Funny Story

[scan]

First off, one of my biggest pet peeves while driving is all the ******* drivers who go onto merging lanes just to get 2-3 cars ahead when the traffic isn't going anywhere. You know who you are.

So I'm heading home from work last week and the route I take requires to go on this road that ends and merges with the main road. The road has a merging lane because it's right next to a condo complex where residents use to merge out. I always see cars go onto the merging lane pass by a few cars and force themselves back in.

Well the other day I was directly behind this white GMC Sierra van on this very road. The van was 4 cars behind where the merge lane ends and decides he wants to pass by the all the aforementioned cars. Everyone sees this and no one lets him in. As I'm approaching I go right up the bumper of the car in front of me so he can't get in, therefore, making his selfish move useless and producing a negative result. I saw my rear view mirror that the car behind me left a wide gap for him to come in. He could have just went in quietly, hopefully learning his lesson and never try to cut anyone off again, but yet he drives onto the shoulder next to my car and yells at me. LOL!

He said: "You couldn't give me that spot?!?! What's wrong with you!"

I said: "You had this spot but you left it. Oh well... bye!"

[illusion81]

Hilarious! :rolleyes:

[bythehour]

Haha! Good for you!

It's amazing how some people drive; like it's their God-given right to be a$$holes!

I almost got sideswiped by this RS350 a few weeks ago because the idiot didn't check his mirrors or his blind spot before changing lanes. Of course, I honked at him. He was STARTLED, which obviously upset him. I mean, he's FLIPPING MAD...at me! So much so that he pulls behind me, and then over to the shoulder. He floors it and races beside me. As he passes, he waves gives me the middle finger salute while yelling something (couldn't hear; his window was closed!).

I ignore him, while my wife is howling with laughter at his rage...as are the drivers in the cars to my right....

[new_vr]

Haha! Good for you!

It's amazing how some people drive; like it's their God-given right to be a$$holes!

I almost got sideswiped by this RS350 a few weeks ago because the idiot didn't check his mirrors or his blind spot before changing lanes. Of course, I honked at him. He was STARTLED, which obviously upset him. I mean, he's FLIPPING MAD...at me! So much so that he pulls behind me, and then over to the shoulder. He floors it and races beside me. As he passes, he waves gives me the middle finger salute while yelling something (couldn't hear; his window was closed!).

I ignore him, while my wife is howling with laughter at his rage...as are the drivers in the cars to my right....
I have had the same reaction on a few occasions...you honk at someone who is going to hit you, because they aren't paying attention to the road, and they get mad at you :S

[myversa]

I never let someone like that in neither.... If everyone lines up like they should, the traffic would not be that bad.

[scan]

I never let someone like that in neither.... If everyone lines up like they should, the traffic would not be that bad.


If it's up to me I don't let them in. Unfortunately, most of the time I'm out of position and cars ahead of me lets them in.

That isn't to say I don't let cars in. I let cars in, turn left on busy roads, etc all the time. I just don't tolerate a$$hole drivers.

[Amuthini]

way to go, you're the man.

[Teletran]

I see people doing this all the time on highways. They come out of their lane, go into the merging lane and attempt to get ahead by a dozen cars or so.

Whenever I see someone doing this, I pull out of my lane and get into the merging lane and prevent them from going any further. Once a guy honked at me and I just simply honked back. Some people are really really annoying drivers.

Equally as annoying are the people that are entering the highway and drive right to the end of the merging lane and merge in there causing a bottle neck in the traffic even though there was plenty of space to merge in earlier. I always leave space for people in front of me to merge into the highway, but the majority simply drive right to the end of the merging lane and cause a bottle neck.

Some days I wish I was driving a car made purely out of heavy steel so that when people drive like morons, I just smash into them to teach them a lesson lol!! j/k

[scan]

I see people doing this all the time on highways. They come out of their lane, go into the merging lane and attempt to get ahead by a dozen cars or so.

Whenever I see someone doing this, I pull out of my lane and get into the merging lane and prevent them from going any further. Once a guy honked at me and I just simply honked back. Some people are really really annoying drivers.

HAHA that is AWESOME. I've never thought of doing this but man you got balls.


Some days I wish I was driving a car made purely out of heavy steel so that when people drive like morons, I just smash into them to teach them a lesson lol!! j/k

don't lie. You're not joking because I wish that sometimes too! lol!

[chickenbones]

I have the same pet peeve.

But there are situations when I'm legitimately try to merge and the car beside me would accelerate to block me. I mean I can understand if I'm cutting you off or "jumping the line", but my lane is ending 'cus there's construction ahead, and we are going 5 km an hour. I'm half way in the lane already, so why block me off??

[scan]

I have the same pet peeve.

But there are situations when I'm legitimately try to merge and the car beside me would accelerate to block me. I mean I can understand if I'm cutting you off or "jumping the line", but my lane is ending 'cus there's construction ahead, and we are going 5 km an hour. I'm half way in the lane already, so why block me off??

but if I understand you correctly that isn't the same. If you're merging onto the road then whoever doesn't let you in is the a-hole. If you on the road already, then drive out to the merging lane and come back in, just to pass a few cars, then you're the a-hole and it's actually a driving violation. The double lines on roads means you can't go on the lane, you can only get off it.

[rems]

I have the same pet peeve.

But there are situations when I'm legitimately try to merge and the car beside me would accelerate to block me. I mean I can understand if I'm cutting you off or "jumping the line", but my lane is ending 'cus there's construction ahead, and we are going 5 km an hour. I'm half way in the lane already, so why block me off??

well as long as you're not going all the way to the very end of the road I'd let you in. But I never let in people when there are posted signs like 2kms away saying the lane is ending. If I can wait, you can wait. and I hate when people signal that they want in and assume right of way just cuz they're signalling.

[ES_Revenge]

If you on the road already, then drive out to the merging lane and come back in, just to pass a few cars, then you're the a-hole and it's actually a driving violation. The double lines on roads means you can't go on the lane, you can only get off it.
You mean the freqency bars? Who told you that? If that were the case you'd never be able to get off the highway because exits where that lane "must exit" all have frequency bars as well.

Also where is the proof that it's "actually a driving violation"?

If the lane that is ending is on the right, then the person that is in the lane ending has the right of way unless they have a yield sign. Meaning of course that what you did was the violation (not yielding the right of way where required).

Not really a "funny" story. Though I don't condone people doing something stupid like that, right of way is right of way. If you're driving around some residential roads and you're going like 20 or there is a buildup of cars and someone in front of you takes some other streets, zooms around, and arrives at a multi-way stop sign before you, are you going to blow the stop sign to cut them off because you determined they were impatient/stupid? :rolleyes: I suppose that would be a real knee-slapper eh?

Again I don't condone such stupidness as going in a lane that you know is ending in 100m to get past a couple cars, but I also don't condone what you did either--it's pretty much just as stupid a move. How "funny" would you thought it have been had you got into an accident over this?

Judging by the guy's reaction you certainly didn't "teach him a lesson", and you're really not a "hero" either. Even if some people here agree with you what did you accomplish? You just pulled a silly and potentially dangerous illegal move, on purpose, to glorify it by posting it on RFD? Wow, good stuff!

[ct027]

well as long as you're not going all the way to the very end of the road I'd let you in. But I never let in people when there are posted signs like 2kms away saying the lane is ending. If I can wait, you can wait. and I hate when people signal that they want in and assume right of way just cuz they're signalling.

I thought you are supposed to go the end of the lane that is about to end and then merge so that you don't block cars behind you.

[Tomy]

You mean the freqency bars? Who told you that? If that were the case you'd never be able to get off the highway because exits where that lane "must exit" all have frequency bars as well.

Also where is the proof that it's "actually a driving violation"?

If the lane that is ending is on the right, then the person that is in the lane ending has the right of way unless they have a yield sign. Meaning of course that what you did was the violation (not yielding the right of way where required).

Not really a "funny" story. Though I don't condone people doing something stupid like that, right of way is right of way. If you're driving around some residential roads and you're going like 20 or there is a buildup of cars and someone in front of you takes some other streets, zooms around, and arrives at a multi-way stop sign before you, are you going to blow the stop sign to cut them off because you determined they were impatient/stupid? :rolleyes: I suppose that would be a real knee-slapper eh?

Again I don't condone such stupidness as going in a lane that you know is ending in 100m to get past a couple cars, but I also don't condone what you did either--it's pretty much just as stupid a move. How "funny" would you thought it have been had you got into an accident over this?

Judging by the guy's reaction you certainly didn't "teach him a lesson", and you're really not a "hero" either. Even if some people here agree with you what did you accomplish? You just pulled a silly and potentially dangerous illegal move, on purpose, to glorify it by posting it on RFD? Wow, good stuff!

do u drive a white van?

[rems]

If the lane that is ending is on the right, then the person that is in the lane ending has the right of way unless they have a yield sign. Meaning of course that what you did was the violation (not yielding the right of way where required).



I thought if you're merging into the highway, then you have to yield. The highway traffic has right of way, no? Cuz technically there's supposed to be 3 second gaps between cars where you can merge into.

I thought you are supposed to go the end of the lane that is about to end and then merge so that you don't block cars behind you.

If that was the case then the lane next to the one that's ending would barely move if this was standstill traffic.

[dealmeone]

Didn't you realize how much better he was than the rest of the world and how much more valuable his time is than everybody else's???
Few things make me laugh more than A-holes like that who try to get ahead by pushing others out of "their" way, only to end up further behind. Good on that jerk and all of the others just like him (Toronto is full of them!).

[thephenom]

Nope, my favourite is still box-ing in the impatient drivers weaving through traffics. :D

[scan]

You mean the freqency bars? Who told you that? If that were the case you'd never be able to get off the highway because exits where that lane "must exit" all have frequency bars as well.

Also where is the proof that it's "actually a driving violation"?

I have no clue what you're talking about. I'm talking about merging lanes, not exiting lanes. Exiting lanes are not merging lanes. If they happen to be the same lane, you will not see the same dotted line, which is clearly not what I'm referring to.



If the lane that is ending is on the right, then the person that is in the lane ending has the right of way unless they have a yield sign. Meaning of course that what you did was the violation (not yielding the right of way where required).
haha. ain't that the joke of the day. I don't think you understand the purpose of the yield sign as you make no sense.


Not really a "funny" story. Though I don't condone people doing something stupid like that, right of way is right of way. If you're driving around some residential roads and you're going like 20 or there is a buildup of cars and someone in front of you takes some other streets, zooms around, and arrives at a multi-way stop sign before you, are you going to blow the stop sign to cut them off because you determined they were impatient/stupid? :rolleyes: I suppose that would be a real knee-slapper eh?

Again I don't condone such stupidness as going in a lane that you know is ending in 100m to get past a couple cars, but I also don't condone what you did either--it's pretty much just as stupid a move. How "funny" would you thought it have been had you got into an accident over this?

I have no clue what you're rambling about as you're completely side tracking from the original story making up some stupid hypothetical situation and telling me what I would do.

Being the joke that you are around here, I'm surprised you didn't add a "Civics sucks" line in there somewhere.

It would have been even more funny if there was an accident and the driver tried to claim I was at fault because he had right of way. Man, do I wish now that happened.


Judging by the guy's reaction you certainly didn't "teach him a lesson", and you're really not a "hero" either. Even if some people here agree with you what did you accomplish? You just pulled a silly and potentially dangerous illegal move, on purpose, to glorify it by posting it on RFD? Wow, good stuff!

Yeah this happened last week. That means I came right on RFD to "brag" about it. I'm actually at work and being a slow day I'm participating on the RFD forums to pass the time. Is that okay with you?

Yeah it probably didn't teach him a lesson, literally, but its funny when a$$holes don't get their way.

Maybe you own the white van?

[Tomy]

regardless of doing the "right" or "wrong" thing..

safety comes first, just because u want to teach them a lesson, it shouldn't come at the expense of you and others around you or other cars around you.

[scan]

I thought you are supposed to go the end of the lane that is about to end and then merge so that you don't block cars behind you.

well you don't HAVE to as you should really merge when it's safe. What I'm talking about is you've already merged and you go back on the merging lane to pass people and merge back in.

[scan]

regardless of doing the "right" or "wrong" thing..

safety comes first, just because u want to teach them a lesson, it shouldn't come at the expense of you and others around you or other cars around you.

Yes true. But if there was anything dangerous it would be the driver purposefully hitting me. I'm probably one of the safest drivers out there. People think I'm too safe (if there's such a thing). But if someone intentionally hits me with cars all around me then there's nothing I can do. You may say well I could have just let him in but then I'd be driving in fear (that he will probably/purposefully hit me if I don't let him in). You can't drive in fear. That would be unsafe, rather than safe.

[ct027]

well you don't HAVE to as you should really merge when it's safe. What I'm talking about is you've already merged and you go back on the merging lane to pass people and merge back in.

Yea, I understood what you were saying and I did take the thread a bit off topic. I do agree that these people are a-holes but you must be careful when doing this during stop-and-go or stand-still traffic. You never know who you are dealing with.

[scan]

Yea, I understood what you were saying and I did take the thread a bit off topic. I do agree that these people are a-holes but you must be careful when doing this during stop-and-go or stand-still traffic. You never know who you are dealing with.

that is true. I've heard some horror stories out there.

[ES_Revenge]

I have no clue what you're talking about.
Oh so you don't know what frequency lines/bars are? Good thing you're driving on the roads then :rolleyes:

I'm talking about merging lanes, not exiting lanes. Exiting lanes are not merging lanes. If they happen to be the same lane, you will not see the same dotted line, which is clearly not what I'm referring to.
I've never seen merging lanes have any different markings than exiting lanes. They both have freqency lines.

Here's some pictures for you since you decided to skip driver's ed, the law, and head right to "teaching people lessons" on the road :rolleyes:

Entering/merging lane:
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2.9.1.shtml
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/graphics/handbook_drivers/2-44.jpg

Must exit lane:
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2.9.3.shtml
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/graphics/handbook_drivers/2-45.jpg


haha. ain't that the joke of the day. I don't think you understand the purpose of the yield sign as you make no sense.
Actually I know exactly what the purpose of a yield sign is, and what I wrote makes perfect sense. AND it's not funny. It's disgusting. Disgusting that you do not know the rules of the road yet you laugh at facts about the rules of the road and then you are "teaching lessons" and driving unsafely.

I have no clue what you're rambling about as you're completely side tracking from the original story making up some stupid hypothetical situation and telling me what I would do.
No I'm telling what happened (unless the lane that was ending that you were talking about was on the left, which would be a different story but you did not specify).

Being the joke that you are around here, I'm surprised you didn't add a "Civics sucks" line in there somewhere.
Civics do suck but that's an opinion of mine. Rules of the road and road signs and markings aren't opinion.

Wait I'm "the joke around here". ROTFLMFAO. :lol: Oookaaay then...

You make up crap about what are and aren't violations with no proof/reference, make up stories about lane markings which aren't correct, and again you are driving on the roads. Without a clue, totally ignorant about them, and then you start telling people that you know what you're talking about and they don't when they can easily show proof (driver's handbook, HTA, etc.) when you just have your imagination :confused:

Why don't you tell a police officer about your "funny" story when they pull you over for not having a damn clue about anything on the road except what you make up? That will go over real well.

The unfortunate part of this is that you'll just keep on driving like you do because police don't seem to pull people like you over because they are too busy focusing on speeders and little else :(

It would have been even more funny if there was an accident and the driver tried to claim I was at fault because he had right of way. Man, do I wish now that happened.
Of course you did. Because safe/good drivers always wish for accidents :rolleyes:

Yeah this happened last week. That means I came right on RFD to "brag" about it. I'm actually at work and being a slow day I'm participating on the RFD forums to pass the time. Is that okay with you?
It's fine with me if you want to make a fool of yourself and go on about how bad a driver you are, sure. And yes you did come here to brag, that's pretty clear from the entire nature of the thread you started. Trust me you aren't fooling anyone.

Yeah it probably didn't teach him a lesson, literally, but its funny when a$$holes don't get their way.
You did sort of get your way though didn't you, when you blocked the guy in the lane-ending?

Maybe you own the white van?
Yeah I own the white van. You figured it all out. Perhaps you should focus more on learning how to drive than using your "investigative powers" to make hillariously improbable, silly statements?

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Oh so you don't know what frequency lines/bars are? Good thing you're driving on the roads then :rolleyes:


I've never seen merging lanes have any different markings than exiting lanes. They both have freqency lines.

Here's some pictures for you since you decided to skip driver's ed, the law, and head right to "teaching people lessons" on the road :rolleyes:

Yeah you're right. I didn't go to driver's ed. Way to ridicule someone for making assumptions. I just have a certificate from Young Drivers of Canada. Ever heard of them?


Entering/merging lane:
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2.9.1.shtml
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/graphics/handbook_drivers/2-44.jpg

Must exit lane:
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2.9.3.shtml
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/graphics/handbook_drivers/2-45.jpg


way to provide pictures. Did you try to read them? It does not contradict what I said earlier nor does it support your theory of right of way. But you did use pictures. *claps* I guess your argument is more compelling now right? The only thing I faulted on was I didn't know the name of the "frequency lines" and perhaps I'm wrong about the law but my source on that law is from a friend working in the Ministry of Transportation. He could be wrong but who knows. I don't have an online source that says it in writing but what do you have?


Actually I know exactly what the purpose of a yield sign is, and what I wrote makes perfect sense. AND it's not funny. It's disgusting. Disgusting that you do not know the rules of the road yet you laugh at facts about the rules of the road and then you are "teaching lessons" and driving unsafely.


so go hit someone when there's no yield sign on a merging lane. Go argue that you had right of way then smart guy. I'll even pay for your damages.



Civics do suck but that's an opinion of mine. Rules of the road and road signs and markings aren't opinion.
yeah and you seem to love to state your opinion when it's completely irrelevant and frankly, no one cares.



Wait I'm "the joke around here". ROTFLMFAO. :lol: Oookaaay then...


I'd like to find someone to state otherwise


You make up crap about what are and aren't violations with no proof/reference, make up stories about lane markings which aren't correct, and again you are driving on the roads. Without a clue, totally ignorant about them, and then you start telling people that you know what you're talking about and they don't when they can easily show proof (driver's handbook, HTA, etc.) when you just have your imagination :confused:

where's your reference? Two pictures that don't even support what you say? LOL yeah that is funny. Perhaps you have trouble reading.


Why don't you tell a police officer about your "funny" story when they pull you over for not having a damn clue about anything on the road except what you make up? That will go over real well.

The unfortunate part of this is that you'll just keep on driving like you do because police don't seem to pull people like you over because they are too busy focusing on speeders and little else :(


If I EVER get pulled over I will. But guess what? I've never been pulled over EVER.


Of course you did. Because safe/good drivers always wish for accidents :rolleyes:


actually, what I learned is there are no 'accidents', only collisions. All accidents are avoidable. But I didn't learn that from drivers ed, no.


It's fine with me if you want to make a fool of yourself and go on about how bad a driver you are, sure. And yes you did come here to brag, that's pretty clear from the entire nature of the thread you started. Trust me you aren't fooling anyone.


I guess I can't fool a fool

[arm2000]

Hey young man, what u did was both illegal and immoral. And yet you have the guts to come here and proudly present it as a funny story. The highway hero is here. And others agree with u. Oh my god.

[Derfel]

I think the OP was right in spirit, in that the driver of the white van was trying to circumvent the "rules" of the road. However, it does not make sense to put others at risk just the prove a point. If I was the car that the OP was behind, I wouldn't have much liked him being so close to my bumper, just because he wanted to show up some other idiot driver.

Too often I see a pair of hotheads yelling and speeding at each other to "prove a point". Chances are the two idiots would end up hurting some other poor schmuck that follows the rules and respects their fellow motorists.

So I say to you, OP - you are slightly better than the driver of the white van. But next time - just let him in and let karma do the rest, please?

[scan]

Hey young man, what u did was both illegal and immoral. And yet you have the guts to come here and proudly present it as a funny story. The highway hero is here. And others agree with u. Oh my god.

pls point out what part was illegal and which part was immoral. Don't use the word if you don't care to back it up. Also, this was not on the highway. If you disagree with my actions, that is fine. You're entitled to your opinion.

[scan]

I think the OP was right in spirit, in that the driver of the white van was trying to circumvent the "rules" of the road. However, it does not make sense to put others at risk just the prove a point. If I was the car that the OP was behind, I wouldn't have much liked him being so close to my bumper, just because he wanted to show up some other idiot driver.

Too often I see a pair of hotheads yelling and speeding at each other to "prove a point". Chances are the two idiots would end up hurting some other poor schmuck that follows the rules and respects their fellow motorists.

So I say to you, OP - you are slightly better than the driver of the white van. But next time - just let him in and let karma do the rest, please?

just to clear things up: all vehicles were stopped at this point and I wasn't going anymore than 3km/h behind the car in front of me. S/he and all the other cars knew exactly what was happening. There was no danger involved. And that was the karma.

[arm2000]

pls point out what part was illegal and which part was immoral. Don't use the word if you don't care to back it up. Also, this was not on the highway. If you disagree with my actions, that is fine. You're entitled to your opinion.

For illegal try this (http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2.2.6.shtml)

[...]
Leave a cushion of space around your vehicle to let other drivers see you and to avoid a collision.
Whenever you follow another vehicle, you need enough space to stop safely if the other vehicle brakes suddenly. A safe following distance is at least two seconds behind the vehicle in front of you. This lets you see around the vehicle ahead and gives you enough distance to stop suddenly.
[...]

It was immoral in many ways. One of them it's that maybe that driver had indeed a good reason to hurry. U never know what are other ppl problems.

U may also take a look at these:
(http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2.10.1.shtml)

[...]
Don’t compete with another driver, or retaliate for what you believe to be inconsiderate behaviour.
If someone else’s driving annoys you, don’t try to “educate” the person. Leave traffic enforcement to the police.
Don’t take other drivers’ mistakes or behaviours personally.
Avoid honking your horn at other drivers, unless absolutely necessary. A light tap on the horn is usually sufficient.
Yield the right-of-way when it is courteous to do so.
Be polite and let other drivers in front of you when they are signalling that they would like to do so.
Don’t return aggression. Avoid eye contact and do not gesture back. Keep away from erratic drivers.
[...]

U said u have a certificate from Young Drivers of Canada. What did they teach u there?

[Derfel]

just to clear things up: all vehicles were stopped at this point and I wasn't going anymore than 3km/h behind the car in front of me. S/he and all the other cars knew exactly what was happening. There was no danger involved. And that was the karma.

... and what happens if an emergency vehicle needs to get through? The vehicle behind you is rear-ended? The vehicle in front of you needs to back up for some reason?

It was very selfish of you to just think of yourself in this situation. Obviously you need some more time on the road (and perhaps some counselling) before you "get" how to drive like a civilized person...

[Frankie3s]

Being a driver of many years I've become to realize that most people who suffer traffic accidents or fatalities tend to deserve them. It seems like everyone is in a rush to go nowhere and are doing everything in their cars (phone, dvd, Internet) but driving.

[Asad_A203]

Wow this turned into a flame war.

Kinda same thing happened today; I was driving down a highway where there is construction; lane is split into two sections; one to go to the main underpass and other diverted for other lane. There is no merging just another lane. So everyone is creeping along doing 40 km/h and this echo doing 90 km/h rips down in the other lane and when he finds out he is in the wrong lane gets stuck in the other lane for at least 16-20 cars before someone lets him (car behind me)...

[MaximDude]

While drivers who butt in like this do piss me off as well, I just wonder what's the point of blocking someone purposely really?

I mean woohoo you blocked the guy from getting in front of you, but yeah so what? Did you teach him such a big lesson that he's never going to do it again? Of course not. He'll do the same thing tomorrow and the same thing a month from now and a year from now etc.

Yeah he's an ass, and I usually swear at people like that in my car, but that's about it. No point in doing anything else which might result in someone getting hurt like what happened to that guy in the SUV a week or two ago who got killed when a guy he was feuding with on the highway suddenly braked in front of him and the SUV guy swerved to avoid him, but ended up flipping his car and dying.

When I drive, I just turn up the music and when other drivers piss me off I swear profusely in my car, but that's about it and I let things slide. You yelling at them doesn't change anything and you never know who you're dealing with. Like it might be your lucky day and you pissed off a nutjob with a gun, then what?

If people had more patience while driving, everyone would probably get to their destinations faster than they are now with all the bitching and road rage.

[scan]

For illegal try this (http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2.2.6.shtml)


You do realize you're using the same reference as ES_Revenge and that section is suggestions on how to drive safely, and not the law.


[...]
Leave a cushion of space around your vehicle to let other drivers see you and to avoid a collision.
Whenever you follow another vehicle, you need enough space to stop safely if the other vehicle brakes suddenly. A safe following distance is at least two seconds behind the vehicle in front of you. This lets you see around the vehicle ahead and gives you enough distance to stop suddenly.

But just to entertain your efforts, I did have enough room to stop safely if the car in front of me did stop suddenly. Since you weren't there I guess you can pass around your judgements on me and say I didn't, right?




It was immoral in many ways. One of them it's that maybe that driver had indeed a good reason to hurry. U never know what are other ppl problems. You can use the same excuse for those who speed, if you really consider it an excuse. It is one's own responsibility to allocate enough time for themselves to get to where they need to go. As for the immorality of the story, you should really look up the definition before you throw the word around. The only immoral part of the story was on behalf of the white van.



U may also take a look at these:
(http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2.10.1.shtml)

[...]
Don’t compete with another driver, or retaliate for what you believe to be inconsiderate behaviour.
If someone else’s driving annoys you, don’t try to “educate” the person. Leave traffic enforcement to the police.
Don’t take other drivers’ mistakes or behaviours personally.
Avoid honking your horn at other drivers, unless absolutely necessary. A light tap on the horn is usually sufficient.
Yield the right-of-way when it is courteous to do so.
Be polite and let other drivers in front of you when they are signalling that they would like to do so.
Don’t return aggression. Avoid eye contact and do not gesture back. Keep away from erratic drivers.
[...]
Let's break this down just for fun. I was merely go straight on my lane. The white van didn't even have the courtesy to signal fyi. No honking on my behalf. Even after being yelled at, I didn't return the aggression and no gesture was made towards the driver on my behalf.


U said u have a certificate from Young Drivers of Canada. What did they teach u there?

Either you're being sarcastic or you're asking me seriously. Either case there is no point in answering you if you don't know already.

[scan]

... and what happens if an emergency vehicle needs to get through? The vehicle behind you is rear-ended? The vehicle in front of you needs to back up for some reason?

It was very selfish of you to just think of yourself in this situation. Obviously you need some more time on the road (and perhaps some counselling) before you "get" how to drive like a civilized person...

You're entitled to your opinion, but don't go make your judgements on me when you don't know me. I'd really like to know how long you've been driving in terms of distance compared myself. Seeing how I've never been in a collision, never been pulled over, I do full stops at stop signs, etc.. I think I'm doing something right out there. But I guess you think you should be doing the policing to decide who is "civilized" enough to drive. You don't agree with my actions and you're entitled to your opinion. No actions will ever satisfy everyone. But seeing how you're going beyond stating your opinion and you're attacking me personally, I don't see why I am bothering answering your post to my thread.

[scan]

I mean woohoo you blocked the guy from getting in front of you, but yeah so what? Did you teach him such a big lesson that he's never going to do it again? Of course not. He'll do the same thing tomorrow and the same thing a month from now and a year from now etc.
If you read the whole thread you'll notice I said: "I know didn't teach him a lesson, literally". I was saying it in the OP as a figure of speech. But you're right. He's an ass and will continue driving like this tomrrow, next month, and for years to come. But I'll admit, I enjoyed the fact that this ass didn't get his way for once.

When I drive, I just turn up the music and when other drivers piss me off I swear profusely in my car, but that's about it and I let things slide. You yelling at them doesn't change anything and you never know who you're dealing with. Like it might be your lucky day and you pissed off a nutjob with a gun, then what?
yeah, you're right but I don't drive/live in fear. I could be walking on the street and someone could think that I looked at him funny and pull a gun on me. What's the point of constantly looking over my shoulder? Not the way to live imo.


If people had more patience while driving, everyone would probably get to their destinations faster than they are now with all the bitching and road rage.

yeah you're right again. If people had more patience then this thread wouldn't exists.

[Derfel]

You're entitled to your opinion, but don't go make your judgements on me when you don't know me. I'd really like to know how long you've been driving in terms of distance compared myself. Seeing how I've never been in a collision, never been pulled over, I do full stops at stop signs, etc.. I think I'm doing something right out there. But I guess you think you should be doing the policing to decide who is "civilized" enough to drive. You don't agree with my actions and you're entitled to your opinion. No actions will ever satisfy everyone. But seeing how you're going beyond stating your opinion and you're attacking me personally, I don't see why I am bothering answering your post to my thread.

I don't know you - but by the actions described in your original post, I know how you drive and react to situations on the road.

The character Jordan Baker in the classic novel "The Great Gatsby" is an excellent fictional character to reference here.

Nick: You're a rotten driver, either you ought to be more careful
or you oughtn't to drive at all.
Jordan: I am careful.
Nick: No you're not.
Jordan: Well, other people are.
Nick: What's that got to do with it?
Jordan: They'll keep out of my way, it takes two to make an accident.
Nick: Suppose you met somebody just as careless as yourself?
Jordan: I hope I never will, I hate careless people. That's why I like you.

The point of this whole thread here is that you think you did a wonderful bit of driving there to block a motorist who tried to "cheat" the system, when in reality all you did is make a fool of yourself and put other people at risk. Heck, even carrying on a conversation with someone in another vehicle in the middle of traffic is a bit of a danger, don't you think?

(As for my driving record... while it isn't relevant, I'll say I've been driving for 14 years, and I'm in the middle of my annual summer road trip. This time I'm in Vancouver.)

[rems]

I don't really see what the OP did to put others at risk. And if I'm interpreting this correctly, the van went to the merging lane on the right to pass cars in front of him. Now we all know that you're supposed to pass cars on the left.

[scan]

I don't really see what the OP did to put others at risk. And if I'm interpreting this correctly, the van went to the merging lane on the right to pass cars in front of him. Now we all know that you're supposed to pass cars on the left.

It's cool. He can continue to try to switch it around on me by making it clear that I put others in danger. OBVIOUSLY, he knows what happened more than me.

Lets see who put who in danger:

White Van:
-swerves out onto merging lane and runs right up to the end trying to cut into people without signalling
-then goes onto the shoulder to catch up to my car
-then yells at me

Me:
-Driving straight at 3km/h waiting for people to turn onto the main road

What a bastard am I. Only reason he's attacking me is because he can't directly respond to the white van.

[Derfel]

Missed a few points:


Me:
-Driving straight at 3km/h waiting for people to turn onto the main road
- Following "right up" to the bumper ahead of him
- Yelling out his window at someone stuck on the shoulder
- Laughing about it



You'll note that I never condoned what the driver of the white van did.

[ichpen]

Equally as annoying are the people that are entering the highway and drive right to the end of the merging lane and merge in there causing a bottle neck in the traffic even though there was plenty of space to merge in earlier. I always leave space for people in front of me to merge into the highway, but the majority simply drive right to the end of the merging lane and cause a bottle neck.

Some days I wish I was driving a car made purely out of heavy steel so that when people drive like morons, I just smash into them to teach them a lesson lol!! j/k

I don't understand what's wrong with merging at the end of your legally allotted merge lane... Would you rather people disregard the existence of the merge lane and simply drive right through to the left lane??? Or maybe you want them to merge early at 30km/h....

The whole point of the merge lane is:

a) give the guy merging enough time to pick up speed so he can merge safely
b) give hwy users a chance to see the cars merging and prepare

I'm within my rights to use as much or as little of the merge lane as required. If I'm coming out of a tight turn, I need some runway to pick up speed and identify a spot that I can merge into.

This is why I also object to something another poster mentioned, blocking the merge lane to avoid people jumping a few spots ahead. You sir are a royal pain and have not thought this through.

We don't need heroes on the highways, we need polite and respectful drivers.

[scan]

I don't understand what's wrong with merging at the end of your legally allotted merge lane... Would you rather people disregard the existence of the merge lane and simply drive right through to the left lane??? Or maybe you want them to merge early at 30km/h....

The whole point of the merge lane is:

a) give the guy merging enough time to pick up speed so he can merge safely
b) give hwy users a chance to see the cars merging and prepare

I'm within my rights to use as much or as little of the merge lane as required. If I'm coming out of a tight turn, I need some runway to pick up speed and identify a spot that I can merge into.

This is why I also object to something another poster mentioned, blocking the merge lane to avoid people jumping a few spots ahead. You sir are a royal pain and have not thought this through.

We don't need heroes on the highways, we need polite and respectful drivers.


I don't know why people continue to mention this. a) he was in the correct lane already b) this was not on the highway c) it has nothing to do with gathering enough speed before entering the highway

Just saying

[scan]

Missed a few points:



You'll note that I never condoned what the driver of the white van did.

well if you are one who will allow a driver, like the one in the whitevan, to do whatever s/he pleases you are.

[veryhuman]

Maybe the driver of the Sierra had to take a dump, after a week of constipation.

[GunnerX]

If it's not a highway then it's just another regular lane that ends and merges. There's no law saying you can't do so.

[scan]

If it's not a highway then it's just another regular lane that ends and merges. There's no law saying you can't do so.


please read the whole thread. Mentions of the law is referring to the conversations re: highway merging. The OP has no mentions on the law.

[GunnerX]

please read the whole thread. Mentions of the law is referring to the conversations re: highway merging. The OP has no mentions on the law.

I did read the whole thread. It's not highway so the guy did nothing wrong. You just didn't like what he did and acted accordingly. However, I fail to find the funny.

[scan]

However, I fail to find the funny.

So you could have just said this(?) I didn't say it would have pleased everyone, but as you can see some did get a chuckle. And again, you along with the 3 would like to voice your opinion. Understood.

[dundaman]

In the end, the OP did what he felt was justice for the van driver trying to get ahead. The van driver was just doing something 'impolite'. I feel like doing that a lot of times too. When we are all stuck, why should you get ahead. But then I realize why the hell does it matter.

How far is he going to get? Why let it bother you? Ya you were rude to a rude person, so what? What did you gain? Some semblence of justice? OK fine. Did it help anybody? Maybe only your feelings. I dont understand peoples need to pull each other down, especially for small matters.

Let idiots be idiots unless they are effecting you. Theres no point getting angry over someone elses problems.

[ichpen]

I don't know why people continue to mention this. a) he was in the correct lane already b) this was not on the highway c) it has nothing to do with gathering enough speed before entering the highway

Just saying

Not referring to the OP. Just what was quoted later.

[ichpen]

In the end, the OP did what he felt was justice for the van driver trying to get ahead. The van driver was just doing something 'impolite'. I feel like doing that a lot of times too. When we are all stuck, why should you get ahead. But then I realize why the hell does it matter.

How far is he going to get? Why let it bother you? Ya you were rude to a rude person, so what? What did you gain? Some semblence of justice? OK fine. Did it help anybody? Maybe only your feelings. I dont understand peoples need to pull each other down, especially for small matters.

Let idiots be idiots unless they are effecting you. Theres no point getting angry over someone elses problems.

Totally agree.

[scan]

In the end, the OP did what he felt was justice for the van driver trying to get ahead. The van driver was just doing something 'impolite'. I feel like doing that a lot of times too. When we are all stuck, why should you get ahead. But then I realize why the hell does it matter.

do you mean: why shouldn't you get ahead? I guess to answer that and your following statement: because everyone else is waiting. What makes you feel like you shoudl get a free pass?

Or are you just saying this because you are one of these drivers? I can't be 100% correct to assume you are since you said you "feel" like doing this all the time, but at this moment I think you are.

Did I do what I did for justice? In a way, yes, but mostly just to take away the satisfaction from one ass from getting away with something that they don't deserve.

How far is he going to get? Why let it bother you?

It didn't bother me. Clearly, it bothered the white van more than myself. If he managed to get in, then great for him but since no one let him in and it was my turn to make the decision to let him in or not, I decided not.

Ya you were rude to a rude person, so what? What did you gain? Some semblence of justice? OK fine. Did it help anybody? I didn't gain anything (of significance), no, but I didn't lose anything either. Does everythign you do result in a gain or help somebody?


Let idiots be idiots unless they are effecting you. Theres no point getting angry over someone elses problems.

Who's getting angry over what? Perhaps you would like to point this out to the white van for his road rage.

[s_tolstov]

This thread is getting out of hand. 'Scan' did nothing illegal, although from his follow ups he might have exaggerated some bits like:

I'm approaching I go right up the bumper of the car in front of me so he can't get in".

Let a**holes do what they please, they'll pay eventually for their carelessness and disregard for other people's safety. Never try to challenge them or teach them a lesson.

As for the concept of karma, nobody can be the enforcer of it. Speaking in technicalities you would have gotten a full bag of karma had you let the van in based on the "forgive your enemies" philosophy. :)

[V A N Q U I S H]

OP, are you talking about the road near the STC, next to the Tridel condos?

[bobby5]

Please, people. Chill out.

Try drive in the 'third world' nations.
You will come across those a**es as soon as you hit the road at any time.
But they don't rage, or 'teach' others a lesson like we do. Or the roads will be littered with flipped over cars, bullet casings, iron bars and maybe dead bodies.
I wonder why we rage so easily when on the road.

OK, the way we drive may be going the way of third world drivers.
But teaching that a** next to us a quick lesson sure won't change things for the better.
If each of us can really be a responsible driver, that would be a good start, regardless of what others be.

[rems]

Please, people. Chill out.

Try drive in the 'third world' nations.
You will come across those a**es as soon as you hit the road at any time.
But they don't rage, or 'teach' others a lesson like we do. Or the roads will be littered with flipped over cars, bullet casings, iron bars and maybe dead bodies.
I wonder why we rage so easily when on the road.

OK, the way we drive may be going the way of third world drivers.
But teaching that a** next to us a quick lesson sure won't change things for the better.
If each of us can really be a responsible driver, that would be a good start, regardless of what others be.

It's not like the OP demonstrated any violence towards the driver of the white van. So don't be so dramatic :-P

[mrlooneytoon]

Equally as annoying are the people that are entering the highway and drive right to the end of the merging lane and merge in there causing a bottle neck in the traffic even though there was plenty of space to merge in earlier. I always leave space for people in front of me to merge into the highway, but the majority simply drive right to the end of the merging lane and cause a bottle neck.

I was taught to go all the way to the end of the merge lane either in traffic or no traffic situations. I think if my merge lane is ending you have to yield, no?

[MaximDude]

yeah, you're right but I don't drive/live in fear. I could be walking on the street and someone could think that I looked at him funny and pull a gun on me. What's the point of constantly looking over my shoulder? Not the way to live imo.


Its not about living or driving in fear. Its about minimizing the chance that you get hurt for no good reason. Sure you could walk down the street and someone could pull a gun on you or maybe a car jumps the curb and slams into you etc. But the point is, why not minimize what you can? Some things and situations are unavoidable, but things like these are pretty much completely avoidable.

Why get into a potentially dangerous situation for no good reason? Probably 99 out of 100 times nothing major will come out of situations like these, but maybe that 1 out of 100 you get unlucky and what could have been a nothing matter turns into someone getting hurt and for what? People with egos who refuse to back down on nothing situations like this? Its plain stupid.

Just take the high road and curse his ass out in your car and let it be. If more people did that, road rage would be non-existent.


I was taught to go all the way to the end of the merge lane either in traffic or no traffic situations. I think if my merge lane is ending you have to yield, no?

That's incorrect. Once you're on the merge lane, you're suppose to enter the highway as soon as there's a safe opening. If there's heavy traffic then you might have to go all the way to the end, but if there's moderate or low traffic, you should definitely merge as soon as you can safely. And usually people either yield or speed up to pass you so there's an opening for you to get in.

[scan]

OP, are you talking about the road near the STC, next to the Tridel condos?

yes

Please, people. Chill out.

Try drive in the 'third world' nations.
You will come across those a**es as soon as you hit the road at any time.
But they don't rage, or 'teach' others a lesson like we do. Or the roads will be littered with flipped over cars, bullet casings, iron bars and maybe dead bodies.
I wonder why we rage so easily when on the road.

OK, the way we drive may be going the way of third world drivers.
But teaching that a** next to us a quick lesson sure won't change things for the better.
If each of us can really be a responsible driver, that would be a good start, regardless of what others be.

whoa. talk about a stretch

Its not about living or driving in fear. Its about minimizing the chance that you get hurt for no good reason. Sure you could walk down the street and someone could pull a gun on you or maybe a car jumps the curb and slams into you etc. But the point is, why not minimize what you can? Some things and situations are unavoidable, but things like these are pretty much completely avoidable.

Why get into a potentially dangerous situation for no good reason? Probably 99 out of 100 times nothing major will come out of situations like these, but maybe that 1 out of 100 you get unlucky and what could have been a nothing matter turns into someone getting hurt and for what? People with egos who refuse to back down on nothing situations like this? Its plain stupid.

Just take the high road and curse his ass out in your car and let it be. If more people did that, road rage would be non-existent.

I guess if I looked at it from your point of view I can understand.

I was taught to go all the way to the end of the merge lane either in traffic or no traffic situations. I think if my merge lane is ending you have to yield, no?

where did you learn this?

This thread is getting out of hand. 'Scan' did nothing illegal

This is fine. People are allowed to voice their opinion even if they choose to personally attack me for my actions.


Let a**holes do what they please, they'll pay eventually for their carelessness and disregard for other people's safety. Never try to challenge them or teach them a lesson.

As for the concept of karma, nobody can be the enforcer of it. Speaking in technicalities you would have gotten a full bag of karma had you let the van in based on the "forgive your enemies" philosophy. :)

Perhaps, but one could say: you let a**holes do what they please because they'll eventually get what they deserve. What if they did but at the expense of someone else? These are the same people who drink and drive.

[mrlooneytoon]

where did you learn this?

At driving school about a couple years back. This also came up during my motorcycle course last year and they said it was valid!

Use the merge lane to get up to speed and then lane change. The full length of the merge lane is most likely used during heavy traffic if there is no prior way in.

[Derfel]

The fact of the matter is - while the driver of the white van did something wrong in choosing to change lanes to get ahead, the OP did something just as wrong as not allowing the van back in, and taunting him through his window while following "right up" to the bumper of the car ahead of him. That causes just as much risk for a collision or other problem.

The mature and sensible thing to do would have been to allow the van back into the lane, shake your head, and continue on your day.

[vistaway]

Sounds like the OP did nothing wrong. In fact, I see the OPP looking for people like the white van from time to time on the 401 @ Mississauga Road (not nearly often enough). Niagara-bound QEW @ Trafalgar is horrible for this sort of behavior. You rarely see drivers do this (white van maneuver) in the US or the UK. Seems like a GTA-thing.

[ES_Revenge]

Yeah you're right. I didn't go to driver's ed. Way to ridicule someone for making assumptions. I just have a certificate from Young Drivers of Canada. Ever heard of them?
Clearly you purchased that certificate with your box of Rice Krispies.

way to provide pictures. Did you try to read them? It does not contradict what I said earlier nor does it support your theory of right of way. But you did use pictures. *claps* I guess your argument is more compelling now right? The only thing I faulted on was I didn't know the name of the "frequency lines" and perhaps I'm wrong about the law but my source on that law is from a friend working in the Ministry of Transportation. He could be wrong but who knows. I don't have an online source that says it in writing but what do you have?
:confused: Double you tee eff? Seriously man are you paying attention to anything. What's extremely annoying here is not only do you NOT know how to drive, nor do you know the rules of the road but you're completely ignorant and belligerent about it when someone tries to tell you about it. This is ridiculous!


so go hit someone when there's no yield sign on a merging lane. Go argue that you had right of way then smart guy. I'll even pay for your damages.
Again what are you going on about? I'm not going to cause an accident because I'm not a terrible driver like you are. I'm certainly NOT going to take the advice of one of the worst drivers I've ever seen post on RFD.


yeah and you seem to love to state your opinion when it's completely irrelevant and frankly, no one cares.
Yeah so what's your point? I couldn't care less if no one cares. But clearly you do, since you're making a huge deal out of it :D

where's your reference? Two pictures that don't even support what you say? LOL yeah that is funny. Perhaps you have trouble reading.
Dude keep on ignoring what not only myself but others are telling you. You will eventually get into that accident you're hoping for. You may end up injuring yourself or someone you love all because you want to be ignorant and refuse to learn how to drive properly. The only thing I hope is that I never share the road with you.

If I EVER get pulled over I will. But guess what? I've never been pulled over EVER.
Yeah this is an astonishingly clear example of the state of road safety and enforcement in our province :(

actually, what I learned is there are no 'accidents', only collisions. All accidents are avoidable. But I didn't learn that from drivers ed, no.
:rolleyes: Spare us the semantics. Again you're the one wishing to get into an accident or collision or whatever the hell you want to call it. Yet you're the one "defending" yourself as a safe and competent driver :rolleyes: Not only that you're encouraging other people to get into "collisions" as well. What on earth is wrong with you???

Honestly for the sake of anyone that ever gets in a car with you, and anyone that ever has to share the immediate road with you? PLEASE LEARN HOW TO DRIVE.

That's all I'm going to say. Unfortunately I don't think it's going to get through to you :(

[Tomy]

At driving school about a couple years back. This also came up during my motorcycle course last year and they said it was valid!

Use the merge lane to get up to speed and then lane change. The full length of the merge lane is most likely used during heavy traffic if there is no prior way in.

let me see if i get this right..

i should always go onto the merge lane since i will always get right of way at the end of the merge lane...

[ES_Revenge]

let me see if i get this right..

i should always go onto the merge lane since i will always get right of way at the end of the merge lane...

Only if the lane-ending is on the right hand side of the rest of the lanes, and only if there is no yield sign in that lane. Also you will have the right of way but you may not "get" it. As you can see you might run into drivers like scan that make up their own rules and won't give it to you and will risk an accident in order to defend their ignorance. In that case excercise some common sense.

Also it doesn't mean you should use the entire length of the lane and then just force your way in, every single time you want to merge. If you can easily merge before that, then you should be doing that. If you can't easily merge you may indeed be forced to use your right-of-way.

Remember you can't just go and drive into someone either--you have a responsibility to avoid a collision. (Don't be like others that drive around who are hoping to get into collisions :rolleyes: )

[scan]

The fact of the matter is - while the driver of the white van did something wrong in choosing to change lanes to get ahead, the OP did something just as wrong as not allowing the van back in, and taunting him through his window
How is it MY responsibility to allow the van back in? AND when do I taunt the driver?

while following "right up" to the bumper of the car ahead of him. That causes just as much risk for a collision or other problem. Driving is a risk in itself. While I have total control over my car and I know when there's an actual risk of a collision, I'm sure you won't just take my word for it. I've actually avoided MANY collisions that others have caused but you can label me as: wreckless, dangerous, etc... Your personal attacks on me don't bother me so just leave your opinion and have a nice day.

[scan]

Clearly you purchased that certificate with your box of Rice Krispies.


:confused: Double you tee eff? Seriously man are you paying attention to anything. What's extremely annoying here is not only do you NOT know how to drive, nor do you know the rules of the road but you're completely ignorant and belligerent about it when someone tries to tell you about it. This is ridiculous!


Again what are you going on about? I'm not going to cause an accident because I'm not a terrible driver like you are. I'm certainly NOT going to take the advice of one of the worst drivers I've ever seen post on RFD.


Yeah so what's your point? I couldn't care less if no one cares. But clearly you do, since you're making a huge deal out of it :D


Dude keep on ignoring what not only myself but others are telling you. You will eventually get into that accident you're hoping for. You may end up injuring yourself or someone you love all because you want to be ignorant and refuse to learn how to drive properly. The only thing I hope is that I never share the road with you.


Yeah this is an astonishingly clear example of the state of road safety and enforcement in our province :(


:rolleyes: Spare us the semantics. Again you're the one wishing to get into an accident or collision or whatever the hell you want to call it. Yet you're the one "defending" yourself as a safe and competent driver :rolleyes: Not only that you're encouraging other people to get into "collisions" as well. What on earth is wrong with you???

Honestly for the sake of anyone that ever gets in a car with you, and anyone that ever has to share the immediate road with you? PLEASE LEARN HOW TO DRIVE.

That's all I'm going to say. Unfortunately I don't think it's going to get through to you :(


*Yawn* only a fool would take anything you have to say seriously. I don't know how you have 3x more post than me. I guess the "civic sucks" posts really adds up.

Oh yeah. You sure like to play tough guy around here telling people how to drive. Too bad you don't have any influence who gets the privilege to do so. As long as I'm legally allowed to drive I will do so. Good day!

[scan]

let me see if i get this right..

i should always go onto the merge lane since i will always get right of way at the end of the merge lane...

The law is (I will try to get a reference):

If you're on a merging lane (they are the lanes marked with lines that are thicker) and you're exiting, once you enter the lane you're not suppose to go back on the highway. If you're entering the highway, once you're on, you're not suppose to go back on the merge lane. That's where people take advantage. The use the merging lanes as a by pass.

As for merging into traffic, you're suppose to do it when you've caught up with the speed of the traffic and when it's safe to do so. If that means going to the very end, then so be it. It doesn't mean you have right of way despite what some people believe. Don't pay any attention to ES_Revenge's diagrams with his explanation. He's trying to use it to back up his point when that wasn't the intended use of those diagrams.

[rems]

can someone post some hard evidence that the merging lane has right of way? (sorry if someone already did and I missed it).

And I always let people in from the merging lane in, unless they use it as a passing lane.

[ES_Revenge]

The law is (I will try to get a reference):

If you're on a merging lane (they are the lanes marked with lines that are thicker) and you're exiting, once you enter the lane you're not suppose to go back on the highway. If you're entering the highway, once you're on, you're not suppose to go back on the merge lane. That's where people take advantage. The use the merging lanes as a by pass.

As for merging into traffic, you're suppose to do it when you've caught up with the speed of the traffic and when it's safe to do so. If that means going to the very end, then so be it. It doesn't mean you have right of way despite what some people believe. Don't pay any attention to ES_Revenge's diagrams with his explanation. He's trying to use it to back up his point when that wasn't the intended use of those diagrams.
Nonsense, this guy does not know what he's talking about. Just take a look at his posts above.

Ask yourself the question:
Do I take advice from the guy driving dangerously, thinking it's funny while wishing to get into collisions and endorsing others to get into collisions as well?

Enough said.

I have nothing more to say on this thread it's clear the OP want's to drive however they want, without any regard for safety or the law.

[ES_Revenge]

ES_Revenge will point you to his silly pictures. Try reading the site. It'll show what a moron he is. Also look at his posts. At least half of them will be "civic sucks", even in the food section of the forum.
Reported. (Wasn't going to post again but this warranted it.)

By the way for other people wondering what rems was wondering. ;)

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90h08_e.htm#BK202

[scan]

Reported. (Wasn't going to post again but this warranted it.)

By the way for other people wondering what rems was wondering. ;)

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90h08_e.htm#BK202

wait a sec...are you reporting me or yourself for crapping in my thread?

[Tomy]

Reported. (Wasn't going to post again but this warranted it.)

By the way for other people wondering what rems was wondering. ;)

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90h08_e.htm#BK202

lol

[ES_Revenge]

wait a sec...are you reporting me or yourself for crapping in my thread?
First I didn't crap on anything. You crapped on the entire forum by posting in the first place.

lol
Funny as it may be direct personal insults have no place here. They are certainly against the forum rules, make no mistake.

[scan]

lol

Gotta love this guy (ES_Revenge). He's always posting in these forums even if the topic is: "Help me decide between a BMW and Lexus" and he'll add nothign useful to the conversation but "At least it's not a civic!". Then goes reports it when he's crapping in other's threads.

[scan]

First I didn't crap on anything. You crapped on the entire forum by posting in the first place.

It's early but I bet this will be the joke of the day.


No... wait. Your presence is still the reigning champ.

[3weddings]

Stop insulting someone with ethics....which you obviously don't have Scan

I bet this story wouldn't be so hilarious to you if an accident had been caused because if your insolence!

What the driver is doing is wrong, I agree, but you do NOT have the authority to act on that!!

[scan]

Stop insulting someone with ethics....which you obviously don't have Scan

I bet this story wouldn't be so hilarious to you if an accident had been caused because if your insolence!

What the driver is doing is wrong, I agree, but you do NOT have the authority to act on that!!

Dare I respond? What authoritative measures was I using? Driving in MY lane going straight. Where does it say I have to let him in??? Again, another poster who tries to rise above and ignores the obvious facts.