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UrbanPoet
Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:33 PM
MY local tim hortons still uses incadesecnt light bulbs.
Is there a way for me to suggest them to use energy saving CFL's?
Should i write to head office?

MkmBandit
Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:36 PM
You could try that, might be a start. Incandescent bulbs are no longer being sold, correct? Maybe Timmies is still getting them from a supplier

ephemera
Oct 3rd, 2007, 01:02 PM
It still bugs me that at the LCBO they have basically open fridges. What a massive waste of energy! They are trying to push paper bags on us and recycling wine bottles, but they really should put chilled wine/beer etc behind fridge doors like at a supermarket.

Frankie3s
Oct 3rd, 2007, 01:04 PM
MY local tim hortons still uses incadesecnt light bulbs.
Is there a way for me to suggest them to use energy saving CFL's?
Should i write to head office?

If you really are concerned, talk to the store manager and ask them to kindly consider changing them. If that doesn't help then address this matter with head office. Even the Burger King in our are are using CFL's! There's no excuse!

pipolchap
Oct 3rd, 2007, 01:30 PM
You could try that, might be a start. Incandescent bulbs are no longer being sold, correct? Maybe Timmies is still getting them from a supplier

What? I just bought 4 x 100W yesterday at cdn tire for 99 cents.

CHINAdeals
Oct 3rd, 2007, 02:55 PM
MY local tim hortons still uses incadesecnt light bulbs.
Is there a way for me to suggest them to use energy saving CFL's?
Should i write to head office?

good observation i'll check for this next time i'm out for fastfood etc.

joshmxpx
Oct 3rd, 2007, 03:13 PM
Lightbulbs aside, do you notice how every tim hortons you go into has the a/c cranked to at least 20 C cooler than it should be? You shouldn't have to plan on bringing a sweater every time you go there in the summer.

I make it a practice to find the thermostat in every timmies and crank the a/c to a much lower setting (if the controls are accessible). This is such a blatant waste of energy for such a large company...

grimplin
Oct 3rd, 2007, 04:15 PM
Tim Hortons biggest problem isn't the lightbulbs.

You can drive by my local Timmies (actually there are four of them) and 16 hours out of every day there are at least a copuple cars sitting there idling as they wait there way through the drivethrough. Talk about air pollution, when you think of all these drivethrough windows the added pollution must5 be immense.

It sounds like a math question out of highschool:

IF there are x amount of cars idling for 16 hours a day and each car realeses X amount of . . . . . .

Nikita
Oct 3rd, 2007, 04:25 PM
Tim Hortons biggest problem isn't the lightbulbs.

You can drive by my local Timmies (actually there are four of them) and 16 hours out of every day there are at least a copuple cars sitting there idling as they wait there way through the drivethrough. Talk about air pollution, when you think of all these drivethrough windows the added pollution must5 be immense.

It sounds like a math question out of highschool:

IF there are x amount of cars idling for 16 hours a day and each car realeses X amount of . . . . . .

How is Tim's any different than any drive-thru in this regard? Do you want to ban all drive-thrus?

CurryToa
Oct 3rd, 2007, 04:48 PM
i once work at tim hortons and i think drive-throu is really bad for the environment

Tim Hortons biggest problem isn't the lightbulbs.

You can drive by my local Timmies (actually there are four of them) and 16 hours out of every day there are at least a copuple cars sitting there idling as they wait there way through the drivethrough. Talk about air pollution, when you think of all these drivethrough windows the added pollution must5 be immense.

It sounds like a math question out of highschool:

IF there are x amount of cars idling for 16 hours a day and each car realeses X amount of . . . . . .

they should have like people giving out tickets XD

st7860
Oct 3rd, 2007, 07:17 PM
for those of you that don't already know, be _cautious_ when handling broken CFL bulbs, they emit dangerous chemicals.

broken incandascent bulbs don't emit anything.

brunes
Oct 3rd, 2007, 07:37 PM
for those of you that don't already know, be _cautious_ when handling broken CFL bulbs, they emit dangerous chemicals.

broken incandascent bulbs don't emit anything.

You're talking about mercury. And while of course it pays ot be cautious, the danger of the mercury in CFLs is a vasyly overblown boondoggle by the media, which frankly I believe someone pushing an agenda must be behind in some way by the amount of overblown outrageousness around it lately, such as this BS (http://wcbstv.com/seenat11/local_story_270215032.html), "While Trying To Save Environment, You Could Hurt Environment". Give me a break.

The amount of mercury in a CFL is 1/5 the amount of mercury in the watch on your wrist (in the battery). Never mind the dozens of other places in your house where there is way more mercury, like perhaps in your tooth fillings!

http://www.oee.nrcan.gc.ca/energystar/english/consumers/questions-answers.cfm#mercury

Not only that - but because of the amount of coal that goes unburned, every CFL you use puts about 20% less mercury pollution into the environment than using an incandescent. This is because burning coal releases mercury into the atmosphere.

1ply
Oct 3rd, 2007, 08:42 PM
I would ban all drive thrus. A lot of the time it would be quicker to walk in than be the 15th person in line in a car. The amount of idling at fast food places, banks, dry cleaners across the country must be tremendous.

Ah hell, just raise the gas taxes to $1/L. Average price will be $1.,75 and that will encourage more people to park their cars (especially the escalades)

jason9945
Oct 3rd, 2007, 11:25 PM
How is Tim's any different than any drive-thru in this regard? Do you want to ban all drive-thrus?

Because theirs are often packed... Most other ones have a WAY smaller peak time. Make sense?

ullyeus
Oct 4th, 2007, 11:34 PM
Because theirs are often packed... Most other ones have a WAY smaller peak time. Make sense?

no

sears_sucks
Oct 5th, 2007, 01:21 AM
Because theirs are often packed... Most other ones have a WAY smaller peak time. Make sense?

Maybe if people stopped ordering chili/sandwich combos at the drivethru instead of just a coffee or donut, there wouldn't be so much idling. I digress, off-topic. CFL's are the future.

Azxster
Oct 8th, 2007, 01:16 PM
Land border crossing is worst than drive through

IronMac
Oct 9th, 2007, 07:06 AM
For those who believe in fiddling around with other people's environmental controls, don't. How would you like it if some "vigilante" were to come in and fool around with your temp settings?

If you don't like what a business is doing, then, tell them or take your business elsewhere.

KorruptioN
Oct 9th, 2007, 09:21 AM
Did you ask them if they were using Venti-sized lightbulbs?

edit: They're not required to change over...

st7860
Oct 9th, 2007, 10:25 AM
Lightbulbs aside, do you notice how every tim hortons you go into has the a/c cranked to at least 20 C cooler than it should be? You shouldn't have to plan on bringing a sweater every time you go there in the summer.

I make it a practice to find the thermostat in every timmies and crank the a/c to a much lower setting (if the controls are accessible). This is such a blatant waste of energy for such a large company...

I do this too at some restaurants, but some of them have boxes over the thermostat, lol

gordholio
Oct 11th, 2007, 04:46 AM
Tim Hortons biggest problem isn't the lightbulbs.

You can drive by my local Timmies (actually there are four of them) and 16 hours out of every day there are at least a copuple cars sitting there idling as they wait there way through the drivethrough. Talk about air pollution, when you think of all these drivethrough windows the added pollution must5 be immense.

It sounds like a math question out of highschool:

IF there are x amount of cars idling for 16 hours a day and each car realeses X amount of . . . . . .

If I'm stuck in one spot for more than a few seconds in a drive thru, I turn the ignition off and restart when the line gets moving.

beerbaron105
Oct 11th, 2007, 08:06 AM
I would ban all drive thrus. A lot of the time it would be quicker to walk in than be the 15th person in line in a car. The amount of idling at fast food places, banks, dry cleaners across the country must be tremendous.

Ah hell, just raise the gas taxes to $1/L. Average price will be $1.,75 and that will encourage more people to park their cars (especially the escalades)

sounds like you take the bus, lets hope you never become premier

brunes
Oct 11th, 2007, 08:40 AM
sounds like you take the bus, lets hope you never become premier

It is not that bad an idea IMO.

- Add $1.00 / L surcharge to gas

- Add a gas tax rebate for lower middle-class families ( say household income less than $50K ) whereby you can get 100% of the tax back up to a maximum $1000.

This would allow 84L of month of tax free gas for most people. If you use more than that then you have to pay, because you are over-consuming.

Doing this would encourage more greatly people to buy fuel-efficient vehicles. The additional revenue could be used to fix up the deteriorating roads.

Chief
Oct 16th, 2007, 11:32 PM
It is not that bad an idea IMO.

- Add $1.00 / L surcharge to gas

- Add a gas tax rebate for lower middle-class families ( say household income less than $50K ) whereby you can get 100% of the tax back up to a maximum $1000.

This would allow 84L of month of tax free gas for most people. If you use more than that then you have to pay, because you are over-consuming.

Doing this would encourage more greatly people to buy fuel-efficient vehicles. The additional revenue could be used to fix up the deteriorating roads.

Just because one uses more than your arbitrary threshold of gas for a month, it does not make them an over-consumer. People commute varying distances to work, to school, etc. Owning a car is expensive enough in this country, and is a necessity for many people. And even if it isn't a necessity, people should be able to afford to drive.

st7860
Oct 16th, 2007, 11:54 PM
It is not that bad an idea IMO.

- Add $1.00 / L surcharge to gas

- Add a gas tax rebate for lower middle-class families ( say household income less than $50K ) whereby you can get 100% of the tax back up to a maximum $1000.

This would allow 84L of month of tax free gas for most people. If you use more than that then you have to pay, because you are over-consuming.

Doing this would encourage more greatly people to buy fuel-efficient vehicles. The additional revenue could be used to fix up the deteriorating roads.

exactly. a car is not a necessity. if someone chooses to live in a suburb far from their employment, that is not the problem of society to provide them with subsidised gasoline.

DaVibe
Oct 17th, 2007, 12:39 AM
I would ban all drive thrus. A lot of the time it would be quicker to walk in than be the 15th person in line in a car. The amount of idling at fast food places, banks, dry cleaners across the country must be tremendous.

Ah hell, just raise the gas taxes to $1/L. Average price will be $1.,75 and that will encourage more people to park their cars (especially the escalades)

I use drive-thrus all the time but you know what, for the reason of idiling, I'd be willing to give it all up. They SHOULD ban all drive-thrus.

twotterdhc6
Oct 17th, 2007, 02:38 AM
They SHOULD ban drive-thrus, but there is no way in hell the lobby groups will allow that to pass :mad:

jason9945
Oct 18th, 2007, 06:53 PM
exactly. a car is not a necessity. if someone chooses to live in a suburb far from their employment, that is not the problem of society to provide them with subsidised gasoline.

And what about the rest of this HUGE countries population that isnt in a Suburb or City..........