View Full Version : Which CFL bulb is best?
Streamrider
Oct 21st, 2007, 08:50 PM
I am not getting much product life out of the Luminus CFL bulbs that I bought at Costco. I bought the 13W=60W ones and I am only getting a year or so of use (about a half dozen have failed so far) before they stop working, not the 5 to 7 years promised. Is there a brand of CFL bulbs that others find to be more reliable?
As a side note, the new bulbs do not seem to be nearly as reliable as the older style Flurescent bulbs - got a couple going about 10 years or so now.
weedb0y
Oct 21st, 2007, 09:21 PM
The ones I had bought from IKEA are still goin after 3 yrs or so.
Dollar store ones crap out alot earlier from my own experience.
mau108
Oct 21st, 2007, 09:42 PM
I buy philips. The color output on them are very close to incandescent (I'd say better then incandescents )
Pricing wise they are pretty decent, I bought 2 sets, 1 was 13w and other was 15w.
15w had a bit more light output but the 13w's are perfect.
Switch my entire house over to florescent and ordered 3 60led focus bulbs.
Going green, saving $$$!
gordholio
Oct 22nd, 2007, 12:43 AM
I got my lights (11 watts) from Dollarama over 2 years ago and none of them have crapped out yet.
granite_grrl
Oct 22nd, 2007, 10:18 AM
Another question: where do you get your best bang for your buck? I was going to get some 11W ones from Ikea yesterday, but they only came in two packs and I couldn't help wonder if I wouldn't get them cheaper somewhere (as well as something a little brighter than what you'd get from 11W).
astroboi
Oct 22nd, 2007, 10:51 AM
My vote goes to the Philips Marathon bulbs. Long lasting, virtually instant-on, and reasonably priced. Make sure you take advantage of these coupons: http://www.everykilowattcounts.com/HTML/InMarket/EKC/coupons.shtml.
One reason why your bulbs could be burning out too fast is that they are being turned on for very short durations. In any case, the Philips should last you longer (I've had both brands).
nogoro
Oct 22nd, 2007, 11:52 AM
when are LED screw-in bulbs going to be sold in the mainstream?? The only one at B&M stores is that party light that changes colours :mad:
I haven't had any trouble with any brand of CFL, luminus, globe, philips etc... haven't bought from dollar stores yet though.
ghostryder
Oct 22nd, 2007, 12:10 PM
I've always been disappointed by "cheap" brands.
Of the name brand stuff the shortest life I have had was a GE (6yrs) and the longest a GE(13yrs). I currently have a mix of GE & Phillips that are anywhere from 2-5 yrs old.
I do kind of like the Phillips 15w over the GE 13w now, but that may be because I have no south facing windows now. The old house had lots of south windows.
Spidey
Oct 22nd, 2007, 12:16 PM
Ive bought Ikea, Noma from CT and some Philips here and there. All seem to be lasting.
Just moved into a new house with tons of lights, am definitly going around and changing my bulbs
Streamrider
Oct 22nd, 2007, 10:49 PM
Thank you for all your responses. Looks like I will give the Phillips ones a try next.
Wiseman
Oct 23rd, 2007, 04:15 PM
I've only had one bulb burn out on me, a pur-lite from Canadian Tire. It was installed in a bathroom, so I'm not sure if the humidity shortened its life. No issues with any other brands, ikea, globe, dollar store. My oldest ikea bulbs just won't die.. almost 5 years and still going.
Eldorado
Oct 30th, 2007, 04:50 PM
Wondering if those that buy the Philips CFL's from HD can comment on the difference between the 'Daylight' and the other regular ones?
The Daylights are in the blue packaging, the others in the green.. what are the color of the light they give off? Is one comparable to a soft white?
mau108
Oct 30th, 2007, 09:48 PM
Wondering if those that buy the Philips CFL's from HD can comment on the difference between the 'Daylight' and the other regular ones?
The Daylights are in the blue packaging, the others in the green.. what are the color of the light they give off? Is one comparable to a soft white?
if i remember correctly the blue packaging one is 6000k (very blueish light which is too painful for inside the home use, I have one in my garage and on cool starts its pretty darn blue), the green packaging is I believe 2700k and provides close to incandescent type of color with a bit more output.
go with the greens.
gordholio
Oct 31st, 2007, 09:11 AM
I like the Argonauts CFL bulb the best. :D
sunnybono
Oct 31st, 2007, 09:32 AM
I installed the ones from HD, I beleive they're made by phillps. After 3 years, still going strong!!!!
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st7860
Oct 31st, 2007, 12:43 PM
i have both the blue phillips(daylight ones) and the regular phillips cfls
the blue ones are brighter and more white, i don't like the way the regular ones make everything look yellow
Eldorado
Nov 1st, 2007, 03:28 PM
i have both the blue phillips(daylight ones) and the regular phillips cfls
the blue ones are brighter and more white, i don't like the way the regular ones make everything look yellow
Thanks, I think I'll go with the Daylight ones.. I like a cooler, white color rather than the yellow that the old bulbs give off
brunes
Nov 1st, 2007, 03:43 PM
Has anyone tried the Walmart brand ones yet?
Spidey
Nov 1st, 2007, 04:25 PM
Bought 3 Nomas from Canadian Tire last night on sale. About $5.50 I think. 13W ones. Put them in my sons ceiling fan as he is the king for leaving lights on. Same amount of brightness and colour as the 60W that were in there
Ive got a few Nomas in my house and never had a problem so far
weedb0y
Nov 1st, 2007, 04:31 PM
Walmart has lots of coupons available boys and girls!
Spidey
Nov 1st, 2007, 04:32 PM
Walmart has lots of coupons available boys and girls!
Instore. Anything online posted
weedb0y
Nov 1st, 2007, 04:32 PM
Has anyone tried the Walmart brand ones yet?
Yup, worked out fine. We got the 22W = 100W ones, Super bright.
Justin
Nov 1st, 2007, 10:51 PM
I am not getting much product life out of the Luminus CFL bulbs that I bought at Costco. I bought the 13W=60W ones and I am only getting a year or so of use (about a half dozen have failed so far) before they stop working, not the 5 to 7 years promised. Is there a brand of CFL bulbs that others find to be more reliable?
As a side note, the new bulbs do not seem to be nearly as reliable as the older style Flurescent bulbs - got a couple going about 10 years or so now.
They are crap. Bought the same ones two months ago and they are getting returned. Bought a six pack and 2 have already burned out.
st7860
Nov 1st, 2007, 10:54 PM
the phillips blue(daylight) AND green(yellow light) series both have 6 year warranties.
but the 'crap' ones from ikea/walmart/costco regardless of their shorter life, are usually far cheaper, so its all 'even in the end' economically.
artekds
Nov 30th, 2007, 08:26 PM
Philips and Dollorama CFL's are going strong after two years.
Nightwing
Dec 3rd, 2007, 05:37 PM
Has anyone tried the Walmart brand ones yet?
You mean the "Globe" ones? I'm using Globe exclusively and really like them. I have 2 that have been used outside (inside coach lights) exposed for 2 years to Winnipeg cold winters (-30 or colder) and they continue to work perfectly.:)
Prankster
Dec 3rd, 2007, 06:07 PM
I am totaly amazed by the light ouput of the 15w Phiilips Marathon Daylight mini twistees, switching the whole house over to them!
Thanh
Dec 7th, 2007, 10:23 AM
I got my lights (11 watts) from Dollarama over 2 years ago and none of them have crapped out yet.
I've purchased many (5-6) "Sunbeam" branded CFL's from Dollarama and they all died within a year. On the other hand, I got Sylvania's & GE's that have been going strong for over 6 years.
mrfrostyman
Dec 7th, 2007, 11:59 AM
i have the 23 watt ones installed in my bedroom(super bright), and i have one in my work out room. Alot brighter then the old 60w that were in there before, but of course the 23 ones were supposed to be equal to the 100w bulbs. Anyways no complaints thus far, and the nice case is always handy for various things...
UrbanPoet
Dec 21st, 2007, 11:42 PM
i have the 23 watt ones installed in my bedroom(super bright), and i have one in my work out room. Alot brighter then the old 60w that were in there before, but of course the 23 ones were supposed to be equal to the 100w bulbs. Anyways no complaints thus far, and the nice case is always handy for various things...
im rolling on a 26watt bulb. That thing is amazing. ITs sooooo BRIGHT!
$12.99 @ CT.
rilles
Jan 4th, 2008, 12:37 PM
A couple of years ago, the CFL's I bought had a 1/5 death rate within 6 months. Recently all I new ones I purchased have not died. I prefer the Noma's from CDN tire because they are instant on, instant bright. The HD lights take about a minute to reach full brightness.
st7860
Jan 4th, 2008, 12:44 PM
phillips makes the best CFLs.
mtl4
Jan 4th, 2008, 02:57 PM
The biggest issue for me on the CFL bulbs was color temperature. The higher the color temp the more blue the light will be and the lower the temp, the more red the light will appear. For me the best bulbs are either Osram Sylvania (which I have everywhere in my house) or Philips but I only use them in the 3000K light temp vs the far more common 2700K which are typically what you get from most other brands (Noma, Globe, GE, etc). I have tried the 4000K and 4100K temps but they make skin look pasty indoors and remind me more of a hospital. The 2700K light temp was way too orange for my taste and really didn't look like normal light to me at all.
I found the 3000K is best for my tastes and they seem to have a warmer feel (which is nice in winter) and tend to make people look healthier indoors. The light on the Sylvanias may have a slight pink color to it until the bulb has fully warmed up, then it looks very much like normal white light to me (maybe I've just gotten used to the light since we have it throughout the house except bathrooms and any switches with dimmers like the diningroom). Sylvania also makes an R30 version which works great in pot lights and I have 10 down in my 15 x 30 ft main room in my basement and let me tell you that is BRIGHT with them all on (it used to feel like a dungeon before with standard lights and used 4x the wattage. Some have mentioned they don't like the color and prefer the more orange 2700K but it's definately a subjective area to say the least since each person will percieve the color in a different way. I'd urge people to try both and see what works best for you since both Philips and Sylvania brands are good. If you want the Sylvanias, I get them at Home Hardware or at Lowes down in the US.
R30 size:
http://www.amazon.com/SYLVANIA-Compact-Fluorescent-integral-ballast/dp/B000KKSQC4
JAC
Jan 4th, 2008, 09:19 PM
Philips green +1
Globe -1. Actually, anything by Globe sucks bollocks.
TTony
Jan 5th, 2008, 12:29 AM
phillips
itsyours
Jan 5th, 2008, 04:06 PM
I am not getting much product life out of the Luminus CFL bulbs that I bought at Costco. I bought the 13W=60W ones and I am only getting a year or so of use (about a half dozen have failed so far) before they stop working, not the 5 to 7 years promised. Is there a brand of CFL bulbs that others find to be more reliable?
As a side note, the new bulbs do not seem to be nearly as reliable as the older style Flurescent bulbs - got a couple going about 10 years or so now.
Yeah, I bought the Costco Luminus bulbs too. They died within a few month. I won't buy anything with that brand again.
itsyours
Jan 5th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Btw, which store has good price on the Phillips daylight CFL bulbs? (Home depot?)
Thanks.
kaitoe
Jan 5th, 2008, 05:41 PM
Daylight (rated lightbulbs) are at 6500K which is the colour temperature of actual daylight, meaning that 6500K lightbulbs produce actual neutral/white light.
mtl4
Jan 6th, 2008, 05:24 PM
Daylight (rated lightbulbs) are at 6500K which is the colour temperature of actual daylight, meaning that 6500K lightbulbs produce actual neutral/white light.
While it may be the same color temp as daylight, it won't look like daylight because the CRI index is still only 82 for most CFL bulbs so don't expect it to look like actual daylight. I saw those bulbs on display in HD the other day and they were very blue IMHO.
kaitoe
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:50 PM
While it may be the same color temp as daylight, it won't look like daylight because the CRI index is still only 82 for most CFL bulbs so don't expect it to look like actual daylight. I saw those bulbs on display in HD the other day and they were very blue IMHO.
Yes, that's true. But sometimes if your eyes are adjusted to a room that has incandescent lighting, the CFL at 6500K will look blue because the eyes think that the the colour the incandescent light produces is white light.
This happened to me in a room with pink light. My eyes adjusted to make the pink light look neutral, but I thought it was the light that turned a "neutral colour", and when I stepped out into daylight, it was all green.
mtl4
Jan 8th, 2008, 04:04 PM
I was looking at them lit up in a Home Depot store so it was pretty well lit in general. White light is made up of a whole bunch of colors combined and daylight has certain peaks to it which give it the overall average color temp of 6500K but the problem is that the CFL bulb's color peaks and the natural daylight's color peaks are different and I guess my vision picks up on that. The other issue of natural light is the intensity of sunlight since you don't get to see the light at lower amplitudes as you would with a CFL.
These graphs might help people understand and compare the different light temps:
http://www.nuvosurgical.com/technology/images/fig5.gif
http://yaleappliance.com/blog_pics/colortempchartorig.jpg
Daylight wavelength peaks:
http://www.salsburg.com/lightcolor/daylight.jpg
Incandescent
http://www.salsburg.com/lightcolor/incandescent.jpg
You can see here why a "white" LED often looks blue to the eye:
http://www.mvlc.info/images/photos/led/spectral3.jpg
I hope this is helpful and doesn't just loose people in the technical mumbo-jumbo.
Black Rose
Feb 27th, 2008, 05:07 PM
Yeah, I bought the Costco Luminus bulbs too. They died within a few month. I won't buy anything with that brand again.
That is odd. I've had the opposite experience.
The Luminus bulbs I bought at Costco are still going strong almost 2 years later - I have 3 of them in outdoor lamps as well. The Noma brand ones I got at Canadian Tire are also very good.
The only duds are the ones I got at Ikea.
1yellowdog
Mar 1st, 2008, 06:53 PM
Here's an interesting article I found, it's from an American publication though,
http://www.dominomag.com/resources/2008/02/eco_lightbulbs?slide=1
Also, there is a new LED bulb called Suns Dusk that sounds interesting,
http://www.ccrane.com/lights/led-light-bulbs/suns-dusk-led-accent-light-bulb.aspx
CodecX81
Mar 2nd, 2008, 09:21 AM
My vote goes to the Philips Marathon bulbs. Long lasting, virtually instant-on, and reasonably priced. Make sure you take advantage of these coupons: http://www.everykilowattcounts.com/HTML/InMarket/EKC/coupons.shtml.
One reason why your bulbs could be burning out too fast is that they are being turned on for very short durations. In any case, the Philips should last you longer (I've had both brands).
+1 For Phillips Marathon. When CFL's were introduced a few years back, I got as many as I needed and I bring them with me wherever I move. (I'm kinda cheap so I keep all of the original bulbs I found in the apartment and put them back afterwards...)
I dislike the yellow glow of regular lightbulbs, so when I seen the Phillips Daylight bulbs, those were the ones I went after.
They are amazing. Beware though, they will not cover any spots you missed cleaning in your kitchen or bathroom ;)
Since I like really bright lighting, i purchased a lot of the bigger sized ones. (40watt? 100 watt regular replacements) and a few of the 15 watt? 60 watt replacements) for my smaller fixtures. Needless to say, it feels good to have decent lighting when its dark. I'd say that the way my kitchen is lit up at night vs how it looks in natural daylight.. its pretty close!
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