PDA

View Full Version : Who Watches the Watchmen?


Beradon
Mar 8th, 2008, 03:06 AM
"Watchmen" is set in an alternate 1985 America in which costumed superheroes are part of the fabric of everyday society, and the "Doomsday Clock" – which charts the USA's tension with the Soviet Union – is permanently set at five minutes to midnight. When one of his former colleagues is murdered, the washed up but no less determined masked vigilante Rorschach sets out to uncover a plot to kill and discredit all past and present superheroes. As he reconnects with his former crime-fighting legion – a ragtag group of retired superheroes, only one of whom has true powers – Rorschach glimpses a wide-ranging and disturbing conspiracy with links to their shared past and catastrophic consequences for the future. Their mission is to watch over humanity... but who is watching the Watchmen?"


Set to release next year on March 6, 2009.

Film has started shooting but here are some on set pics.


http://image.com.com/filmspot/images/assets/photos/default/66/af/188017.jpg

http://image.com.com/filmspot/images/assets/photos/default/e4/04/188018.jpg

http://image.com.com/filmspot/images/assets/photos/default/4b/33/188019.jpg

http://image.com.com/filmspot/images/assets/photos/default/5a/a5/188021.jpg

http://image.com.com/filmspot/images/assets/photos/default/1d/5d/188020.jpg

somemale
Mar 8th, 2008, 09:13 AM
strogly urge everyone to pick up the graphic novel.

rubberband
Mar 10th, 2008, 12:53 PM
Arguably the greatest graphic novel ever published. Heck, one of the greatest contemporary novels published, regardless of the medium.

Worth reading. Go buy it, read it, and join me (and everyone else who has done so) in hoping that the movie doesn't suck, or gets canceled. :|

soulflare
Mar 11th, 2008, 02:48 AM
Arguably the greatest graphic novel ever published. Heck, one of the greatest contemporary novels published, regardless of the medium.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Also... the film has finished shooting, they're on to post-production now, and it's assured a wide-release.

Vertigo
Mar 11th, 2008, 03:18 AM
Wow... Those shots look pretty damn good. They've definitely captured the look of the graphic novel.

e-man
Jul 17th, 2008, 08:57 PM
Trailer is on Quicktime.com.

Looks really good. Hope they don't screw it up.

the official site is cool cause rorschah's mask changes. slick.

heymikey
Jul 17th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Here is a link to the trailer in HD. (http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/watchmen/watchmen-tlr1_h720p.mov)

sportmiester
Jul 17th, 2008, 10:07 PM
Thanks for the link.

Time to crack open the graphic novel again

rayray27
Jul 17th, 2008, 10:45 PM
Saw the trailer when I went to an advance screening of the dark knight. I had no idea who the Watchmen were but the trailer was pretty interesting. Is the comic novel worth a read? If so, where should I start? lol

civ@uw
Jul 17th, 2008, 11:15 PM
Great trailer. Dr. Manhattan looks spectacular, and so do the other characters. I'm really looking forward to this one.

Saw the trailer when I went to an advance screening of the dark knight. I had no idea who the Watchmen were but the trailer was pretty interesting. Is the comic novel worth a read? If so, where should I start? lol

It's a limited series with only 12 issues, so you don't need to worry about having to start somewhere. You might be able to find it at your library, otherwise you can pick it up from a bookstore for around $20.

rayray27
Jul 17th, 2008, 11:45 PM
Great trailer. Dr. Manhattan looks spectacular, and so do the other characters. I'm really looking forward to this one.



It's a limited series with only 12 issues, so you don't need to worry about having to start somewhere. You might be able to find it at your library, otherwise you can pick it up from a bookstore for around $20.

Thanks for the tip. I looked on chapters' website and looks like they stuffed all the issues into one book, I'll check it out.

somemale
Jul 18th, 2008, 01:45 AM
man although nothing will ever come close to the graphic novel, the trailer makes the movie look pretty frickin' good..

originalnutta
Jul 18th, 2008, 02:31 AM
Anyone who hates Quicktime like me can go here...

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/watchmen/trailer



And yeah this kicks all sorts of a55.


Im buying the graphic novel now.

originalnutta
Jul 18th, 2008, 02:32 AM
WTF March 6th???


Why shows us a damn trailer now.

originalnutta
Jul 18th, 2008, 02:46 AM
:lol:

Just saw this while searching..

http://scifiobserver.com/uploaded_images/Watchmenbabiessimp.png

aelam
Jul 18th, 2008, 10:21 AM
Haha, great Simpsons gag!!

I just picked up the collected edition a couple weeks ago and just got to chapter 9 last night. It is...amazing. It is an awesome read and it's really starting to pick up. Lots of crazy ***** going on!

The characters in the first post from top to bottom:

The Comedian
Nite Owl
Ozymandias
Silk Spectre
Rorschach (! - this guy is awesome!)

thendless
Jul 18th, 2008, 10:28 AM
How come Rorschach isn't wearing his purple pants? :(

brucedlx
Jul 18th, 2008, 02:32 PM
anyway to read the graphic novel without shelling out too much money on eBay????

SnowCrash
Jul 18th, 2008, 02:47 PM
anyway to read the graphic novel without shelling out too much money on eBay????

Buy it from amazon? seriously awesome read and its like 15 bucks. It has never been out of print (dc's way of screwing moore out of royalties, he was to gain full control of it after its first print run ended, and now its going on 20 years in constant print) If 15 is too much for you, its pretty easy to find used. Some universities have it in the curriculum so you can get it cheap from the used bookstores or w/e.

aelam
Jul 18th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Chapters/Coles/Indigo is $15 online or $20 in store.

brucedlx
Jul 18th, 2008, 03:27 PM
Link?

I looked on eBay, all I can find are 12 comic books which go for $50+ as a set.

EDIT: I see it's available as a softcover book as well.

So what's with the comics then? Any difference? Better? Worse?

TBH I saw the trailer b4 the dark knight and I'm now interested.

SnowCrash
Jul 18th, 2008, 03:48 PM
Link?

I looked on eBay, all I can find are 12 comic books which go for $50+ as a set.

EDIT: I see it's available as a softcover book as well.

So what's with the comics then? Any difference? Better? Worse?

TBH I saw the trailer b4 the dark knight and I'm now interested.

The content is the exact same, the comics will have all the covers but the trade is what you want. The singles are just for collectors. I much prefer reading a graphic novel than singles anyways, but its a personal preference.

aelam
Jul 18th, 2008, 04:35 PM
This is the edition I got:

http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/Watchmen-Alan-Moore-Dave-Gibbons/9780930289232-item.html?ref=Search+Books%3a+%2527watchmen%2527

Has all the issues and is softcover. The individual covers are still in there, just are 1 page. Quite cheap when compared to other graphic novels.

I think the other one is the "Absolute" edition. Hardcover and more for the die-hard fan.

Seriously, you want to buy this book. I was a little skeptical myself (heard lots about it, pretty much blind bought it) but it's pretty amazing.

Paranoidandroid
Jul 20th, 2008, 05:15 PM
This is the edition I got:

http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/Watchmen-Alan-Moore-Dave-Gibbons/9780930289232-item.html?ref=Search+Books%3a+%2527watchmen%2527
I might have to pick that up myself. I know NOTHING of the comic but the trailer really intrigued me (the Smashing Pumpkins song was perfect).

Angela V
Jul 21st, 2008, 01:49 AM
I read the graphic novel through my local library.

CHINAdeals
Jul 21st, 2008, 02:33 AM
I might have to pick that up myself. I know NOTHING of the comic but the trailer really intrigued me (the Smashing Pumpkins song was perfect).

its a thinker though. in b/w the comics are parts of a 'novel' that exists in the world of the watchmen.. there are excerpts from pages of the novel and to get a complete understanding of the plot one should read those (supposedly)

i've tried to read it twice and i haven't gotten past the first few comics..not something you can sit down and read in one sitting/skim through

firetrainer
Jul 21st, 2008, 11:05 PM
I almost guarentee its available at your public library. I was able to to borrow it from a public library in Rexdale of all places. Im sure you can find it in yours.

civ@uw
Jul 21st, 2008, 11:43 PM
its a thinker though. in b/w the comics are parts of a 'novel' that exists in the world of the watchmen.. there are excerpts from pages of the novel and to get a complete understanding of the plot one should read those (supposedly)

i've tried to read it twice and i haven't gotten past the first few comics..not something you can sit down and read in one sitting/skim through

I'm not a fan of those bits at the end of each chapter either, and I usually just skip through them when I'm reading. They aren't all that important to the plot anyways.

jonno
Jul 22nd, 2008, 08:43 PM
Great graphic novel. Highly recommend anyone and everyone to give it a read before next March. I'll be there on opening night for sure

7Stryder7
Jul 23rd, 2008, 01:00 AM
i like that song they were playing during the trailer: the end is the beginning by the smashing pumpkins;
but i can't find the more melo version shown in the trailer; any1 know where i can d/l it :)

DVST8
Jul 23rd, 2008, 02:19 AM
i like that song they were playing during the trailer: the end is the beginning by the smashing pumpkins;
but i can't find the more melo version shown in the trailer; any1 know where i can d/l it :)

Was this the version you were searching for? Ironically enough, the same song was used in the Batman & Robin movie in '97. Enjoy! :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xSPFNq2KsFE

cmge
Jul 23rd, 2008, 09:30 AM
looks good... time to pick up the graphic novel now.. :)

7Stryder7
Jul 23rd, 2008, 02:37 PM
Was this the version you were searching for? Ironically enough, the same song was used in the Batman & Robin movie in '97. Enjoy! :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xSPFNq2KsFE

YES!!!
thank you

brucedlx
Jul 23rd, 2008, 02:49 PM
I picked up the graphic novel after watching the trailer expecting to be blown away.

But I have to say, I'm about 1/4 through it and it's not THAT great. Very average stuff, they are trying too hard to be artistic. You can't just enjoy the book, you have to really think about what you are reading.

And if you're buying the novel looking for a super-hero super-power filled adventure, maybe wait for the movie. Read the spoiler to find out.

*SPOILER*

None of these people (except for one) have any super powers at all. They just dress up and somehow fight crime. Very disappointing, I thought it would be better. Maybe it will be by the time I finish the book?

BuildBuyBreed
Jul 23rd, 2008, 04:41 PM
My cous had no idea what the trailer (movie) was about... so I lent him my graphic novel... he's still lost!

It's not focused on superheroes per se, but more about the world's (human's) demise and downfall, and the way to cope (recover) is to do the drastic thing.

Paranoidandroid
Jul 23rd, 2008, 05:28 PM
i like that song they were playing during the trailer: the end is the beginning by the smashing pumpkins;
but i can't find the more melo version shown in the trailer; any1 know where i can d/l it :)
The End is the Beginning is the original version. The slower version is called The Beginning is the End is the Beginning.

I just received my book from Chapters. I think I'll put the song on repeat while I read through the issues :lol:

evgn12
Jul 24th, 2008, 03:10 PM
The End is the Beginning is the original version. The slower version is called The Beginning is the End is the Beginning.

I just received my book from Chapters. I think I'll put the song on repeat while I read through the issues :lol:

When did you place your order? I was at the Chapters/Indigo today at Bay and Bloor and the person who works there said the book is sold out across the GTA, even though their website shows that there are still 2 left at that location and 1 at Yonge and Eglinton. There is no option to order online on their website either. The guy said that's becase a new edition is coming out. I then tried ordering on Amazon.ca but the estimated delivery date for the book is in September/October.

Would anyone consider selling his copy? :) If not then I'll probably have to try ebay or just wait for the new edition to come out.

Paranoidandroid
Jul 24th, 2008, 05:29 PM
When did you place your order? I was at the Chapters/Indigo today at Bay and Bloor and the person who works there said the book is sold out across the GTA, even though their website shows that there are still 2 left at that location and 1 at Yonge and Eglinton. There is no option to order online on their website either. The guy said that's becase a new edition is coming out. I then tried ordering on Amazon.ca but the estimated delivery date for the book is in September/October.

Would anyone consider selling his copy? :) If not then I'll probably have to try ebay or just wait for the new edition to come out.
I ordered it from chapters.indigo.ca on Monday. They had an "add to cart" option then. OOS perhaps? There are a couple of RFD threads selling the book though...

airodus
Jul 24th, 2008, 05:39 PM
One of my all-time favorite comics. Didn't even know a movie was coming out till I saw it in the TDK previews. Wicked trailer and music.

For those of you who are having trouble buying it, you can DL it off bittorrent (i just checked and it's up). I have the graphic novel from the mid 90s and it's definitely worth it to buy, even if you do DL it.

SH_Jack
Jul 24th, 2008, 05:40 PM
As a comic book nerd, it's making me pretty happy to see people reading Watchmen and seeing comics as a medium and not "funnybooks." I don't think there's anything out there quite of Watchmen's calibre but if anyone wants to get into more comics which aren't so "BLAM!" and "KA-POW!" driven, I'd be glad to suggest some.

skyblue12
Jul 24th, 2008, 05:47 PM
When did you place your order? I was at the Chapters/Indigo today at Bay and Bloor and the person who works there said the book is sold out across the GTA, even though their website shows that there are still 2 left at that location and 1 at Yonge and Eglinton. There is no option to order online on their website either. The guy said that's becase a new edition is coming out. I then tried ordering on Amazon.ca but the estimated delivery date for the book is in September/October.

Would anyone consider selling his copy? :) If not then I'll probably have to try ebay or just wait for the new edition to come out.

luckily i didn't make the trip down to stc today then.. i was at the AMC chapters and their database said the STC had one in stock.

c white
Jul 24th, 2008, 11:37 PM
For anyone looking for the Graphic novel, try calling a comic shop. I saw a large stack at 1 000 000 Comics on Yonge. That was before the trailer was released though, so they may have sold out as well. (I'm really surprised at the amount of interest that the trailer generated)

KelvinK
Jul 25th, 2008, 03:12 AM
you guys should still check out the comics section if the store shows 0 left

fmp showed 0 left and when i checked it out they had 4 lined up

grabbed one.. man the last comic i had was the simpsons ones..

KelvinK
Jul 25th, 2008, 03:13 AM
and by fmp i mean the chapters next to first markham

chicken_little
Jul 25th, 2008, 06:06 AM
I found the graphic novel very boring and can't imagine that it will be any better on the big screen. The entertainment executive who greenlighted this movie probably never even read it.

ryecatcher
Jul 25th, 2008, 02:38 PM
I picked up the graphic novel after watching the trailer expecting to be blown away.

But I have to say, I'm about 1/4 through it and it's not THAT great. Very average stuff, they are trying too hard to be artistic. You can't just enjoy the book, you have to really think about what you are reading.

And if you're buying the novel looking for a super-hero super-power filled adventure, maybe wait for the movie. Read the spoiler to find out.

*SPOILER*

None of these people (except for one) have any super powers at all. They just dress up and somehow fight crime. Very disappointing, I thought it would be better. Maybe it will be by the time I finish the book?

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but my god, you are actually complaining about having to think, and equating thinking with a lack of enjoyment?! The whole point of Watchmen is that it's a literate comic book that de-constructs the 'reality' of super-heroes in a world bent on annihilating itself. It's also a murder mystery. Brain cells are required.

Your spoiler that they don't have super-powers is no spoiler at all, since the characters are based on actual DC comic characters with no powers (Nite Owl=Batman, for example), with the exception of Dr. Manhattan.

I'm not trying to be condescending, but there is a place for mindless entertainment, and you're not gonna find it in an Alan Moore graphic novel. Stick with X-Men.

Beradon
Jul 25th, 2008, 08:13 PM
Here's a very detailed breakdown (with no spoilers) of the recent trailer. The review goes into detail of every shot and puts things into perspective.

Watchmen trailer anaylsis. (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/comic_con_2008/news/1743960/watching_the_watchmen_trailer_a_detailed_analysis)

SH_Jack
Jul 28th, 2008, 12:56 AM
Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but my god, you are actually complaining about having to think, and equating thinking with a lack of enjoyment?! The whole point of Watchmen is that it's a literate comic book that de-constructs the 'reality' of super-heroes in a world bent on annihilating itself. It's also a murder mystery. Brain cells are required.

Your spoiler that they don't have super-powers is no spoiler at all, since the characters are based on actual DC comic characters with no powers (Nite Owl=Batman, for example), with the exception of Dr. Manhattan.

I'm not trying to be condescending, but there is a place for mindless entertainment, and you're not gonna find it in an Alan Moore graphic novel. Stick with X-Men.

Having read Watchmen as one of my first comics, then reading it again after a year or so immensely hooked onto classic Marvel, I can tell you right now that the difference in how a reader appreciates it greatly depends on how familiar they are with comics.

I see Watchmen as a dry criticism on fantastical comics by Alan Moore (as Englishmen are fond of doing). So reading Watchmen without knowing a lot about comics will be like reading Catcher in the Rye when you're too young or playing MGS4 or the latest Silent Hill without playing the previous games; you can take it or leave it but you haven't been sucked into that universe and haven't got that "memory bank" of experiences that the stories play off of.

I hope that made a least a scrap of sense.

sfu_lifer
Jul 28th, 2008, 08:27 PM
Never heard of the watchmen but that trailer was spot-on great.
Now it's piqued my interest and I will surely watch it in the theatres next year.

I will also try to track down this supposedly "greatest" graphic novel ever and read it sometime in the next month :D .

I thought League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was a big heaping pile of dung. I hope this isn't more of the same.

brucedlx
Jul 29th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but my god, you are actually complaining about having to think, and equating thinking with a lack of enjoyment?! bla bla bla.

I think enough at work and I think enough at school, so yes, when I come home and it's time to relax, I don't like having to think some more about wtf the author is trying to say through his un-necessarily complex dialogue and storytelling. I hate artsy crap like "conveying themes through use of (insert literary device)", I thought I was done dissecting books and novels in grade 12 english class. IMO, if a theme or story needs "dissecting" and "analysis" to understand in the first place, it's not worth it. You can agree or not I don't care. And with a username like "ryecatcher" and an avatar of dr. manhattan, you're probably a literary buff, think you know better and that I'm another idiot left in the dark and unable to "truly enjoy" literature for what it's worth, which is fine.

I haven't read another page of the book since writing either, so I don't know if it gets any better or worse, but it definitely isn't one of those books that got me hooked like I thought it would. In fact, it was a reminder of why I like to watch movies rather than read books.

Yes, I am a braindead **** but after a day of work/school/whatever I dont care.

gflux
Jul 29th, 2008, 02:30 PM
I think enough at work and I think enough at school, so yes, when I come home and it's time to relax, I don't like having to think some more about wtf the author is trying to say through his un-necessarily complex dialogue and storytelling. I hate artsy crap like "conveying themes through use of (insert literary device)", I thought I was done dissecting books and novels in grade 12 english class. IMO, if a theme or story needs "dissecting" and "analysis" to understand in the first place, it's not worth it. You can agree or not I don't care. And with a username like "ryecatcher" and an avatar of dr. manhattan, you're probably a literary buff, think you know better and that I'm another idiot left in the dark and unable to "truly enjoy" literature for what it's worth, which is fine.

I haven't read another page of the book since writing either, so I don't know if it gets any better or worse, but it definitely isn't one of those books that got me hooked like I thought it would. In fact, it was a reminder of why I like to watch movies rather than read books.

Yes, I am a braindead **** but after a day of work/school/whatever I dont care.

I'd stay away from Watchmen then - it actually gets more rewarding the more times you read it because you start to notice all the little minutae that they designed into the book. You sound more like someone who'd enjoy reading a balls-out actionfest like Frank Miller's the Dark Night Returns. Or even see the movie, Wanted - that was a great comicbook-movie actionfest.

brucedlx
Jul 30th, 2008, 03:04 AM
I'd stay away from Watchmen then - it actually gets more rewarding the more times you read it because you start to notice all the little minutae that they designed into the book. You sound more like someone who'd enjoy reading a balls-out actionfest like Frank Miller's the Dark Night Returns. Or even see the movie, Wanted - that was a great comicbook-movie actionfest.

You're absolutely right. I did enjoy wanted (the movie). TBH, I thought watchmen would be a balls out action-fest from the trailer, with a bunch of different super-powered heroes/villains, all with their seperate agendas.

I couldn't be farther from the truth. I don't even get how some of the characters are heroes at all.

With batman, I can swallow it because even though he has no "powers", he's a bazillionaire with unlimited resources and extensive training, but the "watchmen" are (except for Doc. Manhattan, the blu guy) just your average joe wearing a (ridiculous) costume. What makes them qualified to fight crime? Who knows. This is the reason I hate DC comics, a lot of the heroes are either WAYYY overpowered (superman or Dr. Manhattan from watchmen), or they have no powers at all/very weak powers. I *will* try and finish the book though, maybe it'll make the movie more enjoyable.

airodus
Jul 30th, 2008, 10:06 AM
You're absolutely right. I did enjoy wanted (the movie). TBH, I thought watchmen would be a balls out action-fest from the trailer, with a bunch of different super-powered heroes/villains, all with their seperate agendas.

I couldn't be farther from the truth. I don't even get how some of the characters are heroes at all.

With batman, I can swallow it because even though he has no "powers", he's a bazillionaire with unlimited resources and extensive training, but the "watchmen" are (except for Doc. Manhattan, the blu guy) just your average joe wearing a (ridiculous) costume. What makes them qualified to fight crime? Who knows. This is the reason I hate DC comics, a lot of the heroes are either WAYYY overpowered (superman or Dr. Manhattan from watchmen), or they have no powers at all/very weak powers. I *will* try and finish the book though, maybe it'll make the movie more enjoyable.

The Watchmen is kind of an allegory of the typical superhero comic. That's what makes it unique and interesting. It is basically asking, what makes a hero? Powers? Costumes? Intent? And it gives a pretty candid take on what the implications are when regular people take up the mantle. I think it is a much more interesting idea than the typical mutant, irradiated, spider-bitten super hero of he week that exists in other comic lines.

Psylocke
Jul 30th, 2008, 10:55 AM
I was blown away when I saw the trailer last week. I'm definitely going to pick up the graphic novel from Indigo (although the cool hardcover version isn't available until November...)

nhui06
Jul 30th, 2008, 12:53 PM
Trailer does not look interesting... but then again I am not a big fan of DC comics (Marvel all the way). Who is the Sliver Surfer wannabe??

cmge
Jul 30th, 2008, 01:06 PM
Trailer does not look interesting... but then again I am not a big fan of DC comics (Marvel all the way). Who is the Sliver Surfer wannabe??
dr. manhattan

brucedlx
Jul 30th, 2008, 02:09 PM
The Watchmen is kind of an allegory of the typical superhero comic. That's what makes it unique and interesting. It is basically asking, what makes a hero? Powers? Costumes? Intent? And it gives a pretty candid take on what the implications are when regular people take up the mantle. I think it is a much more interesting idea than the typical mutant, irradiated, spider-bitten super hero of he week that exists in other comic lines.

lol, this is sounding worse and worse to me w/ each post. Allegory? Gah, leave stuff like that in english class.

thelefteyeguy
Jul 30th, 2008, 02:29 PM
anyway to read the graphic novel without shelling out too much money on eBay????

search watchmen.zip


im downloading thru megaupload as I type

brucedlx
Jul 30th, 2008, 02:31 PM
shame on you :evil:

lol actually I woulda done the same but I already bought this weeks ago. And this way I can read it on the can or on the bus without lugging out the laptop.

thelefteyeguy
Jul 30th, 2008, 02:51 PM
shame on you :evil:

lol actually I woulda done the same but I already bought this weeks ago. And this way I can read it on the can or on the bus without lugging out the laptop.

im glad you're not preaching ethics to me....;)


ok...off RFD...going to start reading now :O

burnt_toast
Jul 30th, 2008, 03:00 PM
search watchmen.zip



ahhh... and i was going to buy it. what was i thinking...

thanks

evgn12
Jul 30th, 2008, 04:42 PM
I just finished the novel. I expected more. The story does not have enough depth to it..maybe because the story is too short for any character development. While I appreciate the themes, the plot is too linear and predictable; there is no surprise at all. I'll read it again though just because I kind of rushed through it the first time. This is the first american comic that I've read so I can't really comment if it deserves the title of the best graphic novel of all times.. I'd say however that Japanese manga provides a much more enjoyable read.

c white
Jul 30th, 2008, 06:55 PM
I just finished the novel. I expected more. The story does not have enough depth to it..maybe because the story is too short for any character development. While I appreciate the themes, the plot is too linear and predictable; there is no surprise at all. I'll read it again though just because I kind of rushed through it the first time. This is the first american comic that I've read so I can't really comment if it deserves the title of the best graphic novel of all times.. I'd say however that Japanese manga provides a much more enjoyable read.

You must have accidentally picked up the bizarro-verse edition of Watchmen.

ryecatcher
Jul 30th, 2008, 09:39 PM
In fact, it was a reminder of why I like to watch movies rather than read books.

Yes, I am a braindead **** but after a day of work/school/whatever I dont care.

Hey, nothing wrong with mindless entertainment. I'm right there with you when it comes to wanting to turn my brain off after a stressful day, and watching or reading or playing something violent or action packed. You should see my DVD collection.

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy The Watchmen. My point is that it was never meant to be enjoyed that way. It's like wanting Kraft Dinner and going to a really nice restaurant to get it.

Yes, I am a Watchmen fan and also a fan of literature (I'm an English teacher, your worst nightmare:twisted: ). In retrospect, I was a little insulting in how I put things. I guess what I meant to say is this: there is no point criticizing The Watchmen for being something it was never meant to be. You don't enjoy it, but this is more due to your misguided expectations than a fault of the story. It's like if I picked up a copy of X-Men, and then complained that all it had was a bunch of people in goofy costumes who yell a lot and have really big muscles getting stuck in ridiculous situations. People would think I'm nuts. I'm just a little mystified by people who get upset when confronted by entertainment that challenges the mind.

KevC
Jul 31st, 2008, 12:41 PM
A friend just picked it up for me. I told her to read it before she hands it to me =) I remember reading this way back in first year, loved it dearly. I couldn't' wait for her to finish so I just started reading it online.

I love the last line of each comic...

thelefteyeguy
Aug 1st, 2008, 01:22 PM
just finished it...it's been a while since I read anything this deep.

This was great...very very enjoyable.

(if you are looking for mindless stuff...stick with Naruto and Bleach lol)


btw...def'n disagree on the character development...each chapter has sufficient storyline for each character...very similar to the present "Lost" TV series


well i hope ppl dont think this movie is going to be an action fest...cause really the trailer is just eyecandy.

burnt_toast
Aug 1st, 2008, 01:37 PM
just finished it...it's been a while since I read anything this deep.

This was great...very very enjoyable.

(if you are looking for mindless stuff...stick with Naruto and Bleach lol)


btw...def'n disagree on the character development...each chapter has sufficient storyline for each character...very similar to the present "Lost" TV series


well i hope ppl dont think this movie is going to be an action fest...cause really the trailer is just eyecandy.

how did you manage to read the ZIP? it looks like it's all jungled for me. im not sure which chapter is which and pages are also scrambled.

thelefteyeguy
Aug 1st, 2008, 02:49 PM
how did you manage to read the ZIP? it looks like it's all jungled for me. im not sure which chapter is which and pages are also scrambled.

?...unzip

and then use CDisplay

12 files (for each chapter) ...each one with the extension .cbr (comic book archive)

I hope you downloaded the right file cause its about 198mb

Vashin
Aug 26th, 2008, 10:48 PM
I just finished the novel. I expected more. The story does not have enough depth to it..maybe because the story is too short for any character development. While I appreciate the themes, the plot is too linear and predictable; there is no surprise at all. I'll read it again though just because I kind of rushed through it the first time. This is the first american comic that I've read so I can't really comment if it deserves the title of the best graphic novel of all times.. I'd say however that Japanese manga provides a much more enjoyable read.

lol





F-- YEA WATCHMEN

that is all.

oh and this:

http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=35269

F--- off fox

malbadon
Oct 23rd, 2008, 12:03 AM
new variant on the trailer was on Spike I guess.
http://io9.com/5066933/new-watchmen-footage-is-lovely-and-tormented

xpoint9
Nov 14th, 2008, 03:01 AM
New Trailer:
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/watchmen.html?showVideo=1

Paranoidandroid
Nov 24th, 2008, 01:43 PM
I can't wait for this! Rorschach is looking pretty badass in the film.

Nice song selection for the teaser and trailer, too. The Smashing Pumpkins and now Muse? I am impressed :) The Beginning is the End is the Beginning should be a main track in the movie!