -- credit card companies, phone companies, etc.

Sigh. :(

That bites because they call me many times daily.

[Uncle Cool]

Would you sign up for a Do Not Call list to screen out telemarketers?

Yes 95%
No 5%


Total Votes for this Question: 521

This is from the Toronto Sun.

I am one of the 95%.

I even have a message on my phone that says, I am not interested if you are a telemarketer, please do not call again.

Think that stops them?

[kingfencer]

i heard this on the radio. pisses me off, all the people i want not calling me is on the list. especially charities.

[Evil Baby]

Would you sign up for a Do Not Call list to screen out telemarketers?

Yes 95%
No 5%


Total Votes for this Question: 521

This is from the Toronto Sun.

I am one of the 95%.

I even have a message on my phone that says, I am not interested if you are a telemarketer, please do not call again.

Think that stops them?

well considering the vast majority of telemarketers are running out of automated call centers and machines can detect answering machines and they just label your call as an answering machine then no I don't think that would stop them in the slightest.


It's a real shame they felt newspapers should be allowed to call you

[molala]

well considering the vast majority of telemarketers are running out of automated call centers and machines can detect answering machines and they just label your call as an answering machine then no I don't think that would stop them in the slightest.


It's a real shame they felt newspapers should be allowed to call you

that's probably the condition they have will the stars publishing this article!

[isom3tric]

Dang it, since bell is running this, it wont block their number. I swear I get calls from them every hour every weekday in the afternoons.

[z_squared]

thanks for this anyways

[Ziggy007]

I don't really understand why all the exceptions

Unsolicited is unsolicited

[Azxster]

The new Panasonic 6.0 cordless phones have a call block features. It works, 1 short ring, and the call is disconnected.

[Frankie3s]

Dang it, since bell is running this, it wont block their number. I swear I get calls from them every hour every weekday in the afternoons.

I use these calls to wake me up in the morning.

[N_Raged]

More importantly, it's free!

[TheFuteballer]

does anyone else think that this is the absolute worst domain name ever?

could they not have chosen something that made much more sense than: http://www.lnnte-dncl.gc.ca/ ???

Not a big deal but still lol

[ipxxx]

In conjunction with the Do Not Call List see http://www.ioptout.ca/

It is referenced in this article here:
http://technology.sympatico.msn.cbc.ca/Telemarketers+face+donotcall+axe+on+Sept+30/News/ContentPosting?isfa=1&newsitemid=tech-dncl&feedname=CBC-TECH-SCIENCE-V3&show=False&number=0&showbyline=True&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc&date=True

[st7860]

http://www.dncl.gc.ca

Canadians fed up with unsolicited telemarketers will be able to register Tuesday on a national do not call list established by Canada's telecommunications regulator and operated by Bell Canada.

Residents can register their home and cellphone numbers to block unwanted telemarketers by phone or online with the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission.

The CRTC says calls will not stop immediately upon registration, as telemarketers have 31 days to update their own no-call lists.

Canadians can register their home and cellphone numbers to block unwanted telemarketers.

Exceptions to the list include calls from charities, political parties, polling companies, newspapers selling subscriptions and organizations with which the consumer has an existing business relationship.

The CRTC first broached the subject of a national do not call list in 2004 to complement the current regulations requiring telemarketers to keep individual, company-specific lists.

The regulator set out rules for the list in July, 2007, and awarded Bell Canada a five-year contract to operate the list.

The telemarketing industry has been critical of the list, specifically the online registration. The concern is that hackers will be able to upload entire phone books to the list.

To register call 1-866-580-3625 or visit www.dncl.gc.ca. The CRTC said the website will be activated after midnight.

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=c9be6ba3-ed40-4033-b5e7-a50ea764d846

[dighn]

This is awesome. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE telemarketing calls.

[st7860]

Unfortunately calls are still permitted from: charities, political parties, polling companies, newspapers selling subscriptions and organizations with which the consumer has an existing business relationship.

[Tha_Doggg]

There are so many exceptions that it's almost pointless to sign up.

[Nikita]

There are so many exceptions that it's almost pointless to sign up.

Then you must be one of the chosen few who doesn't have telemarketers calling you daily. This is an excellent move but people will always find something to complain about. Love that 'can't stop them all, why stop any of them' whine...:rolleyes:

[nano]

There are so many exceptions that it's almost pointless to sign up.

+1

the most annoying calls are from newspapers.. telemarketers don't annoy me that much i just tell them in not interested and hang up

[Eyies]

There are so many exceptions that it's almost pointless to sign up.

So let's see. If you sign up -- likely taking less than 10 minutes, probably 5 minutes. If you stop even maybe 2 telemarketers from calling, you've saved your time's worth.

Way to complain about everything.

[professionaldude]

There are so many exceptions that it's almost pointless to sign up.

+1

[Barayolayosa]

Then you must be one of the chosen few who doesn't have telemarketers calling you daily. This is an excellent move but people will always find something to complain about. Love that 'can't stop them all, why stop any of them' whine...:rolleyes:

-1

I agree with Tha_Doggg. Most of the calls I get are from newspapers and pollsters - both of which are exempt from the do not call list.

[lochlan651]

Its amazing to me how many people here dont have Caller ID. Or dont bother to use it.

I have Caller ID and voicemail. If I dont recognize the number, I dont answer it. If they want me, they leave a voice mail.

How hard is that. In fact, it takes more effort to whine than it does to not answer the phone. Imagine that.

I guess I am just not popular enough to answer every single call that comes to my phone "just in case it is someone I know".

[Firefoxer]

The other half:
http://www.ioptout.ca/


IOptOut takes advantage of this approach by allowing Canadians to create and manage a personal do-not-call list that begins where do-not-call list ends. Once you register, you'll be able to view a categorized list where you can opt-out of further contact from exempt organizations. (http://www.ioptout.ca/)

[Tha_Doggg]

Its amazing to me how many people here dont have Caller ID. Or dont bother to use it.

I have Caller ID and voicemail. If I dont recognize the number, I dont answer it. If they want me, they leave a voice mail.

How hard is that. In fact, it takes more effort to whine than it does to not answer the phone. Imagine that.

I guess I am just not popular enough to answer every single call that comes to my phone "just in case it is someone I know".

Caller ID costs money. Not everyone wants to pay for it. And caller ID or no caller ID, the phone will still ring.

[Nikita]

Its amazing to me how many people here dont have Caller ID. Or dont bother to use it.

I have Caller ID and voicemail. If I dont recognize the number, I dont answer it. If they want me, they leave a voice mail.

How hard is that. In fact, it takes more effort to whine than it does to not answer the phone. Imagine that.

I guess I am just not popular enough to answer every single call that comes to my phone "just in case it is someone I know".

I have caller ID. I use it, all the time. And I'm notorious for not answering my phone, even for people I know and like. I have never felt compelled to answer a ringing phone (unless I'm at work of course). I still don't want to hear my phone ring 10 times a day or come home to 10 messages a day from telemarketers. Anything that'll cut that crap down is a good thing. Nobody's forcing you to use it so why do you care anyway?

[joe_j]

What's the probability the site is knocked offline or crawls tomorrow

[st7860]

funny how people polling are exempted.

[lochlan651]

funny how people polling are exempted.

How is a poll telemarketing?

[lochlan651]

I have caller ID. I use it, all the time. And I'm notorious for not answering my phone, even for people I know and like. I have never felt compelled to answer a ringing phone (unless I'm at work of course). I still don't want to hear my phone ring 10 times a day or come home to 10 messages a day from telemarketers. Anything that'll cut that crap down is a good thing. Nobody's forcing you to use it so why do you care anyway?

Nobody is forcing you to whine about it. But you still do.

[dighn]

Its amazing to me how many people here dont have Caller ID. Or dont bother to use it.

I have Caller ID and voicemail. If I dont recognize the number, I dont answer it. If they want me, they leave a voice mail.

How hard is that. In fact, it takes more effort to whine than it does to not answer the phone. Imagine that.

I guess I am just not popular enough to answer every single call that comes to my phone "just in case it is someone I know".

But the phone still rings, so it is still annoying.

[rilhouse]

Its amazing to me how many people here dont have Caller ID. Or dont bother to use it.

I have Caller ID and voicemail. If I dont recognize the number, I dont answer it. If they want me, they leave a voice mail.

How hard is that. In fact, it takes more effort to whine than it does to not answer the phone. Imagine that.

I guess I am just not popular enough to answer every single call that comes to my phone "just in case it is someone I know".

it's still annoying that they call though. i've had to answer telemarketer calls simply b/c they call multiple times a day even if you never answer. they didn't stop until i answered and said "not interested".

[the_fm]

you can put your number now. i just did it :cheesygri

[st7860]

there shouldn't have been any exceptions to the list.

[Emancipated]

The new Panasonic 6.0 cordless phones have a call block features. It works, 1 short ring, and the call is disconnected.

How does it know it's from a coldcalling bastard versus a coldcalling bastard friend or family?

[zoolander]

Reply every telemarketer question with "What are you wearing?" and sooner or later one plays the 976 game.

[AcidBomber]

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.


site got owned already... :(

https://www.lnnte-dncl.gc.ca/index-eng


EDIT: Nevermind, it's back, just added mine... hmph, took a few refreshes.

National Do Not Call List Registration

Number:
416-***-****
Registration Date:
September 30, 2008
Expiration Date:
October 31, 2011

[CSR]

registered!@

[st7860]

help your friends register too, you can register any number and the system will accept it.

[iluvmikeharris]

help your friends register too, you can register any number and the system will accept it.

unfortunately anyone can unregister you too.

[ipxxx]

Hmm guess I'll try in a few days when things aren't as busy =)

[Barayolayosa]

Site is pwnt:

Important Notice
National Do Not Call List (DNCL)


The DNCL Web site is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later.

Date de modification : 2008-09-30


Date Modified: 2008-09-30

[Eyies]

Took me less than a couple minutes to register a few numbers.

I certainly hope the complainers in this thread man-up as they say and don't register as surely this service is 'useless'.

[st7860]

if some telemarketers squeak through and still call you, simply hang up the phone, no need to talk to them.

[AcidBomber]

unfortunately anyone can unregister you too.


uh, ok, that will be pretty bull if the telemarketers start unregistering everyone before calling... :confused:

[st7860]

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=aa04ed17-90f1-4ace-9121-d7a0b874b814
To register call 1-866-580-3625 or visit www.dncl.gc.ca. The CRTC said the website will be activated after midnight.

[DaVibe]

It's been on every news channel here in Toronto ... obviously there's going to be a huge demand on the first day ... yet the site STILL crashes?
"Temporarily Unavailable" ...

Well that's just lovely.

[Nikita]

Nobody is forcing you to whine about it. But you still do.

ROLF! Says the user who's whining about a service he doesn't want or have to use...is there anything more pointless than that?

Hmm, looking through the thread, looks like I'm in good company 'whining' about telemarketers. My friend, if you have no problems with telemarketers, YOU are in the minority, see below. The government didn't set this system up to satisfy a few 'whiners'. And if you don't know how big a problem this has become nationwide, then you're spending too much time posting lame replies to people instead of paying attention to current events...meh, blissful ignorance works for some I guess.

But the phone still rings, so it is still annoying.

it's still annoying that they call though. i've had to answer telemarketer calls simply b/c they call multiple times a day even if you never answer. they didn't stop until i answered and said "not interested".

Caller ID costs money. Not everyone wants to pay for it. And caller ID or no caller ID, the phone will still ring.

So let's see. If you sign up -- likely taking less than 10 minutes, probably 5 minutes. If you stop even maybe 2 telemarketers from calling, you've saved your time's worth.

Way to complain about everything.


Took me less than a couple minutes to register a few numbers.

I certainly hope the complainers in this thread man-up as they say and don't register as surely this service is 'useless'.

Good point. I'll take bets the people whining about a system they don't have to use WILL use it....but of course will never out themselves about it.

uh, ok, that will be pretty bull if the telemarketers start unregistering everyone before calling... :confused:

Wow AcidBomber, also a good point, I never thought of that. Though I'd guess it would be against the law or there'd be some tech way to prevent that kind of abuse (giving credit to the goverment in assuming they considered this and, yes, I know giving credit to the government may be naive...but hope springs eternal).

[st7860]

It's been on every news channel here in Toronto ... obviously there's going to be a huge demand on the first day ... yet the site STILL crashes?
"Temporarily Unavailable" ...

Well that's just lovely.

its not even a government website. BELL was contracted to run it - and it crashed - lol

[cube11]

its working now..just registered all my numbers..if u refresh the site sometimes it starts to work..lets hope it does what it is suppose to do..

[onexeyed]

I did was the previous posted did, and the refreshing the site worked. I got an error message at first, refreshed. Thanks!

[Peckerwood]

Please don't flame me :|

When I was about 18 I got a quick job Telemarketing for MacLeans, Time, and Vogue magazines...of course back then we still had the rotary phones. The way it worked was simple; our boss would take a ruler and draw a square grid with 100 boxes in it...he would then have digits marked in each box numbering from 00 to 99. Photocopies were made and a set of five digits was at the top of each sheet he handed out to us...the first five digits of a phone number.

If we got no answer then we would write NA in the box...Negative Response = NR...Not in service was simply an X...a sale was always circled in red with the sales number sequence marked in.

I used to use an Aussie accent (as I was good at mimicking just about any accent) and I actually made 5 times more sales with it then I did using a regular accent.

I didn't make very much money, but enough to live on.

The point to that story was to highlight the use of sheets of paper being used to call numbers in sequence...how is the DNCL going to possibly stop those ones?

[st7860]

sequential dialing is illegal.

[ghettogal]

I just registered a couple of numbers...I was just wondering since there's quite a bit of exceptions w/ regards to who is allowed to call...I'm wondering if now they will get the list of numbers that are registering now esp. since the politicians are exempted, does that mean there are going to be more of them calling now that I registered????

FYI, for those that havn't signed up, it's up and running and there's also an expiry on when they can call you again..not a big problem since (if you sign up today) it's on November 1, 2011; it should be 3 yrs from the day that you actually sign up.

EDIT: This is their disclaimer....:confused:

DISCLAIMER
The National DNCL Operator and the CRTC will have no liability to you with respect to any damages (of whatever form or nature) you may suffer as a result of having registered your number(s) on the National DNCL. The National DNCL Operator and the CRTC do not guarantee the management and administration of the National DNCL will be uninterrupted or error-free. Subject to any statutory warranties which cannot be excluded, the National DNCL Operator and the CRTC expressly disclaims any conditions or warranties (express, implied, statutory or otherwise) in such respect. Your privacy rights under the Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act (PIPEDA) are not affected by this disclaimer.

[belowzeros]

seems to be working fine now

[LonesomeDove]

"And unsolicited calls will continue to be permitted from charities, political parties, pollsters, newspapers seeking subscriptions and companies with which customers have existing business relationships."

Most of the telemarketers calling me are companies with which I have an "existing business relationship" -- credit card companies, phone companies, etc.

Sigh. :(

With the list of exemptions, what is the use of this list? The people on the exemption list are the ONLY ones that call me anyway. Most annoying are the charities and the polling firms. Those should be taken off the exemption list.

[felix]

Entered my phone numbers just now.

Here's the CTV news report on this Do Not Call List :
http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-CA&brand=sympatico&vid=933f8834-e071-482b-866c-cd8e90175631

I wonder if this could generate more unwanted calls since our phone numbers are now available to all telemarketers? I mean, some of us subscribe to unlisted number and call privacy ... would this lead to more telemarketing calls?

[jopojo]

With the list of exemptions, what is the use of this list? The people on the exemption list are the ONLY ones that call me anyway. Most annoying are the charities and the polling firms. Those should be taken off the exemption list.

lol. I was thinking the same thing when I signed up my numbers. Kinda BS if you ask me. But let's see what happens.

[st7860]

www.dncl.ca


you can register fax numbers too!

[eightyeight]

Entered my phone numbers just now.

Here's the CTV news report on this Do Not Call List :
http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-CA&brand=sympatico&vid=933f8834-e071-482b-866c-cd8e90175631

I wonder if this could generate more unwanted calls since our phone numbers are now available to all telemarketers? I mean, some of us subscribe to unlisted number and call privacy ... would this lead to more telemarketing calls?

It's gotten so bad on our home line that I'm willing to take the chance.

Plus, you have to think that there will be something like 10 million numbers on this list within 2-3 years. I wouldn't think companies who have to resort to telemarketing would have the resources to sort through all those numbers?

Who knows... Maybe they'll get all the registered numbers in a nice neat Excel file.. Then when the DNCL registration expires in 2011, we're fair game until we renew?

[st7860]

a lot of people don't know that you can ask for your number to not be published in the phone book.

[Keigotw]

a lot of people don't know that you can ask for your number to not be published in the phone book.

Bell Charges you if you don't want your # listed

[mikeymoe]

I just got a call at 10:22 this morning from Tel#410-774-8093. It was an automated message saying they've tried contacting me before with some important news about how I've been overpaying on my credit cards or something like that.

Anyways, I wait till the end of the message and it says press 1 to speak to someone right now or press 3 to remove your number from our list. I press 3 and it says "please hold while we verify the removal of your number from our database" and goes to dead air...

Since they called my work number, I held for 2 minutes, then put the phone on speakerphone and put the receiver down. The number was still on my call display so I know the line was still active.

Anyways, I got startled at 10:35am when a voice came booming out of my speakerphone saying "YOUR NUMBER HAS NOW BEEN REMOVED!!" and the line disconnected.

What a ploy. They put you on hold for over 10 minutes in hopes that you just hang up so they can say "the number removal process was interrupted" or something like that and thus, not remove your number from their database.

Oh well, only 29 days to go... :)

[Menace]

Rogers Homephone does that too.

Bell Charges you if you don't want your # listed

[st7860]

an unpublished number is the simplest and most effective way

[st7860]

just click the phone if a robot calls you

[ag2000]

I just got a call at 10:22 this morning from Tel#410-774-8093. It was an automated message saying they've tried contacting me before with some important news about how I've been overpaying on my credit cards or something like that.

Anyways, I wait till the end of the message and it says press 1 to speak to someone right now or press 3 to remove your number from our list. I press 3 and it says "please hold while we verify the removal of your number from our database" and goes to dead air...

Since they called my work number, I held for 2 minutes, then put the phone on speakerphone and put the receiver down. The number was still on my call display so I know the line was still active.

Anyways, I got startled at 10:35am when a voice came booming out of my speakerphone saying "YOUR NUMBER HAS NOW BEEN REMOVED!!" and the line disconnected.

What a ploy. They put you on hold for over 10 minutes in hopes that you just hang up so they can say "the number removal process was interrupted" or something like that and thus, not remove your number from their database.

Oh well, only 29 days to go... :)

Even if they claim that you have been removed - it still does not means that you will.

BTW I had even more interesting situation -after getting the telemarketer call - when I pressed the number to be removed - they put me on hold, however instead of dead air - they played some advertisements trying to sell me something!!!! After 10 minutes of listening to this, I hung up as it did not look like they were going to remove me....

By the way - when you google the number you are getting call from, you can often get some interesting information....