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iam_noob3
Jul 21st, 2008, 02:39 PM
I am planing to buy a 2008 Toyota Prius, I wonder around how many KM can Prius be drive for one tank of gas? On City and Highway. Any Prius driver here? Thanks.
HBP
Jul 21st, 2008, 02:59 PM
I am planing to buy a 2008 Toyota Prius, I wonder around how many KM can Prius be drive for one tank of gas? On City and Highway. Any Prius driver here? Thanks.
What matters more is the L/100Km (standardize) since gas tank sizes vary between different cars, and that can be found with a quick googling. To be safe, add .5-1L to both the city and hwy if you want to have something more accurate.
Kenneth
Jul 21st, 2008, 03:29 PM
Drove a 04 model (same as 08), from Vaughan to Hamilton everyday roughly 200 km a day roundtrip.
All highway I would get just above 800km driving on the 407.
In the city you can get amazing mileage if you use the ICE as little as possible. 1000km per tank or more is doable.
blainehamilton
Jul 21st, 2008, 03:38 PM
Yup. Hybrids REALLY shine in the city in low speed stop and go traffic. Especially if you accellerate and slow down efficently, not using the gas engine unless absolutely necessary.
I got about 500-600 miles (800-1000km) to a 35 liter tank in california in february. And that was mostly 70+ mph freeway speeds.
You could get 1200km a tank or more with a plug in conversion kit, and some hypermiling techniquies...
iam_noob3
Jul 21st, 2008, 03:46 PM
Yup. Hybrids REALLY shine in the city in low speed stop and go traffic. Especially if you accellerate and slow down efficently, not using the gas engine unless absolutely necessary.
I got about 500-600 miles (800-1000km) to a 35 liter tank in california in february. And that was mostly 70+ mph freeway speeds.
You could get 1200km a tank or more with a plug in conversion kit, and some hypermiling techniquies...
WOW, around 1200KM/tank sounds very good to me. I just went to Don valley North Toyota today and asked about the 2008 Prius today, the sales is saying that the Prius is out of stock everywhere. If i order today, it will take 5 months to get the car.
SkylineR34X
Jul 21st, 2008, 05:57 PM
Y Prius and not Camry?
Many who looked for Prius end up purchasing a Camry. My parents drive a 07 Camry Hybrid. In the city it uses less than 6L/100km. 1 Tank is 800+km. It also feels alot better than the Prius in almost every aspect.
[H]ackerK
Jul 21st, 2008, 11:29 PM
Y Prius and not Camry?
Many who looked for Prius end up purchasing a Camry. My parents drive a 07 Camry Hybrid. In the city it uses less than 6L/100km. 1 Tank is 800+km. It also feels alot better than the Prius in almost every aspect.
Well I have looked at both Prius and Camery Hybird. I have ask WTH designed the Camery Hybird?! (Actually I do know who (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Camry_Hybrid#Introduction_and_death_of_lead _engineer), and the poor guy worked 160 hrs of OT in 2 months and died the day before the Intro.)
But still, if you have looked at the trunk you will know why. The battery looks retro-fit. And there is no point to have the rear seat to fold down, except you may want to store a ski in the trunk. (Which in an accident, it may kill the driver/passangers...)
IMHO, Prius is way better, atleast it was designed as a Hybird to start with.
Side note, it is VERY difficult to get a Prius these days. DVNT was trying to sell me a 09 Prius (which still doesn't exist) just to seal the deal.
[H]ackerK
Jul 21st, 2008, 11:31 PM
WOW, around 1200KM/tank sounds very good to me. I just went to Don valley North Toyota today and asked about the 2008 Prius today, the sales is saying that the Prius is out of stock everywhere. If i order today, it will take 5 months to get the car.
Today? The sales guy maybe BSing you. They told me there are 8 of them already on back order and most likely will have to switch to 09 model.
Billa-786
Jul 21st, 2008, 11:43 PM
ackerK;7135248']Well I have looked at both Prius and Camery Hybird. I have ask WTH designed the Camery Hybird?! (Actually I do know who (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Camry_Hybrid#Introduction_and_death_of_lead _engineer), and the poor guy worked 160 hrs of OT in 2 months and died the day before the Intro.)
But still, if you have looked at the trunk you will know why. The battery looks retro-fit. And there is no point to have the rear seat to fold down, except you may want to store a ski in the trunk. (Which in an accident, it may kill the driver/passangers...)
IMHO, Prius is way better, atleast it was designed as a Hybird to start with.
Side note, it is VERY difficult to get a Prius these days. DVNT was trying to sell me a 09 Prius (which still doesn't exist) just to seal the deal.
Edmunds did a good comparison of the two and found the opposite:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=127826
D-3vil
Jul 21st, 2008, 11:45 PM
Keep in mind that the 09 model does not qualify for the ecoAuto rebate ($2000).
You can still get the PST rebate, though (up to $2000). Still, overall, that's $2000 less in rebates, which brings the cost of the 2009 up.
[H]ackerK
Jul 22nd, 2008, 12:29 AM
Edmunds did a good comparison of the two and found the opposite:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=127826
The price maybe base on the 'pre $1900 discount' for Prius?
[H]ackerK
Jul 22nd, 2008, 12:31 AM
Keep in mind that the 09 model does not qualify for the ecoAuto rebate ($2000).
You can still get the PST rebate, though (up to $2000). Still, overall, that's $2000 less in rebates, which brings the cost of the 2009 up.
yup. you are 100% correct too.
To those of you interested in the Camry Hybird, just make sure you look at the trunk. And compare that with a normal Carmy and/or Prius (if you can find one in show room)
SkylineR34X
Jul 22nd, 2008, 01:06 AM
ackerK;7135548']yup. you are 100% correct too.
To those of you interested in the Camry Hybird, just make sure you look at the trunk. And compare that with a normal Carmy and/or Prius (if you can find one in show room)
I agree the size of the trunk can be an issue, but on the other hand, the Prius is REALLY SLOW off the line, and feels incapable of going on highway speed. We ended up with a Camry because
1) Prius is still a compact, and we cannot justifying paying more for a compact. (yes, with same equipment, Prius costs more than Camry)
2) Prius is REALLY SLOW
3) Prius is not that much more efficient
Again, it's your call.
BartBandy
Jul 22nd, 2008, 08:45 AM
WOW, around 1200KM/tank sounds very good to me.
It does not matter a dingo's kidney how many km you get from a tank of gas.
To be meaningful, the measure has to be consumption over distance. L/100km, km/L, or mpg. If mpg, specify imperial or U.S. gallons.
Anything else is useless.
new_vr
Jul 22nd, 2008, 09:48 AM
It does not matter a dingo's kidney how many km you get from a tank of gas.
To be meaningful, the measure has to be consumption over distance. L/100km, km/L, or mpg. If mpg, specify imperial or U.S. gallons.
Anything else is useless.
It does matter to some of us. I like to fill up as least often as possible.
[H]ackerK
Jul 22nd, 2008, 10:10 AM
I agree the size of the trunk can be an issue, but on the other hand, the Prius is REALLY SLOW off the line, and feels incapable of going on highway speed. We ended up with a Camry because
1) Prius is still a compact, and we cannot justifying paying more for a compact. (yes, with same equipment, Prius costs more than Camry)
2) Prius is REALLY SLOW
3) Prius is not that much more efficient
Again, it's your call.
I think Prius (Premium w/o NAV), is about the same price as the Camry Hybird base price... $30,630 (Prius Premium Pkg) vs $30,660 (Camry Hybird Base) And I didn't find Prius is that much more 'compact' compare to Camry. In fact, Prius has more trunk space than Hybird Camry.
No offense, but have you test driven the Prius before? Personally, I don't find it slow (or as really slow as you describe). The spec maybe one thing, but real life driving is another thing (for example, how often you need 0-60 in a few seconds? If you do, Hydird is not for you anyways.) Not only I didn't find it slow, I found it so quite and in no time which I didn't realize I was driving at 130km/h and I have to slow down. I have purposed tested the car for uphill driving because that's what I worry about the 110hp (combined) engine, and it wasn't a problem. Getting onto the hwy is no issue either. On the day of test drive, a BMW actually trying to over take me when we merge on to the highway (maybe he *thinks* I have a slow car...) Wrong. I stepped on it and he didn't even try to catch up. I am not saying Prius has more HP than a BMW, but just it *can* drive fast if you needed to.
Of course, I have to say that may not be the most efficient way of driving, but I am not sure if Camry is any more efficient either. To be fair, I would say they are about the same.
Again, IMHO, Prius is still better than Camry Hybird. But it is really a personal choice. And since you have already picked camry, of course you have your own reason....
myapple
Jul 22nd, 2008, 11:15 AM
I agree the size of the trunk can be an issue, but on the other hand, the Prius is REALLY SLOW off the line, and feels incapable of going on highway speed. We ended up with a Camry because
1) Prius is still a compact, and we cannot justifying paying more for a compact. (yes, with same equipment, Prius costs more than Camry)
2) Prius is REALLY SLOW
3) Prius is not that much more efficient
Again, it's your call.
Well, if you're used to driving a V6, I can see how it might feel a bit slow to you. I drove a prius for a week in cali. It was not slow at all and was able to handle highway speeds just fine. It's sad, but I actually found the prius' acceleration to be a slight improvement over my non-hybrid civic.
ES_Revenge
Jul 22nd, 2008, 11:25 AM
It does not matter a dingo's kidney how many km you get from a tank of gas.
Of course it does! It's called range. Either you've never done any driving over a few hours at a time or you've just done that driving where you've been lucky enough to have tons of gas stations along the way (which is easily the case in the US but not so much in a lot of Canada).
It doesn't matter in terms of fuel efficiency because that is just straight distance travelled per unit fuel consumed (or unit fuel consumed per distance), but it does matter if you're concerned with range.
The distance you can go, before you "can't go anymore" may indeed be of importance to some people.
Capt.
Jul 22nd, 2008, 01:08 PM
Of course it does! It's called range. Either you've never done any driving over a few hours at a time or you've just done that driving where you've been lucky enough to have tons of gas stations along the way (which is easily the case in the US but not so much in a lot of Canada).
It doesn't matter in terms of fuel efficiency because that is just straight distance travelled per unit fuel consumed (or unit fuel consumed per distance), but it does matter if you're concerned with range.
The distance you can go, before you "can't go anymore" may indeed be of importance to some people.
Excellent point. When I drive north of Toronto, it's easily 20-30 minutes between stations. And up there they're not open 24 hours like they are in the city. Once you get past 10-11 at night, good luck finding a station open. That's when the range becomes really important because no one wants to be stuck in the boonies in the middle of the night.
To say that it doesn't matter at all is an ignorant statement. It's hard to make blanket statements with words like always and never and have them still be true.
As an extreme example, does it matter if your car gets 40 mpg but can only go 160 km on a tank of gas? Knowing both the range and consumption is ideal.
[H]ackerK
Jul 23rd, 2008, 02:14 PM
Well, if you're used to driving a V6, I can see how it might feel a bit slow to you. I drove a prius for a week in cali. It was not slow at all and was able to handle highway speeds just fine. It's sad, but I actually found the prius' acceleration to be a slight improvement over my non-hybrid civic.
I think the better acceleration is because Hybird uses motor, which is know to have a much higher torque than most ICE. And yes, it is not as powerful as a V6 but it is compareable with a typical I4.
p110232
Jul 24th, 2008, 01:06 PM
interesting article.
prius myth, busted!
http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/toyota/toyota-prius-taxi-tops-340000mi-dispels-battery-myth/
ES_Revenge
Jul 24th, 2008, 03:23 PM
ackerK;7144070']I think the better acceleration is because Hybird uses motor, which is know to have a much higher torque than most ICE.
Well not necessarily much higher torque overall, but just more instant and consistent torque... Electric motors can have their full/max output torque at just 1 rpm--something an engine can't do. However the electric motors still have their operating range. After a exceeding a certain RPM, their effective torque output will drop off, which is usually why you see the torque for the electric portion of hybrids rated as "x lb*ft @ 1-y RPM).
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