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Kommander_KornFlakes
Nov 6th, 2007, 08:06 PM
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LOL finally I heard an accurate explanation why alien lifeforms don't communicate with us even when they acknowledge us and know we exist.

We are insignificant bacteria to them.

Would you kneel down to a stain on the ground and try to have an intelligent dialogue with the moving bacteria within it? There you go.

We humans are so miniscule and insignificant to advanced intelligent alien lifeforms (who probably don't have biological bodies but are forms of energy) that they see the speck of grain called Earth and know living organisms live there but neglect us altogether because after all, what good thing can a grain of dirt with bacterium offer them? >:(

Do any of you agree with this concept?
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kuqdew
Nov 6th, 2007, 08:08 PM
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LOL finally I heard an accurate explanation why alien lifeforms don't communicate with us even when they acknowledge us and know we exist.

We are insignificant bacteria to them.

Would you kneel down to a stain on the ground and try to have an intelligent dialogue with the moving bacteria within it? There you go.

We humans are so miniscule and insignificant to advanced intelligent alien lifeforms (who probably don't have biological bodies but are forms of energy) that they see the speck of grain called Earth and know some bacterium live there but neglect us altogether because after all, what good thing can a gran of dirt with bacterium offer to them >:(

Do any of you agree with this concept?
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No, I dont believe theres aliens.

Kommander_KornFlakes
Nov 6th, 2007, 08:17 PM
No, I dont believe theres aliens.

Here's an Earth bacterium still thinking that his speck of dirt (Earth) is "special" and the center of the Universe.

Drunk with pride and narcicism he thinks his stain of bacteria (humans) are special and unique in the Universe just because his species cannot comprehend or even able to see the higher lifeforms that exist outside their enclosed tiny cocoon due to their lack of technology SIGH >:(
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Grassgreen
Nov 6th, 2007, 08:17 PM
Did you say "accurate" explanation?

I don't believe there are aliens either.

kuqdew
Nov 6th, 2007, 08:18 PM
Did you say "accurate" explanation?

I don't believe there are aliens either.

Kuqdew: 1

Kommander_KornFlakes: 0

:cheesygri

Kommander_KornFlakes
Nov 6th, 2007, 08:21 PM
Did you say "accurate" explanation?

I don't believe there are aliens either.

Yes, and I bet some tiny lizards in the Amazon jungle also do not believe humans exist, after all they cannot see past north of their jungle canopy and see what's 3,000 miles away :o

Grassgreen
Nov 6th, 2007, 08:23 PM
Yes, and I bet some tiny lizards in the Amazon jungle also do not believe humans exist, after all they cannot see past north of their jungle canopy and see what's 3,000 miles away :o

Well, you've really got me there! I mean, how can I possibly argue with logic like that?

Give me a break

Kommander_KornFlakes
Nov 6th, 2007, 08:27 PM
Well, you've really got me there! I mean, how can I possibly argue with logic like that?

Give me a break

I just gave you a metamorphical analogy, if you took it literally then I now understand why you think there are no other lifeforms out in the Universe :o
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Grassgreen
Nov 6th, 2007, 08:31 PM
metamorpical is a big word....you should be proud that you were finally able to use it in a sentence.

danfromwaterloo
Nov 6th, 2007, 08:33 PM
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LOL finally I heard an accurate explanation why alien lifeforms don't communicate with us even when they acknowledge us and know we exist.

We are insignificant bacteria to them.

Would you kneel down to a stain on the ground and try to have an intelligent dialogue with the moving bacteria within it? There you go.

We humans are so miniscule and insignificant to advanced intelligent alien lifeforms (who probably don't have biological bodies but are forms of energy) that they see the speck of grain called Earth and know living organisms live there but neglect us altogether because after all, what good thing can a grain of dirt with bacterium offer to them >:(

Do any of you agree with this concept?
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The beauty with hypothesizing about aliens is that anything you say is unfalsifiable. There's nothing that disproves your thought. I personally think that all aliens look like cats. They all talk a dialect of urdu. They wear green footie pyjamas and pray to Gene Simmons.

And I'm just as right as you are. Or at least just as WRONG as you are.

toalan
Nov 6th, 2007, 08:58 PM
I share the same opinion as the OP, humans think they are the shizzle and they believe that if intellegent life was out there they would take the first bus to earth and want to hang out with us.

Perhaps technology as we see it today is not a sign of true intellegence, maybe in time technology and spirituality will be unified and then the aliens would see us as worthy to have a conversation with.

There is alot more to the universe than we actually see, I think even the grandest sci fi movies would pale in comparision with the truth of what is really beyond our plain sight.

I do believe in aliens, at the same time I realize that if it were true it would be profound but also it would not signifcantly impact many people's lives. I am probably not going to find out if there really are intellegent aliens in my lifetime so it really does not matter.

If there are aliens then please beam me up, I would gladly sacrifice my life to seek the truth.

rayner55
Nov 6th, 2007, 09:03 PM
someone should post a link of that youtube video showing how small and insignificant earth is in the universe. im too lazy to search that vid up.

Kommander_KornFlakes
Nov 6th, 2007, 09:36 PM
Perhaps technology as we see it today is not a sign of true intellegence

What close-minded insignificant humans cannot comprehend is that their most advanced technology such as space shuttles, satellites and radio-frequency communications is seen by other higher lifeforms as non-intelligent and are unfazed by it. For example, an alien super-advanced civilization might see us and our technology as simply a mole infecting an orange, with us being the mole and the solar system being the orange. Some other lifeforms are so big (and certaintly not biological) that they might see our planet as a cell that you need a microscope to see it.

The comments made by some people in this thread reinforces my theory of how absurd and centre-minded humans are.
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Spray
Nov 6th, 2007, 09:38 PM
Sound's like a pretty accurate explanation to me.

Clearly they're reading your threads.

Ziggy007
Nov 6th, 2007, 09:41 PM
I personally believe other forms of intelligent life exist in the universe (and really they HAVE too, there are so many billions, even trillions of planets that is is impossible for us to be the only ones).

Whether or not they are vastly superior, far inferior, take the shape of a physical appearance, or are merely energy does not take away anything from the human race, or make us any less significant.

Is it narcissistic to assume that we are the center of all in the universe? Yes. Can we be blamed? No. Simply put in the grand scheme of things we are kids that don't know any better, but we are moving forward in most aspects of society.

gordholio
Nov 6th, 2007, 09:52 PM
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LOL finally I heard an accurate explanation why alien lifeforms don't communicate with us even when they acknowledge us and know we exist.

We are insignificant bacteria to them.

Would you kneel down to a stain on the ground and try to have an intelligent dialogue with the moving bacteria within it? There you go.

We humans are so miniscule and insignificant to advanced intelligent alien lifeforms (who probably don't have biological bodies but are forms of energy) that they see the speck of grain called Earth and know living organisms live there but neglect us altogether because after all, what good thing can a grain of dirt with bacterium offer them? >:(

Do any of you agree with this concept?
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Anything is possible with pure speculation or wild ideas or imagination.

toalan
Nov 6th, 2007, 09:52 PM
What close-minded insignificant humans cannot comprehend is that their most advanced technology such as space shuttles, satellites and radio-frequency communications is seen by other higher lifeforms as non-intelligent and are unfazed by it. For example, an alien super-advanced civilization might see us and our technology as simply a mole infecting an orange, with us being the mole and the solar system being the orange. Some other lifeforms are so big (and certaintly not biological) that they might see our planet as a cell that you need a microscope to see it.

The comments made by some people in this thread reinforces my theory of how absurd and centre-minded humans are.
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There are technologies which I think are milestones that are a prerquesite to finding other intellegent beings and to communicate with them. I feel strongly that travelling at close to Light speed is one of those prerequisites, that would require a great input of energy and we are so far from that.

If intellegent beings would contact us, all we would do is try to gain their technology, in every conversation all we would do is ask them to baby step us through their technology. Why on earth would any aliens try to contact us if all we want is to take from them?

I believe that the pursuit of the Grand unified Theory is a noble one, and that in time once we reconcile the 4 basic forces; strong nucleic, weak nucleic, gravity, eletricity and magnitism, then that would open the floodgate to developing the technoligies that would make us worthy of contact. Einstien reconciled space, time, mass, gravity and energy. Maxwell reconciled Electricity and magnitism. Now we just need a couple of smart guys to do the rest and wikipedia the info and bingo the red carpet will roll out and the aliens will come to us in UFOs sporting 20 inch rimz.

heymikey
Nov 6th, 2007, 10:01 PM
I just gave you a metamorphical analogy, if you took it literally then I now understand why you think there are no other lifeforms out in the Universe :o
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Instead of being "metamorphical", you should have just went directly to the point and quoted Werner Von Braun:

“Our sun is one of 100 billion stars in our galaxy. Our galaxy is one of billions of galaxies populating the universe. It would be the height of presumption to think that we are the only living things in that enormous immensity.”

Emancipated
Nov 6th, 2007, 10:15 PM
Somebody has been listening to Michio Kaku lately. Sounds like something he would say.

king_george
Nov 6th, 2007, 10:51 PM
I'd like to meet them just to find out which laws of physics have been broken to permit easy interstellar travel.

Besides, commuunications would most likely be next to impossible unless they used the same technology as we do as in the electromagnetic spectrum. Heck we can't communicate amongst ourselves easily.

Speculation is fun and anyone can do it. Accuracy is neither wanted nor required...:D

ETA: WTF is "metamorphical"? Is that even a word?

flygo
Nov 6th, 2007, 11:02 PM
What close-minded insignificant humans cannot comprehend is that their most advanced technology such as space shuttles, satellites and radio-frequency communications is seen by other higher lifeforms as non-intelligent and are unfazed by it. For example, an alien super-advanced civilization might see us and our technology as simply a mole infecting an orange, with us being the mole and the solar system being the orange. Some other lifeforms are so big (and certaintly not biological) that they might see our planet as a cell that you need a microscope to see it.

The comments made by some people in this thread reinforces my theory of how absurd and centre-minded humans are.
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the difference though, between us and bacteria is that we're self-aware. that itself should deserve some rating of "intelligence" by any alien species ;)

though...i personally think that aliens aren't watching over us, but probably are too far away to communicate (if they're even aware we exist)

Oni-kun
Nov 6th, 2007, 11:04 PM
Anybody who doesn't believe in life outside of our planet is a f*cking idiot. The statistics are against you, it is like a gazillion times more likely that there is life out there besides us than the possibility that there is absolutely nothing.

gman
Nov 6th, 2007, 11:07 PM
Did you watch Men in Black? Our universe is just a tiny marble in a marble jar of an Alien kid.

Lone_Prodigy
Nov 7th, 2007, 12:01 AM
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LOL finally I heard an accurate explanation why alien lifeforms don't communicate with us even when they acknowledge us and know we exist.

Because of threads like these.

hyperion
Nov 7th, 2007, 12:05 AM
I disagree. They just haven't found us yet.

heymikey
Nov 7th, 2007, 12:07 AM
though...i personally think that aliens aren't watching over us, but probably are too far away to communicate (if they're even aware we exist)
Probably. Earth is like Nunavut. People who've heard of it knows that life there exists but nobody in their right mind would want to go there just to see what it's like even though it's technically possible.

stealth
Nov 7th, 2007, 02:34 AM
Do any of you agree with this concept?

Its possible, so I wouldnt rule it out.
But your first couple of responses to posters giving their opinions make this thread seem like a troll. Why ask an open ended question like this if you want to just mock opinions different from their own?

Kommander_KornFlakes
Nov 7th, 2007, 05:25 AM
the difference though, between us and bacteria is that we're self-aware. that itself should deserve some rating of "intelligence" by any alien species ;)



Another self-centered assumption, and how do you know bacteria are not self-aware? They might have their own primitive self-awareness for all we know, years ago scientists discvered that trees have "feelings" and communicated with each other. When a particular tree in a forest got infected with a leaf-eating worm it would communicate with the other sorrounding trees and these ones would produce "less good-tasting" leafs so the worm would not infect them.
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deep
Nov 7th, 2007, 05:29 AM
I think "otherworldly aliens" stumbled upon Off Topic, and have decided to stay away from tard-ville. But of course, I'm only speaking in a metamophicalicious analogicalously way. You, K_K, are specifically responsible for denying all the other nerds "first contact".

sockhead
Nov 7th, 2007, 01:55 PM
Another self-centered assumption, and how do you know bacteria are not self-aware? They might have their own primitive self-awareness for all we know, years ago scientists discvered that trees have "feelings" and communicated with each other. When a particular tree in a forest got infected with a leaf-eating worm it would communicate with the other sorrounding trees and these ones would produce "less good-tasting" leafs so the worm would not infect them.
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You're pretty arrogant for someone that seems to know next to nothing about what they're talking about. Self-awareness comes from the complex interactions between neurons in the brain. That's it. Bacteria are unicellular prokaryotic organisms. They certainly do not possess any kind of self-awareness, because they do not have any central thinking center. In fact, they don't have any complex organelle structures at all. They are bags of chemicals. Any kind of "humanistic response" that you seem to think that they'd evoke is purely a reaction to a natural stimulus in the environment. Your need to humanize responses to ecological stimuli in nature just goes to show how much of a centralist you are. Trees don't "feel". They respond.

I know plenty of people that are arrogant for what they know, and it's despicable. People that are arrogant for things that they don't know? Stupid. But I guess that's right down your alley right? Believing in the literal word of the bible...

Spray
Nov 7th, 2007, 02:08 PM
Sock head wins, end the thread please.
http://lolcat.com/pics/tothemooncat.jpg

You're pretty arrogant for someone that seems to know next to nothing about what they're talking about. Self-awareness comes from the complex interactions between neurons in the brain. That's it. Bacteria are unicellular prokaryotic organisms. They certainly do not possess any kind of self-awareness, because they do not have any central thinking center. In fact, they don't have any complex organelle structures at all. They are bags of chemicals. Any kind of "humanistic response" that you seem to think that they'd evoke is purely a reaction to a natural stimulus in the environment. Your need to humanize responses to ecological stimuli in nature just goes to show how much of a centralist you are. Trees don't "feel". They respond.

I know plenty of people that are arrogant for what they know, and it's despicable. People that are arrogant for things that they don't know? Stupid. But I guess that's right down your alley right? Believing in the literal word of the bible...

Brownbear
Nov 7th, 2007, 02:30 PM
Sock head wins, end the thread please.
http://lolcat.com/pics/tothemooncat.jpg

+1

im getting annoyed with kk's posts.

Kommander_KornFlakes
Nov 7th, 2007, 06:06 PM
Self-awareness comes from the complex interactions between neurons in the brain. That's it. Bacteria are unicellular prokaryotic organisms. They certainly do not possess any kind of self-awareness, because they do not have any central thinking center.

That's exactly what super-intelligent alien lifeforms think about us humans, thanks for proving my theory even further.
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vilator
Nov 7th, 2007, 07:28 PM
so have you ever tried having a conversation with a bacteria?

MkmBandit
Nov 7th, 2007, 07:34 PM
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LOL finally I heard an accurate explanation why alien lifeforms don't communicate with us even when they acknowledge us and know we exist.

We are insignificant bacteria to them.

Would you kneel down to a stain on the ground and try to have an intelligent dialogue with the moving bacteria within it? There you go.

We humans are so miniscule and insignificant to advanced intelligent alien lifeforms (who probably don't have biological bodies but are forms of energy) that they see the speck of grain called Earth and know living organisms live there but neglect us altogether because after all, what good thing can a grain of dirt with bacterium offer them? >:(

Do any of you agree with this concept?
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This EXACT argument was made on a Discovery Channel feature on UFO sightings. You're a few years too late with your theory KK.

sockhead
Nov 7th, 2007, 10:31 PM
That's exactly what super-intelligent alien lifeforms think about us humans, thanks for proving my theory even further.
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You're completely ridiculous.

king_george
Nov 7th, 2007, 10:40 PM
You're completely ridiculous.

Par for the course.

Nothing new here folks, move along. We'll have this accident cleared in no time.

Spray
Nov 7th, 2007, 10:53 PM
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/300W/images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/111/0/e/Don__t_feed_the_Troll.jpg

That's exactly what super-intelligent alien lifeforms think about us humans, thanks for proving my theory even further.
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Stoe99
Nov 7th, 2007, 11:01 PM
I am going to put it very simply. You would have to be incredibly stupidly narrow minded and naive to believe we are the only forms of intelligent life on this earth.

The following is a picture from the Hubble telescope (it's not of an alien or UFO)

http://www.firstpr.com.au/astrophysics/hubble-deep-field/hubble-deep-field-northern-detail-rw-caption.jpg

We live in the the Milky Way Galaxy, this is one galaxy with 9 planets. The above picture shows approximately 10,000 galaxies, as far as the Hubble telescope can see, to say that there is no other intelligent life in at least 1 of those galaxies is stupid. BTW, there are probably hundreds of billions of other galaxies that we can't see with the Hubble, and that photo is only 1/87,300,000th of the night sky. So don't be so naive and say there isn't other intelligent life

loho33
Nov 8th, 2007, 12:09 AM
I am going to put it very simply. You would have to be incredibly stupidly narrow minded and naive to believe we are the only forms of intelligent life on this earth.

The following is a picture from the Hubble telescope (it's not of an alien or UFO)

http://www.firstpr.com.au/astrophysics/hubble-deep-field/hubble-deep-field-northern-detail-rw-caption.jpg

We live in the the Milky Way Galaxy, this is one galaxy with 9 planets. The above picture shows approximately 10,000 galaxies, as far as the Hubble telescope can see, to say that there is no other intelligent life in at least 1 of those galaxies is stupid. BTW, there are probably hundreds of billions of other galaxies that we can't see with the Hubble, and that photo is only 1/87,300,000th of the night sky. So don't be so naive and say there isn't other intelligent life

My head hurts everytime I see that pic...incredible how miniscule and and insignificant we are in the large scheme of things. Here we are working 9-5 worrying about what we wear while trillion miles away aliens have perfected civilization.

jeffyjaixx
Nov 8th, 2007, 01:18 AM
Pure speculation but I do believe in aliens.

formalentity
Nov 8th, 2007, 01:45 AM
I'm in the middle for this one, I think the reason most people believe theres more then just humans out there is clearly because of the fact that the universe is HUGE, and imo it doesn't make sense for it to be left empty :P ,or maybe the universe is reserved for us for living in the future =/. I'm sure by then we will have the technology to live most anywhere. Just imo :]

rogeryen
Nov 8th, 2007, 01:48 AM
Until I actually see a real alien, UFO, heck even a piece of cloth worn by aliens, I will just believe in God.

formalentity
Nov 8th, 2007, 01:51 AM
I am going to put it very simply. You would have to be incredibly stupidly narrow minded and naive to believe we are the only forms of intelligent life on this earth.

We live in the the Milky Way Galaxy, this is one galaxy with 9 planets. The above picture shows approximately 10,000 galaxies, as far as the Hubble telescope can see, to say that there is no other intelligent life in at least 1 of those galaxies is stupid. BTW, there are probably hundreds of billions of other galaxies that we can't see with the Hubble, and that photo is only 1/87,300,000th of the night sky. So don't be so naive and say there isn't other intelligent life

True but I think the reason people even speculate is because of those many people who claim they've seen one right :P, or that they've been abducted, and plus all the photographs which most are likely fake but are on the net or in museums. But to this day, I have not yet seen a UFO, nothing out of the ordinary EVER, maybe it only happens in the U.S. :P.

icecold2021
Nov 8th, 2007, 02:18 AM
i read something similar to what youre saying in a cosmos article. is that where you got this idea from?

anyway it bases civilizations on a level 1 to 3 based on their energy consumption and ability to harness such. in the article it puts earth at about a .8 the concept of the level 3 civilization is quite amazing, harnessing the sun for power even preventing dying stars from becoming a supernova and manipulating blackholes.

in the article it mentions how any civilization at level 3 wouldn't even bother a double take on humanity.


not that any of it matters in our lifetime.