can i use real games on xbl with a modded system?

[ReDmAn]

if i got my system modded with ixtreme 1.4 and i'm using a real game on a moddem system will i get banned from live?

[Alvito]

ask the people who modded your system. but i would imagine you'd get banned eventually.

[nsd]

Good question, I would also like to know please.

[SwiZz]

you might find your answer here:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=561298

its a thread just a few posts below yours :)

[BYan]

Or, if you're too lazy to look, yes, yes you can. You might get banned though, reports vary on that issue. Generally speaking the best way apparently to avoid the banhammer is to buy retail games that you intend to play on Live, and only play your *ahem* backups when you're not logged on.

[Emancipated]

Or, if you're too lazy to look, yes, yes you can. You might get banned though, reports vary on that issue. Generally speaking the best way apparently to avoid the banhammer is to buy retail games that you intend to play on Live, and only play your *ahem* backups when you're not logged on.

Is this 100% fool proof?

I want to get an Arcade and mod it for ah, experimental usages *wink, wink, nudge nudge*. I can leave my Premium connected to the LCD TV full time with retail games and just go back and forth.

[BYan]

Is this 100% fool proof?

I want to get an Arcade and mod it for ah, experimental usages *wink, wink, nudge nudge*. I can leave my Premium connected to the LCD TV full time with retail games and just go back and forth.

Well they can't ban you if you're not plugged in right :cheesygri

Nobody is sure if their banning is dependant on detecting anomalies with your console itself or with the discs you put in. In the case of the former, it's pretty much just blind luck then, and odds are you get banned sooner or later. In the case of the latter you just have to make sure whenever you're connected to Live you either have a retail game in the drive or nothing at all.

The best option would be to have 2 xboxes. One modded for SP gaming, one unmodded for MP, and you can switch back and forth between them as you see fit. Heck, you won't even need to buy a new HDD. Luckily (in this case at least) the 360 forces you to buy a wireless adapter before you can go online, so if you don't have your ethernet port plugged and you don't have a wireless adapter, your modded console will have no chance of being banned short of the MS secret police kicking down your door and doing a diagnostic on your console. With the PS3 I'm not so sure, since it integrates wi-fi, and even if you can turn it off, there might be a way for them to stealth check your console every now and then once the modding community gets into the machine.

[Emancipated]

Well they can't ban you if you're not plugged in right :cheesygri

Nobody is sure if their banning is dependant on detecting anomalies with your console itself or with the discs you put in. In the case of the former, it's pretty much just blind luck then, and odds are you get banned sooner or later. In the case of the latter you just have to make sure whenever you're connected to Live you either have a retail game in the drive or nothing at all.

The best option would be to have 2 xboxes. One modded for SP gaming, one unmodded for MP, and you can switch back and forth between them as you see fit. Heck, you won't even need to buy a new HDD. Luckily (in this case at least) the 360 forces you to buy a wireless adapter before you can go online, so if you don't have your ethernet port plugged and you don't have a wireless adapter, your modded console will have no chance of being banned short of the MS secret police kicking down your door and doing a diagnostic on your console. With the PS3 I'm not so sure, since it integrates wi-fi, and even if you can turn it off, there might be a way for them to stealth check your console every now and then once the modding community gets into the machine.

I feel so dumb for asking now. I'm very sleepy... yeah that's it.

Any DIY hacks? I don't want to seek out some one to mod my system; if I can't do it, I won't bother.

[BYan]

I feel so dumb for asking now. I'm very sleepy... yeah that's it.

Any DIY hacks? I don't want to seek out some one to mod my system; if I can't do it, I won't bother.

I honestly don't know. My box isn't modded since I'm too lazy to do it and if I pay somebody else to do it for me I have to start DLing games, and burning DL dvds and running checks and all that. The last console I modded was my PS2, and even then it was with a fliptop, so it's not actual soldering/flashing firmware modding.

Your best bet would be to check around the modding communities for advice. In the end though, you're just going to have to ask yourself how many games are there that you want to play, and how many you want to play online, and whether or not saving money on buying all those games is worth modding in the end even if you do get banned.

Here, try this out:

Xbox 360 arcade - $300 (juding by store prices)
Modding - $100 (roughly)

You just spent $400. Games are $60 a piece, so you'll need to DL 7 games to justify your new console + modding. You can sell all your old SP games since you'll be burning them now - let's say you get $200 for those altogether. You still need to dl 4 games to be in the black. No question modding saves you money, but it's all dependant on how many games you want to buy in the first place. :D And of course it's considerably cheaper if you mod your own console and buy your new console cheap online. But in the worse case scenario listed above where you buy everything retail and you don't sell any of your old games, you're looking at burning at least 7 games you would have paid retail for to justify the cost.

GL man. :D

[lionboy]

modding xbox is DIY. People who get others to do it are simply people who don't know anything about computers or w/e,

Its a simple DVD Drive Flash to reconize DVD-ROM (burnt games )the same as XBOX game discs, and thus allow the machine to play them.

Depending on the drive, your motherboard may or may not be compatable with flashing the drive. If not, a simple 15$ chip can be used.

Use Google mah friend.

[goJays]

yes. /thread

[randomdef]

modding xbox is DIY. People who get others to do it are simply people who don't know anything about computers or w/e,

Its a simple DVD Drive Flash to reconize DVD-ROM (burnt games )the same as XBOX game discs, and thus allow the machine to play them.

Depending on the drive, your motherboard may or may not be compatable with flashing the drive. If not, a simple 15$ chip can be used.

Use Google mah friend.

It actually isnt that simple of a flash. Hitachi and Samsung, yes, easy, LG is a pain because you need to solder a chip to it to put it in the correct mode. BenQ is bad because you must boot off a USB key, have the resources to learn how to do that, but also your computer must have a compatable chipset, many of the p35 or 680i chipsets that alot of us run, are not compatable (ICH9?)


i figured it out, but i wouldn't expect many people to be able to do it.

[Avenger]

It actually isnt that simple of a flash. Hitachi and Samsung, yes, easy, LG is a pain because you need to solder a chip to it to put it in the correct mode. BenQ is bad because you must boot off a USB key, have the resources to learn how to do that, but also your computer must have a compatable chipset, many of the p35 or 680i chipsets that alot of us run, are not compatable (ICH9?)


i figured it out, but i wouldn't expect many people to be able to do it.

There are 3 drives - Hitachi-LG, Samsung, and Benq. New Hitachi-LG drives need the Passkey, which is not for beginners. The others are relatively simple to mod IF you have the correct SATA chipset - each drive has ones it likes better. The cost of acquiring a proper chipset (certain VIA and SI chipsets required, usually via SATA CARD) plus the time to install and test it, and get it working is usually more than the modding costs. I offer these mods, so I remember getting everything together. If I were doing just one, I would take it to someone based on the cost/time being arguably more than taking it to someone to do.

[mr_dimsum]

Nobody knows exactly how Microsoft is determining whom is using a banned firmware. Most people believe it is just a bad rip of an original game, or that games are not stealthed properly, etc. but there really isn't a conclusive determiner at this moment. Some people believe that they were detecting some type of jitter-offset or whatever the hell it is from the data on bad ripped games which apparently authentic copies do not produce. However, it was said afterward that old systems also can occasionally produce these jitter-offsets so than that's kind of ironic isn't it? Hence, probably why Microsoft has "unbanned" people shortly afterward.

If you have a flashed system, as most people say, you go online at your own risk. Be aware of the pro's and con's of it and see if it's worth it.

[randomdef]

There are 3 drives - Hitachi-LG, Samsung, and Benq. New Hitachi-LG drives need the Passkey, which is not for beginners. The others are relatively simple to mod IF you have the correct SATA chipset - each drive has ones it likes better. The cost of acquiring a proper chipset (certain VIA and SI chipsets required, usually via SATA CARD) plus the time to install and test it, and get it working is usually more than the modding costs. I offer these mods, so I remember getting everything together. If I were doing just one, I would take it to someone based on the cost/time being arguably more than taking it to someone to do.

There is actually 4 drives, Hitachi, Samsung, LG-Hiatchi, and BenQ.

I agree, i went through the hassle of the BenQ mod, not sure i'd bother again, so much effort to get a simple flash, would of rather soldered 29 points to the board.

[zod]

BenQ is no worse to mod that the Samsung.

I'd update to the newest firmware v1.4 or v.1.41 for the benq. It had the jitter fix. Like mentioned above something about the angle the laser bounces of the surface of the disc or something, could determined it was pirated (but only sometimes, if it hit it just right), if it returned a 359, the old firmware report 360, which was out of range, and you'd get banned. Then it turned out worn out drives and what not can report the same info.. unbanned alot of consoles.

MS has a habit of banning in waves, so if they figure out a new way to detect copied discs, they sit on it, gather all the info first, then hit everyone else at once.

Apprently they can't read the firmware to see if its hacked, because if you modded one yourself, you realize to read the firmware you have to make it start up in recovery mode. So it seems to depend on detecting copied discs. I don't use copied discs on live... and i seem to be ok.. if i'm using a backup, i completely unplug the network cable first.

[joshmxpx]

BenQ is no worse to mod that the Samsung.

I'd update to the newest firmware v1.4 or v.1.41 for the benq. It had the jitter fix. Like mentioned above something about the angle the laser bounces of the surface of the disc or something, could determined it was pirated (but only sometimes, if it hit it just right), if it returned a 359, the old firmware report 360, which was out of range, and you'd get banned. Then it turned out worn out drives and what not can report the same info.. unbanned alot of consoles.

MS has a habit of banning in waves, so if they figure out a new way to detect copied discs, they sit on it, gather all the info first, then hit everyone else at once.

Apprently they can't read the firmware to see if its hacked, because if you modded one yourself, you realize to read the firmware you have to make it start up in recovery mode. So it seems to depend on detecting copied discs. I don't use copied discs on live... and i seem to be ok.. if i'm using a backup, i completely unplug the network cable first.

it has been said by others, that when you play a backup, and it notices, it stores some info on the console. if you believe this, then unplugging while playing backups would serve no purpose, since it would ban you automatically the next time you log in. i play backups online, and i haven't been banned yet, so who knows. i do have a backup console, though, if this ever happens...