Rfd Hostility!

[goddess]

There are LOTS of AWESOME posters around here, and lots have given me great advice on future purchases!

..and i love, love, love gettin' a good deal.

RFD is GREAT!

Just a makin' a suggestion to make it even better.

hopefully my head doesn't get bitten off for this question...

imo, people seem to bite everyone's heads off around here!!

*everyone has to apologize before they ask ask a question....

*apologize when they post a new thread that might have already been posted (even though they did a search that turned up nothing)...

*threads get locked, deleted, merged with out so much as a "thank you for contributing"...

*people get flamed to hell when they think they're posting a hot deal that might not be very hot (wtf?)...

what's with all the RFD negativity???

i think this place would get more activity and lots more deals would be posted if it was less of a hostile environment sometimes...

just my two cents!
flame away if you want. i've got my flame suit on ;)

xo,
goddess.

[V A N Q U I S H]

+1 on that, before I post I try to make sure I have all my bases covered otherwise a flame war erupts over nothing.

[CHINAdeals]

+1 good point

we could ALWAYS be nicer in our posts..some stuff is just uncalled for ..but honestly. among other forums.

RFD IS ONE OF THE BEST

in terms of ppl and what they say (what they are 'allowed' to say) and how helpful ppl can be..

there's a million other forums out there that a SO much worse than this..racial slurs/profanity/trolls etc..its one of the few things this world has too much of... idiots

now with that.. RFD can be harsh at times..but honestly its almost a 'righteous' hate..

some ppl purposely post in the Hot deals forum for their own BST threads..some ppl post in BST..selling a pair of nikes..computer ram..whatever..and arent' getting that much response..then move it to Hot deals to try to get more 'hits'.

while some don't know the hot deals forum isn't for shopping discussion/ bst..some do..and if you've been here long enough you've seen enough of this.

aside from that..theres the mdg/2001audiovideo/spam threads..some of which aren't out to 'harm'. but again.. some are employees of the companies / looking for comission/ spamming..

overall RFD could be 'nicer'. i mean who couldn't in our day and age.but realistically this is one of the best run forums on the net that i've found so far

cheers to the mods and everyone else.

[goddess]

before I post I try to make sure I have all my bases covered

it shouldn't have to be that way!

it's sad seeing people with under 10 posts who try to contribute and get flamed to hell for something like posting in the wrong forum, or posting an mdg sale, lol

you never see these posters come back, and it's a shame.

retardedness!

[goddess]

there's a million other forums out there that a SO much worse than this..racial slurs/profanity/trolls etc..its one of the few things this world has too much of... idiots


i totally agree with you on this point!

again, i stress the point that rfd is GREAT!


overall RFD could be 'nicer'

^but that's the message i'm trying to get across with this thread..

honestly, i think we're turning away some good people unnecessarily...

i mean, should "i hope you got your flame suit on" be such a common sentiment around here? lol

[Ogata]

People can say what they want to say as long as you don't have an intention to start something.

[ChinpokoMon]

Thank you for contributing.

[goddess]

Thank you for contributing.

sarcasm noted!

[CHINAdeals]

sarcasm noted!

lolol. funny

I wish the lurkers would do less lurking and more posting.

and for world peace

[billdozer]

REPOST

[bubble.tea]

Thank you for contributing.

lolz. I didn't take this as sarcasm...perhaps I'm too naive.

In all honesty, I do see whereyou're coming from-however to some extent I think we should remind ourselves that it's all in good fun, and all with a grain of salt.

I personally think RFD is actually one of the BETTER, and MORE forgiving sites out there. Cough, Some sites are just VICIOUS with n00bs, and blogger-hiccups.

[JAC]

Dear new user,

Welcome to the Internet. We realize that leaving AOL and venturing into the wild unknown of the World Wide Web is a little intimidating, but congratulations nonetheless on taking your first steps toward becoming an independant Netizen.

You will find, occasionally, that some people say mean things to you. While regrettable, this should not be unexepected. No longer will you remain safe and warm in the loving embrace of AOL's content control. Rather, you will experience the full range of human emotion, both positive and negative, and often directed at you.

Remain strong, however, and you will soon develop the thick skin needed for unchaperoned web surfing. In no time at all, you will shrug off the petty attacks of internet trolls and bullies; indeed, you will soon find yourself putting them into their place with such pithy comments as, "STFU", or "Dude, you suxors."

So go forth, young Padawan. You have much to learn, but there are many who would teach.

Regards,
The Internet

[goddess]

JAC, you need to STFU!
lol, im kidding :)

i'm not saying that these forums need to be sugar gumdrop land. fu<k that

all im saying is that we need to re-evaluate this place.

people shouldn't have to contemplate whether or not to post a deal or ask a question about a deal for fear of getting flogged.

there would be more posts and more people if this place was a more hospitable environment.

ffs, why rag on people who try to do all of us a favour by giving us a heads up about a deal? or asking a question that someone else might have too?

why crucify the poor guy who posts an mdg sale, or a question about the damn foot locker friends&family sale?

more hospitable environment = more people = more posts = MORE DEALS.

all you idiots with your smart-ass posts are doing everyone a disfavour.

/end rant!

[Zertz]

lolol. funny

I wish the lurkers would do less lurking and more posting.

and for world peace

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5793/taz20lurker9dd.gif

[cheeseshredder]

Agreed, honestly there are way too many *******s that act all high and mighty complaining that some posted deals suck, or aren't hot.

Going to end up driving people away from even posting deals with that kind of hostility. Unfortunately, those that do the flaming don't exactly contribute much themselves and probably won't care to take the advice posted in this thread.

[robattoronto]

If you ever got to meet some of these characters in real life, it'll become apparent why they post what they post.

They may be a 100lbs pimply faced teen in real life who would serve their virginity in a platter to whoever, but when you step into a forum, everyone becomes equals. You can say whatever you want without fear of getting your face pancaked. Hence the immature post and false bravado.

So you just gotta get with the program and take bitter with the sweet and not feed the trolls.

[bokep]

If you ever got to meet some of these characters in real life, it'll become apparent why they post what they post.

They may be a 100lbs pimply faced teen in real life who would serve their virginity in a platter to whoever, but when you step into a forum, everyone becomes equals. You can say whatever you want without fear of getting your face pancaked. Hence the immature post and false bravado.

So you just gotta get with the program and take bitter with the sweet and not feed the trolls.
The irony here is that it's people like you (who like look at themselves as superior as others) that usually end up creating an unpleasant environment by doing things such as name-calling; like what you did in your post.

[Cyber6]

Dear new user,

Welcome to the Internet. We realize that leaving AOL and venturing into the wild unknown of the World Wide Web is a little intimidating, but congratulations nonetheless on taking your first steps toward becoming an independant Netizen.

You will find, occasionally, that some people say mean things to you. While regrettable, this should not be unexepected. No longer will you remain safe and warm in the loving embrace of AOL's content control. Rather, you will experience the full range of human emotion, both positive and negative, and often directed at you.

Remain strong, however, and you will soon develop the thick skin needed for unchaperoned web surfing. In no time at all, you will shrug off the petty attacks of internet trolls and bullies; indeed, you will soon find yourself putting them into their place with such pithy comments as, "STFU", or "Dude, you suxors."

So go forth, young Padawan. You have much to learn, but there are many who would teach.

Regards,
The Internet


+99999 ...




it shouldn't have to be that way!

it's sad seeing people with under 10 posts who try to contribute and get flamed to hell for something like posting in the wrong forum, or posting an mdg sale, lol

you never see these posters come back, and it's a shame.

retardedness!


I am sorry but anyone posting an MDG sale should be flamed to hell.. and if he/she doesn't come back.. is not a great loss.

Have a nice day,


C.

[ItemFinder]

If a waiting period could be implemented for new members, it would definitely be beneficial in my opinion. Requiring members to view threads for a predetermined time period or read rules before each posting (could be turned off with seniority), it would better reflect the rules in place. Most newbies now, sign-up, post a question and disappear. Others will post in the wrong section. I'm finding a lot that deals aren't really hot, but still get posted. Maybe a "cooking" deals could be posted and deals would voted up like in the Digg system. In that way, deals could be filtered for only hot ones or hot, mild and cold.

[bpopd]

+1

JAC, you need to STFU!
lol, im kidding :)

i'm not saying that these forums need to be sugar gumdrop land. fu<k that

all im saying is that we need to re-evaluate this place.

people shouldn't have to contemplate whether or not to post a deal or ask a question about a deal for fear of getting flogged.

there would be more posts and more people if this place was a more hospitable environment.

ffs, why rag on people who try to do all of us a favour by giving us a heads up about a deal? or asking a question that someone else might have too?

why crucify the poor guy who posts an mdg sale, or a question about the damn foot locker friends&family sale?

more hospitable environment = more people = more posts = MORE DEALS.

all you idiots with your smart-ass posts are doing everyone a disfavour.

/end rant!

[cheeseshredder]

If a waiting period could be implemented for new members, it would definitely be beneficial in my opinion. Requiring members to view threads for a predetermined time period or read rules before each posting (could be turned off with seniority), it would better reflect the rules in place. Most newbies now, sign-up, post a question and disappear. Others will post in the wrong section. I'm finding a lot that deals aren't really hot, but still get posted. Maybe a "cooking" deals could be posted and deals would voted up like in the Digg system. In that way, deals could be filtered for only hot ones or hot, mild and cold.

While that is a problem, there's a problem with people scaring off newbies who post legitimate/decent deals or try to post a deal that may not seem very hot to experienced deal hunters.

We need to discourage comments that give off the message "that deal sucked noob, it wasn't even worth a post, don't post again".

[majesus]

imo, people seem to bite everyone's heads off around here!!

Thank you for contributing.
sarcasm noted!
Lol, Call it human nature.

I agree, sometimes people are mean, and I do feel bad for the newbie who tries to contribute into the Hot deal only to find out others didn't think so.

[goddess]

lots of excellent comments!
i really like the discussion that this thread is generating.

i do hope the mods decide to get involved in the discussion as well. i would love to hear their input.

;)

[CHINAdeals]

If a waiting period could be implemented for new members, it would definitely be beneficial in my opinion. Requiring members to view threads for a predetermined time period or read rules before each posting (could be turned off with seniority), it would better reflect the rules in place. Most newbies now, sign-up, post a question and disappear. Others will post in the wrong section. I'm finding a lot that deals aren't really hot, but still get posted. Maybe a "cooking" deals could be posted and deals would voted up like in the Digg system. In that way, deals could be filtered for only hot ones or hot, mild and cold.

trade off:

maybe better/more educated users

vS.

lose out on some deals that ppl wanna post asap.


i'll vote for the former though. ..need a way to 'track' ppl viewing threads etc.

like go through a 'tutorial (view 3 hot deal threads..1 off topic etc.. or wtvr)

[kleptodathief]

any pix of goddess? :D just a luvly nick ;)

[Dangaizer3]

flame away if you want. i've got my flame suit on ;)

First off, that sounds HOT!

all you idiots with your smart-ass posts are doing everyone a disfavour
Secondly. Comments like this are sure to have people coming back for more as it isnt hostile at all.

Last but not least...

I feel although sometimes pepole may be a bit harsh/mean, they are doing what they do out of the goodness of their hearts to educate the less educated on what is right/wrong. If you dont agree with their comments and shy away and never come back that is your own fault for not realizing what their intentions are. But on the other hand people are just mean to be mean. So you just need to tough it out, and not take things so offensively.

If you stole something and were never told it was wrong or were never punished, you would keep doing it, and someone else would lose out. Now once you get punished once or twice you start to learn what your mistakes were and hopefully LEARN and not do the same thing again.

btw, RFD IS GREAT!

[mallvibes]

RFD is a big site with over 100k members.

if you consider this fact, the amount of hostility is probably only a very small percentage of the entire RFD member population.

:lol:

[N_Raged]

goddess if you don't like the hostility then avoid the off-topic forum.

[Narci]

I think most people who are new to forums need to do a little reading before posting. There should be a bible to navigating through any forum.

#1 use the 'SEARCH' function on a forum before asking a question.

#2 use Google to find an answer before posting a non-descript question on a forum.

#3 if your going to be giving advice, try to back that up with some evidence. i.e. links to laws that show driving over 50km/hr is bad.

#4 did I mention the 'SEARCH' function?

#5 read the stickies! It's a sticky for a reason.

#6 spellcheck (yeah i've been guilty many times for this too)

#7 include in your profile your general location. Posting a question about a new law or something without exactly giving your general location is like posting 'what time is it?' on a forum.

#8 use the 'SEARCH' function.

#9 use a little common sense and respect when posting. Just because your hiding behind a computer doesn't mean you can treat other people like trash. Your not going to WIN at the internet.

#10 using private messaging can do wonders.

#11 you are not always right.

[robattoronto]

Lol. I'd suggest you to check my posting history in the past few years before you paint me with the same brush. I usually refrain from those kind of stuff. I felt that this thread warranted tone of my comment and it was in context.

As for feeling superior, its unintended and I'd say its something you read into my posting.

The irony here is that it's people like you (who like look at themselves as superior as others) that usually end up creating an unpleasant environment by doing things such as name-calling; like what you did in your post.

[billdozer]

i do hope the mods decide to get involved in the discussion as well. i would love to hear their input.



If you can't take the heat, get out of the nuclear reactor.

Or as somebody mentioned earlier, stay away from OT.

[goddess]

Comments like this are sure to have people coming back for more as it isnt hostile at all.



That was not directed towards any member in particular. I believe you're taking it out of context...



I feel although sometimes pepole may be a bit harsh/mean, they are doing what they do out of the goodness of their hearts to educate the less educated on what is right/wrong. If you dont agree with their comments and shy away and never come back that is your own fault for not realizing what their intentions are. But on the other hand people are just mean to be mean. So you just need to tough it out, and not take things so offensively.

If you stole something and were never told it was wrong or were never punished, you would keep doing it, and someone else would lose out. Now once you get punished once or twice you start to learn what your mistakes were and hopefully LEARN and not do the same thing again.



There is a blatant difference between EXPLAINING to someone that mgd sales (for example) are not what they seem,
and FLAMING the $hit out of them for somehow not knowing better.

Odds are the only thing that person will LEARN is to avoid this place instead of coming back to post new deals, because of some idiot's smart-ass remarks..all in the name of schooling the newb, huh?

And what good is that?

[goddess]

If you can't take the heat, get out of the nuclear reactor.

Or as somebody mentioned earlier, stay away from OT.

OT as in the off topic forums?

I never once mentioned the off topic forums. The OT forums are alive with lots of different and wonderful opinions. I understand that it can get heated in there. That's cool.

This thread is in response to the hostility that is very apparent in the HOT DEALS forums.

My whole point here is that rfd'ers will be DISCOURAGED FROM POSTING DEALS and asking questions about deals because of all of the damn FLAMING and HOSTILITY.

IN CONCLUSION (lol):

more hospitable environment = more people = more posts = MORE DEALS!

makes sense, non?

[goddess]

These aren't isolated incidents that I'm talking about here. It seems to be commonplace.

If someone does us a FAVOUR by bringing a deal to our attention, why the fu<k should that person's head get bitten off?
Looking a gift horse in the mouth, aren't we?

Sure, tell 'em that the deal is warm, tell them that the deal is cold, tell them that you don't like the product
...but why belittle and flame?

Who the fu<k cares if buddy can't spell or has never used a search function in his life, or doesn't know that his question was answered on page 12 and again on page 56, or that his deal was posted 5 days ago.. he will learn if we give him a chance..and one day he'll reward us with a kick-ass deal..

Why should people feel anxious or apologetic about asking questions?
"before I post I try to make sure I have all my bases covered otherwise a flame war erupts over nothing."
"hopefully my head doesn't get bitten off for this question..."
Why the hell should this be tolerated?

I'm really surprised that the mods & admin don't want to weigh in on the discussion..

Anyhoo, I think I'm done repeating myself here..

Thanks for lending your ears... (eyes?)

Comments & input welcome.

Cheers,
goddess.

[cheeseshredder]

Agreed, there have been several occasions in the past where new members who made an honest mistake have left for good due to the hostility of SOME of the members on this forum.

This kind of behaviour needs to be discouraged, besides... if people get scared off, we're only left with lurkers who don't contribute and only leech. The wrong group is being scared off. :lol:

[goddess]

Agreed, there have been several occasions in the past where new members who made an honest mistake have left for good due to the hostility of SOME of the members on this forum.

This kind of behaviour needs to be discouraged, besides... if people get scared off, we're only left with lurkers who don't contribute and only leech. The wrong group is being scared off. :lol:

indeed!
*mwah* <3

[Dangaizer3]

That was not directed towards any member in particular. I believe you're taking it out of context...



There is a blatant difference between EXPLAINING to someone that mgd sales (for example) are not what they seem,
and FLAMING the $hit out of them for somehow not knowing better.

Odds are the only thing that person will LEARN is to avoid this place instead of coming back to post new deals, because of some idiot's smart-ass remarks..all in the name of schooling the newb, huh?

And what good is that?

TBH you're talking about hostility and flaming... Whether or not your comment was directed at a particular member or not, what you said is still offensive to some. Practice what you preach.

You're right, there are some people who go to a certain extent with their replies and really do FLAME the $hit out of someone, but reallly c'mon... life itself is harsh, if you can't take some stranger name calling over the internet in virtual type than maybe you need to re-evaluate. Remember that childhood rhyme we all learned... "sticks and stones will break my bones but..."


IN CONCLUSION (lol):

more hospitable environment = more people = more posts = MORE DEALS!

makes sense, non?

I agree, but I disagree :|

More posts doesnt always equate to more deals. More/most "hot" deals only come from experienced members/shoppers who post. If you would like to have less hostility in the "hot deals" forum maybe you should push to change the forum title to just plain "deals forum" that way it would be ok to post any sort of deal.


Who the fu<k cares if buddy can't spell or has never used a search function in his life, or doesn't know that his question was answered on page 12 and again on page 56, or that his deal was posted 5 days ago.. he will learn if we give him a chance..and one day he'll reward us with a kick-ass deal...

Or maybe they will just keep leeching and do the same thing over and over and over.

*I feel people on RFD genuinely want to help others, but noone wants to baby someone and cycle through their $hit. I think people expect someone to do a little research and/or learn for themselves before asking/posting, this way it shows that person has tried, failed and is now seeking help. (sorry, that's out of context)

Proper grammar and spelling is just courtesy to someone reading your post, these sorts of things should be pointed out if it bothers the reader ;)

But in the end, I suppose you're right, some people just go too far, and it does scare some users who possibly in the future may have contributed alot for all of us here on RFD.

Im thankful though that we have so many other great members here who just keep giving!

[Fabulaz]

There is an immense amount of idiocy sometimes on RFD.

Idiocy calls for punishment.


*I feel people on RFD genuinely want to help others, but noone wants to baby someone and cycle through their $hit. I think people expect someone to do a little research and/or learn for themselves before asking/posting, this way it shows that person has tried, failed and is now seeking help. (sorry, that's out of context)

Proper grammar and spelling is just courtesy to someone reading your post, these sorts of things should be pointed out if it bothers the reader ;)

Exactly. On so many occasions have the same question popped up on a million different threads.

And then there are the people who tlk liek dis cuz it savz o so muhc tim n cnt b botherd 2 pnctueat n xpect ppl to anser der qs n den dey git al mad cuz no1 wnts 2 anser sch a dum qestion.

[esoxlee]

There are LOTS of AWESOME posters around here, and lots have given me great advice on future purchases!

..and i love, love, love gettin' a good deal.

RFD is GREAT!

Just a makin' a suggestion to make it even better.



imo, people seem to bite everyone's heads off around here!!

*everyone has to apologize before they ask ask a question....

*apologize when they post a new thread that might have already been posted (even though they did a search that turned up nothing)...

*threads get locked, deleted, merged with out so much as a "thank you for contributing"...

*people get flamed to hell when they think they're posting a hot deal that might not be very hot (wtf?)...

what's with all the RFD negativity???

i think this place would get more activity and lots more deals would be posted if it was less of a hostile environment sometimes...

just my two cents!
flame away if you want. i've got my flame suit on ;)

xo,
goddess.


Just ignore those pricks. RFD still provides great info despite them.

[DaVibe]

Somebody tells me a deal has already been posted, I shrug it off and go "Okay great, thanks" thinking that there's more than one person looking out for this site.

Some deals I don't even post because I know others will and I'd rather have it that way ...

I really don't pay attention to all these people that have sarcastic or *****ty things to say about people trying to help the site.
One giant "Who Cares" belongs here.

[Spidey]

I get it all the time when I add to my "Things Ive Won" thread :cheesygri

[rubberband]

It also depends on a couple of things.

You'll probably find that people who talk crap when the new user in question was actually trying to make a useful contribution, did their research (in the case of posting a deal), etc are mostly morons, either new to the site or trying to raise their post count.

When people post stuff that's just plain annoying or unwanted, the more senior members come out of the woodwork. The speeding threads in the automotive forum, or posting of MDG deals is a good example. Stating "I drive a million mph all the time and I'm safe!" or (effectively) advertising for MDG when a simple search would produce page after page of horror stories is just ASKING for trouble. :)

[DaVibe]

I get it all the time when I add to my "Things Ive Won" thread :cheesygri

That's because that thread is a little OCD-prone :)

[Spidey]

That's because that thread is a little OCD-prone :)

Whats that :confused:

[sw1ft]

Whats that :confused:Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

[Spidey]

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

Ahh, thanks

[cheeseshredder]

Just because life is full of jackasses doesn't mean that it has no influence on whether or not people decide to leave the site/post deals. The fact is that some people WILL get offended and subsequently leave. The opinion that people should just suck it up and deal with the harshness of life doesn't change the fact that people will indeed get offended and therefore is irrelevant to the discussion.

More people posting = more deals overall = more hot deals. If people are discouraged from trying to post a deal in the first place, they'll never become "awesome veteran hot deal posters"... We'll just be left with more lurkers.

Have some kind of policy on no threadcrapping and using manners when somebody makes a repost or posts a cold deal. Simple solution. :confused:

[gordholio]

Welcome to life. There will always be rude people around and you have to let a lot of it just slide or else you may drop down to their level. :)