Electives for Engineers @ U of T!

[IBOPM]

What's the freshest and bestest this year? How bout them asian language courses? discuss...

I'll offer my opinions:

ANT100 = BAD
ARC132 = BAD
GGR252 = BAD (marks, but next to 0 workload)

[jeeva86]

I always hear ECO100/105, but availability is really minimal, which sux for us cuz we can't add the course till the artscis' are done. I heard Intro to Mgmt at utsc is real easy with lecture videos posted online.

[IBOPM]

I always hear ECO100/105, but availability is really minimal, which sux for us cuz we can't add the course till the artscis' are done. I heard Intro to Mgmt at utsc is real easy with lecture videos posted online.

We can take UTSC courses?

[strangeepiphany]

Why is ANT100 bad?

[IBOPM]

Why is ANT100 bad?

Too much reading, too much effort, too boring of content, too large class size etc... That's what I've heard.

[jeeva86]

Don't ever take those stupid memorization/reading/multiple choice type exams such as ANT/SOC. These courses are so retardely tested.

Yea, you can take utsc courses. I know you can take the intro to mgmt, cuz couple guys last year took it.

[IBOPM]

Don't ever take those stupid memorization/reading/multiple choice type exams such as ANT/SOC. These courses are so retardely tested.

Yea, you can take utsc courses. I know you can take the intro to mgmt, cuz couple guys last year took it.

Yeah, reading/memorization is definitely not something I want to do. I've crossed out ANT/SOC/PSY already.

Doesn't ECO require a lot of memorization though?
What did you take for electives?
How did your friends like mgmt?

[jeeva86]

I heard really good results with ECO. I'd first go for that if available, then prolly take mgmt. I think they did good, I can't remember. I just remember the part about not having to go to lectures and just go there for the tests/exams. Since its an intro course, I'm sure its dead easy, atleast to the engineer.

[Rishi]

Economics for Non-specialists (can't remember if it's ECO100 or 105) is a walk in the park, if you can fit it in your engineering timetable.

[TheFuteballer]

What about HSS courses?

I'm taking a full year entrepreneurship course and it takes both my CS credits but I have no idea what to take for HSS...

[IBOPM]

What about HSS courses?

I'm taking a full year entrepreneurship course and it takes both my CS credits but I have no idea what to take for HSS...

You know the updated list is out right?

Source: http://www.undergrad.engineering.utoronto.ca/information/calendar/electives.htm

[Rishi]

What about HSS courses?

I'm taking a full year entrepreneurship course and it takes both my CS credits but I have no idea what to take for HSS...
Check out the HPS courses (history of science). Lots of HSS courses that won't bore you to death, though not all are offered every year.

[TheFuteballer]

Check out the HPS courses (history of science). Lots of HSS courses that won't bore you to death, though not all are offered every year.

But don't you have to write essays? I'm trying to avoid ALL essays if I can, I heard SOC101 doesn't have any essays.. just two multiple choice tests?

[TheFuteballer]

You know the updated list is out right?

Source: http://www.undergrad.engineering.utoronto.ca/information/calendar/electives.htm

that's not the full list.. you can technically take "any" Arts Sci course as long as your faculty person approves it

[Rishi]

But don't you have to write essays? I'm trying to avoid ALL essays if I can, I heard SOC101 doesn't have any essays.. just two multiple choice tests?
There are essays but honestly I prefer a course that interests me even if the workload is little more than one that doesn't. As for SOC101, I have heard the same thing as you but multiple choice can be harder than an essay, IMO. Especially in sociology where there are 100s of pages you need to basically have memorized.

[TheFuteballer]

There are essays but honestly I prefer a course that interests me even if the workload is little more than one that doesn't. As for SOC101, I have heard the same thing as you but multiple choice can be harder than an essay, IMO. Especially in sociology where there are 100s of pages you need to basically have memorized.

I'm good with short-term memorization haha so I don't mind too much


anyone know anything about TRN200? looks really interesting but again wondering what the assignments are

edit: Oh also does anyone know the exact process of how we actually sign up for an arts sci course (i.e. the steps we need to take in rosi)? I've never done it before and I want to be able to do it as soon as the site goes live so I can get my spot in lol

[Rishi]

I'm good with short-term memorization haha so I don't mind too much


anyone know anything about TRN200? looks really interesting but again wondering what the assignments are

edit: Oh also does anyone know the exact process of how we actually sign up for an arts sci course (i.e. the steps we need to take in rosi)? I've never done it before and I want to be able to do it as soon as the site goes live so I can get my spot in lol
Beware of enrollment controls on courses offered by specific colleges. They are often totally restricted to students in certain programs.

The enrollment process is simple, go to the Course Enrolment tab of ROSI, and under manage courses input the course code and session code. In advance, check which times are available under "View Timetable/Spaces" and decide which section you want so you can be quick on the trigger on the 13th.

[IBOPM]

that's not the full list.. you can technically take "any" Arts Sci course as long as your faculty person approves it

It's the full list if you don't want to go make an appointment with a counsellor and go through all the BS.

I strongly advise against SOC.

[malaujai]

I had GGR216 lined up but they aren't offering it this year so bad luck.

I also have the HPS course "Technology in the Modern World" or something but am wary of it.

I'm gonna try and get into the ECO100/105 (which should I take again?) and if not, I'll take WDW260 (Org Behavioiur) and then I need to think of another course as well.

Edit: I originally had these courses planned out on Magellan, but now I will need to change it. Perhaps I will drop the APS and GGR and take the ECO course this year, then move WDW260 and HPS202 to 4th year
CS3F: WDW260H1
CS3S: GGR216H1
CS4F: HPS202H1
CS4S: APS304H1

[jeeva86]

I also advise against taking soc101. You'll have 3 books to read entirely by the end of the year. 3 tests that make up 50% and final which is 50%.

[TheFuteballer]

Beware of enrollment controls on courses offered by specific colleges. They are often totally restricted to students in certain programs.

The enrollment process is simple, go to the Course Enrolment tab of ROSI, and under manage courses input the course code and session code. In advance, check which times are available under "View Timetable/Spaces" and decide which section you want so you can be quick on the trigger on the 13th.

Hmm it's wierd, when I try to view timetable / spaces on Rosi for TRN200Y1 it says it's not being offered this year although it's both on the list for HSS courses for engineers and on the art sci calendar... anyone help me out?

[Rishi]

I had GGR216 lined up but they aren't offering it this year so bad luck.

I also have the HPS course "History of Technology" or something but am wary of it.

I'm gonna try and get into the ECO100/105 (which should I take again?) and if not, I'll take WDW260 (Org Behavioiur) and then I need to think of another course as well.
The consensus I've heard on Org Behaviour is it's like watching paint dry, and has a fair number of readings/assignments.

[DeltasInTheSky]

I had GGR216 lined up but they aren't offering it this year so bad luck.

I also have the HPS course "History of Technology" or something but am wary of it.

I'm gonna try and get into the ECO100/105 (which should I take again?) and if not, I'll take WDW260 (Org Behavioiur) and then I need to think of another course as well.

I am thinking of that too. I'm also from Mississauga too, I'm a Sophomore Industrial, you?

[TheFuteballer]

It's the full list if you don't want to go make an appointment with a counsellor and go through all the BS.

I strongly advise against SOC.

You don't need to make an appointment, I already got on approved but they aren't offering it this year.. just go to the office and ask the secretary there, she'll tell you if it's okay or not (that's for ECE anyways)

[Rishi]

Hmm it's wierd, when I try to view timetable / spaces on Rosi for TRN200Y1 it says it's not being offered this year although it's both on the list for HSS courses for engineers and on the art sci calendar... anyone help me out?
The calendar is not definitive and lists many courses which are not offered in a particular year. The timetable is where you should look, and I don't see it there:

http://www.artsandscience.utoronto.ca/ofr/timetable/winter/trin.html
http://www.artsandscience.utoronto.ca/ofr/timetable/winter/sponsors.htm

[malaujai]

I am thinking of that too. I'm also from Mississauga too, I'm a Sophomore Industrial, you?

Going into third year EE :P

[jeeva86]

Can an artsci post the timetables for mgt120h1f/s. I can't see it for some reason. I hope its not cancelled.

[malaujai]

BTW, when I went to check WDW260 spaces, I got this error?

LEC 5101 You do not fit in any enrolment category. There are 40 total spaces in the meeting section.

I entered F and S and got the same

[Rishi]

BTW, when I went to check WDW260 spaces, I got this error?



I entered F and S and got the same
That's normal, you will see that until the 13th when it opens up for engineers.

[DeltasInTheSky]

Is there a way around this?

I'm trying to look up some courses, see what they're about. But since CCNET's down, I probably won't find much, right? I just want to see the course outline or any other public documents, if I can.

[malaujai]

A bit off topic, but I heard they are scrapping CCNet and we will be using Portal next year for Engineers?

back on topic... has anyone taken HPS202 or heard about it? Technology in the modern world...

also, I really want to take GGR216 out of interests, what are the chances that they will revive it for next year and should I take that risk?

[DeltasInTheSky]

A bit off topic, but I heard they are scrapping CCNet and we will be using Portal next year for Engineers?

back on topic... has anyone taken HPS202 or heard about it? Technology in the modern world...

also, I really want to take GGR216 out of interests, what are the chances that they will revive it for next year and should I take that risk?

They already did, way back in May. It's for almost the entire campus, actually.

[IBOPM]

A bit off topic, but I heard they are scrapping CCNet and we will be using Portal next year for Engineers?

back on topic... has anyone taken HPS202 or heard about it? Technology in the modern world...

also, I really want to take GGR216 out of interests, what are the chances that they will revive it for next year and should I take that risk?

HPS is mediocre, not too bad. Decent amount of reading though. A lot of my friends took it.

[kennyc516]

Stupid Question here, but here it goes:
I am currently on PEY,
and I want to take a course during the spring term.
I had fulfilled my HSS course requirements, what's the difference between CS and HSS courses?
and what CS course do u guys recommend taking, preferably a night class.
Is MGT120 (accounting) or any astronomy course considered a CS course?
Thanks!

[IBOPM]

Stupid Question here, but here it goes:
I am currently on PEY,
and I want to take a course during the spring term.
I had fulfilled my HSS course requirements, what's the difference between CS and HSS courses?
and what CS course do u guys recommend taking, preferably a night class.
Is MGT120 (accounting) or any astronomy course considered a CS course?
Thanks!

HSS are a subset of CS courses. So you can take any HSS OR anything that fits in the following:

http://www.undergrad.engineering.utoronto.ca/information/calendar/electives/CS.htm

[DeltasInTheSky]

WDW244H1
Labour Relations [39L]

Introduction to the institutions, issues and legislation affecting the employment relationship in the public and private sectors in Canada, with emphasis on collective bargaining. The economic and political environment, history of the labour movement, union organization, certification, contract negotiation, strikes, dispute resolution, contract administration and grievances.

Exclusion: ECO244Y1, WDW244Y1
Prerequisite: Four courses and a CGPA of at least 2.0


Do these matter for Engineering students?

[IBOPM]

WDW244H1
Labour Relations [39L]

Introduction to the institutions, issues and legislation affecting the employment relationship in the public and private sectors in Canada, with emphasis on collective bargaining. The economic and political environment, history of the labour movement, union organization, certification, contract negotiation, strikes, dispute resolution, contract administration and grievances.

Exclusion: ECO244Y1, WDW244Y1
Prerequisite: Four courses and a CGPA of at least 2.0


Do these matter for Engineering students?

AFAIK, all pre-requisites for Artsci electives are also pre-requisites for engineering students. Engineers don't get any perks when picking courses.

[DeltasInTheSky]

This sucks. I can't find any good Fall electives, and since I'm taking MIE100 in the Winter, there's nothing I can find in the Winter. I wish I could take a distance ed. course at Ryerson or something, in the evening....can I?

[nicoleemily]

hey all =). going into third year chemeng..

i too have heard all the horror stories about ant100, but because my schedule looks horrible right now (don't get me started on my second sem), i can only really pick up RLG100 as my elective for the year. anyone have any comments about that course?

[IBOPM]

hey all =). going into third year chemeng..

i too have heard all the horror stories about ant100, but because my schedule looks horrible right now (don't get me started on my second sem), i can only really pick up RLG100 as my elective for the year. anyone have any comments about that course?

Hey, you're 1T0 as well?

Anyway assuming you haven't looked at it yet, 81% retake according to the anti-calendar. So it can't be all that bad. Click link below for more info.

Source: http://assu.sa.utoronto.ca/pdf/anti_2006/Religion.pdf

[nabil1122]

take ggr107 if u like 4 hours of work over a year,
its a Y course XD

[nicoleemily]

Hey, you're 1T0 as well?

Anyway assuming you haven't looked at it yet, 81% retake according to the anti-calendar. So it can't be all that bad. Click link below for more info.

Source: http://assu.sa.utoronto.ca/pdf/anti_2006/Religion.pdf


hey yup =). CHEM 1T0!

my second sem schedule looks ghastly because of che354 which eats up my time till 7-8pm on three nights out of 5. i saw the ASSU anticalendar and past exams, but was hoping for any insight. to me, it looks similar to the required gr11 religion course (i'm a catholic hs grad). has anyone also heard of HPS318 and RLG232? on such a limited schedule, i'm desperate... i'm pretty much stuck to electives that are on Thursday nights after 5pm. the joys of chemeng...

as well, i've heard from upper years that taking two separate half year courses is better than a full year course because it will weigh less for your gpa (in the event that you do bad). of course that would mean having to take two exams.

[TheFuteballer]

Anyone taken PSY100? seems like an easy / interesting course, albeit a lot of reading but I think it should be fine...

[DeltasInTheSky]

Anyone taken PSY100? seems like an easy / interesting course, albeit a lot of reading but I think it should be fine...

I think it's a science course, I'm not sure cause I know it's somewhat related with life science.

[DeltasInTheSky]

For Distribution Requirement purposes, all PSY courses are classified as SCIENCE courses.

http://www.artsandscience.utoronto.ca/ofr/calendar/crs_psy.htm#PSY100H1

[skev13]

I took HPS201 and HPS282(equiv of 202)

Thought they were both great.

[Eyies]

I took GGR2##, Geography of Canada. Pretty easy, not much workload (just a few papers, pretty easy if you did alright in High School english) ended up with an above average, but mediocre mark.

Also took PHL2##, Ethics. Was a summer course, kinda alright typical readings and write a few papers. Similar work load as Geography of Canada similar marks.

Looking to hopefully take ECO100 for my 4th year.

[Rishi]

Anyone taken PSY100? seems like an easy / interesting course, albeit a lot of reading but I think it should be fine...
It's one of those Con Hall lectures, if you don't mind that I guess it's alright.

[kennyc516]

Has anyone heard anything about GGR124?
Thanks :lol:

[Rishi]

Has anyone heard anything about GGR124?
Thanks :lol:
One of my friends took it, the book you have to do readings from only makes sense when you're high. Seriously, the language is that convoluted.

[kennyc516]

One of my friends took it, the book you have to do readings from only makes sense when you're high. Seriously, the language is that convoluted.

Could you ask your friend if the course is considered easy or not?
And how's the workload, (ie, 2 essays per term?)
Thanks, because I think this is one of the few courses that can fit my schedule and I want to make sure I choose the easiest one possible :lol:

[nicoleemily]

has anyone heard of anyone taking RLG232 - Religion & Film? I've emailed the RLG faculty and even they wouldn't send me a syllabus! Any feedback?

...it's one of the few courses that are offered on Thursday nights in 2nd sem

[malaujai]

I'm thinking of taking ECO105 during third year... good/bad idea?

oh and is it possible to see when the lec/tut sections for these electives are?

[Rishi]

Could you ask your friend if the course is considered easy or not?
And how's the workload, (ie, 2 essays per term?)
Thanks, because I think this is one of the few courses that can fit my schedule and I want to make sure I choose the easiest one possible :lol:
Two assignments as well as a midterm and final. The prof (Cowen) is excellent, very personable and easy to understand, from what my friend says.

@the person above me - yes, check the timetable on the A&S website or type the course code into ROSI under Course Enrolment -> View Timetable/Spaces.

[strwbry_joyce]

I can only pick electives that fit in my schedule with no conflicts right??
any suggestion for a winter elective?

[xilinx]

Why is ANT100 bad?

took it last year...course final average was C-...which is pretty low...wasn't bell curved at all...

the material is intrinsically boring...and the profs try...but it doesn't help...who really cares why everybody wants to keep their lawns green?

basically for multiple choice, they'll ask for really small facts like those lil snippets you read in your textbook...

if u can memorize a phonebook of useless facts...then ant100 is the subject for you...

needless to say, it was my lowest mark that year...but i guess partly due to the fact that i valued my engineering courses more...and put in waay more effort on those....i think i only attended like about half the ant100 lectures...SOO BORING =p

[kennyc516]

Two assignments as well as a midterm and final. The prof (Cowen) is excellent, very personable and easy to understand, from what my friend says.

@the person above me - yes, check the timetable on the A&S website or type the course code into ROSI under Course Enrolment -> View Timetable/Spaces.

Thanks Rishi,
I am currently on PEY right now, so GGR124 has the perfect time for me.

Last question,
engineers can choose this course as their CS course right?
The website is unclear, and I emailed the people in the office last week but still have not gotten a reply yet :lol:

[Rishi]

Thanks Rishi,
I am currently on PEY right now, so GGR124 has the perfect time for me.

Last question,
engineers can choose this course as their CS course right?
The website is unclear, and I emailed the people in the office last week but still have not gotten a reply yet :lol:
Hmm, from reading the website it's not clear that it is acceptable for CS. I don't see why it shouldn't be, though. What discipline are you in? The NSci counselors usually get back to me within 2-3 business days.

[march9]

I wanted to take ECO105, but can I still go to Ecoman? Cuz I heard Ecoman is really helpful I am just wondering if it's gonna be relevant to ECO105. Also, is ECO105 too watered down compare to ECO100? I still want to learn something as opposed to something so commonly understood.

also does anyone have insights on ANT253H1F? Prof Dansei is teaching it.

[malaujai]

I wanted to take ECO105, but can I still go to Ecoman? Cuz I heard Ecoman is really helpful I am just wondering if it's gonna be relevant to ECO105. Also, is ECO105 too watered down compare to ECO100? I still want to learn something as opposed to something so commonly understood.

also does anyone have insights on ANT253H1F? Prof Dansei is teaching it.

Ya, I'm wondering if it is a good idea to take ECO100 in third year ECE... most people I know are taking it in 4th year or have taken it in 4th year and I don't understand why...

Also, it seems that the only section for this course that I can attend is the MWF12-1 lecture section...

Edit:

Seems I may have a few options..

HPS202 in the Fall + WDW260 in the Winter
or
ECO100 for the year..

Also, I wanted to know that if for example, http://www.artsandscience.utoronto.ca/ofr/timetable/winter/wdw.html on that website, there is no Tutorial or Practical listed, does that mean the course doesn't have such classes?

[laser7500]

I also took ANT100. Run away. Run as far as you can.

Its very easy to get a decent mark, its impossible to get a good mark. I know several people for whom this course wrecked their 4.0

If you do decide to take this course, don't even bother with the lectures. The real way to study for this course is just get a load of the past exams and just go through them with a group of your friends. They recycle the questions a lot.

Doing this will get you a 70 (its what I got). My friends who actually went to most classes got a 77-80 (these are the 4.0 crowd, i'm more in the 2.8 range, so 70 is fine with me).

Courses I'm looking at that seem at least slightly interesting are as follows:

ARC131/132/231/231
CLA204/230/232
ECO100
GGR252
HPS210/211/307
JGE347/348
PHL100/232/271 (100 taught by kingwell is apparently excellent)

Anyone have any thoughts on these? I think I'm leaning toward PHL100, but have by no means decided yet.


took it last year...course final average was C-...which is pretty low...wasn't bell curved at all...

the material is intrinsically boring...and the profs try...but it doesn't help...who really cares why everybody wants to keep their lawns green?

basically for multiple choice, they'll ask for really small facts like those lil snippets you read in your textbook...

if u can memorize a phonebook of useless facts...then ant100 is the subject for you...

needless to say, it was my lowest mark that year...but i guess partly due to the fact that i valued my engineering courses more...and put in waay more effort on those....i think i only attended like about half the ant100 lectures...SOO BORING =p

[Rishi]

Rumour has it that GGR252 is the mother of all bird courses.

[IBOPM]

Rumour has it that GGR252 is the mother of all bird courses.

It is ridiculously easy, but you will NOT get above 82. Most people get around 75. It's a course with an extremely small standard deviation if you know what I mean.

[malaujai]

I need to decide between

GGR252 Winter term Thursday 5-7

or

JGI216 Winter term Friday 10-12

To be honest, I'd rather finish earlier on Thursday and have class on Friday morning.

Looking at the courses though, I heard GGR252 (Marketing Geo) is very very easy, but I think I would be more interested in JGI216 (Urbanization and Global Change)... I've also heard that the prof for JGI216 is hot :D

Anyone have experiences with JGI or GGR or both?

[IBOPM]

I need to decide between

GGR252 Winter term Thursday 5-7

or

JGI216 Winter term Friday 10-12

To be honest, I'd rather finish earlier on Thursday and have class on Friday morning.

Looking at the courses though, I heard GGR252 (Marketing Geo) is very very easy, but I think I would be more interested in JGI216 (Urbanization and Global Change)... I've also heard that the prof for JGI216 is hot :D

Anyone have experiences with JGI or GGR or both?

I did GGR, don't do it. Run very far away. Very little work, but very low marks. It's as if they automatically subtract 20 points after they mark your work.

[march9]

anyone has experiences w/ FAH101 H1F, monuments in art history?

also say I am gonna chose one F courses, and one S courses for electives, Can I wait until Jan. to choose S course?

[laser7500]

I haven't taken that course, but from what I've heard (albeit only from one person, so don't take this as gospel), its not that great either.

You *could* choose the S course later, but remember: most others will have chosen it now and lots of courses will have filled up.

anyone has experiences w/ FAH101 H1F, monuments in art history?

also say I am gonna chose one F courses, and one S courses for electives, Can I wait until Jan. to choose S course?

[malaujai]

"word on the street" is that ECO105 and ECO100 are full already... before engineers got their hands to it

can anyone confirm this?

i got this confirmed by a friend in life sci (they had restrictions lifted on friday.... probably why its full already)

[Rishi]

"word on the street" is that ECO105 and ECO100 are full already... before engineers got their hands to it

can anyone confirm this?

i got this confirmed by a friend in life sci (they had restrictions lifted on friday.... probably why its full already)
Roger, it's all full (report from friend in math).

[IBOPM]

What's the number on the waiting list?

[TheFuteballer]

yup my friend called the faculty they said it was full as well

[malaujai]

there is no waiting list...

i'm considering CLA160H1F... has anyone taken this?

how about EAS102Y?

[skev13]

there is no waiting list...

i'm considering CLA160H1F... has anyone taken this?

how about EAS102Y?

I say go with the HPS, from when I took it, you had one midterm (short answer, multiple choice), one essay (book review), attendance/participation marks in tutorial, and the final (which is the same as the midterm, but with an added essay question).

[malaujai]

I say go with the HPS, from when I took it, you had one midterm (short answer, multiple choice), one essay (book review), attendance/participation marks in tutorial, and the final (which is the same as the midterm, but with an added essay question).

i'd like to... but i can't get it in my timetable haha

u mean HPS202 right?

[acetace]

Don't ever take those stupid memorization/reading/multiple choice type exams such as ANT/SOC. These courses are so retardely tested.

Yea, you can take utsc courses. I know you can take the intro to mgmt, cuz couple guys last year took it.

Coming from scarborough and taken the intro to management course I can tell you it is pretty much a memorization course as well. Good luck if you think that none of the "Introduction to...." or any other year one courses will not be based on memorization.

[young__baller]

does anyone have any idea about GGR246 Geo of Canada and GGR254 Geo of USA?

I wanted to take GGR252 but its on thu 5-7 and i have a lab from 3-6 every other week. Is it advisable to still take that course?

[malaujai]

^ I plan on taking it... GGR252 that is.. its got spaces open for the lecture, but I am feeling a bit skeptical right now because it says the tutorials were cancelled and as of yesterday... there were 198 spaces open (I think out of 200).

Hopefully they only cancelled the tutorials because the course wasn't supposed to have them in the first place...

[young__baller]

Is there any other course that's really easy to take for us engineers? I don't want to take any essay courses...

[IBOPM]

does anyone have any idea about GGR246 Geo of Canada and GGR254 Geo of USA?

I wanted to take GGR252 but its on thu 5-7 and i have a lab from 3-6 every other week. Is it advisable to still take that course?

^ I plan on taking it... GGR252 that is.. its got spaces open for the lecture, but I am feeling a bit skeptical right now because it says the tutorials were cancelled and as of yesterday... there were 198 spaces open (I think out of 200).

Hopefully they only cancelled the tutorials because the course wasn't supposed to have them in the first place...

Why are you all taking GGR252 even with all my warnings?!?!

[Rishi]

Damn, even the new APS courses can't fit in my schedule. I'm going to have to take freaking Geology. I won't even be able to talk smack about the MIN kids now. :(

[young__baller]

I am in min nyone know any easy geology course?...
i was reading that ggr254 is pretty easy...

[malaujai]

Why are you all taking GGR252 even with all my warnings?!?!

nothing else fits in my timetable

[Eyies]

I took GGR246.

Pretty easy course, interesting prof. whom loves to talk about his background and heritage. Just basically typical readings + papers style course.

Course work is not heavy given you are reasonably adept in reading and formulating your ideas into words. With minimal effort, I was able to get a pretty decent above average mark (I'm an average student in Engineering courses).

[young__baller]

I took GGR246.

Pretty easy course, interesting prof. whom loves to talk about his background and heritage. Just basically typical readings + papers style course.

Course work is not heavy given you are reasonably adept in reading and formulating your ideas into words. With minimal effort, I was able to get a pretty decent above average mark (I'm an average student in Engineering courses).

Hey thanx for your feedback. Yeah thats the only course that fits my schedule other than GGR254-Geo of USA. As long as we don't have to write bunch of essays or papers liek APS111 or 112. Was a pain in the ass

[malaujai]

Why are you all taking GGR252 even with all my warnings?!?!

Forgot to ask!!!

When you took this course, was there tutorials for it? Or only the lecture sections and thats it?

[IBOPM]

Forgot to ask!!!

When you took this course, was there tutorials for it? Or only the lecture sections and thats it?

Yes, but they happen once ever 3 weeks or so. Their primary purpose is for you to hand in your assignment and to receive the next assignment.

[malaujai]

Yes, but they happen once ever 3 weeks or so. Their primary purpose is for you to hand in your assignment and to receive the next assignment.

Are these "official" tutorial sections, or just informal drop off/pickup times?

I'm a bit worried if they cancel the course or not because the tutorials are listed as "cancelled"....

#1) I don't know if this tutorial will even fit in my timetable if it has a section

#2) Cancelled tutorials --> Cancelled Course?

[pagan_punjabi]

Has anyone taken this course, or know what it's about?

I'm a bit stuck for electives this fall...

[sicuro]

Geography and language courses (only for ppl from certain countries.. unless if youre canadian and wanna learn chinese or somethin haha)

i think those would be great for electives, not a lot of workload and pulls your gpa

does anyone kno more easy courses at UTSC? i wanna consider them for electives

[DeltasInTheSky]

Has anyone taken this course, or know what it's about?

I'm a bit stuck for electives this fall...

Run a search. Consensus was that the course isn't an "elective"-elective, it's quite demanding.

[Heresy]

I'd go for economics... this year there were still still ~60 spots left in ECO105 before enrollment priority was lifted on August 8th - all you had to do was log in to ROSI at 12AM and take a spot ASAP.

[pretender]

I think it might be game over for ECO100 and 105 since both of their 5xxx sections (that are usually open to engineers) are full according to ROSI.

Also, enrollment restrictions are lifted at 6:00am according to the undergrad website.

[eightyeight]

Just in case, for some horrible reason, someone is still considering taking ANT100 after reading this thread:

HOLY **** RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.

I wasted probably 100 hours (50 hours of lecture alone..) of my life on this course. The 1st half of the course is murder. The second half is somewhat interesting, but that's just so that it makes people second guess dropping this POS Y course before that last day to drop.. Then the 2nd midterm and final kick you square in the groin..

But, because of this course, I now know the following things:

1. What a 'Gibbons' is.
2. What a 'Tarsier' is.
3. The difference between an aspirated 'p' and an unaspirated 'p'.

Google those three things and you now have no reason to take the course!

But, if you are STILL considering the course - no one can help you. Just take it you ArtSci in disguise.

[IBOPM]

Are these "official" tutorial sections, or just informal drop off/pickup times?

I'm a bit worried if they cancel the course or not because the tutorials are listed as "cancelled"....

#1) I don't know if this tutorial will even fit in my timetable if it has a section

#2) Cancelled tutorials --> Cancelled Course?

1) Look at the times for the tutorials by checking on ROSI.
2) No, this course will NOT be cancelled EVER, because Prof. Swales need it to sell his textbooks and make a living.

EDIT: My bad, it looks really weird for GGR252. No idea what's going on.

I'd go for economics... this year there were still still ~60 spots left in ECO105 before enrollment priority was lifted on August 8th - all you had to do was log in to ROSI at 12AM and take a spot ASAP.

ECO100/105 OOS!

[Heresy]

...

it's too late to pick economics now... there were spaces on August 7th but by the time it was 10AM on the 8th all the spots were gone haha

[tritium4ever]

Anyone have experience with any of the RLG religion courses? Less than 8 hours before registration of electives begins, and I have no idea what I'm gonna choose. :(

[strwbry_joyce]

how are the classic electives like??? any recommendations? really need to find something soon

[Rishi]

how are the classic electives like??? any recommendations? really need to find something soon
I took one called Science in Antiquity (don't remember the course code, it was a CLA). I thought it was pretty interesting, but that's just me.

[Phlegmbot]

how are the classic electives like??? any recommendations? really need to find something soon

I took Intro to Roman History and Latin & Greek in Scientific Terminology.

The Roman history course was OK. But your experience will vary depending on your instructor and your interest in the material. I had to write two essays, do a midterm, and write a final exam. There was a lot of reading, but nothing I couldn't manage. I'd say it was a pretty easy course, in my case.

The Latin & Greek course was great! It really helps if you have a background in either language from high school. There was a lot of 'memorization' - literally hundreds and hundreds of words, stems, roots, whatever. I'm personally interested in this stuff, so I didn't mind it at all. The workload (besides the memorizing) was pretty light. One midterm, one paper, and a final exam.

Believe me, your instructor in arts courses makes much more of a difference than your instructor in engineering courses!

[DeltasInTheSky]

My hopes of taking a course that actually "interests" me, heh, no chance in hell. I'm going to get up at 6AM, just put myself on the waitlist, ugh. Otherwise, I'll just see what I get. I don't get why we are bottom-feeders, we don't get to take...courses...that....actually...interest...us.

Seriously, picking Engineering was a big mistake. I was told about how flexible the program is, if anything it's really one-dimensional. All the courses are just 'do the following from the textbook' types of courses, we get limited amounts/choices of electives to boot. Big, big, mistake.

[Rishi]

My hopes of taking a course that actually "interests" me, heh, no chance in hell. I'm going to get up at 6AM, just put myself on the waitlist, ugh. Otherwise, I'll just see what I get. I don't get why we are bottom-feeders, we don't get to take...courses...that....actually...interest...us.

Seriously, picking Engineering was a big mistake. I was told about how flexible the program is, if anything it's really one-dimensional. All the courses are just 'do the following from the textbook' types of courses, we get limited amounts/choices of electives to boot. Big, big, mistake.
Whoever told you engineering was flexible must have been on serious hallucinogenic drugs at the time.

[DeltasInTheSky]

Warning 0037 0041 - Due to a very high load, your request could not be processed. Please try again momentarily.

[tritium4ever]

I hit the accept button literally the second my computer's clock hit 6am, and managed to snag one of the two spots in the course and section I wanted. :cheesygri

[malaujai]

that was frustrating.

[IBOPM]

that was frustrating.

That was EASY.

I used macros and I got the course I wanted by 6:01 AM. For this course I wanted to get on the wait list for: before 6am there were 53 people in the waitlist. And now, I'm at number 54. Macros work!

[young__baller]

yeah it was frustrating... it took me almost 15minutes to pick my course... but finally ended up with geography of USA... it better not disappoint me...

[march9]

the courses I chose all have more than 60 spaces available, any risk they are gonna get cancelled?

if that happens that is really gonna suck eh...most courses I can't get into..the ones I did get into get cancelled, rolfmao...

[kennyc516]

what are the chances of getting into a course with a waitlist?

I signed up for GGR124H1S,
a total of 188 students could be enrolled in the course.
I am at #33 on the waiting list, is there any chance that I can get the course?

[IBOPM]

what are the chances of getting into a course with a waitlist?

I signed up for GGR124H1S,
a total of 188 students could be enrolled in the course.
I am at #33 on the waiting list, is there any chance that I can get the course?

depends on a lot. but for u i'd say likely. 70% chance?

[strwbry_joyce]

I took Intro to Roman History and Latin & Greek in Scientific Terminology.

The Roman history course was OK. But your experience will vary depending on your instructor and your interest in the material. I had to write two essays, do a midterm, and write a final exam. There was a lot of reading, but nothing I couldn't manage. I'd say it was a pretty easy course, in my case.

The Latin & Greek course was great! It really helps if you have a background in either language from high school. There was a lot of 'memorization' - literally hundreds and hundreds of words, stems, roots, whatever. I'm personally interested in this stuff, so I didn't mind it at all. The workload (besides the memorizing) was pretty light. One midterm, one paper, and a final exam.

Believe me, your instructor in arts courses makes much more of a difference than your instructor in engineering courses!


How are the midterm and exam like for the Latin and Greek Terminology course?? also do they usually have the midterm during class time???

[DeltasInTheSky]

LEC 0101 Currently Waitlisted
Your rank is 25 for 160 total spaces in the meeting section.
WE, FR 1000A-1200P


LEC - Sections with no space available
LEC 5101 Currently Waitlisted
Your rank is 41 for 40 total spaces in the meeting section.
MO 0600P-0900P

What are my chances?

[malaujai]

what are the chances of getting into a course with a waitlist?

I signed up for GGR124H1S,
a total of 188 students could be enrolled in the course.
I am at #33 on the waiting list, is there any chance that I can get the course?

For urbanization, why not try the JGI216H1S version? I'm not sure if there is a difference though...

[kennyc516]

For urbanization, why not try the JGI216H1S version? I'm not sure if there is a difference though...

Thanks for the advice, but I am taking GGR124 because its an evening course.
Can't take anything in the afternoon because it would conflict with my work :lol:
and IBOPM thanks for the advice as well

Why does u of t not reserve ANY spots for engineers to enrol in (artsci courses), and I still dont know why they don't switch to a more powerful server for Rosi. These stuff happens every year, maybe they should do something with the massive amount of tuition that they are raking in

[malaujai]

Thanks for the advice, but I am taking GGR124 because its an evening course.
Can't take anything in the afternoon because it would conflict with my work :lol:
and IBOPM thanks for the advice as well

Why does u of t not reserve ANY spots for engineers to enrol in (artsci courses), and I still dont know why they don't switch to a more powerful server for Rosi. These stuff happens every year, maybe they should do something with the massive amount of tuition that they are raking in

Its friday morning 10-12, but not sure if that would fit with your timetable either :P

Do you know if there are differences between these two?

[keeter]

LEC 0101 Currently Waitlisted
Your rank is 25 for 160 total spaces in the meeting section.
WE, FR 1000A-1200P


LEC - Sections with no space available
LEC 5101 Currently Waitlisted
Your rank is 41 for 40 total spaces in the meeting section.
MO 0600P-0900P

What are my chances?

41 for 40 = 0.2% chance

25 for 160 = 90% chance

[march9]

how about 34 for 198 spaces?

[malaujai]

omfg i heard there spots open for eco105 around 5AM or 6AM WTF

[IBOPM]

I'm 53 for 80. What are my chances?

[dragosinter]

so far all i could fit in my schedule was cla160.. was too late for eco100/105 :mad:
anyone know anything about this course? btw im in year2 industrial.

[malaujai]

is anyone else having trouble getting into ROSI?

i've only been able to succesfully login once this whole morning, but otherwise i get the error:

"A problem was encountered and details are as follows: " with blank details...

[dragosinter]

rosi is fine now.. i had same problem as u.. anyone know anything about this cla160 (intro to classical studies)? whats everyone else taking as their electvies????

[malaujai]

i'm taking CLA160H1F... reluctantly... i'd rather take ECO105 but its pretty tough to get in

[dragosinter]

nice.. so at least i know one person in same class as me. u in engineering too? i went over some exams for cla160 and they seemed pretty fairly easy. do you know if this course runs in semester 2? Or do we have to choose another elective in semester 2?
also, i was thinking i could do 2 electives this semester and then go for a spare the next semester. anyone know if this is possible?
thanks

[malaujai]

yes, i'm going into third year ECE...

do u have a link to those exams?

(you will need to take a course in second term since CLA160 is half year...)

[kennyc516]

For those that might find it helpful:

http://eres.library.utoronto.ca/
Art sci's version of exams.skule.ca

[Hensta8]

If anyone needs GGR 252 gimmie a PM, I'am going to drop it in 3 days so I rather give the spot to an RFDer than some unknown :D

[Tilter]

INI115 = OMG AWFUL, I thought I would just watch movies. They make it much more complicated.

GLG103 is a pretty good course, requires a lot of memorization (word for word response).

GGR252 is by far the best, the course load is weak and you can go into the finals with 90s if you write two good reports (Just buy previous years reports and write it with the ideas that got them amazing marks). Finals is always similar too, same general question worded differently.

For EE Student, you are allowed one Engineering Elective. I took MIE443 (Mechatronics, requires ECE334 pre-req) and this is by far one of the easiest and fun course I ever took. No midterms, no finals. 3 reports about robots you build for competition (RoboCan<--push cans out of circle, RoboPong<--hit ball to opponents site, RoboGolf<--pick up ball and drop in a hole in the middle). Teams are groups of 3, so if you can get 2 other students who are slackers and like an easy mark thats a course for you. Course avg = A-

[kennyc516]

If anyone needs GGR 252 gimmie a PM, I'am going to drop it in 3 days so I rather give the spot to an RFDer than some unknown :D

That wouldn't work, because theres a huge waiting list already :lol:

[malaujai]

if anyone is dropping ECO105 please send me a PM...

i am willing to make a "deal" ;)

[pagan_punjabi]

CLA233 looks interesting...but has conflicting messages from the ASSU anti calendar (depending on the prof, 92% retake vs. 78%).

Do any of you guys know about this course?

[azko]

anyone taking or have anything to say about RLG280Y1?

i took it coz it had a good rating on the anticalendar and it fir my schedule nicely. also, it had spaces!! unlike eco105 =(

[jeeva86]

I have a friend who is in ECO100 but might want to switch to 105. If anyone wants to swap ONLY these 2 courses, gimme a PM.

[Muttee]

Hey guys, i took HPS202h1f but just saw the course outline and its boring and aweful..So I have the following options:

GGR107H1F 32 out of 400 waitlist
PHL275H1 - Intro ethics
RLG230H1
ANT253H1 F - Language & Society
GLG103H1 F - Geol in Public Issue
ECE488H1F - Entrepreneurship and small business

Which one would you guys prefer? Should i stick with HPS202?

Btw I am taking PHL295H1S for spring - its Business Ethics, any comments on that?

[cfc11]

PHL295 is an interesting course....but I don't think is a bird course.

I find FSL100 very easy.
I also took PHL346 and PHL356, not a lot of work for both courses....the class average was like B+!!!!
PHL345 was easy too.




Hey guys, i took HPS202h1f but just saw the course outline and its boring and aweful..So I have the following options:

GGR107H1F 32 out of 400 waitlist
PHL275H1 - Intro ethics
RLG230H1
ANT253H1 F - Language & Society
GLG103H1 F - Geol in Public Issue
ECE488H1F - Entrepreneurship and small business

Which one would you guys prefer? Should i stick with HPS202?

Btw I am taking PHL295H1S for spring - its Business Ethics, any comments on that?

[kazemakaze]

hi,

does anyone want to switch sections of eco100? i have L0301 and im looking to get into 5101, but obviously its all full and the course drop deadline is in Feburary, so no one would drop it.
whoever wants to take prof carr instead of wolfson, please PM me

thanks

[n1cx]

i have to pick my courses in a week. so far i got ggr252 and eco100, does anyone know if ARC131 intro to architecture any good?

[Essence89]

is it me or this year for ECE you cant choose ECO100 or ECO105, is not on the drop down list....

please post more advice on easy courses!!! thanks

[n1cx]

it's a cs so that's probably why it's not in a drop down.

[Essence89]

it's a cs so that's probably why it's not in a drop down.

oh ya..i thought so...time to fight for it in the summer...

anyone taken EEB214H1 S: Evolution and Adaptation before?

[student]

Does anyone here recommend APS234 and APS432? Or is it something that should be avoided.

[aztekxero]

Has anyone taken ENG237 (Science Fiction) or ENG213 (The Short Story)?

[MistaChin]

Marketing Geography is KEY!

[Gamez_girl]

any chance of getting into eco100 if 270 out of 495 or eco105 130/500