View Full Version : Good driving set for PS3?
Velocity
Mar 8th, 2008, 07:15 PM
Hey guys,
I wanna get a driving set for the PS3 since i preordered GT5, what would you recommend? Force feed back + a shift stick would be nice.
Thanks.
coordinator
Mar 8th, 2008, 08:41 PM
logitech G25
WickedSmurf
Mar 8th, 2008, 09:05 PM
What's your budget?
Velocity
Mar 8th, 2008, 09:25 PM
i'm not sure, i'd like something nice, any suggestions would be great, price isn't an objection right now.
forgamez
Mar 9th, 2008, 07:38 PM
your only choice should be logitech g25.
if you researched for just one minute, you could have figured that out...
sfu_lifer
Mar 9th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Well you can wait for the new Logitech wheel coming out when GT5 comes out.
WickedSmurf
Mar 10th, 2008, 12:31 AM
There's also Fanatec's Porsche 911 Turbo Gaming Wheel. It has force feedback and a six-speed/sequential shifter. It's also semi-wireless to boot. Quite similar in features and a little pricier compared to the G25. You can check out the review of the wheel here (http://rocketpunchautoblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/review-fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-gaming.html).
The forum over at RaceSimCentral (http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1263) is an excellent place to inquire about all the other different options available.
sfu_lifer
Mar 10th, 2008, 02:42 AM
There's also Fanatec's Porsche 911 Turbo Gaming Wheel. It has force feedback and a six-speed/sequential shifter. It's also semi-wireless to boot. Quite similar in features and a little pricier compared to the G25. You can check out the review of the wheel here (http://rocketpunchautoblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/review-fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-gaming.html).
The forum over at RaceSimCentral (http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1263) is an excellent place to inquire about all the other different options available.
The thing is, would the official GT5 support that wheel. Logitech is in tight with Sony which guarantees support for their high end wheels.
Kakashi
Mar 10th, 2008, 02:52 PM
The thing is, would the official GT5 support that wheel. Logitech is in tight with Sony which guarantees support for their high end wheels.
Fanatec wheel works fine with GT5: Prologue, so it'll likely work with GT5.
WickedSmurf
Mar 10th, 2008, 10:29 PM
The thing is, would the official GT5 support that wheel. Logitech is in tight with Sony which guarantees support for their high end wheels.
From www.911wheel.com (http://www.911wheel.com)'s FAQ:
What Playstation 3 games are compatible?
In general, all games are compatible which are supporting other Force Feedback wheels as well.
This includes:
* Gran Turismo 5 Prolog
* Need for Speed: Pro Street
* Colin Mc Rae DiRT
* Need for Speed carbon
* Nascar 2008
* Formula 1 (No FF support)
The product page for the wheel at Fanatec is here (http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=210&lang=en).
Velocity
Mar 10th, 2008, 11:34 PM
i think G25 gives a better value, since the porsche one cost 350 bucks!
rfdghost
Mar 11th, 2008, 09:43 AM
you can also wait for the new Logitech Driving Force GT Wheel
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/playstation_3/devices/4172&countryid=19&languageid=1
cdsoundtr
Mar 12th, 2008, 12:27 PM
I don't own a PS3 yet, but I'm using the logitech G25 on the PS2, attached to a playseat
winstona
Mar 13th, 2008, 10:50 AM
you can also wait for the new Logitech Driving Force GT Wheel
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/playstation_3/devices/4172&countryid=19&languageid=1
I am really surprised that this doesn't have a shifter like the g25...Other than the fancy adjustment dial on the center of the wheel, this really isn't much different than the Driving Force Pro. Unless they have better, more realistic pedals, I won't consider getting this at all.
rahzel
Mar 13th, 2008, 01:34 PM
I am really surprised that this doesn't have a shifter like the g25...Other than the fancy adjustment dial on the center of the wheel, this really isn't much different than the Driving Force Pro. Unless they have better, more realistic pedals, I won't consider getting this at all.
pedals seem to be the same... the improvements are in the force feedback (and the adjustment dial like you mentioned). i'm guessing the force feedback still won't be as strong as the G25, but it will be more realistic, especially with GT5 as Logitech said they worked closely with PD.
drumboz79
Mar 13th, 2008, 07:57 PM
I don't own a PS3 yet, but I'm using the logitech G25 on the PS2, attached to a playseat
i have a friend that has 2 of those set up, it's awesome for racing. i'm thinking of getting one when GT5 arrives
don't they run $300+
spn
Mar 13th, 2008, 08:41 PM
The DFGT is not a repackaged DFP. Here's some info from a product manager at Logitech (taken from GTplanet)
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=102724&page=7
My name's Chris, and I work for Logitech. I'm the product manager for both the Driving Force GT and the G25, as well as the G-series keyboards and some other stuff. I'm the guy in the YouTube video explaining how the DFGT's new realtime adjustment dial feature works. Now that GDC is over and the wheel is actually announced, I'll try and answer some of the questions I've seen about it.
The Driving Force GT (DFGT) is a direct replacement for the Driving Force Pro. It is not intended to address the same customer as the G25.
The pedals base has the same external design, but the internals were modified slightly to improve reliability and precision. Much like the G25 pedals, the DFGT's are set up with two parts - the pedal arm turns a gear that is affixed over the potentiometer shaft rather than turning the pot directly. This means that excessive force (and the subsequent deformation of the plastic) on the pedals can no longer cause the potentiometer to move out of tolerance and produce erratic values. The performance of the DFGT's pedals should be significantly improved over the Driving Force Pro's.
The force feedback transmission is a double-reduction, single-motor system. The gear ratio has been modified such that it is much smoother and quieter than the DFP's. It also features a backlash-reduction main gear similar to the system used in the G25. It does not generate the same amount of torque that the G25 does, as it only has one motor, but it does deliver the same amount of torque as the DFP.
The major differences between metal and plastic pedals are that there is more flex in plastic than metal, and that with metal pedal arms/frames we are able to use stronger springs without experiencing mechanical failure of the parts to which the springs are attached. The new design of the DFGT pedal arms mitigates the effect of pedal arm flexing on the pot, increasing reliability and accuracy to G25 levels. Naturally, plastic is easier to break than metal, but the type of abuse that would be required to damage the DFGT's pedals is significant.
There is no mechanical 200 degree stop in the DFGT. This is now handled via software, and is up to the game developer to implement.
cdsoundtr
Mar 13th, 2008, 11:39 PM
i have a friend that has 2 of those set up, it's awesome for racing. i'm thinking of getting one when GT5 arrives
don't they run $300+
wow, your friend has 2? I wish i had the money/room for that. yeah, it's a lot of money, but it's great~!
winstona
Mar 14th, 2008, 09:25 AM
i have a friend that has 2 of those set up, it's awesome for racing. i'm thinking of getting one when GT5 arrives
don't they run $300+
http://www.playseatsna.com/video-game-racing-seat.php
I bought one from Playseats NA directly and they are shipped from Mississauga Canada...So shipping cost for me is cheap enough to justify getting one...
J W
Mar 14th, 2008, 11:16 AM
http://www.playseatsna.com/video-game-racing-seat.php
I bought one from Playseats NA directly and they are shipped from Mississauga Canada...So shipping cost for me is cheap enough to justify getting one...
damn, i want one of these :)
do you remember if they taxed you or not? i went to the order page and it only shows a shipping charge.
i saw these on amazon.com before (for $199 i think), but shipping to canada is a lot for such a heavy product and i'm sure i'd get taxed/dutied hard.
cdsoundtr
Mar 14th, 2008, 12:52 PM
damn, i want one of these :)
do you remember if they taxed you or not? i went to the order page and it only shows a shipping charge.
i saw these on amazon.com before (for $199 i think), but shipping to canada is a lot for such a heavy product and i'm sure i'd get taxed/dutied hard.
You will get taxed because it's shipped from Toronto.
As for Amazon.com, they don't ship the playseat to Canada. I had to ship it down to a friend who was visiting in the US, and she drove it up.
WickedSmurf
Mar 15th, 2008, 01:58 PM
For those that got the G25/Playseats combination, what did you do to mount the shift lever? I'd like a solution where the shift lever is placed at the steering wheel level (ala Carrera GT), rather than at lap level.
Edit: here's a picture to show what it is I mean:
http://www.leblogauto.com/images/carrera_gt_interior.jpg
cdsoundtr
Mar 15th, 2008, 09:11 PM
For those that got the G25/Playseats combination, what did you do to mount the shift lever? I'd like a solution where the shift lever is placed at the steering wheel level (ala Carrera GT), rather than at lap level.
Edit: here's a picture to show what it is I mean:
Hi, I actually haven't mounted the shifter yet. The G25 Shift mount is on back order, i got an email on Friday, it won't be available until beginning of April. They only ship to the US, so i'll be shipping it to my hotel next time i'm in the US on business
WickedSmurf
Mar 16th, 2008, 01:34 PM
Hi, I actually haven't mounted the shifter yet. The G25 Shift mount is on back order, i got an email on Friday, it won't be available until beginning of April. They only ship to the US, so i'll be shipping it to my hotel next time i'm in the US on business
The folks over at http://www.playseatsna.com/ are selling the Playseats here in Canada. I'd suggest you contact them to see if they carry the shifter mount as well.
On another note, the shifter mount from Playseats can only be mounted at lap level from my understanding.
cdsoundtr
Mar 16th, 2008, 04:42 PM
The folks over at http://www.playseatsna.com/ are selling the Playseats here in Canada. I'd suggest you contact them to see if they carry the shifter mount as well.
On another note, the shifter mount from Playseats can only be mounted at lap level from my understanding.
Thanks, I already emailed them, I haven't received a response. That's correct, it's mounted to the side of the seat comes out and up.
Sgt_Strider
Mar 16th, 2008, 09:29 PM
Can someone explain to me why one would get the G25 over the DFGT? It seems like DFGT is officially sanctioned by Sony and tested for GT5 and would "probably work best" with the game. However, I'm getting the impression that the G25 would a better steering wheel and will work as well if not better than the DFGT. I would love more information in regards to this.
cdsoundtr
Mar 16th, 2008, 10:42 PM
Can someone explain to me why one would get the G25 over the DFGT? It seems like DFGT is officially sanctioned by Sony and tested for GT5 and would "probably work best" with the game. However, I'm getting the impression that the G25 would a better steering wheel and will work as well if not better than the DFGT. I would love more information in regards to this.
The G25 is an higher end compared to the DFP, because it has the clutch, 2 motors and H Shifter. So you're talking about two different markets, G25 for the hardcore fan, and the DFP for an average user. The G25 is twice the price, so it's for a different market.
Now when you're talking about the DFGT, think of it as an upgrade to the DFP. It's like a replacement for the DFP for the PS3. It isn't intended to replace the G25. Of course the DFGT will have the PS3 button, which the G25 doesn't have. I don't know how that's handled or what it does since I don't own a PS3
cdsoundtr
Apr 19th, 2008, 04:12 PM
I just finished installing the Shift mount on the playseat evo. Took about 45 minutes to do everything. Best way to install it is to put the seat upside down. You'll need to remove one of the legs from the shifter. To do this, remove the four screws at the bottom of the shifter and the leg will come off. Once that's been removed, you can screw the shifter to the mounting plate.
PCDawg
Apr 19th, 2008, 05:36 PM
What other alternatives are there other than the playseats?
Casual gamer, but dont want to spend $300+ for seomthing that I wont be using all the time.
WickedSmurf
Apr 20th, 2008, 01:16 AM
I just finished installing the Shift mount on the playseat evo. Took about 45 minutes to do everything. Best way to install it is to put the seat upside down. You'll need to remove one of the legs from the shifter. To do this, remove the four screws at the bottom of the shifter and the leg will come off. Once that's been removed, you can screw the shifter to the mounting plate.
Can the shift mount be placed at the same level as the steering wheel, or can it only be placed at lap level?
xtasyx
Apr 20th, 2008, 02:00 AM
Damn, the A1's are backordered...
cdsoundtr
Apr 20th, 2008, 11:54 AM
Can the shift mount be placed at the same level as the steering wheel, or can it only be placed at lap level?
lap level, you can't adjust the height, only the x-y axis.
someguy91
Apr 20th, 2008, 02:59 PM
Isn't the tony stewart one cheaper.. why don't you get that one..
danthemightyone
Apr 20th, 2008, 03:26 PM
Driving Force GT
http://www.logitech.com/repository/659/jpg/6515.1.0.jpg
http://www.logitech.com/repository/659/jpg/6518.1.0.jpg
G25
http://www.logitech.com/repository/127/jpg/642.1.0.jpg
http://www.logitech.com/repository/127/jpg/643.1.0.jpg
http://www.logitech.com/repository/127/jpg/645.1.0.jpg
Booo. No clutch on DFGT. G25 hands down...
Deals Deals Deals
Apr 20th, 2008, 10:09 PM
If the GT had the clutch, I would have considered it, but it doesn't... So I guess its waiting time for the Logitech G25 to go on sale.
actyper
Apr 21st, 2008, 10:38 AM
If anybody is looking for those seats, I can probably get some demo units of a similar brand for about $200. GTA. lmk if interested.
danthemightyone
Apr 21st, 2008, 12:06 PM
Am I the only one who think racing playseat is a waste of money? Why spend a few hundred bucks when you can get your own!
Here are some ideas
http://berserk.org/gt4/
http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=35881
http://forum.rscnet.org/forumdisplay.php?f=186
Sure I will make my own when price for G25 gets more attractive.
p1mp
Apr 22nd, 2008, 07:14 PM
I'll wait a few months and hope the g25 price drops + make a cockpit. Maybe I should bootleg one for GTAIV lol.
shannn
Apr 22nd, 2008, 09:40 PM
Am I the only one who think racing playseat is a waste of money? Why spend a few hundred bucks when you can get your own!
Here are some ideas
http://berserk.org/gt4/
http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=35881
http://forum.rscnet.org/forumdisplay.php?f=186
Sure I will make my own when price for G25 gets more attractive.
Thanks, gonna build myself one of those this summer
Rx-87
Apr 23rd, 2008, 08:20 PM
Logitech G25 is the set to get.. but the GT pro set by Logitech will suffice as well.
AzN_RiverdaleCI
Apr 23rd, 2008, 08:45 PM
Am I the only one who think racing playseat is a waste of money? Why spend a few hundred bucks when you can get your own!
Here are some ideas
http://berserk.org/gt4/
http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=35881
http://forum.rscnet.org/forumdisplay.php?f=186
Sure I will make my own when price for G25 gets more attractive.
thanks for the links yo, i'll do this as a summer project. seriously.
BD006
Apr 23rd, 2008, 10:19 PM
As much as I'd like to get the G25, I can't justify buying a peripheral that costs almost as much as another PS3.
I'll wait for either a smoking deal on the G25, or a good deal on the GT.
So to those who don't have racing seats, etc. in their living room, what do you guys attach your wheels to?
WickedSmurf
Apr 23rd, 2008, 11:00 PM
As much as I'd like to get the G25, I can't justify buying a peripheral that costs almost as much as another PS3.
Playstation 3s are going for $200 these days?
thecharlie
Apr 24th, 2008, 01:29 AM
I just picked up a G25 from Buy.com. I think it's totally worth the price. Now to find a good seat for it in Toronto...
TechRock
Apr 24th, 2008, 01:36 AM
im going to try to build this one http://berserk.org/gt4/ this weekend
deezz
Apr 24th, 2008, 10:52 AM
Hey Guys,
What would you consider a smokin deal on the G25? Cuz I was going to wait for the DFGT, which will be released at an MSRP of $149.99. But then I found the G25 for $199.99 online last night! The best part about it was LOCAL PICKUP in the GTA. So I didn't have to pay for shipping and wait a week for it.
I figured, for an extra $50 it was waaaaay worth it to get the aluminum pedals, paddles, and finish on the steering wheel, the six-speed h-shifter (which can be used in sequential mode as well), and to have the fully working clutch!! I just set it up last night on a dinky little table and this thing with the feedback cranked up to 10 (default is 5) on GT5P is a BEAST!! The pedals feel awesome, lots of resistance and feels rock-solid. And the wheel is just, with those two motors working instead of one on the DFGT, they really toss you around lol!!
I thought $200 was an awesome deal with the local pickup, and I have no regrets...now I just gotta decide how I'm going to mount my setup with a seat :D
BD006
Apr 24th, 2008, 01:34 PM
Playstation 3s are going for $200 these days?
Didn't you know?
kailuke
May 2nd, 2008, 10:52 AM
I've been reading a bunch of posts here and at the Playstation forums about Cdn's looking for racing seats, such as the Playseat, and not having much luck or having to pay lots of $ with very little support for the product after you've handed over your money.
I've got a manufacturing plant in Toronto that can produce a similar product, but I'm not sure it's worth the time and effort to make it. Maybe you guys can give me some feedback to see if there's enough interest to consider producing them.
Post or PM me with your comments, suggestions.
Thanks
Hank
Ryus
May 2nd, 2008, 01:28 PM
I've been reading a bunch of posts here and at the Playstation forums about Cdn's looking for racing seats, such as the Playseat, and not having much luck or having to pay lots of $ with very little support for the product after you've handed over your money.
I've got a manufacturing plant in Toronto that can produce a similar product, but I'm not sure it's worth the time and effort to make it. Maybe you guys can give me some feedback to see if there's enough interest to consider producing them.
Post or PM me with your comments, suggestions.
Thanks
Hank
I would definitely be interested in something along the lines of those posted DIY links. I wouldn't be able to but the playseat away somewhere if not using since it's quite big.
If there was a product that provides a very sturdy support to mount the wheel, can also be universally compatible to sofas and different types of seats/chairs, and able to be compactly foldable would be amazing.
So if the seat is not included, I'm sure the price of the product would be alot less than the Playseat. At an attractive pricepoint for a quality product, I'm sure there would be lots of interest.
Ryus
May 2nd, 2008, 01:29 PM
So to those who don't have racing seats, etc. in their living room, what do you guys attach your wheels to?
I too would like to know how people in living rooms attach their steering wheels. I just can't seem to find a good table to use.
Uber12
May 2nd, 2008, 05:28 PM
I too would like to know how people in living rooms attach their steering wheels. I just can't seem to find a good table to use.
I have the Driving Force EX and a lift-top coffee table. The top of the table is on arms that lift it up about a foot and brings it about a foot closer to the couch. This puts the wheel at a perfect position. I've had the table for years and never really used the lift feature, but now I'm really glad to have it. Of course, I have no idea where you would find such a table now. I found it at a crappy furniture store back when I was a bachelor and thought the lift feature was incredibly cool.
WickedSmurf
May 11th, 2008, 04:10 PM
I've got a manufacturing plant in Toronto that can produce a similar product, but I'm not sure it's worth the time and effort to make it. Maybe you guys can give me some feedback to see if there's enough interest to consider producing them.
Post or PM me with your comments, suggestions.
Pictures of concepts or prototypes of what it is you're offering would be good.
Something along the lines of the Playseats would be ideal for me. The major problem with the original Playseats was the wobbling steering column. As for the Playseats Evolution, it was because the placement of the steering column interfered with heel-and-toeing. Also, the set did not have an option for the shifter to be mounted at the same level as the steering level. You'd have yourself a potentially great product if you could rectify all those problems.
Rx-87
May 11th, 2008, 11:53 PM
Ikea work station tables are good. Just make sure to get a sturdy base and you're going to be well off. Not to mention the price on those things are good.
Sgt_Strider
May 12th, 2008, 12:45 AM
So any comments on how the G25 handles GT5 even though it doesn't have the PS3 button? If money wasn't an issue, would the GT25 be the better performer than the official GT5 steering wheel?
kailuke
May 12th, 2008, 03:08 PM
Pictures of concepts or prototypes of what it is you're offering would be good.
Something along the lines of the Playseats would be ideal for me. The major problem with the original Playseats was the wobbling steering column. As for the Playseats Evolution, it was because the placement of the steering column interfered with heel-and-toeing. Also, the set did not have an option for the shifter to be mounted at the same level as the steering level. You'd have yourself a potentially great product if you could rectify all those problems.
Thanks for the suggestions. It this kind of feedback that will help us come up with a better product. Keep'em coming.
thanks
Hank
ericmeiguo
May 13th, 2008, 07:36 PM
Works well.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3040/2488870202_6a02068268_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2049/2488082157_87535b44a9_o.jpg
PriceChopper
May 19th, 2008, 03:05 PM
hey all, here's project I'm working on, just finished part 1 of the thing. Building the base and making sure that the seat fits comfortable and firm.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4441/base1db9.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=base1db9.jpg)http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/543/base2pn1.th.jpg (http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=base2pn1.jpg)http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3431/baseseatct9.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=baseseatct9.jpg)
materials are 1x pine panel, and integra seat with sliders for adjustability.
next up is hacking up some pvc pipe to building the frame for this thing.
my build reference is this one from rscnet forums here (http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=317864)
hope y'all enjoy, will post more pics as I progress.
fidoguydo
Jun 2nd, 2008, 11:46 AM
Here's my setup. Will have my G25 soon to replace my old MS/Actlabs setup.
http://zenphoto.ehsia.com/albums/2008-05-31-raceframe-chair/IMG_2638_640.jpg
J W
Oct 23rd, 2008, 04:35 PM
Bringing up an old thread :cheesygri
I saw this in a magazine today:
http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=220&lang=en
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_01.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_02.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_03.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_04.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_05.jpg
It's supposed to retail for $129US. Seems like a decent option between a home-made setup or a Playseat that'll cost $300. I just might need to pick up one of these :)
Emancipated
Oct 23rd, 2008, 04:40 PM
Bringing up an old thread :cheesygri
I saw this in a magazine today:
http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=220&lang=en
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_03.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_04.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_05.jpg
It's supposed to retail for $129US. Seems like a decent option between a home-made setup or a Playseat that'll cost $300. I just might need to pick up one of these :)
The cropped out the best part.
Look how happy she is with it between her... ahh forget it.
J W
Oct 23rd, 2008, 05:10 PM
The cropped out the best part.
Look how happy she is with it between her... ahh forget it.
lols pic fixed :P
this stand looks like it ummm, works well....
WickedSmurf
Oct 23rd, 2008, 05:57 PM
Words
It's a good compromised. If the position of the steering wheel could be adjusted on the horizontal plane it would've been a much more practical product.
risingsun
Oct 24th, 2008, 10:13 AM
**edited: new pics uploaded**
This is the setup i have for my G25. I got my G25 a month ago and it took me a day to build the stand. Notice the surface of the table is slanted so the tilt of the wheel is more upward. I got all the materials from Rona near my house. Total came to around $70.
The next upgrade for the project is gonna be building a small portable stand for the pedal so it can go a bit slanted too to make it feel more realistic. I am planning to make that as an attachment so it is easier for storage in the future.
Oh yeah...the seat is from ikea...i think it cost like $79-99..
http://x69.xanga.com/2d9f14e363735209494458/m163235474.jpg
http://x0c.xanga.com/942c83e706633209494454/m163235471.jpg
Setz
Oct 24th, 2008, 10:18 AM
What is a good wheel that works with Ferrari Challenge, GT5Prologue, DIRT, and GRID? Looking to buy a wheel in the pricerange of 100-250$ that supports force feedback for PS3 sometime in December. Any advice? Bonus if it also works on 360.
risingsun
Oct 24th, 2008, 11:29 AM
What is a good wheel that works with Ferrari Challenge, GT5Prologue, DIRT, and GRID? Looking to buy a wheel in the pricerange of 100-250$ that supports force feedback for PS3 sometime in December. Any advice? Bonus if it also works on 360.
Go with the G25 if you are in the $200-250 range. you can easily price match it at BB or FS and get it for 230 tax included. best steering wheel out there right now (...in my opinion...since i own one...:cheesygri )
Setz
Oct 24th, 2008, 12:16 PM
Go with the G25 if you are in the $200-250 range. you can easily price match it at BB or FS and get it for 230 tax included. best steering wheel out there right now (...in my opinion...since i own one...:cheesygri )
Is it lightweight? I keep my HDTV on a desk and I sit 2 feet from it. Thinking of just putting the wheel in front of the TV for an authentic experience.
justin24
Nov 2nd, 2008, 01:04 PM
Got A new Logitech G25 if anyone wants it. Bought it for 271.19$ on October 21st. So about a week and half ago. I'll give it up for 240$ if any1 wants it. Still have the receipt btw. PM me.
Sgt_Strider
Nov 2nd, 2008, 07:01 PM
Has this post been answered before? How does the G25 compare to the official GT5 steering wheel from Logitech?
I realize how weird that questionw as phrased considering Logitech makes both wheels.
spn
Nov 3rd, 2008, 12:17 AM
Has this post been answered before? How does the G25 compare to the official GT5 steering wheel from Logitech?
I realize how weird that questionw as phrased considering Logitech makes both wheels.
The G25 is superior in every way.
The only neat thing about the Driving Force GT (GT5 wheel) is the little dial to make adjustments on-the-fly which allows you drive like Schumacher and adjust brake bias for every corner :D
Sgt_Strider
Nov 3rd, 2008, 01:05 AM
The G25 is superior in every way.
The only neat thing about the Driving Force GT (GT5 wheel) is the little dial to make adjustments on-the-fly which allows you drive like Schumacher and adjust brake bias for every corner :D
Care to explain how it's better in every way?
spn
Nov 3rd, 2008, 01:35 AM
The two smaller motors inside the G25 provides really good feedback on how the car's behaving. Steering is very smooth and it's easy to feel when the backend is about to snap around and make necessary corrections ;). There's so much more control and it's much easier to sense what the car is doing.
The brake pedal is also quite stiff so it allows better control over braking and helps to avoid locking up the wheels. Again this is about the feedback and control it'll give you.
G25 does cost more money but if you want a wheel for sim racing then it's the best you can get for that price range. If you're not into sim racing and don't care too much about the extra feel and control then just get a DFGT as it's still a good improvement over the old DFP wheel.
Sgt_Strider
Nov 3rd, 2008, 01:47 AM
The two smaller motors inside the G25 provides really good feedback on how the car's behaving. Steering is very smooth and it's easy to feel when the backend is about to snap around and make necessary corrections ;). There's so much more control and it's much easier to sense what the car is doing.
The brake pedal is also quite stiff so it allows better control over braking and helps to avoid locking up the wheels. Again this is about the feedback and control it'll give you.
G25 does cost more money but if you want a wheel for sim racing then it's the best you can get for that price range. If you're not into sim racing and don't care too much about the extra feel and control then just get a DFGT as it's still a good improvement over the old DFP wheel.
Are there any buttons on the G25 that isn't utilized by GT5 Prologue? Any disadvantages to the GT25 compared to the GT5 wheel besides the price?
spn
Nov 3rd, 2008, 02:04 PM
Most games allow you to reconfigure the buttons so you'll never have an issue with which buttons do what, but here's a pic of the G25 button layout I grabbed from GTPlanet.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/731/g25buttonmap1wx7.jpg
And disadvantages over other wheels:
1. Positioning of the brake and gas pedals makes it harder to heel-toe.
2. There's only 2 buttons on the wheel so you'll always have to reach over to the shifter unit to do a lot of things. Back when I had the old DFP I had a lot of things mapped to the wheel buttons. I could look left/right/back, cycle through the HUD to check tire/oil/brake temps, adjust settings for brake bias, and change fuel load and wing setup for my next pitstop :cheesygri
cdsoundtr
Nov 17th, 2008, 08:41 AM
Bringing up an old thread :cheesygri
I saw this in a magazine today:
http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=220&lang=en
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_01.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_02.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_03.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_04.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_05.jpg
It's supposed to retail for $129US. Seems like a decent option between a home-made setup or a Playseat that'll cost $300. I just might need to pick up one of these :)
That looks pretty good, I own a playseat, I might pick up this and a 2nd wheel..
Dankir
Jan 4th, 2009, 09:00 PM
Bringing up an old thread :cheesygri
I saw this in a magazine today:
http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=220&lang=en
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_01.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_02.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_03.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_04.jpg
http://www.fanatec.de/img/products/rsws_05.jpg
It's supposed to retail for $129US. Seems like a decent option between a home-made setup or a Playseat that'll cost $300. I just might need to pick up one of these :)
Has anybody actually bought this? I was leaning towards a playseat evolution chair but the footprint and cost were my deterrents. I would actually but this stand as its small and nicely priced.
Anybody have any feedback or online reviews I can read?
Thanks!
WickedSmurf
Jan 17th, 2009, 10:23 PM
There's a thread over at GT Planet that discusses this particular wheel stand. Have a gander:
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111346
An informative feedback video from a user:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zXsBJTO7s0
Has anybody actually bought this? I was leaning towards a playseat evolution chair but the footprint and cost were my deterrents. I would actually but this stand as its small and nicely priced.
Anybody have any feedback or online reviews I can read?
Thanks!
h00ch
Jan 19th, 2009, 11:16 AM
I'm thinking of getting this one. Seems to have good reviews and a pretty good price compared to others...
http://wheelstandpro.com/
For the G25 stand, it's $189 CDN including shipping plus maximum $30 CDN for tax/duty when you receive it.
http://wheelstandpro.com/g25small.jpg
kailuke
Feb 5th, 2009, 03:07 PM
The problem I can forsee with both the wheelstandpro and fanatec is that the stand is dependant on the weight of the pedals and your feet to keep it from moving around. When you get a little enthusiastic with the wheel, the whole unit will shift. That's one of the benefits of having the full seat scenario. The arm for the wheel is attached to a frame.
I would take their stand idea and also add a fold down platform so that your chair (and therefore your weight)sits on top of the platform which would contribute to the stability of the whole wheel stand.
These two, in their current configuration, are too unstable and pricey. Should be able to get this kind of stand for around $100.
rahzel
Feb 5th, 2009, 06:03 PM
Care to explain how it's better in every way?
The G25 has a leather wrapped steering wheel, it has a clutch, H pattern shifter (with choice of sequential), better paddle shifters, more realistic pedals (both in appearance and performance). The only advantage the DFGT has, is the duals and buttons for real time tuning, and the price.
I personally went with the DFGT simply because it's a lot cheaper (less than half the price). Mind you this is my first wheel, but I'm more than happy with it. There are many improvements made over the DFP, like the 11" vs 10" wheel, stronger FF (dual motors like the G25), tuning knobs, and it's quieter. The FF apparently was redone as well.
Using the wheel, my lap times are noticeably better than with the DS3. It's also WAY more fun to play too. I can't believe I went so long without a wheel.
Ben-
Oct 6th, 2009, 01:19 AM
I was really interested in the design of the wheelstandpro because of its portability but was turned away by the hefty price tag; after currency conversion, taxes and shipping it comes close to $200! If it was priced at $100 then I'm sure they would be getting a lot more customers.
Anyways, has anyone found any decent table mount alternatives for the driving wheel, preferably one that is small and has height adjustment?Someone in another forum had recommended the "Table Mate II" , but I was unable to find it in any of the local stores.
twitchyzero
Oct 6th, 2009, 02:00 AM
I was really interested in the design of the wheelstandpro because of its portability but was turned away by the hefty price tag; after currency conversion, taxes and shipping it comes close to $200! If it was priced at $100 then I'm sure they would be getting a lot more customers.
Anyways, has anyone found any decent table mount alternatives for the driving wheel, preferably one that is small and has height adjustment?Someone in another forum had recommended the "Table Mate II" , but I was unable to find it in any of the local stores.
I used a table-mate II for my entry forcefeed back wheel..it did the job well (awesome for portability and slides in well into the couch).
but when i switched over to the real deal (G25) it's too flimsy.
I got my dad to build one for me out of wood..i'll take pics and upload them during the weekend
Ben-
Oct 6th, 2009, 03:34 AM
I used a table-mate II for my entry forcefeed back wheel..it did the job well (awesome for portability and slides in well into the couch).
but when i switched over to the real deal (G25) it's too flimsy.
I got my dad to build one for me out of wood..i'll take pics and upload them during the weekend
Do you remember where you purchased your table mate from?
Would it be stable enough for the DFGT, considering that it is lighter than the G25 b/c of the clutch adapter?