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don_lee103
Jan 29th, 2008, 10:08 PM
Assuming that there is going to be a slight decrease in demand for post-secondary education every year, I would like to know what the minimum average was for going in to UBC commerce this year. I am an UofT student who wants to transfer to UBC (I graduatad high school in BC) but as I don't have enough credits, they have informed me that they might have to evaluate me with my high school record. I graduated with approx low 80's in high school. Would this mark get me anywhere?
Let me know.

cheeseshredder
Jan 29th, 2008, 10:10 PM
It was 84 minimum last year. They have a supplemental application, but you need 84 or else they don't even consider you.

Get more credits, MUCH easier to apply with university grades...

don_lee103
Jan 29th, 2008, 10:13 PM
It was 84 minimum last year. They have a supplemental application, but you need 84 or else they don't even consider you.

Get more credits, MUCH easier to apply with university grades...

If that was the case, then there are two options.

1. Retake some of my gr.12 classes and get better grades.
2. Go through kwantlen and take the transfer program.

What would you do?

Whats the minimum average for comm transfer?

don_lee103
Jan 29th, 2008, 10:21 PM
If that was the case, then there are two options.

1. Retake some of my gr.12 classes and get better grades.
2. Go through kwantlen and take the transfer program.

What would you do?

Whats the minimum average for comm transfer?

Also, I was reading through the BCOM website and you are supposed to have lots of extra curricular activities... Is this really important?

cheeseshredder
Jan 29th, 2008, 10:45 PM
Also, I was reading through the BCOM website and you are supposed to have lots of extra curricular activities... Is this really important?

I think ECs are more important for direct highschool entry. But, more importantly is how you phrase and write your application. A lot of people I know got in, but they weren't spectacular and didn't have really high grades. On the other hand, there were some that had high grades and decent extracurricular, but still didn't get in. That leaves me to suspect that they crapped out writing the application.

What are your marks now? I'm not sure about the figures for university transfer, but I know some people with marks in the 70s getting in (however they were from UBC, so that might be different).

Perhaps you can get into UBC Arts, then transfer after, while taking as many business reqs as possible?

DarkAbyss
Jan 30th, 2008, 12:28 AM
Yah, you need at least 84 to be considered for the application and after they will base your acceptance on your supplemental application. As long as you get above 84, it is your supplemental that will get you in.

If you don't have 84, forget about it. You will not get in, your next alternative, which is the one i took is go into arts and transfer into Commerce. You will not be behind, as first year commerce take basically all courses that are available for arts students as well (Math, economics and english). So when you transfer you will be in second year commerce. I beleve it is easier to get in too, my grades in Arts was never steller, I think I had a 74% average in Arts and I got in. Though, my supplemental application was probably what got me in.

don_lee103
Jan 30th, 2008, 12:52 AM
Yah, you need at least 84 to be considered for the application and after they will base your acceptance on your supplemental application. As long as you get above 84, it is your supplemental that will get you in.

If you don't have 84, forget about it. You will not get in, your next alternative, which is the one i took is go into arts and transfer into Commerce. You will not be behind, as first year commerce take basically all courses that are available for arts students as well (Math, economics and english). So when you transfer you will be in second year commerce. I beleve it is easier to get in too, my grades in Arts was never steller, I think I had a 74% average in Arts and I got in. Though, my supplemental application was probably what got me in.

Thanks for your post. Lets say if I do what you have mentioned above but declined. If I retake courses that are required for commerce (Math, English, Economics) would they accept my new mark or would they blend in with my original mark?

urban1
Jan 30th, 2008, 01:33 PM
OP, you should contact the admissions office at UBC at the commerce faculty and ask your questions.

You need to know exact and specific details. Certain situations may treated differently and the devil is often in the details. So even getting advice from someone who went thru a similar situation as you may not give you the exact answers you need.

paheli
Jan 31st, 2008, 01:41 AM
Don Lee,

How many U of T credits will you have completed by the end of April? Are you taking intro to macro and micro economics? Have you taken differential calculus? Have you taken an introductory university writing course?

You need credits for the above courses, plus some electives, for a total of 27 UBC credits (so I believe for U of T, thats 4.5 credits).

Now if you're lacking in any of these courses or in credits, I suggest you transfer to UBC arts and finish your course requirements. Also take more electives that can count towards your BCom. You need a 60% average to enter UBC arts.

If you have all the required courses/electives, apply NOW, because the deadline is February 28th. Arts deadline is also February 28th.

The supplemental application is important. The lower your grades, the more important the supplemental.

paheli
Jan 31st, 2008, 01:44 AM
And Don Lee,

If you have less than 4.5 credits at UofT, then both your high school and university grades will be considered for admission to UBC. So for example, if you have 4.0 UofT credits, the grades in the UofT courses will be evaluated with your high school grades, and you will have to meet the cut offs for ppl coming straight from hs. The cut offs for ppl from hs at UBC is about 83% for arts, and minimum 84% for commerce.

I highly suggest you get 4.5 credits if you haven't already, and then transfer to UBC.

don_lee103
Jan 31st, 2008, 08:15 AM
And Don Lee,

If you have less than 4.5 credits at UofT, then both your high school and university grades will be considered for admission to UBC. So for example, if you have 4.0 UofT credits, the grades in the UofT courses will be evaluated with your high school grades, and you will have to meet the cut offs for ppl coming straight from hs. The cut offs for ppl from hs at UBC is about 83% for arts, and minimum 84% for commerce.

I highly suggest you get 4.5 credits if you haven't already, and then transfer to UBC.

Paheli:
Thanks for your comments. I will be transferring with either 3.0 or 4.0 credits @ UofT (With an assumption that I will be taking summer school at UBC this summer) and I have no intention of coming back to UofT this sept.
I had %81 avg going in to UBC. If thats not enough, I might study @ kwantlen for half a year then transfer.
Let me know what you think about this.
Don

DarkAbyss
Feb 6th, 2008, 08:54 PM
Thanks for your post. Lets say if I do what you have mentioned above but declined. If I retake courses that are required for commerce (Math, English, Economics) would they accept my new mark or would they blend in with my original mark?

Okay, so if you did math on ur Math, English and Economics and didn't get in. What you can do is retake the same courses (they will take the average of the two courses as your final mark) or you can take more Math, English and Economic courses to improve your average, the core average is what they mainly look at and is any math, english and economic course you have taken, even if it is not part of your average.

However, when i talked to my advisor long time ago, if you don't get in the first time, you are not meant to get in. He told me if I didn't get in but i really want to get in, the best option would be going to college to do a university transfer. Or if you are very desperate, you can always write a letter to admissions if they reject you and see what happens.

But if you do get into Arts, you have to have a backup plan. The average for the Math and Economics courses are low, if you are not good at either, it is probably best to think of alternatives. Also, if you don't have a good supplemental application (e.g., volunteer, work experience, sports, etc...,) than i would definately work on those too.

But like someone said, I would visit an advisor personally, they are very helpful, they helped me alot when I was deciding whether Commerce would be the best option for me.