Which Startrek T.V. series do you think is the best?

[Siefer999]

Star Trek: The Original Series (1966–1969)
Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987–1994)
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (1993–1999)
Star Trek: Voyager (1995–2001)
Star Trek: Enterprise (2001–2005)


my fave is voyager.

[Rifle]

There is no startrek without Cpt. Picard

[felix]

Star Trek: TNG, followed by Voyager. Least favourite was DS9.

[Talamasca]

DS9 was my favourite. It had everything from great characterization, writing, acting, and strong storyline arcs and all framed by an epic and devastating war involving every major power in the quadrant. The darkest of the series, yet also the most humorous. They also managed to avoid a lot of the technobabble plots and dialogue that plagued TNG and Voyager.

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[randomdef]

i agree. i thought voyager had too much made up technoscience to matter. any problem seemed to be solved at the last minute by some more made up science.

[robertalan]

The best are obviously TNG and TOS, but picking one is like picking apples and oranges, their both perfection from different television eras.

Of the rest Voyager is easily the best, with DS9 ending up being a grating soap opera and of course the worst is that abomination Enterprise.

[danfromwaterloo]

I'll be the crazy one and say DS9. I loved the war part - maybe that's cause one of my favourite elements of Star Trek is when there's space battles.

[SAN66]

- TNG all the way! Almost all episodes were superb with some of the best writing ever seen on TV and some great acting by Patrick Stewart, Brent Spiner and the rest. It established a new era in science fiction of series with more serious overtones which as of yet has not let up.
- Next for me would be DS9, loved the whole war overarch, didn't much like the whole Bajoran/Religious overtones thing
- Then I would go with TOS, it had some great episodes (The City on the Edge of Forever) and some really bad episodes (Bread and Circuses)
- Next would be Enterprise. There was the craptastic Xindi and the time shmorgesborg, but it actually had some strong episodes in its fourth season after it lost any fans it had
- Finally I hated voyager, it took everything good that TNG & DS9 established and turned it into crap. It turned the borg into pussies, made time travel a joke (and layed the foundation for the crap time war thing in enterprise) and made the Q very un-Q-like. Its not to say there werent a few good episodes, but most were horrible, and voyager had the worst series finale out of all the Star Treks, if not all sci-fi series.

[squall458]

TNG is what the ethos of Star Trek is all about. It had great stories that often did not rely on violence and was all about character development and interesting ideas/stories. The final episode was simply a master piece with its time paradox theme and Q was at his finest. Usually the final episode of most series just plain suck as they try to cram so much but TNG left us with something to cherish forever.

[Psygineer]

You technically missed a series, The Animate Series (1973-1974). It was a continuation of TOS.

[robertalan]

I'm surprised at all the votes for the DS9, the Star Trek soap opera - I guess it's the one favoured by The Young and the Restless fans among us.

[Talamasca]

I'm surprised at all the votes for the DS9, the Star Trek soap opera - I guess it's the one favoured by The Young and the Restless fans among us.

I wouldn't be that surprised. Go to any Star Trek messageboard and you'll see that DS9 has many passionate and devoted fans. Many would say that DS9's 4th season ep "The Visitor" is the greatest single episode of any Star Trek series ever.

And it's no coincidence that the very popular Battlestar Galactica and DS9 share many of the same producers, writers, and other behind the scenes talent. The two shows have many similarities and themes (religion, war, living in a less than ideal universe).

[felix]

Its not to say there werent a few good episodes, but most were horrible, and voyager had the worst series finale out of all the Star Treks, if not all sci-fi series.
Yeah, I remember how crappy the season finale was (after they promoted it to be such a grand finale). Even the DS9 one was better. Yes some of the episodes were boring, but I liked most of the characters, especially The Doctor, 7 of 9, and the Andorian leader who was played by that talented actor who was also on DS9 as the guy with many lives as a clone.


I'm surprised at all the votes for the DS9, the Star Trek soap opera - I guess it's the one favoured by The Young and the Restless fans among us.
Don't be surprised, because there are many people who like the Babylon 5 type boring shows that talk more about religion and politics than sci-fi. Some of the episodes were good though, the ones without the soap opera crap.

[Asagiri]

For me it's DS9 > TNG > Voyager > TOS > Enterprise.

Earlier on in the series with DS9, I found it rather boring tbh. It wasn't until the Dominion showed up that the series became good imo. The only redeeming quality Voyageur and Enterprise had was Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9 and Jolene Blalock as T'Pol...
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Oh 7 of 9, you can assimilate me anyday ;o

[Chookman]

I'm a DS9er and really enjoyed the serial-style war storyline. I wasn't a fan of the religious aspect, but I did enjoy the fact that the characters were more imperfect (and underhanded) than the other series.

For example, they had a ship (The Defiant) that was built as a killing machine and had a cloaking device. They also had a Commander (Sisko) that would do underhanded things to win at all costs such as when he set up bogus evidence to bring the Romulans into war as an ally. All of these things would never have happened previously.

I also agree that "The Visitor" is the best Star Trek episode I've seen and it had nothing to do with the overall plot of the series.

[BadDrafter]

1. TNG: Had lots of good stories, me and my brother use the show almost like parables in th bible. Good continuity, good acting, plausable sci fi.

2. DS9: Seemed like a continuation of TNG, especially when Worf came aboard. I really liked the war as well.

3: TOS: I would rank it higher, but the show was just too short. Also had plenty of parable episodes like TNG.

4. VOY: This is where I think the show jumped the shark. They watered down the strength of the invincible Borg and weakened Q. They relied too much on technobabble, had implausible science and the show lacked the continuity that was in TNG and DS9. Jerry Ryan wasn't good enough for me to like the show, if I wanted T&A I would watch baywatch.

5. ENT: I stopped watching by then. From what little I did see, I wasn't impressed. Perhaps I'm wrong and this could be better then Voyager, but my life is too busy right now to find out.

[gilboman]

I picked TNG..but the last couple of season of Enterprise were really quite good!!!!

my order of ST shows is TNG>DS9>=Ent>Voyager.

never could get into TOS though.

[hades]

Loved the war in DS9, loved the characters and the fact that it was mainly one large story...

hades

[SuckaB]

There is no startrek without Cpt. Picard

Jean Luc Becool~ :cheesygri

[Psygineer]

You technically missed a series, The Animate Series (1973-1974). It was a continuation of TOS.

Come now, did no one like The Animated Series? With the crazy high warp numbers?

Example (not exact quote):
Spock: That ship appears to be going warp 87, sir.

[Calmuser]

DS9 (though it was a rip off of the better b5 :D )

followed by TOS, then Voy, then Ent, and lastly TNG (yes I didn't like TNG, yell at me all you want ;) )

[tkl]

Voyager-Enterprise-TNG.

Never could get into DS9 but I'm very willing to give it another chance as I hear things are good during the Dominion wars although I don't even know what that is yet. I'll start this after the completion of Voyager and Enterprise.

The original ST was before my time and the lame effects and story lines are too dated. The movies of the original ST was decent enough though.

I liked the characters in Voyager and Enterprise. I'm currently watching it every night on the Space channel.

T'Pol > 7 of 9 but just barely. Can't go wrong with either.

[robertalan]

The original ST was before my time and the lame effects and story lines are too dated.

Effects yes - story lines never!

[Talamasca]

Never could get into DS9 but I'm very willing to give it another chance as I hear things are good during the Dominion wars although I don't even know what that is yet.

The Federation encounters the "anti-Federation" known as The Dominion on the other side of the galaxy via the Bajoran wormhole. Tensions build up over the years, allies become enemies and vice versa, betrayals become commonplace, and the Alpha Quadrant is eventually plunged into a bloody war involving every major power. Our Heroes are put to the ultimate test, people die, and lots of stuff blows up really good. Good times! :D

[rabbit]

I'll list some of my favourite episodes instead of favourite series:


TNG-???: ???
That one where a space probe beams memories into Picard's mind, and Picard lives a lifetime as another person. It's the episode when he gets that flute.


DS9-506: Trials and Tribble-ations
Not a great story, but this episode was just plain cool, merging scenes from the original series with new action from DS9 guys. Very well done.

DS9-613: Beyond the Farthest Star
An imaginary type episode where the actors play different characters who are back in the 1940s (or so). Episode is about black oppression (or just oppression in general). Off the beaten track, and something that no other TV series would do.

DS9-???: ???
The one where Quark, Nog, and Rom go back in time in a shuttle to 1940s USA, area 54. Again, it's another off-beat episode that gets points for being original.


VOY-612: Blink of an Eye
Voyager gets caught in some planetary gravitational pull and ends up being the planet's third pole. On the planet, time passes really fast, and you see the people evolve from caveguy types to being more advanced than Voyager.


ENT-418/419: In a Mirror, Darkly
Alternate universe story, where they find the USS Defiant (?) that was lost in Tholean's Web in the original series. Cool to see the blend of old with the new.


There's probably more episodes that I've forgotten about :).

[azndoughboi]

TNG for me, awesome storyline and acting, especially from Capt. Picard and Data.

Used to like DS9 a lot, but was too political and didn't like some of the actors...such as Kira, or Dr. Bashir (too much of a pansy). Not surprised they were married lol

And as much as people hate Enterprise, there were some pretty darn good episodes, like the three part episode of the Eugenetics war with Brent Spiner playing Dr. Soong, or the alternate history of everyone being evil and all the female leads sleeping their way up.

[Rometiklan]

My favourite Star Trek series in order:

1. TNG
2. TOS
3. DS9
4. VOY
5. ENT
6. TAS

[Godfather]

Jean Luc Becool~ :cheesygri

Is there a John Luck Pickard here? ;)

[rabbit]

One cool thing I liked about the Star Trek franchise was how they re-used the same actors for different roles.

The most noticeable one was Majel Barrett, but the chick who played Dr Polaski in TNG also guested in one episode in the original series. Don't know what the name of the episode was, but it was the one when Kirk makes his famous "Risk is our business" speech.

The dude who played Weyoun in DS9 was also Liquidator Brunt, and he was the Andorian in Enterprise. DS9's General Martok also guested in Enterprise (as a different character). Also in both series was the dude playing Gul Damar, who appeared in Enterprise as some ship captain in the Xindi storyline.

Lt Paris on Voyager was a cadet in TNG, on one of those annoying Wil Wheaton episodes.

Tuvok played some bad guy in a group that was trying to steal the Enterprise D when it was in for maintenance (some kind of radiation-removal sweep).

... lots more that I'm forgetting ...

[Psygineer]

I think they should do an entire new series based on the Mirror Universe. Perhaps have the series start out, like Enterprise, at the dawn of the Empire, and then progress from there. Perhaps even getting to the DS9 era Mirror Universe time lines. It's a shame there was no TNG mirror universe ones (Voyager I don't think it would have worked that well with.)

[Acuratl]

Loved TNG, watched it lots with my family in the UK, i guess thats what made me a bit of a trekky ;)

I just loved the comrodarie that picard showed and the teamwork of all the other crew members, great show.

Next comes Voyager, okay show, acting not as good as TNG, scripts seemed rushed and not as involved.

DS9 was okay too, but really stale. I mean they're not in a ship, what sorts of shananigans can they get into in a space station..

Never really watched enterprise, you could tell they're budget was low as hell when the graphics were lower than TNG and Voy...never really watched TOS either heh

[felix]

Lt Paris on Voyager was a cadet in TNG, on one of those annoying Wil Wheaton episodes.

Yeah, I remember I thought that was pretty neat when I found out. Too bad he wasn't playing the same character though (I think he had a different name than Tom Paris).

Looks like they were originally going to use the same character, but decided otherwise : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Paris

[Acuratl]

Yeah, I remember I thought that was pretty neat when I found out. Too bad he wasn't playing the same character though (I think he had a different name than Tom Paris).

Looks like they were originally going to use the same character, but decided otherwise : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Paris

hmm, it was clever. They worked his mischeveous antics into both series, i remember he did something on a cadet training mission in TNG and got kicked out of the academy or something..they mentioned it on voyager

[rabbit]

Personal comparison between TNG and DS9 characters:

Picard vs Sisko:
Both are good, but I don't think anyone (including myself, the DS9 fan) would choose Sisko over Picard.

Ryker vs Kira:
All Ryker did was pick up chicks. He was a sleazy, playboy character. Kira wins, with her spitfire personality.

Data vs Odo:
Both characters are cool. I'm sure that Data is more popular, but I'm saying that this one is a tie.

Worf vs Worf:
DS9 Worf wins. He was given a bigger role in DS9.

Troy vs Dax + Dax:
Troy sucks. Annoying character. Dax wins.

Dr Crusher vs Bashir:
Crusher. A previous DS9 hater was correct: Bashir is a milksop (although the Section 31 episodes deserve a plus for Bashir).

Guinan vs Quark:
Quark. Guinan wasn't in many episodes, but even if she were, Quark is a more entertaining character.

Wesley Crusher vs Jake Sisko and/or Nog:
No contest. Wesley should not even exist. Both Jake and Nog were neither annoying, nor were they token 'little kid' characters.

Borg vs Dominion:
Borg is way more popular, but the mainstream popularity of First Contact was also the demise of the whole Star Trek franchise. I give the edge to the Dominion. They had more depth. Borg was always a monotone "We will assimilate" again and again, with the only exception of Hugh.


You can say that I'm biased towards DS9 characters, but it's because of their characters that I like DS9.

[manixc]

Personal comparison between TNG and DS9 characters:

Picard vs Sisko:
Both are good, but I don't think anyone (including myself, the DS9 fan) would choose Sisko over Picard.

Ryker vs Kira:
All Ryker did was pick up chicks. Kira wins, with her spitfire personality.

Data vs Odo:
Both characters are cool. I'm sure that Data is more popular, but I'm saying that this one is a tie.

Worf vs Worf:
DS9 Worf wins. He was given a bigger role in DS9.

Troy vs Dax + Dax:
Troy sucks. Annoying character. Dax wins.

Dr Crusher vs Bashir:
Crusher. A previous DS9 hater was correct: Bashir is milksop (although the Section 31 episodes deserve a plus for Bashir).

Guinan vs Quark:
Quark. Guinan wasn't in many episodes, but even if she were, Quark is a more entertaining character.

Wesley Crusher vs Jake Sisko and/or Nog:
No contest. Wesley should not even exist. Both Jake and Nog were neither annoying, nor were they token 'little kid' characters.

Borg vs Dominion:
Borg is way more popular, but the mainstream popularity of First Contact was also the demise of the whole Star Trek franchise. I give the edge to the Dominion. They had more depth. Borg was always a monotone "We will assimilate" again and again, with the only exception of Hugh.


You can say that I'm biased towards DS9 characters, but it's because of their characters that I like DS9.

Sisko is much more of a bad ass than Picard.

[rabbit]

"Sisko is much more of a bad ass than Picard."

Only after he went bald and grew a goatee :).


(edited my previous post to include more about Ryker, and fixed a typo)

[Angela V]

Like them all equally. Though I don't find many fans like me :)

[Super strokey]

TNG all the way, then DS9, then enterprise, then the 7 of 9 show... i mean voyager

[thendless]

Oh man I was never a star trek fan until I watched DS9... Seriously one of the best written and acted sci-fi series I have ever watched, all the characters are excellent (although I think jake was pretty useless and boring IMO, i guess cause they didn't' focus on him much in the later seasons)... although the first few seasons werent that good until the ds9 received the defiant and sisko shaved his head haha.......

My favorite dramatic episode was the one where they bring the romulans into the war... superb acting

My favorite comedic one? Soo many, when the ferengi crew and odo go back to roswell, The one where odo and quark get stranded on the planet, the baseball one in the last seasons... haha to many to list

[rabbit]

> all the characters are excellent (although I think jake was pretty useless and boring IMO,

Hey, what about that episode when he and Nog are trying to get that baseball card?

The only character I hated was Cassidy Yates (well, maybe Kai Wynn, too), but that might have been because of the actress. I didn't like her 24, and I didn't like her in the 4400.

[Chookman]

The only character I hated was Cassidy Yates (well, maybe Kai Wynn, too), but that might have been because of the actress. I didn't like her 24, and I didn't like her in the 4400.

I agree with Cassidy Yates but the funny thing about Louise Fletcher (Kai Winn) is that she's the most accomplished actress (quite possibly in the whole Star Trek franchise) having won an Oscar for "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest".

It seems after that role, she's become typecast to play the "hated female" role.

[manixc]

"Sisko is much more of a bad ass than Picard."

Only after he went bald and grew a goatee :).


(edited my previous post to include more about Ryker, and fixed a typo)

so true.

Oh man I was never a star trek fan until I watched DS9... Seriously one of the best written and acted sci-fi series I have ever watched, all the characters are excellent (although I think jake was pretty useless and boring IMO, i guess cause they didn't' focus on him much in the later seasons)... although the first few seasons werent that good until the ds9 received the defiant and sisko shaved his head haha.......

My favorite dramatic episode was the one where they bring the romulans into the war... superb acting

My favorite comedic one? Soo many, when the ferengi crew and odo go back to roswell, The one where odo and quark get stranded on the planet, the baseball one in the last seasons... haha to many to list

best episode in all Star Trek series

[rabbit]

Yeah, that *was* a good episode. You do what you have to do to win the war.

And that reminds me of that episode when Nog loses his leg. War isn't so glamourous when you're at the front lines.

[Siefer999]

so no love for voyager? im not a hardcore startrek fan and i've watched the odd episode here and there from every series but i enjoy voyager the most. voyager is great for casual viewers

[silentio]

so true.



best episode in all Star Trek series


Oh I dont know about that. The episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" from TNG is very very close in excitement. I give "Yesterday's Enterprise" my vote for the best episode!

[Talamasca]

Oh I dont know about that. The episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" from TNG is very very close in excitement. I give "Yesterday's Enterprise" my vote for the best episode!

I'd give the edge to "In the Pale Moonlight" as that took place in the "real" Star Trek universe and had real consequences and took a hard look at how desperate the Federation was and how low they were willing to go. Sisko did things in that episode that no other captain has even come close to doing.

"Yesterday's Enterprise" was set in an alternate reality and other than Commander Sela popping up a year later, didn't add much.

[robertalan]

Oh I dont know about that. The episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" from TNG is very very close in excitement. I give "Yesterday's Enterprise" my vote for the best episode!

+1

(Though I might give TOS "City on the Edge of Forever" the tie.)

[Atheral]

so no love for voyager? im not a hardcore startrek fan and i've watched the odd episode here and there from every series but i enjoy voyager the most. voyager is great for casual viewers

+1 for Voyager

My sentiments exactly. I thought Voyager had the most interesting characters.

[Rometiklan]

Since some of us are discussing favourite episodes, I'll toss mine out there:

TOS - Is there any doubt? It's "City on the Edge of Forever". I love this episode. In many ways, it's the standard by which I judge an episode of any other sci-fi show.

TNG - Yesterday's Enterprise. Just an excellent episode. I've always been a sucker for stories which depict the hero making the ultimate sacrifice for the greater good. When Picard orders his crew to defend the Enterprise-C at all costs, that pretty much sealed the deal on this one..."Let's make sure history does not forget the name Enterprise!"

The Inner Light - There is something about this episode that seperates it from the pack. One of Patrick Stewart's best performances in the series.

DS9 - In the Pale Moonlight. Flawed heroes. Born out of desperation, the Federation has shown it is capable of treachery just as much as the enemy is. What are we all capable of, if desperate enough? It is a dramatic theme that appeals to me.

The Visitor - What an awesome episode. A lifetime of regret, and a lifetime trying to correct a mistake.