Pioneer 5080HD Plasma 1999.99$ in the US (BB)

[mtommy79]

I just checked the US site and the price is 1999.99$, when you put the item in the cart. That's 1500$ cheaper, than over here in Canada. :mad:
That's kinda pathetic and might worth a drive down to the border.
Is there any Canadian retailer who would match US prices?

Anyway, i thought i let you guys know. The TV is rated "best plasma" on numerous sites/magazines.

US http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8378739&type=product&id=1179165074464

CAN http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926HDS0010090505&catid=23249

Pioneer Kuro PDP-5080 HD Review http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/pioneer-kuro-pdp-5080/4505-6482_7-32476901.html

[tickyboy]

I know it's 720p, but it looks un-freakin-believable in store. And what a rip off :evil: for Canadians.... I was pissed the other day finding the panasonic th42px75 on for $899 on a US site, lowest I've seen is $1299 CDN. BOO-URNS on that deal, and now this.

EDIT: Actually, I think I saw this Pioneer at xs cargo for $1999...but it's xs cargo, YMMV

[mtommy79]

XScargo? I would not buy anything above 20$ from them.

I wish we would have a deal like that. I would be first in line.

[Toronto Gamblers]

I agree, this TV is awesome and the price here sucks! I have the 5070 and its amazing, the picture is better than any 1080p I've seen and as stated above CNET ranks it higher than every 1080p out there. I want the 5080 for the extra HDMI inputs.

Has anyone seen a decent price in Canada or am I going to the US?

[jeffyjaixx]

Fancy seeing you here, mtommy. :D

But yeah, I agree... awesome price for Americans.

[WolfDV]

Thats nice .. I bought my 5080HD for $2350 a few weeks ago for the bedroom, love these kuro plasmas (my 6010FD is king)

futureshop had it online for $2474, so I bought it at visions with a printout, and got an additional 5% off due to the pm. ... so .. $2350 + tax .. pretty damn good for a local Canadian price.

Excellent set btw ... love the blacks ... trust me you'll never go back. sorry but ... the kuro blacks puts lasts year's 5070 to shame (which i used to have in the bedroom)

also don't fall into the 1080 hype too much, the difference is minor on a 50'' or less, unless your only a few feet away or have a 60'' set (its so beautiful) .. the enhanced blacks, and color accuracy are much more important that resolution.

Search for review on any of the pioneer kuro tv's: 4280, 5080, 5010, 6010 .. and you'll find out why they are noted as some of the very best tv's out there.

Also the XScargo pioneer tv mentioned is the 5071..... which is not the same as the 5080 that the topic is about, far worse, and older tech.

[Ad Rock]

This TV is assembled in the USA with parts from the USA (and Japan) so I think you would be exempt from having to pay any duty on it if you did decide to buy it from an American retailer.

[ZIgot]

It's sad to see how we already pay more taxes... and higher prices also...

[shootler]

here it is for $1799 us plus you get a gree upconvert dvd player..

http://www.fotoconnection.com/p70858-pioneer-pdp-5080hd-kuro-50-high-definition-flat-panel.html

[DoneDeal]

Pioneer Canada ...

6010 in US is $4400

6010 here ... $7499

[mtommy79]

I agree, this TV is awesome and the price here sucks! I have the 5070 and its amazing, the picture is better than any 1080p I've seen and as stated above CNET ranks it higher than every 1080p out there. I want the 5080 for the extra HDMI inputs.

Has anyone seen a decent price in Canada or am I going to the US?

The lowest is right now 2001 Audio Video. They have it for 2999.99$
http://www.2001audiovideo.com/product_info.php?id=PDP5080HD&clr=

[Toronto Gamblers]

This TV is assembled in the USA with parts from the USA (and Japan) so I think you would be exempt from having to pay any duty on it if you did decide to buy it from an American retailer.

Does anyone know what the process is to avoid paying tax on expensive items like this bought in the US? If I drive to Buffalo i'll have to pay Canadian taxes at the border so I'm sure I'm exempt of the US tax but the sales people will likely be clueless at Bestbuy.

[Toronto Gamblers]

I've seen a few sites in the US with prices under $1700..lowest I've seen is $1671. Disgusting what the price here is!

[crowne]

Pioneer Canada ...

6010 in US is $4400

6010 here ... $7499

Better off going to the states or pay for the shipping. Where all getting raped here with our pants on. :mad:

[leonkaz]

Does anyone know what the process is to avoid paying tax on expensive items like this bought in the US? If I drive to Buffalo i'll have to pay Canadian taxes at the border so I'm sure I'm exempt of the US tax but the sales people will likely be clueless at Bestbuy.

I bought washer and drier in Buffalo area, had to pay local state taxes, no refund, no taking this into consideration when paying gst and pst to Canada customs. They gave me real hassle btw, cause the price was too low in their opinion. The whole 9 yards - car search, empty the pockets, very hostile. Mind you I had the receipt.

[Ruf996]

This is one sweet TV, for $1999 its amazing!!

[441SQN]

Found a Canadian dealer a couple of years ago, in Oakville. Free shipping and free tuner card on pioneer plasmas ,carries several brands as well and great prices on projectors. Call and haggle.

[Pumped'Up]

anyone have any luck pm'ing this deal with FS or BB here? or getting a deal close to this price?

[BillyParadise]

Bump..... I'm moving in March and dont feel like moving my old set anymore. Anyone sees this for $2500 or less CDN (wont fit in my car so a drive down to BUF is out for me), please please please PM me!

BP

anyone have any luck pm'ing this deal with FS or BB here? or getting a deal close to this price?

[consumerPI]

What r u talking about? Canada Customs will refund taxes if you go back to the US for a refund of an item. Find out the info before you post inaccurate info.

I bought washer and drier in Buffalo area, had to pay local state taxes, no refund, no taking this into consideration when paying gst and pst to Canada customs. They gave me real hassle btw, cause the price was too low in their opinion. The whole 9 yards - car search, empty the pockets, very hostile. Mind you I had the receipt.

[consumerPI]

Try Pming Sears if they carry this model using the best buy.com info. I did this with a 50" Samsung a couple of weeks ago.

anyone have any luck pm'ing this deal with FS or BB here? or getting a deal close to this price?

[celica604]

What r u talking about? Canada Customs will refund taxes if you go back to the US for a refund of an item. Find out the info before you post inaccurate info.

I think you should read the post first. He said no refund for state tax when exporting out of the US and nothing about canadian taxes not being refunded if returning the product back to the US.

[Arcum]

I have this TV also ($~2400 from the FS sale during boxing week), it's just amazing.

It also acts surprisingly well as a PC Monitor, Crysis has never looked so good.

[consumerPI]

Where did he say all of that in the broken English paragraph that was written?

I think you should read the post first. He said no refund for state tax when exporting out of the US and nothing about canadian taxes not being refunded if returning the product back to the US.

[gelman]

From my POV..

Don't count on much more price movement from Pioneer here in Canada. Our local Atlas AV shop indicated that once the national supply of 5080's is depleted that's it for that model. Until then pricing will remain "competitive" (read: unmoved) with other Canadian HDTV's. Apparently, Pioneer wishes to move on with new and better product.


The US pricing appears a different story as their economy is tanking and with so much comp stock, Pioneer had no choice but to dump.

As well, it seems the HDTV reviewers have become our own demise, we Canadians and Europeans keep paying through the nose for premium products so there is no need to drop any prices.

Apparently, the FS pricing (for the 5080) during Boxing Day week was an anomaly and a lost leader for another game plan to keep buyers all to themselves.

And no, purchases from the US will have no Pioneer warranty attached once outside that country.

Sorry for the sad news >:(

[rfdforever]

its actually cheaper here at these two places under 1700 at both places http://www.bwayphoto.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ID=3232590
http://www.cameraaddict.com/viewproduct.aspx?id=3617957

[jimmyjamez]

its actually cheaper here at these two places under 1700 at both places http://www.bwayphoto.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ID=3232590
http://www.cameraaddict.com/viewproduct.aspx?id=3617957

uhm, have you ever ordered anything from those two sites ?
they seem very identical

[rfdforever]

no in regards to the other post about warranty would u be able to bring the tv to the states under warranty for servicing if there was a problem with it

[DoneDeal]

Look for discounts towards the mid/end of this month...

Amazing TVs all the Kuros.

[svtcanuk]

I just went to BB USA and when I added the TV to the cart the price was 2249 not 1999.

[gelman]

Look for discounts towards the mid/end of this month...

Amazing TVs all the Kuros.


Is this in Canada? Where did you get this info from ..or a best guess?

[gelman]

its actually cheaper here at these two places under 1700 at both places http://www.bwayphoto.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ID=3232590
http://www.cameraaddict.com/viewproduct.aspx?id=3617957

er.. still a US site (and purchase) ..and unless they are an authorized dealer, Pioneer will not honour any warranty.

[gelman]

no in regards to the other post about warranty would u be able to bring the tv to the states under warranty for servicing if there was a problem with it


well.. duh if you bought it there why not? US purchase = US warranty ..when serviced in the US. Same applies to any other country - - Pioneer warranties are country specific.

[SUPERMAN-01]

so as of now. what is the best price and where in toronto??

[cloneman]

I'm not surprised. Bestbuy is the company that expressly screws over canadians with policy.

Take a look at their service plans on their U.S. web site (extended warranties). Someone specifically set out to undercut canadians by offering less service (wear & tear, TV blulbs, laptop batteries are all covered in the U.S.)

[leafs]

Better get one of these models soon if you want one. Pioneer is stopping production and is going to source all their Plasma screens from Panasonic and LCD's from Samsumg.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/content/view/2362/206/

[jcoltage]

is that a good thing or a bad thing? I thought Samsung makes the best panels

[leafs]

They make the best LCD panels. But Pioneer is considered the best Plasma by most.

[weezlboy]

The new Pioneer panels will be made by Panasonic next year.
The new Panasonics coming out soon are going to be as good as the Kuros and
cost less.

http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Televisions/Plasma-HDTVs/model.TH-50PZ85U_11002_7000000000000005702

[nathangl]

Sorry bud the new panny's won't be better than the new Kuro's. The Kuro's are a truly amazing TV you get what you pay for, but panasonics are equally as good and way better deal for the price. Almost 50% of the price of Kuro. I don't think you'll ever see Kuro blacks in another plasma manufacturer you'd have ot wait until OLED. Furthermore $1999 for the 5080 isn't a HOT deal and it's coming from the US, I would bury this post.

[jcoltage]

Sorry bud the new panny's won't be better than the new Kuro's. The Kuro's are a truly amazing TV you get what you pay for, but panasonics are equally as good and way better deal for the price. Almost 50% of the price of Kuro. I don't think you'll ever see Kuro blacks in another plasma manufacturer you'd have ot wait until OLED. Furthermore $1999 for the 5080 isn't a HOT deal and it's coming from the US, I would bury this post.

This post was buried its 3 months old

Mar 12th, 2008 04:13 AM
SUPERMAN-01 so as of now. what is the best price and where in toronto??
Feb 7th, 2008 11:55 PM

[leafs]

Sorry bud the new panny's won't be better than the new Kuro's. The Kuro's are a truly amazing TV you get what you pay for, but panasonics are equally as good and way better deal for the price. Almost 50% of the price of Kuro. I don't think you'll ever see Kuro blacks in another plasma manufacturer you'd have ot wait until OLED. Furthermore $1999 for the 5080 isn't a HOT deal and it's coming from the US, I would bury this post.

Panasonic is going to be producing Pioneers plasma TV's

[mjl_toronto]

To clarify, Pioneer will continue to produce their own plasma televisions. They're only outsourcing the 'panel' which I think refers to the glass. I believe Pioneer used to be set apart because their glass manufacturing was the best. However, everyone else has caught up so there is no point in them continuing to produce their own. So they are now purchasing glass from Panasonic but will still retain their Kuro technology and image processing technology.

http://pioneer.jp/press/pdf/ir/080307_restructuring-e.pdf

I just purchased the 5080 from 2001 Audio Video for $2500. It's not as cheap as the U.S. but it's a hell of a lot better than FS or BB right now. I believe the cost for this model is $2400 so you won't get it for a lot less, especially not for $2000.

For those sitting on the fence on this model, I'd hurry up because stock is running out quick.

[mightydrake]

I saw this tv at 1999$ at Costco in Quebec. 50inch pioneer Kuro.

[6millions]

They're only outsourcing the 'panel' which I think refers to the glass.

It doesn't refer to the glass.
The panel is the actual plasma panel. Which means Pioneer would still make their own Pioneer branded sets but the actual screen will be made by Panasonic.

[mjl_toronto]

It doesn't refer to the glass.
The panel is the actual plasma panel. Which means Pioneer would still make their own Pioneer branded sets but the actual screen will be made by Panasonic.

Thanks for the clarification. I'm just glad mine is made by Pioneer. Well, whatever Pioneer/Panasonic share with eachother doesn't matter to me anymore. I'm just glad I got mine.

mightydrake, was that the 5080 Pioneer? I heard the ones at Costco were the previous generation pioneers.

[Sybersport]

When stock was starting to run dry on the 5070 (back in the summer), I remember Costco got them in stock all of a sudden, and were selling for $2799 + offered a $500 off coupon. I paid $3300 for my 5070 a few months earlier.

With that said - I'm willing to bet we will see the 5080s at Costco in the coming months, likely at a smokin price (with the benefit of their great return policy)

[fugazi11]

I've never looked at this model but it seems like a lot to pay for something that isn't 1080P. Is the picture that superior?

[gelman]

When stock was starting to run dry on the 5070 (back in the summer), I remember Costco got them in stock all of a sudden, and were selling for $2799 + offered a $500 off coupon. I paid $3300 for my 5070 a few months earlier.

With that said - I'm willing to bet we will see the 5080s at Costco in the coming months, likely at a smokin price (with the benefit of their great return policy)



I don't think so. I've been looking at buying one of these babies over the past several months. Waiting for an on-par US price drop ..but alas, not in Canada. Pioneer had such a winner that pretty well all stock in North America has sold out! ..and what's left ain't being discounted much.

The "current?" model in Costco ain't the Kuro as it's 2006 base consumer model. If you are keeping uptodate, the Canadian returns policy will shortly be mirroring the US "limited returns policy" for most big consumer electronics.

Current Pio stock in FS is apparently repackaged returns selling for near MSRP no less.

FYI, new Pioneer 9g models coming first part of June. The 10g Pioneers happening in '09 - - those will be made with a specially contructed Panny panel @ perhaps 9mm ..all nu tech:-0

[Robkoh]

I saw this tv at 1999$ at Costco in Quebec. 50inch pioneer Kuro.

I remember seeing this TV at the COSTCO in Gatineau for $1999 a couple of months ago.

[WolfDV]

I remember seeing this TV at the COSTCO in Gatineau for $1999 a couple of months ago.

no costco has ever carried a pioneer kuro set, you are mistaken. perhaps you saw the older pio 5070/5071

[Jaytee]

Considered by some as the best colour and contrast plasma which is more important then resolution in preceived image quality.

I've never looked at this model but it seems like a lot to pay for something that isn't 1080P. Is the picture that superior?

[GYR8]

I remember seeing this TV at the COSTCO in Gatineau for $1999 a couple of months ago.

The one you saw was this model:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/PlasmaTVs+Monitors/PioneerTVs/PDP-5016HD

GYR8

[darklord700]

Yeah, try and get it from them ..and be careful that it ain't a repackage (returns). My local Pio dealer says the '07 Kuro line has pretty much sold out, at least in Canada. Any stuff that's remaining is going for pretty close to list price.

But hang on, new stuff is on its way in June !

Pioneer couldn't sell enough Kuro to meet budget (budget was 750K sets and they sold like 475K sets).

So I'm holding out on buying the Kuro because I expect the G2 Kuro to be lower in price.

[cashman91]

The one you saw was this model:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/PlasmaTVs+Monitors/PioneerTVs/PDP-5016HD

GYR8

this Tv is not the the equilvant to the 5080 beacuse the 5080 has 4x HDMI ports this tv set only has 2x HDMI. It must be last gen Kuro's

[GYR8]

this Tv is not the the equilvant to the 5080 beacuse the 5080 has 4x HDMI ports this tv set only has 2x HDMI. It must be last gen Kuro's

My previous response was towards someone who was asking about the $1999.98 Pioneer plasma at Costco, which some buildings have. You are correct. It is *not* equivilant to the 5080. It's more of an economy model.

GYR8

[cashman91]

My previous response was towards someone who was asking about the $1999.98 Pioneer plasma at Costco, which some buildings have. You are correct. It is *not* equivilant to the 5080. It's more of an economy model.

GYR8

sorry my bad:o

[ThePope]

When are these due in Canada. I'm sitting on the fence, would love to get the PDP-5080HD if it goes on sale again, but I'd also like to see what the pricing and reviews will be on the new Panasonics.

This is a great buy right now, TH42PZ77, but the 50" is what I really want. My wife wants to get the TH42PZ77 and put it in the spare room. This would be good, I could use my Macintosh as a PVR and I have an extra 5.1 Yamaha receiver, but I'd have to get speakers.

I'm not crazy about having a second living room in a spare room so hopefully a good 50", for around $2500 comes around soon in the spring.

[rmihai]

[QUOTE=gelman;6555430]Yeah, try and get it from them ..and be careful that it ain't a repackage (returns). My local Pio dealer says the '07 Kuro line has pretty much sold out, at least in Canada. Any stuff that's remaining is going for pretty close to list price.

QUOTE]

Best Buy Canada is sold out of 5080HD. Same with 2001 Audio Video. Nowhere to be found except Future Shop. And they have only 75 NEW (not repackaged) sets left. I was wainting for a price drop, but with these sell off I realized that will never come. I ordered my 5080 1 hour ago at FS for $2700+taxes.

Good luck to those who are waiting for a price drop. And congrats to those who will REALLY buy one.

In regards the G2 Kuro - forget about it if you are in a budget. They will be around $4000.

[darklord700]

[QUOTE=gelman;6555430]
Good luck to those who are waiting for a price drop. And congrats to those who will REALLY buy one.

In regards the G2 Kuro - forget about it if you are in a budget. They will be around $4000.

Congrats on buying an excellent set! I would have no problem shelling out $2500 for the 5080 Kuro. However, my Sony RPTV is still serving me very well and I feel guilty dumping a perfectly fine (better than most LCD) set just to buy the latest and greatest.

Anyone knows how I can speed up the aging process of my RPTV? I have thought of pouring water down on it but would like a method that is more subtle.

[Ven0r]

[QUOTE=rmihai;6563564]

Congrats on buying an excellent set! I would have no problem shelling out $2500 for the 5080 Kuro. However, my Sony RPTV is still serving me very well and I feel guilty dumping a perfectly fine (better than most LCD) set just to buy the latest and greatest.

Anyone knows how I can speed up the aging process of my RPTV? I have thought of pouring water down on it but would like a method that is more subtle.

If you have a US addy they're $1622.99 at buy.com right now. They had stock earlier today, and will most likely will have some more soon. You can order and they'll ship when in.

http://www.buy.com/prod/pdp-5080hd-50in-plasma-1365x768-w-tnr-stn-spk/q/loc/111/204770938.html

[gelman]

[QUOTE=darklord700;6563746]

If you have a US addy they're $1622.99 at buy.com right now. They had stock earlier today, and will most likely will have some more soon. You can order and they'll ship when in.

http://www.buy.com/prod/pdp-5080hd-50in-plasma-1365x768-w-tnr-stn-spk/q/loc/111/204770938.html


You may not be aware.. that Buy.com ain't an anointed
dealer of Pio products; hense no warranty. Applies even more so if imported into the Canadian market.

[mtommy79]

[QUOTE=gelman;6555430]Yeah, try and get it from them ..and be careful that it ain't a repackage (returns). My local Pio dealer says the '07 Kuro line has pretty much sold out, at least in Canada. Any stuff that's remaining is going for pretty close to list price.

QUOTE]

Best Buy Canada is sold out of 5080HD. Same with 2001 Audio Video. Nowhere to be found except Future Shop. And they have only 75 NEW (not repackaged) sets left. I was wainting for a price drop, but with these sell off I realized that will never come. I ordered my 5080 1 hour ago at FS for $2700+taxes.

Good luck to those who are waiting for a price drop. And congrats to those who will REALLY buy one.

In regards the G2 Kuro - forget about it if you are in a budget. They will be around $4000.

Congrats on your purchase.

I was the one who created this thread almost two months ago. Since then i picked up the 5010FD Kuro for 3999.99$+tax from Best Buy. What's weird is that the price is the same as in the US, so i really don't understand why the 5080HD is much more over here.
Anyway if you can still find a 5080HD, don't hesitate because it's a truly amazing display even though it's 720p.

[Toronto Gamblers]

Sorry bud the new panny's won't be better than the new Kuro's. The Kuro's are a truly amazing TV you get what you pay for, but panasonics are equally as good and way better deal for the price. Almost 50% of the price of Kuro. I don't think you'll ever see Kuro blacks in another plasma manufacturer you'd have ot wait until OLED. Furthermore $1999 for the 5080 isn't a HOT deal and it's coming from the US, I would bury this post.

How is $1999 not a hot price?? Has anyone even seen it at that price lately?
I'd buy it immediately at $1999!

[cashman91]

same if i could get for 2 grand i would buy it in a second read my sig

thanks

[darklord700]

Sorry bud the new panny's won't be better than the new Kuro's. The Kuro's are a truly amazing TV you get what you pay for, but panasonics are equally as good and way better deal for the price. Almost 50% of the price of Kuro. I don't think you'll ever see Kuro blacks in another plasma manufacturer you'd have ot wait until OLED. Furthermore $1999 for the 5080 isn't a HOT deal and it's coming from the US, I would bury this post.

I've read reports saying the new Panny will be about at the Kuro level in terms of black level. Pioneer is using Panny's panel so it's not hard to see that it is at least possible that Panny could have licensed or incorporated Pioneer's technology in their new generation of plasma.

And Panny is always cheaper than Pionner. I'm holding out on buying the Kuro now after learing that the new Pannys are coming out.

[scamp]

Hey just wondering from sites listed before (www.cameraaddict.com ) or (www.bwayphoto.com) has anyone bought from these sites out of New York??
Others I see listed that are cheaper are deals south online BUT I beleive you lose warranty and pay for insurance+shipping ?

I was looking at the New Panasonic PZ85U only offered in US with the 30000:1 contrast and 3 hdmi connections,1080P...Any thoughts?

[TJ09]

had to respond as a Newbie...I waited....waited....waited...I just scored a "new" Pioneer PDP-5080HD for $1425 CDN gst included and no provincial tax(AB) on clearance...when patience pays off....my score on this puppy...:cheesygri