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i3_dawg

Mar 13th, 2008, 04:45 PM

i don't redline often, sometimes it sounds like the engine is about to explode even before reachin redline. Although, I do like revin it to high rpms like sound is like music to my ears

ShadowVlican

Mar 13th, 2008, 04:47 PM

gas is too expensive :lol:

i3_dawg

Mar 13th, 2008, 04:50 PM

yah i know, i heard gas is goin up to $1.4 per litre in the summer

gas is too expensive :lol:

professionaldude

Mar 13th, 2008, 04:59 PM

Always. :cheesygri just kidding . I don't as the above person said gas is expensive now.

bembol

Mar 13th, 2008, 05:10 PM

Back with my '02 Acura RSX Premium, yes. I did it enough times.

My '08 Nissan Altima Coupe 3.5SE, no. I'm still learning to control this much Torque/HP. I hate this 50km+ law. :twisted: I love the Sound of the VQ35DE.

skidz88

Mar 13th, 2008, 05:10 PM

i3_dawg

Mar 13th, 2008, 05:13 PM

unless your driving a standard, u can drive in first or second gear around town keepin the revs as high as u want under speed limit

skidz88

Mar 13th, 2008, 05:24 PM

unless your driving a standard, u can drive in first or second gear around town keepin the revs as high as u want under speed limit

For my car, 2nd gear redline is in the 110kmh area.

hightech

Mar 13th, 2008, 05:27 PM

If your engine is powerful enough, and the transmission in good shape, I don't see the need to hit redline in a car. Peak torque is on low revs, and peak hp is generally at the 70% mark. You can shave a 1/10 second or so by shifting late, but the stress on the engine is not worth it.

i3_dawg

Mar 13th, 2008, 05:37 PM

wow i guess you drive a high revin car, my guess is a s2000

For my car, 2nd gear redline is in the 110kmh area.

seftonm

Mar 13th, 2008, 06:02 PM

I don't think I ever take my car to redline. I do give it a dose of full throttle and higher rpm's once a day though, to help keep the turbo clear and compression up.

blibbertibs

Mar 13th, 2008, 06:30 PM

wow i guess you drive a high revin car, my guess is a s2000

Doesn't always have to be a high reving car, depends on the gear ratios and spacing. Mine does 127kmph in 2nd gear.

VorteC

Mar 13th, 2008, 06:54 PM

I redline when I'm in the mood.. probably once or twice a week.

wow i guess you drive a high revin car, my guess is a s2000
not really... my 2nd gear goes to 100+ as well.

If your engine is powerful enough, and the transmission in good shape, I don't see the need to hit redline in a car. Peak torque is on low revs, and peak hp is generally at the 70% mark. You can shave a 1/10 second or so by shifting late, but the stress on the engine is not worth it.

Not necessarily true.. my peak HP comes at 6800RPM.. and limiter is at 7300RPM.

Asad_A203

Mar 13th, 2008, 07:36 PM

Sometimes just for the hell of it I'll do it while merging onto the highway. By the time I'm at the bottom of the ramp, I'm already faster than the rest of the traffic on the highway lol.

Other then that, no. It's pretty stupid, and if I did it on city streets I'd be WAY over the speed limit.

+1 VQ35DE FTW!!!!!!!

With the G35 short redline it is almost impossible not to redline if you accelerate hard. I prefer the HR in the new G35 Sedans and 350Z.

Shame with the VQ is that it really starts to shine at around the 70 MPH to 110 MPH pull; but very rarely can you do that safely anywhere. Hopefully twins will help with that :cheesygri.

Asad_A203

Mar 13th, 2008, 07:39 PM

For my car, 2nd gear redline is in the 110kmh area.

It actually will go up to 130 km/h. I quite frequently hit 80 MPH before shifting up to third.

skidz88

Mar 13th, 2008, 07:52 PM

With the G35 short redline it is almost impossible not to redline if you accelerate hard. I prefer the HR in the new G35 Sedans and 350Z.

Shame with the VQ is that it really starts to shine at around the 70 MPH to 110 MPH pull; but very rarely can you do that safely anywhere. Hopefully twins will help with that :cheesygri.

What is redline on a G? I know mine is 6600.

I researched my cars gear ratios and I found that it can actually do 84mph in 2nd. So thats like 125kmh, am I right?

Asad_A203

Mar 13th, 2008, 08:04 PM

What is redline on a G? I know mine is 6600.

I researched my cars gear ratios and I found that it can actually do 84mph in 2nd. So thats like 125kmh, am I right?

Automatics redline is at 6600 RPM. Manuals redline is (correct me if I am wrong) is 6800 RPM. This was all prior to the Rev Up motors (2005-2007 MT). If you owned a MT 2005+ G35; redline was at 7000 RPM.

The new G35 Sedan and the new 350Z have a VQ35DHR; redline was raised to 7500 RPM. The G37 redline is same too.

I have heard you can raise the redline in AT and early 6MT to 7200 RPM and you will be fine. No benefit unless you SC; because this is where your peak will be at; and with a standard rev limiter; you won't reach it.

Also 84 MPH is 136 KM/H; I have gone 80 MPH fine; but never squeezed out that extra 4 MPH; haha.

skidz88

Mar 13th, 2008, 08:10 PM

Automatics redline is at 6600 RPM. Manuals redline is (correct me if I am wrong) is 6800 RPM. This was all prior to the Rev Up motors (2005-2007 MT). If you owned a MT 2005+ G35; redline was at 7000 RPM.

The new G35 Sedan and the new 350Z have a VQ35DHR; redline was raised to 7500 RPM. The G37 redline is same too.

I have heard you can raise the redline in AT and early 6MT to 7200 RPM and you will be fine. No benefit unless you SC; because this is where your peak will be at; and with a standard rev limiter; you won't reach it.

Also 84 MPH is 136 KM/H; I have gone 80 MPH fine; but never squeezed out that extra 4 MPH; haha.

Interesting. My next car in a few years will definately have the VQ35HR, probably the 05-06 G35 sedan.

I currently drive a 03 Maxima, so I'm surprised the gearing is similar. Not only that but mine is 4AT, so I'm impressed. I'm overall extremely pleased with my VQ and all the torque it has, definately shreds the competition.

Asad_A203

Mar 13th, 2008, 08:19 PM

Interesting. My next car in a few years will definately have the VQ35HR, probably the 05-06 G35 sedan.

I currently drive a 03 Maxima, so I'm surprised the gearing is similar. Not only that but mine is 4AT, so I'm impressed. I'm overall extremely pleased with my VQ and all the torque it has, definately shreds the competition.

The HR is only offered in the 07+; but good choice. The VQ is a cross breed engine; so I would imagine it to be very similar. I will try maybe this weekend to see when exactly I hit the redline; but I think it is probably 84 MPH as well. VQ is a fantastic engine; but the only problem is when you have an engine being shared across a wide variety of platforms you give up alot; specifically the sport application (specifcally the 350Z/G35C). You can't please all the groups; but torque is massive and has a very good top end. I guess maybe that is the reason why Nissan has a 3.7 in the G37 versus a 3.5HR.

skidz88

Mar 13th, 2008, 08:29 PM

The HR is only offered in the 07+; but good choice. The VQ is a cross breed engine; so I would imagine it to be very similar. I will try maybe this weekend to see when exactly I hit the redline; but I think it is probably 84 MPH as well. VQ is a fantastic engine; but the only problem is when you have an engine being shared across a wide variety of platforms you give up alot; specifically the sport application (specifcally the 350Z/G35C). You can't please all the groups; but torque is massive and has a very good top end. I guess maybe that is the reason why Nissan has a 3.7 in the G37 versus a 3.5HR.

I'm 100% sure the HR came out in 05 for the G sedan, 6MT are rated at 298HP. Also, although the HR puts out more HP and has a higher redline, I know it gives up TQ to do that. DE also had a oil burning issue in some of the cars it's in, although mine running on Motul doesn't burn at all. DE or HR, it's still an awesome motor with a LOT of potential. I'm just now learning to how bring some of that out, while improving my car's handling and braking.

Sonbuster

Mar 13th, 2008, 08:55 PM

if my car could handle it , i'd red line everytime. but my car can't.

i'm gauranteed my coolant will start leaking somewhere.

IoannI

Mar 13th, 2008, 09:09 PM

I have not redlined in a while to tell you the truth. The last time I redlined my Corolla I was back in September when I went go pick up my girlfriend from work. I had just gotten my G2 the very same day. It was late at night, the weather was nice and I had this long strech of pavement in front of me. So I just pushed it.

I have not had the time to redline my Uplander. Honestly, I'm scared to do it. I don't own it, its a company car. So I don't want to get screwed over because of damage.

skidz88

Mar 13th, 2008, 09:21 PM

TenzoR

Mar 13th, 2008, 09:22 PM

TenzoR

Mar 13th, 2008, 09:25 PM

I say once every couple month. More often in the summer. I think it does the engine good to burn off excess carbon buildup (though that could be just a myth).

Asad_A203

Mar 13th, 2008, 10:08 PM

I'm 100% sure the HR came out in 05 for the G sedan, 6MT are rated at 298HP. Also, although the HR puts out more HP and has a higher redline, I know it gives up TQ to do that. DE also had a oil burning issue in some of the cars it's in, although mine running on Motul doesn't burn at all. DE or HR, it's still an awesome motor with a LOT of potential. I'm just now learning to how bring some of that out, while improving my car's handling and braking.

HR did not come out for the sedans until 2007 and the 350Z as well. The HR is a new engine all together. You are referring to revup motors which were just a higher redline on the VQ35D; they also have a spacer somewhere. The revups were never offered in an AT; only 6MT. Thus; if you own an Auto VQ35; oil consumption would not be an issue. The 298 HP rating are most of the time claimed as BS; since the HR is much, much faster than the VQ35D revups and is 306 HP.

IoannI

Mar 13th, 2008, 10:23 PM

Definately don't go redlining a minivan :lol:

Its not your typical soccer mom minivan. Its a cargo minivan. That makes it worse to redline. Have all my tools, cable wire, cable boxes and modems flying around in the back. lol

petah

Mar 13th, 2008, 10:38 PM

no one can resist hitting 8600rpm. :cheesygri

malaco0219

Mar 13th, 2008, 10:40 PM

I redline every day.. Just became a habit :cheesygri

I usually just step on it quickly to the speed I need, and cruise.

blibbertibs

Mar 14th, 2008, 02:06 AM

where's all those people who say it's okay to redline because the car was made to handle everything up to the limiter?

seftonm

Mar 14th, 2008, 02:40 AM

where's all those people who say it's okay to redline because the car was made to handle everything up to the limiter?
I believe that for my car, but don't bother going up that high because power drops off before I get to redline, making revving that high pointless.

weales

Mar 14th, 2008, 03:16 AM

Red Lining in my cars is pointless as power stops before hitting it. I like high revving bikes ;)

ES_Revenge

Mar 15th, 2008, 11:05 PM

Red Lining in my cars is pointless as power stops before hitting it. I like high revving bikes ;)

Nearly all cars drop off in power towards their redline. However the point of shifting at the redline has little to do with the power or torque peak. Instead it has to do with dropping the car back into a relatively higher power band upon shifting up. For example shifting at the redline may have the next higher gera in a higher power than if you had shifted sooner. In most cases, shifting at or close to the redline give the best straight line performance.

As for me I rarely come even close to the redline. I sometimes hold the throttle wide open (usually on the highway) but rarely hit the redline before shifting on my car. It's not really a good idea unless you really need to accelerate which on public roads usually isn't necessary I find.

ShadowVlican

Mar 15th, 2008, 11:43 PM

+1

02 civic Si
i have always gone "past" redline(7000rpm) on a daily basis and I still get 400km/tank. wouldn't have it any other way.

guess theres another reason not to get a bigger engine. ;)
pfffttt

you'd probably get like 600+km/tank if you don't redline daily :lol:

kleptodathief

Mar 16th, 2008, 09:25 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8prUPjnJUE

i bounce off the rev limiter all the time! :cheesygri

VorteC

Mar 16th, 2008, 10:48 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8prUPjnJUE

i bounce off the rev limiter all the time! :cheesygri

Why do all of your posts suggest your a ricer/

brendonp

Mar 16th, 2008, 10:50 AM

where's all those people who say it's okay to redline because the car was made to handle everything up to the limiter?

How about here? I don't know if you are referring to a specific thread (this is the first I've posted on the subject), though it sounds like it. I hit redline (or very close to it) most times I merge onto any 400 series highway, assuming no winter storms! My 7 year old car is currently at 130k+ kms on the odometer and the last compression test (~10k ago) showed everything was still above factory delivery specifications.

Why wouldn't a car be able to handle everything up to red-line? :confused: If it couldn't handle the stress, isn't the red-line set at the wrong point? :confused:

skidz88

Mar 16th, 2008, 11:00 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8prUPjnJUE

i bounce off the rev limiter all the time! :cheesygri

Are you manually shifting an auto tranny? WTF!? LOL

I will laugh when your tranny explodes and you post a thread about it. Rice rice baby.

mrlooneytoon

Mar 16th, 2008, 12:00 PM

Kinda offtopic but question: Is it weird to redline a CVT tranny in manual mode?

i3_dawg

Mar 16th, 2008, 01:04 PM

unless your on the track, even though when your the power drops yopu need your rpm as high as possible so when you shift into your next gear you will be at a higher range rpm producing more power. But for daily driving is pretty pointless.

I believe that for my car, but don't bother going up that high because power drops off before I get to redline, making revving that high pointless.

seftonm

Mar 16th, 2008, 03:21 PM

unless your on the track, even though when your the power drops yopu need your rpm as high as possible so when you shift into your next gear you will be at a higher range rpm producing more power. But for daily driving is pretty pointless.
That doesn't seem to be true for all vehicles. My redline is ~4600, power peak around 3800. I find shifting around 4000-4200 gives best results. Going up to redline before shifting ends up taking me out of the powerband fairly quickly in the next gear.

HBP

Mar 16th, 2008, 03:24 PM

I haven't redlined in a couple months... :(

Last time when some punk was trying to pass me on a lane that was closing, so I downshifted and effed him up.

XxXSnake23XxX

Mar 16th, 2008, 03:45 PM

The most i can do is early redline @ 5,500 since my 2007 altima auto shifts around there in CVT

mrlooneytoon

Mar 16th, 2008, 04:36 PM

I haven't redlined in a couple months... :(

Last time when some punk was trying to pass me on a lane that was closing, so I downshifted and effed him up.

Share the road? Driving is a right not a privilege and no I'm not just restating the MTO book.

HBP

Mar 16th, 2008, 05:10 PM

Share the road? Driving is a right not a privilege and no I'm not just restating the MTO book.

I guess I should reiterate: TRYING TO PASS ME ON A LANE THAT IS CLOSING.

ES_Revenge

Mar 16th, 2008, 07:30 PM

I guess I should reiterate: TRYING TO PASS ME ON A LANE THAT IS CLOSING.

Keep in mind if that "LANE THAT IS CLOSING" is on the right, the driver in THAT lane has the right of way over you.

kleptodathief

Mar 16th, 2008, 09:45 PM

vortec:

:D

http://i17.tinypic.com/8c121rr.jpg

HBP

Mar 16th, 2008, 10:30 PM

Keep in mind if that "LANE THAT IS CLOSING" is on the right, the driver in THAT lane has the right of way over you.

Sure, except if you're switching into that lane for the sole purpose of passing me with the complete knowledge that it ends in 50m, I'm not gonna let you.

DaVibe

Mar 17th, 2008, 12:44 AM

You REALLY gotta push it to redline ... I don't know, my car is flying and I'm not even near the red ...
I'll be smoking the tires to red line it ...

V6 Automatic.

ES_Revenge

Mar 17th, 2008, 12:50 AM

Sure, except if you're switching into that lane for the sole purpose of passing me with the complete knowledge that it ends in 50m, I'm not gonna let you.

:rolleyes: That's like saying "if a light turns red for the sole purpose of stopping me I'm not going to let it". Right of way is right of way. If there's a car merging from a lane that is ending on the right hand side, that car has the right of way, period. Doesn't matter what you think or don't think they are trying to do. If they start to merge as the lane ends and you hit them, then you're going to be at fault, end of story.

HBP

Mar 17th, 2008, 01:38 AM

:rolleyes: That's like saying "if a light turns red for the sole purpose of stopping me I'm not going to let it". Right of way is right of way. If there's a car merging from a lane that is ending on the right hand side, that car has the right of way, period. Doesn't matter what you think or don't think they are trying to do. If they start to merge as the lane ends and you hit them, then you're going to be at fault, end of story.

Nah, because they would be behind me.

I usually drive around 15-20 over anyway.

BTW: if you switch into a lane that is closing in 50m, to aggressively pass someone, and then cause an accident... I am sure you would be at fault and get a ticket for reckless driving.

ES_Revenge

Mar 17th, 2008, 01:44 AM

and get a ticket for reckless driving.
There is no such regulatory offence in Ontario province, nor is there a Canadian criminal offence of "reckless driving". ;) I.e. You cannot get ticket for an offence that does not exist.

HBP

Mar 17th, 2008, 02:53 AM

There is no such regulatory offence in Ontario province, nor is there a Canadian criminal offence of "reckless driving". ;) I.e. You cannot get ticket for an offence that does not exist.

http://www.ontariotraffictickets.com/tickets/careless-driving.htm

Careless Driving is a serious traffic ticket with six demerit points in Ontario, sometimes called reckless driving, is one of the most serious driving offences under the Highway Traffic Act of Ontario.

There you go sir, even provided a link. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

HBP

Mar 17th, 2008, 02:56 AM

You REALLY gotta push it to redline ... I don't know, my car is flying and I'm not even near the red ...
I'll be smoking the tires to red line it ...

V6 Automatic.

It's a lot harder to redline with an automatic, you'll usually upshift before you can hit it. If you had a standard you would have already redlined once at around 50-70 in 1st gear. If you wanted to that is.

GoiNGPoSTaL

Mar 17th, 2008, 10:28 AM

http://www.ontariotraffictickets.com/tickets/careless-driving.htm

There you go sir, even provided a link. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

You do know what you did is also reckless and can contribute to an accident.

HBP

Mar 17th, 2008, 12:11 PM

You do know what you did is also reckless and can contribute to an accident.

I agree.

gheart008

Mar 17th, 2008, 12:41 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8prUPjnJUE

i bounce off the rev limiter all the time! :cheesygri

Lol the following quote from the youtube thread sums up my thoughts too:

um wtf was that other than someone showing that they can film as well as they can drive?

That gave me a headache more than anything.

squireglig

Mar 17th, 2008, 02:57 PM

I agree.

I would have done the same as you. I hate it when ppl try to pass me by going into the merging lane from behind me. The last guy that did it was an old man in a ~1992 camry :!: I was about 15 over the speed limit already.. and people in the left lane were probably doing 20 over. This happens on hwy 8 in kitchener all the time for those who have driven there..

Sticking to the topic i hit about 5500 - 6000rpm every few days.. redline is 6800.. limiter is 7000ish