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Rakesh079
Jan 31st, 2008, 01:17 PM
Does it make a difference if I apply toner using a spray bottle vs a cotton ball?

Nikita
Feb 1st, 2008, 12:54 PM
Does it make a difference if I apply toner using a spray bottle vs a cotton ball?

I use the cotton pad/ball kinds. The spray only applies toner, the cotton ball method cleans the face of dirt/make-up/w/e/ AND tones.

On that topic, I hightly recommend the Life Brand facial cleanser cloths, which clean, tone and take off eye make-up. They're very inexpensive and yet the best I've tried. Easy to use, requires no adding of water,no suds produced (which makes taking off eye makeup sting) quick and effective. I use it each morning and each night. Follow with moisturizer, and any treatments you use, and you're good to go.

MoonDoggy
Feb 1st, 2008, 10:51 PM
how do you apply toner without a pad or cotton ball? if you just rub the toner all over your face, isn't it not really cleaning your face?

Nikita
Feb 2nd, 2008, 01:50 PM
how do you apply toner without a pad or cotton ball? if you just rub the toner all over your face, isn't it not really cleaning your face?

If you read the post I quoted, the poster talked about a spray bottle. Never heard of it myself, but hence my reply.

MoonDoggy
Feb 2nd, 2008, 03:03 PM
If you read the post I quoted, the poster talked about a spray bottle. Never heard of it myself, but hence my reply.

Yes I know, but I was asking the OP. I use the pad myself but just never heard of spray.

1yellowdog
Feb 2nd, 2008, 03:43 PM
A toner isn't supposed to clean your skin. You're supposed to use a cleanser, dry your face then apply the toner to close up your pores.

Steeve Urkel
Feb 3rd, 2008, 04:39 AM
A toner isn't supposed to clean your skin. You're supposed to use a cleanser, dry your face then apply the toner to close up your pores.

Your pores do not open and close like windows. You can't really shrink your pores either, well not permanenetly anyways.

Most toners don't really do that much and are usually just water, fragrance, colour and maybe some vitamins.
I really do not think 3/4 of the toners out there are useful.

Clinique does have a good "toner" if you can call it that. Their toners for blemishes have salicilic acid in them which helps kill bacteria and get rid of blemishes, Clean and Clear does that also and Neutrogena.

I also buy Neostrata "toning solution" and i do not see how that "tones" my skin. It does contain 8% glycolic acid, so does peel your skin and help get rid of blemishes.....but still i do not see how it tones my skin in any way.

Most of the high end "toners" are just fancy perfumed waters with vitamins and colour in them. Dior (as much as i like their other products) seems to have a lot of fancy perfumed face waters:lol: :lol:
BTW.....I did buy Dior stuff today, so i do not hate them at all....:lol:

I usually use a cotton pad or ball with my toner as it is more convenient.
But I have seen some spray toners from Yves Rocher and maybe Avene...or and Dior makes a spray tonner or makeup setting spray of some kind...lol,
I spent 1 hour at Dior yesterday.....they had a nice Dim Sum too :)

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Can I shrink my pore size by rinsing with cold water or rubbing my face with ice?
No. Contrary to popular myth, pores do not open and close. Blackheads may stretch pores, giving them an 'open' appearance, but they are the size they are, end of story. However, the good news is that with proper cleansing and treatment, you can minimize the appearance of large pores and refine the skin's surface texture by keeping it free of blackheads and excess oil.

Take care of yourself and take care of your skin. Eat right. Sleep well. Drink plenty of water. And contact our Customer Care staff if you have any questions about Murad Canada.

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MoonDoggy
Feb 3rd, 2008, 11:53 AM
^^ good post. I use toner to clean whatever chemical my cleanser leaves behind. I don't believe in toner closing pores anyways. Sometimes I get lazy and use a toner to clean my face at midday because I don't feel like washing :D

Here's another good articles about toners.

http://www.menessentials.com/oxid.php/sid/42170826047a5f0a09aec91.40211374/cl/info/tpl/tone_deaf.tpl

What Are Skin Toners?
Skin toners are products for your face. They remove the slimy disgusting gunk facial cleansers dredge from your skin.

Why is this important?

If you regularly use a facial cleanser, then you may or may not be aware that it leaves a slight residue on your skin.

Don't recoil in terror: this is supposed to happen! Good cleansers are designed to lift dirt out of your pores, which you should wipe away or trapped bacteria starts getting up to no good. This, of course, leads to the inevitable crop of zits.

The Dirt on Toners
Aside from purifying your skin, there are other perceived benefits to toning (note the word "perceived"). Some people who use alcohol-based toners believe that these tighten skin and reduce fine lines. Others insist that toners hydrate their skin, leaving their faces feeling refreshed and rejuvenated.

In reality, toners don't actually tighten skin—that's the alcohol at work— and any tonic (even water) will hydrate.

Aestheticians use toners to rebalance the skin's pH level after cleansing. Toner also prepares your face for the alpha hydroxy acids (AHAs) in fine facial moisturizers, since these won't work on alkaline skin.

Toners are typically made for two skin types: dry and oily. (You can fit normal and sensitive skin types into one or the other of these categories.)

Finding the correct toner for your skin is important. Toners for oily skin ("astringents") control oil gland activity and bacteria, while dry skin toners help with dehydration.

Alternative Uses
Besides being the middle step in your daily cleanser/toner/moisturizer regimen, toners can also be useful during the summer months or in a perpetually dry climate. Under such conditions, it's best to drink plenty of water. But also try a toner to freshen and hydrate your skin. The results may surprise you.

After exercise is also a particularly good time to tone. (Use it instead of soap.) Or try toning after air travel; it'll counteract the effects of that dry, pressurized cabin.

So tone up. It feels great. And you won't get any of that powdery laser printer stuff on your hands when you do it.