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Lonely Soldier Boy
Oct 24th, 2007, 02:38 PM
The 5% is because I used canned tomatoes instead of whole tomatoes. Anyone who lives in tokyo knows why :(

As a Muslim, I can't eat any pork/pig-related products. Rules are fairly similar to keeping Kosher - and this is generally an annoyance outside of certain small areas of Japan since most people aren't very careful about mixing pork with beef. (there was a criminal court case about this just a few days ago). As a result, I often do my own cooking, for better or worse.

As I have said all-too-often, Japanese pizzas are awful, terrible, et cetra. Olives are at a premium - and are my favourite ingredient to boot. As a result, I had to learn to make my own. Originally I used store-bought bread, but I took a chance a few days ago and made some flat bread of my own. I used the recipe here:

http://ifoods.blogspot.com/2007/03/easy-flat-breads.html

Very good starter on making bread.

http://www.ordisante.com/pics/handpizza/pizza-003.jpg

This bread is a bit sweet - great for dipping sauces but not ideal for pizza, as I would find out

http://www.ordisante.com/pics/handpizza/pizza-004.jpg

I greased the platter with a very small amount of extra-virgin olive oil and took the bread (which I had flattened beforehand) and spread it across this. On top I added some homemade tomato sauce (basically - fry onions and ginger, add whole tomatoes, crush in pot, add thyme and blend together after simmering for a few minutes, add some spices and then simmer for 1 hour), and various vegetables. I tried going for a little geometry here, I normally don't bother.

http://www.ordisante.com/pics/handpizza/pizza-007.jpg

I added tomatoes, green peppers, paprika, mushrooms, green olives, pepper, pepper, onions and cheese. I have Halal (which is to say Islamic Kosher) chicken that I could have used. (Usually when I do, I soak it in pepper and lemon juice after defrosting/skinning and chopping into cubes).

I put this in the oven for about 20 minutes at 220 degrees (Celcius, about 430 F). The pizza top was ready before the bread itself - the bread took about 5 minutes extra. In the future I would probably just bake the bread first for a bit and then add the toppings before continuing.

End result:

http://www.ordisante.com/pics/handpizza/pizza-011.jpg

The pizza was good, but not great. In short, it was not spicy enough and the bread was too sweet. I wish I had used Chicken in retrospect, it would have added some much needed flavour. Instead of using chilli powder in the tomato sauce I should have used jalapeno powder - it would have been tastier as a result. The cheese was also let-down - I should have gone with pure mozzarella, but it is not really available readily in Japan in quantities that I can use on Pizza. The bread in the crust just didn't have the right taste to go with the toppings - in the future I will put some crushed sesame seeds or pepper/olives directly into the crust while preparing it.

thelefteyeguy
Oct 24th, 2007, 03:34 PM
that looks like lots of cleanup...looks great tho

do they sell rising crust pizza in toyko? cause it's 8$ (retail) ...too much work for me to make it from scratch

TenzoR
Oct 24th, 2007, 03:42 PM
that looks like lots of cleanup...looks great tho

do they sell rising crust pizza in toyko? cause it's 8$ (retail) ...too much work for me to make it from scratch

But homemade pizza taste so much better and you can add a lot more toppings to it :D

Lonely Soldier Boy
Oct 24th, 2007, 06:11 PM
that looks like lots of cleanup...looks great tho

do they sell rising crust pizza in toyko? cause it's 8$ (retail) ...too much work for me to make it from scratch

They do - but due to my dietary restrictions I afford buying them. Often times there is weird stuff in it, and they rarely offer vegetarian pizzas. (Confuses me, as this is a Buddhist/Shintoist country after all).

deep
Oct 24th, 2007, 06:21 PM
Great looking pizza, especially considering the crap that passes for pie in Tokyo. I hope things have changed drastically, as pizza in Japan was a seafoody, corny mess.

Good work! (And nice stove, for Japan too....I would have killed for a convection oven!)

kuqdew
Oct 24th, 2007, 08:14 PM
Your from japan?

Siefer999
Oct 24th, 2007, 09:12 PM
Your from japan?
i think he is just living there for now.

bembol
Oct 24th, 2007, 09:26 PM
Looks great, enjoy!

ItemFinder
Oct 24th, 2007, 09:33 PM
Did you grow the peppers yourself? Did you raise a cow, milk it and coagulate it to make cheese? If not, then it's less than 95%.

Jokez Guy
Oct 24th, 2007, 09:35 PM
looooks prety tasty!

Brandon
Oct 24th, 2007, 09:57 PM
But homemade pizza taste so much better and you can add a lot more toppings to it :D

I normally add more cheese, spices and toppings to frozen pizzas. That way it's much easier with little cleanup, plus you get the benefit of more toppings!

yao416
Oct 24th, 2007, 10:34 PM
mmmm makes me hungryyy

Cacti
Oct 24th, 2007, 10:47 PM
Would be perfect if you left it in the oven for another 5 - 10 minutes.

Lonely Soldier Boy
Oct 24th, 2007, 10:57 PM
Would be perfect if you left it in the oven for another 5 - 10 minutes.

Actually the final pizza you see is not the final one - it was left in the oven another 10 minutes. I will put up another picture later I guess, when I find the time.

Thank you all for your kind comments and suggestions :cheesygri

almostfreeman
Oct 25th, 2007, 12:13 AM
The 5% is because I used canned tomatoes instead of whole tomatoes. Anyone who lives in tokyo knows why :(

Ok, I don't live in Tokyo. I'm curious, what's the secret about fresh tomatoes there? They are $50 bucks a piece?

Lonely Soldier Boy
Oct 25th, 2007, 12:50 AM
Ok, I don't live in Tokyo. I'm curious, what's the secret about fresh tomatoes there? They are $50 bucks a piece?

Nah, more like $1/piece for medium sized ones. But a can of 6 tomatoes comes for about $2 - a huge price difference.

nsr250
Oct 25th, 2007, 02:28 AM
Looks good, although I would've used Oregano just to get that actual pizza flavor.

Lonely Soldier Boy
Oct 25th, 2007, 09:15 AM
Looks good, although I would've used Oregano just to get that actual pizza flavor.

I actually have oregano, I just have never used it! You suggest putting it in the sauce?

deep
Oct 25th, 2007, 09:40 AM
I actually have oregano, I just have never used it! You suggest putting it in the sauce?
You can put it in the sauce, or sprinkle it right over the whole 'za right before you bake it. Oregano is KEY to pizza flava!!!

Lonely Soldier Boy
Oct 25th, 2007, 10:00 AM
You can put it in the sauce, or sprinkle it right over the whole 'za right before you bake it. Oregano is KEY to pizza flava!!!

:cheesygri Thank you for informing my sorry ass. I am going to try that right now.

nsr250
Oct 25th, 2007, 11:19 AM
I actually have oregano, I just have never used it! You suggest putting it in the sauce?

Like deep said, you can sprinkle it on top or in the sauce, my personal preference is when you're making the sauce dump a bunch of oregano in it while its simmering, I usually make my sauce with olive oil, tomato paste, canned tomatos, clove of garlic and oregano.

Lonely Soldier Boy
Oct 25th, 2007, 11:35 AM
Like deep said, you can sprinkle it on top or in the sauce, my personal preference is when you're making the sauce dump a bunch of oregano in it while its simmering, I usually make my sauce with olive oil, tomato paste, canned tomatos, clove of garlic and oregano.

I am eating it right now and you are right - much better with oregano. Thank you!!

Emancipated
Oct 25th, 2007, 08:05 PM
Did you grow the peppers yourself? Did you raise a cow, milk it and coagulate it to make cheese? If not, then it's less than 95%.

There's always one in every thread.
:D

Looks great. 100x better than what you can get in the frozen section of your grocers. I mean this when I say this; I love your sense of adventure! I'm very envious of you, Lonely_soldier_boy. Everytime I read something about you, it's like stuff I'd give my left nut to live through; not just vicariously.

tet8suo
Oct 25th, 2007, 10:32 PM
I normally add more cheese, spices and toppings to frozen pizzas. That way it's much easier with little cleanup, plus you get the benefit of more toppings!
I do the same thing, and add more tomato and pasta sauce.

gordholio
Oct 26th, 2007, 09:26 AM
But homemade pizza taste so much better and you can add a lot more toppings to it :D

Yeah, homemade tastes great! Some pizza places are pretty good though, if you don't have the time to make one.
My folks used to make pizza when I was young (me too) and we'd buy the made crust and various tomato sauce and cheese (grate it yourself - much cheaper) and all the veggies.
When I order a pizza, I ask for thin crust and light on the tomato sauce.

mart242
Oct 26th, 2007, 09:32 AM
we'd buy the made crust and various tomato sauce and cheese (grate it yourself - much cheaper) and all the veggies..

Not only is grating the cheese yourself cheaper, it's also better! The pre-grated one is "dipped' in corn-starch (or something like that) so that it doesn't stick and end up in a clump. It makes it feel dry when cooked. Never buy that crap.

Lonely Soldier Boy
Oct 26th, 2007, 04:34 PM
There's always one in every thread.
:D

Looks great. 100x better than what you can get in the frozen section of your grocers. I mean this when I say this; I love your sense of adventure! I'm very envious of you, Lonely_soldier_boy. Everytime I read something about you, it's like stuff I'd give my left nut to live through; not just vicariously.

Thank you for your kind comments, honestly it made my day!! And if you ever do end up in Tokyo you are welcome to look me up - I'll be happy to show you around =)

Yeah, homemade tastes great! Some pizza places are pretty good though, if you don't have the time to make one.
My folks used to make pizza when I was young (me too) and we'd buy the made crust and various tomato sauce and cheese (grate it yourself - much cheaper) and all the veggies.
When I order a pizza, I ask for thin crust and light on the tomato sauce.

It is the weirdest thing, in Japan ungrated mozzarella is 70 cents for 10 grams. Considering I use about 100 grams of cheese for a pizza, it would become (by far) the most expensive part of the pizza.

Instead, I use the pre-grated mix cheese. It is about $1.15 for 100 grams (still expensive), but it is edible. For the record, I would prefer grating the cheese myself.

Another weird thing - precut olives are cheaper here than the real thing. I don't get that. (I sometimes find arab stores with full olives, with the seed in them - those are usually cheaper, but wow that takes a long time to cut..)

-edit- Oh and speaking of cheaper, homemade pizza costs about 25% what it costs to eat it outside. Not convinced?

Tomato Sauce: 2 Tomato cans, 1 onion, 1/4 garlic, some garam masalla ($2 + 0.30 + 0.05 + 0.05 = $2.40). This is enough for 10 pizzas, so let's say $0.24

Crust: Cost me about 8 dollars for enough dough to make 3 or 4 of those giant pizza crusts. $2.
Tomatoes: $2
Mushrooms: $1
Olives: $.60
Cheese: $1.20
Green Peppers: $.40
Paparika: 0.80
Assorted spices: 0.25-0.30 (overly conservative but whatever)

= $8.54. A similar pizza, at Pizza Hut in Japan, would cost at least $20. I could add chicken to this for about $1 more.

- edit - whoops, forgot an extra onion. Make it $8.84.

Now I'm thinking about opening a restaurant, lol.

Xtahse
Oct 26th, 2007, 09:24 PM
too veggie-ish for me..

but yeah looks pretty good