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gerbil
Feb 23rd, 2008, 03:38 PM
Just as what the title says .. I don't want my kids to grow up telling me ..

"Dad .. when I grow up, I'd like to be an Insurance Agent."

What about you?


"you don't want your kids to take"

3weddings
Feb 23rd, 2008, 03:43 PM
Actor/Actress

Politician

Street performer

Model

TV News Weatherperson

Walmart Greeter

Car Salesperson

Vacuum Salesperson......ok ANY salesperson

Telemarketer


....I am sure there are more

tlamm
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:18 PM
My four year old says he either wants to be a Train Engineer or a Dog Feeder.

I'd prefer the Train Engineer, but it's his life so we'll see.

Other than a Drug Dealer, Thief, or Prostitute i'm pretty open.

CSK'sMom
Feb 23rd, 2008, 05:55 PM
Other than a Drug Dealer, Thief, or Prostitute i'm pretty open.

+1!
Who really, honestly cares? Are you going to disown your own child because of a job? We're much more concerned that our kids choose a profession that they have a passion for and hopefully choose to work to live vs. live to work. ;)

getmail99
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:51 PM
Your title is "Job Professions that your kids don't want to take"

So is it
"your kids don't want to take" or
"you don't want your kids to take"?

gerbil
Feb 24th, 2008, 07:37 AM
Your title is "Job Professions that your kids don't want to take"

So is it
"your kids don't want to take" or
"you don't want your kids to take"?

ops .. sorry ..

"you don't want your kids to take"

tebore
Feb 24th, 2008, 06:32 PM
Mothers don't let your sons grow up to be cowboys.

george benjamin
Feb 24th, 2008, 07:16 PM
any engineering

tebore
Feb 24th, 2008, 08:02 PM
any engineering

Only if your parents aren't asian. Top 3 jobs asian parents push their kids in to are:

Engineer
Doctor
Accountant

in no particular other.

Octavius
Feb 24th, 2008, 08:17 PM
I still remember when I was kid that I told my mom I wanted to be a policeman. I got chewed out so quickly, saying that being a policeman is a scary job and that people who do it die really soon. She said people become policemen anyway because if they don't catch the bad people, no one else will.

She said she didn't want to lose her only son and told me I should be a lawyer instead.

At the time, I believed everything my parents told me (who could blame me, I was 4...). The funny is though that police officers actually have one of the safest jobs in the country.

In either case, I still want to be a lawyer - however it's my choice =P

It amazes me that I still remember this conversation almost 20 years later. It's probably one of my earliest (and only) childhood memories that I still have

tebore
Feb 24th, 2008, 08:37 PM
I still remember when I was kid that I told my mom I wanted to be a policeman. I got chewed out so quickly, saying that being a policeman is a scary job and that people who do it die really soon. She said people become policemen anyway because if they don't catch the bad people, no one else will.

She said she didn't want to lose her only son and told me I should be a lawyer instead.

At the time, I believed everything my parents told me (who could blame me, I was 4...). The funny is though that police officers actually have one of the safest jobs in the country.

In either case, I still want to be a lawyer - however it's my choice =P

It amazes me that I still remember this conversation almost 20 years later. It's probably one of my earliest (and only) childhood memories that I still have

Ha I got the same treatment when I said I wanted to be a policemen at 4 too.
At like 2 or 3 I said I wanted to be a firetruck.

3weddings
Feb 24th, 2008, 09:07 PM
+1!
Who really, honestly cares? Are you going to disown your own child because of a job? We're much more concerned that our kids choose a profession that they have a passion for and hopefully choose to work to live vs. live to work. ;)

I'd love to agree with you, but all the professions I chose remind me of people I've met that are very unhappy with their choices (likely because they were a last resort).

I'd hate for an education and a brilliant mind to be wasted on any of them. I've seen it all too often unfortunately.

gnunn
Feb 25th, 2008, 08:46 AM
+ to CSK's Mom, as long as my kid is happy doing what he is doing in a legal profession then it's OK by me.

BTW, what's wrong with engineering, it's a profession that has served me well for the last twenty years or so.

mcewen
Feb 25th, 2008, 09:43 AM
...

Walmart Greeter


....ok ANY salesperson



you can only get a Walmart greeter position after you retire from your regular job.

And salespeople... there are lots of types.... Corporate sales people ( who sell from manufacturer to businesses) actually have a great job. From my experience, they don't have to even be smart to do it!

And then there are consumer salespeople....they too come in all different varieties (from your real estate agent to your Leon's fridge guy). Generally speaking they make pretty good coin.

3weddings
Feb 26th, 2008, 09:18 AM
you can only get a Walmart greeter position after you retire from your regular job.

And salespeople... there are lots of types.... Corporate sales people ( who sell from manufacturer to businesses) actually have a great job. From my experience, they don't have to even be smart to do it!

And then there are consumer salespeople....they too come in all different varieties (from your real estate agent to your Leon's fridge guy). Generally speaking they make pretty good coin.

Coin is one thing....happiness is another. I couldn't imagine any of my kids every being happy with any of those job (IMO they are not careers) choices, as they likely got stuck in them.

I have seen plenty of younger Walmart greeters, not all are retirees!

Yeah...I am a snob

PBooty
Feb 26th, 2008, 09:41 AM
OBAY.

From the makers of BecauseISaidSo.

andrew2good4u
Feb 26th, 2008, 09:53 AM
OBAY.

From the makers of BecauseISaidSo.

+1

As long as it's not illegal, it's not degrading and they are happy, who cares

Fanboy
Feb 26th, 2008, 09:54 AM
My only job in life is to keep her off the pole. :cheesygri

iamdogdog
Feb 26th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Anything that is illegal plus I.T. becasue his/her father is in IT right now.

P.S. Not sure what's wrong with "Insurance Agent" as most people will need insurance anyways.

ricoboxing
Feb 26th, 2008, 01:49 PM
+1

As long as it's not illegal and they are happy, who cares

so if theyre happy being an adult film star, you wouldnt mind?

gilboman
Feb 26th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Coin is one thing....happiness is another. I couldn't imagine any of my kids every being happy with any of those job (IMO they are not careers) choices, as they likely got stuck in them.

I have seen plenty of younger Walmart greeters, not all are retirees!

Yeah...I am a snob

a lot of B2B sales are very happy making very good coin. they get to travel around, get entertained, entertain others and make big fat bonuses. i think a person can be happy in any job provided its something they like.

3weddings
Feb 26th, 2008, 02:06 PM
a lot of B2B sales are very happy making very good coin. they get to travel around, get entertained, entertain others and make big fat bonuses. i think a person can be happy in any job provided its something they like.

Well for this mother of three, they are simply not good enough ;)
When I start paying for college/university I expect the return in investment from my kids.....as our parents expected from dh and I. I also don't expect my children to rely on commissions to pay their bills.

andrew2good4u
Feb 26th, 2008, 04:01 PM
so if theyre happy being an adult film star, you wouldnt mind?

lol that too. Maybe I should add that it isn't degrading

weedb0y
Feb 26th, 2008, 04:18 PM
Actor/Actress

Politician

Street performer

Model

TV News Weatherperson

Walmart Greeter

Car Salesperson

Vacuum Salesperson......ok ANY salesperson

Telemarketer


....I am sure there are more

What about corporate salesman who makes over a million. I would love to be that CEO that scores a multi-billion dollar deal

weedb0y
Feb 26th, 2008, 04:22 PM
Well for this mother of three, they are simply not good enough ;)
When I start paying for college/university I expect the return in investment from my kids.....as our parents expected from dh and I. I also don't expect my children to rely on commissions to pay their bills.

Ignorance at its best. Corporate Sales guys have 70K BASE + bonuses to make em over $100K easily (thats the low end ones at my firm). At my organization, I been thinking about going into sales from consulting role as it seems to be better for coin and as 90% of problems are associated with coin, I will take the coin to enjoy the life. This is coming from a young graduate in mid-management position and I had done specialist degree from UofT. Although at my firm, all of my sales guys have degrees and some even have MBAs.

Flame_lily
Feb 26th, 2008, 05:23 PM
Anything "retail". There's got to be studies looking at health issues associated with working with the public in this fast-paced customer's-always-right, cut-back-staff-hours corporate culture.

bionicbadger
Feb 26th, 2008, 05:49 PM
Lawyer <= I hate lawyers
Cop <= too dangerous
Soldier <= too dangerous
Politician <= I hate politicians

3weddings
Feb 26th, 2008, 06:00 PM
Ignorance at its best. Corporate Sales guys have 70K BASE + bonuses to make em over $100K easily (thats the low end ones at my firm). At my organization, I been thinking about going into sales from consulting role as it seems to be better for coin and as 90% of problems are associated with coin, I will take the coin to enjoy the life. This is coming from a young graduate in mid-management position and I had done specialist degree from UofT. Although at my firm, all of my sales guys have degrees and some even have MBAs.

Look who's calling the kettle black!! lol

Not ALL do, and MOST aren't content....and I want my kids to be content. I also do NOT anticipate them ending up in corporate sales period nor do I anticipate them ending up with any type of accounting designation (I know you all bow and scrape to it here) I managed an International sales team for almost a decade (likely before you entered elementary school) and know how much they hated doing what they had to do.
Both dh and I make well over most RFDers 'goal' and neither of us sell a thing :cheesygri When you are married and have a family, travel for business really isn't a 'good' thing. Unless of course the wife and kids are mere trophies.
My children have the entreprenurial spirit in them and will succeed at their chosen professions. I am merely voicing my opinion on where I would hate for them to end up.

gilboman
Feb 26th, 2008, 06:28 PM
Look who's calling the kettle black!! lol

Not ALL do, and MOST aren't content....and I want my kids to be content. I also do NOT anticipate them ending up in corporate sales period nor do I anticipate them ending up with any type of accounting designation (I know you all bow and scrape to it here) I managed an International sales team for almost a decade (likely before you entered elementary school) and know how much they hated doing what they had to do.
Both dh and I make well over most RFDers 'goal' and neither of us sell a thing :cheesygri When you are married and have a family, travel for business really isn't a 'good' thing. Unless of course the wife and kids are mere trophies.
My children have the entreprenurial spirit in them and will succeed at their chosen professions. I am merely voicing my opinion on where I would hate for them to end up.

wow... just wow...

why can't you just let your kids do what they want to do and not by what you deem will make them content. just because you do not sell a thing and are content, doesnt mean anybody who sells anything are not content:o

you managed one int'l sales team... so? did you manage every single sales team in all different sectors and know how content each person was? I know of many people in sales and are very content.

and yes they do travel, on business class and they can take their family. e.g. one of my coworker's spouse went to hawaii with the whole family because work paid for it.

it is disrespectful and ignorant to say your kids or anybody can't be content doing a particular job just because you dont think so.

do you want your kids to grow up and do what they like or do you want to run their lives?

3weddings
Feb 26th, 2008, 09:50 PM
wow... just wow...

why can't you just let your kids do what they want to do and not by what you deem will make them content. just because you do not sell a thing and are content, doesnt mean anybody who sells anything are not content:o

you managed one int'l sales team... so? did you manage every single sales team in all different sectors and know how content each person was? I know of many people in sales and are very content.

and yes they do travel, on business class and they can take their family. e.g. one of my coworker's spouse went to hawaii with the whole family because work paid for it.

it is disrespectful and ignorant to say your kids or anybody can't be content doing a particular job just because you dont think so.

do you want your kids to grow up and do what they like or do you want to run their lives?

If you go back to my original post you will see precisely WHAT I would not be PLEASED with. I believe as most of the community here feels about education, I am entitled to ensure that my children don't get 'stuck' in a job....I want the best for them and that is a career.

Remember sales jobs are good when the economy is good. They are stressful when the economy isn't. So yeah, I want my children to fret and scramble to get their commission cheques....NOT!

I don't force my kids to attend tutors. I won't EVER force my kids to do anything. We DO expect they do their best and they do. It comes easy to them, so we will continue to nurture them to excell.

Sorry if I seem to have offended sales people in the parenting forum, but it's OUR parenting style and it's working for us.

Those who have read my posts know that my husband and I are very materialistic and strive for only the best. We will not settle for anything. To us commisioned sales jobs are not! A friend of ours is an pharmaceutical sales, and when Viagra was first released life was good. Now that all those patents are running out they are refinancing their whole lives...so yeah again, sales jobs are the be all and end all of the universe....:rolleyes:

I have to remember that everyone's parenting techniques are always right :rolleyes:

gilboman
Feb 26th, 2008, 10:34 PM
Those who have read my posts know that my husband and I are very materialistic and strive for only the best. We will not settle for anything. To us commisioned sales jobs are not! A friend of ours is an pharmaceutical sales, and when Viagra was first released life was good. Now that all those patents are running out they are refinancing their whole lives...so yeah again, sales jobs are the be all and end all of the universe....:rolleyes:

I have to remember that everyone's parenting techniques are always right :rolleyes:


the best for yourself is not nescessarily the best for your kids.

you dont have to remember everyone's parenting techniques are always right. just that yours is not;) what you want for your kids that you deem acceptable may not (a lot of times it isn't) what will make them happy.

just out of curiosity..is skilled trades also not what you deem will make your kids happy?

lizard
Feb 27th, 2008, 12:48 AM
I'm not looking to start a fight, but I just really need to say that I feel this thread is pretty sad...

It's one thing to give our children a strong foundation for what they will face in this world. But for a parent to tell an influential innocent mind "you shouldn't be a policeman, because it's scary and you'll die young" is just... selfish. I know that the original poster of that story did end up doing what he wants, but the fact that he remembers that key conversion in adulthood should tell us something.

Teach our children basic rights and wrongs, help them to develop their morals, but let them be who they are.

I don't really think it's much different than disowning your child for something like being homosexual. It's just, sad.

Just Looking For a Deal
Feb 27th, 2008, 08:24 AM
Coin is one thing....happiness is another. I couldn't imagine any of my kids every being happy with any of those job (IMO they are not careers) choices, as they likely got stuck in them.

I have seen plenty of younger Walmart greeters, not all are retirees!

Yeah...I am a snob



Sad......

Just Looking For a Deal
Feb 27th, 2008, 08:24 AM
Well for this mother of three, they are simply not good enough ;)
When I start paying for college/university I expect the return in investment from my kids.....as our parents expected from dh and I. I also don't expect my children to rely on commissions to pay their bills.


Even Sadder......

Just Looking For a Deal
Feb 27th, 2008, 08:30 AM
Look who's calling the kettle black!! lol

Not ALL do, and MOST aren't content....and I want my kids to be content. I also do NOT anticipate them ending up in corporate sales period nor do I anticipate them ending up with any type of accounting designation (I know you all bow and scrape to it here) I managed an International sales team for almost a decade (likely before you entered elementary school) and know how much they hated doing what they had to do.
Both dh and I make well over most RFDers 'goal' and neither of us sell a thing :cheesygri When you are married and have a family, travel for business really isn't a 'good' thing. Unless of course the wife and kids are mere trophies.
My children have the entreprenurial spirit in them and will succeed at their chosen professions. I am merely voicing my opinion on where I would hate for them to end up.


Estimating you make more than other people do. Not currently, but their "goal" when you cannot possibly know a group of people's earnings is also sad......"arrogance should be banned" A quote from me.

Just Looking For a Deal
Feb 27th, 2008, 08:41 AM
Those who have read my posts know that my husband and I are very materialistic and strive for only the best. We will not settle for anything. To us commisioned sales jobs are not! A friend of ours is an pharmaceutical sales, and when Viagra was first released life was good. Now that all those patents are running out they are refinancing their whole lives...so yeah again, sales jobs are the be all and end all of the universe....:rolleyes:


1 person is quite the Demographic sample for a conclusive job analysis. Anyhow, I guess diversity in a person's thinking is what makes the world so unique. Just remember no job in this world is secure. Money cannot buy you happiness, and when sickness or illness strike, no money in the world will make on person survive cancer, a brain tumor, blindness, or kidney disease. Terminal illnesses are not prejudice, they kill you rich or poor. So people should concentrate on enjoying life, not making money. Too many times have I seen too much money managed poorly (aka your Viagra Rep) where someone making a tenth of that lives a better life, financially, and mentally. Money management, teach kids that, it is not what you do, bu what you do with what you have.


Sad......with all that goes on in the world that we have to discuss something as childish (for adults, not the kids) as this, me included.

Whiplash7828
Feb 27th, 2008, 03:53 PM
none of my business really......as long as it's legal.

I made my choice without giving a rat's *** what my parents thought...and I expect the same from my child. :)

3weddings
Feb 27th, 2008, 04:10 PM
1 person is quite the Demographic sample for a conclusive job analysis. Anyhow, I guess diversity in a person's thinking is what makes the world so unique. Just remember no job in this world is secure. Money cannot buy you happiness, and when sickness or illness strike, no money in the world will make on person survive cancer, a brain tumor, blindness, or kidney disease. Terminal illnesses are not prejudice, they kill you rich or poor. So people should concentrate on enjoying life, not making money. Too many times have I seen too much money managed poorly (aka your Viagra Rep) where someone making a tenth of that lives a better life, financially, and mentally. Money management, teach kids that, it is not what you do, bu what you do with what you have.


Sad......with all that goes on in the world that we have to discuss something as childish (for adults, not the kids) as this, me included.

1 person is an EXAMPLE...heard of those? My point was that in sales (of any kind, there will always be economic pitfalls...get it?)

Sad that one cannot voice their 'opinion' without being judged! Sad that in an online community people feel the need to bash opinions (because the feel they have the only right viewpoint). Sad that I know 99% of you would never be able to comment negatively (or at all) to another persons face!

As long as my children are happy and their choice is not illegal or immoral, I don't care what they end up doing. The question was what didn't I want them doing and I voiced precisely THAT opinion.

I have always and will always support them. They will always have a place to lay their heads in my home and they will never be forced to do something they don't want to.

I feel that working in the public sector as a policemen/fireman/armed forces is heroic at the least. I would be proud if my child wanted to serve in any of the above, as I have pride in my community and this country. Something thoroughly lacking in this society!

Would I be disappointed if they came home wanting to be a 'blue collar' worker, sure. Would I banish them because of it.....be real?

kaimui22
Feb 27th, 2008, 05:01 PM
I don't think we should be "disappointed" in our children if they end up in a profession in which they are happy and content. So they didn't end up being the CEO; so what? Are they happy in their job/profession? Are they making ends meet? If yes, why should we be disappointed in them? We should be proud of them for making their own decisions and supporting themselves, not be sad and disappointed that they didn't pursue something that I wanted them to.

As for my own kids, all I ask is that they are doing some legal. So what if it's an office job? Sales job? As long as they are happy and can make ends meet, I'm happy.

Just because we put them thru school, college, university..etc..doesn't mean they have to "repay" us by doing something that WE WANTED. The best reward in bringing up a kid is to see them grow up and be responsible adults.

Bazooka Joe
Feb 27th, 2008, 09:22 PM
1 person is an EXAMPLE...heard of those? My point was that in sales (of any kind, there will always be economic pitfalls...get it?)

Sad that one cannot voice their 'opinion' without being judged! Sad that in an online community people feel the need to bash opinions (because the feel they have the only right viewpoint). Sad that I know 99% of you would never be able to comment negatively (or at all) to another persons face!

As long as my children are happy and their choice is not illegal or immoral, I don't care what they end up doing. The question was what didn't I want them doing and I voiced precisely THAT opinion.

I have always and will always support them. They will always have a place to lay their heads in my home and they will never be forced to do something they don't want to.

I feel that working in the public sector as a policemen/fireman/armed forces is heroic at the least. I would be proud if my child wanted to serve in any of the above, as I have pride in my community and this country. Something thoroughly lacking in this society!

Would I be disappointed if they came home wanting to be a 'blue collar' worker, sure. Would I banish them because of it.....be real?

By making statements like that it would be easy to draw conclusions that you think you're better than people doing blue collar work. In general, I have more respect for blue collar workers than those who feel a need to tell everyone else how well off they are.

As for the topic, as long as my kid has a job, works hard and it's legal I don't care what it is. It's a lot harder to go into a sh**ty job day in and out and do your best at it than to go into a high paying job and be terrible at it.

For the record, I'm a professional engineer and a volunteer firefighter. I've got more respect by a country mile for the firefighters I work with than the engineers.

Grassgreen
Feb 27th, 2008, 10:46 PM
1 person is an EXAMPLE...heard of those? My point was that in sales (of any kind, there will always be economic pitfalls...get it?)

Sad that one cannot voice their 'opinion' without being judged! Sad that in an online community people feel the need to bash opinions (because the feel they have the only right viewpoint). Sad that I know 99% of you would never be able to comment negatively (or at all) to another persons face!

As long as my children are happy and their choice is not illegal or immoral, I don't care what they end up doing. The question was what didn't I want them doing and I voiced precisely THAT opinion.

I have always and will always support them. They will always have a place to lay their heads in my home and they will never be forced to do something they don't want to.

I feel that working in the public sector as a policemen/fireman/armed forces is heroic at the least. I would be proud if my child wanted to serve in any of the above, as I have pride in my community and this country. Something thoroughly lacking in this society!

Would I be disappointed if they came home wanting to be a 'blue collar' worker, sure. Would I banish them because of it.....be real?

Seriously, I am in no position to judge you. You are 100% entitled to feel however you want.

However, I do feel for whoever ends up wanting to marry one of your kids, and has to live up to your expectations.

3weddings
Feb 28th, 2008, 03:29 PM
By making statements like that it would be easy to draw conclusions that you think you're better than people doing blue collar work. In general, I have more respect for blue collar workers than those who feel a need to tell everyone else how well off they are.


Again....no respect for 3weddings...wahh...I am heartbroken. You are all right and I am very VERY wrong for feeling the way I do. Yes, I want my children to only have the best! There is nothing wrong with that.

I warned you a few posts ago, I am a SNOB and I worked hard to get here....I AM proud of it as I came from a blue collar home and I do not want my children nor my grandchildren to grow up in one. Last I checked pride is a good quality, as are humility and honesty. All three character traits I have :D I don't lie and I don't hide my opinions, my friends consider me a wysiwig and love me for it! So yeah, you thinking I am not a good influence really affects me :)

seff
Feb 28th, 2008, 03:48 PM
Actually, pride is one of the seven deadly sins, definitely not a good quality:D

Chigu
Feb 28th, 2008, 04:14 PM
If you go back to my original post you will see precisely WHAT I would not be PLEASED with. I believe as most of the community here feels about education, I am entitled to ensure that my children don't get 'stuck' in a job....I want the best for them and that is a career.

Remember sales jobs are good when the economy is good. They are stressful when the economy isn't. So yeah, I want my children to fret and scramble to get their commission cheques....NOT!

I don't force my kids to attend tutors. I won't EVER force my kids to do anything. We DO expect they do their best and they do. It comes easy to them, so we will continue to nurture them to excell.

Sorry if I seem to have offended sales people in the parenting forum, but it's OUR parenting style and it's working for us.

Those who have read my posts know that my husband and I are very materialistic and strive for only the best. We will not settle for anything. To us commisioned sales jobs are not! A friend of ours is an pharmaceutical sales, and when Viagra was first released life was good. Now that all those patents are running out they are refinancing their whole lives...so yeah again, sales jobs are the be all and end all of the universe....:rolleyes:

I have to remember that everyone's parenting techniques are always right :rolleyes:

I hope you do realize that almost 90% of jobs out there ARE SALES JOBS. If you're a lawyer, you have to 'sell' your expertise. Unless you plan on being low-mid level all your life (but seeing as you know you are materialistic you wouldn't want that). If you reach partner level at a law firm/accounting firm/consulting firm, you have to 'pitch' for jobs that are out there. If you're in marketing/advertising/engineering, SOMEONE at the top has to be 'selling'. So by making the statement that you don't want your kids to go into sales, is kind of telling your kids to aim low or to be average.

PS> I'm not a salesperson (not high enough in the firm), but someday hope to be!!

gheart008
Feb 28th, 2008, 04:41 PM
Only if your parents aren't asian. Top 3 jobs asian parents push their kids in to are:

Engineer
Doctor
Accountant

in no particular other.

Na, Lawyer would replace Engineer. I haven't heard many asian families directly saying they want their child to be an engineer.

gheart008
Feb 28th, 2008, 04:46 PM
I work at the second largest independent asset management company in Canada and half of our managing partners are in sales. You would be awed at their base, commission and bonus amounts annually.

I probably wouldn't want my children to end up doing retail sales as a career, but if they can earn millions doing corporate sales, it's fair game!

Anyone here who generalizes and says sales in general is bad are just either ignorant, blind, or closed minded.

gheart008
Feb 28th, 2008, 04:47 PM
I don't lie

You just did.

Whiplash7828
Feb 29th, 2008, 03:52 PM
Actually, pride is one of the seven deadly sins, definitely not a good quality:D

:cheesygri

gerbil
Mar 4th, 2008, 09:40 PM
I probably wouldn't want my children to end up doing retail sales as a career, but if they can earn millions doing corporate sales, it's fair game!

Anyone here who generalizes and says sales in general is bad are just either ignorant, blind, or closed minded.

i'd agree with you regarding sales if they do become millionaires but I do have a problem with people misleading people on the wrong products and actually benefit towards other peoples misfortunes.

I know people need to make a living, I have a hard time accepting people ripping others so they can have a better standard of living ...

Grassgreen
Mar 4th, 2008, 10:03 PM
i'd agree with you regarding sales if they do become millionaires but I do have a problem with people misleading people on the wrong products and actually benefit towards other peoples misfortunes.

I know people need to make a living, I have a hard time accepting people ripping others so they can have a better standard of living ...

What makes you think that sales involves ripping people off? Give me a break...

gerbil
Mar 5th, 2008, 12:15 AM
What makes you think that sales involves ripping people off? Give me a break...

Tell me if this don't fit the category ...
http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/marketplace/geeks.wmv
This only one of many I would like to share ... but I'm not here to bash those people but more of "How could they sleep @ night knowing that the job they've done is just not right @ all ..."

trini
Mar 5th, 2008, 12:40 AM
Nothing associated with the Culinary Field.

gheart008
Mar 5th, 2008, 03:58 AM
Tell me if this don't fit the category ...
http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/marketplace/geeks.wmv
This only one of many I would like to share ... but I'm not here to bash those people but more of "How could they sleep @ night knowing that the job they've done is just not right @ all ..."

You're generalizing sales because a few positions that you know of being of "ripping off" nature. I'd say you're probably focusing in on only 5% of the total sales community and assuming it to be 100%.

The world is bigger than you think.

gerbil
Mar 5th, 2008, 11:50 PM
You're generalizing sales because a few positions that you know of being of "ripping off" nature.

can you blame me if myself or a family member had been taken avantage of in a few different situations sold by a product or a service that was over charge???

Takada
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:56 AM
What makes you think that sales involves ripping people off? Give me a break...

...

Bwahaha!

And I don't understand why so many people are outright bashing 3weddings. I'm sure there are many parents that think like her. They don't want their children to get into a dead-end job. They don't want their children to naively go into a job thinking that they will be happy. All your expectations are just based on how you were brought up yourself. Some people here would probably draw their line at their children being a soldier. Some would draw the line at being a McDonald's Burger Preparation Officer. You just condemn 3weddings because she has a higher standard.
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Gilboman: "a lot of B2B sales are very happy making very good coin. they get to travel around, get entertained, entertain others and make big fat bonuses. i think a person can be happy in any job provided its something they like."

Yeah, that sounds lovely. When you say entertain others, I'm sure you don't mean in the comedian sort of way :lol:

ricoboxing
Mar 6th, 2008, 10:31 AM
I wouldnt want my kid to do anything associated with MLM. even though some people can make really good $$, those are the really good liars!

gerbil
Mar 6th, 2008, 06:13 PM
I wouldnt want my kid to do anything associated with MLM. even though some people can make really good $$, those are the really good liars!

... MLM??

gerbil
Mar 6th, 2008, 06:14 PM
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Bwahaha!

And I don't understand why so many people are outright bashing 3weddings. I'm sure there are many parents that think like her. They don't want their children to get into a dead-end job. They don't want their children to naively go into a job thinking that they will be happy. All your expectations are just based on how you were brought up yourself. Some people here would probably draw their line at their children being a soldier. Some would draw the line at being a McDonald's Burger Preparation Officer. You just condemn 3weddings because she has a higher standard.
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Gilboman: "a lot of B2B sales are very happy making very good coin. they get to travel around, get entertained, entertain others and make big fat bonuses. i think a person can be happy in any job provided its something they like."

Yeah, that sounds lovely. When you say entertain others, I'm sure you don't mean in the comedian sort of way :lol:


well said ... :!:

rchun044
Mar 10th, 2008, 07:56 PM
I think parents need to teach their kids to be humble and grounded and the rest will take care of itself.

Too many kids out there with aspirations of being CEOs, sales, whatever... but they have no idea what it takes to do these things. And when they start out at their PT jobs at burger king, walmart, blockbuster... they have horrible attitudes and think things like " I can be lazy, not do a good job because I wont do this forever".

If you teach your children to be the best they can be no matter what job they have even if its cleaning toilets, washing dishes, something they hate. They're going to command respect from their co-workers and bosses and start understanding the importance building networks from a really young age.....and it wont matter what they do, they're going to be happy and enjoy life.. if they have good work ethics right off the bat

ricoboxing
Mar 11th, 2008, 11:19 AM
... MLM??

multi level marketing

aka pyramid scheme

3weddings
Mar 11th, 2008, 11:32 AM
You just did.

Umm....where and when???

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Bwahaha!

And I don't understand why so many people are outright bashing 3weddings. I'm sure there are many parents that think like her. They don't want their children to get into a dead-end job. They don't want their children to naively go into a job thinking that they will be happy. All your expectations are just based on how you were brought up yourself. Some people here would probably draw their line at their children being a soldier. Some would draw the line at being a McDonald's Burger Preparation Officer. You just condemn 3weddings because she has a higher standard.
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Gilboman: "a lot of B2B sales are very happy making very good coin. they get to travel around, get entertained, entertain others and make big fat bonuses. i think a person can be happy in any job provided its something they like."

Yeah, that sounds lovely. When you say entertain others, I'm sure you don't mean in the comedian sort of way :lol:

I could just say +1,....but I always have LOADS to say. I do have very high expectations and standards for my kids!!!

I wouldnt want my kid to do anything associated with MLM. even though some people can make really good $$, those are the really good liars!

There's a good one!

gilboman
Mar 11th, 2008, 11:43 AM
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Gilboman: "a lot of B2B sales are very happy making very good coin. they get to travel around, get entertained, entertain others and make big fat bonuses. i think a person can be happy in any job provided its something they like."

Yeah, that sounds lovely. When you say entertain others, I'm sure you don't mean in the comedian sort of way :lol:


yes it is, taking clients on trips to vegas staying in suites and staying at 5 star resorts and flying first class, with big fat expense account that you can take your family along too and etc...

that is what i mean by entertain, and i know of many who do that and are very happy to do it:o