Which pickup has the best milage?

[frankeng2003]

Are diesels the best pickup in terms of milage? how many km/miles do you get on a tankfull? how about those which have been converted to propane? i 've a f-150. 110litres for both tanks, and it gets. 550km. is it normal?

[mau108]

8 cylinder

1. Chevy C15 Silverado Hybrid, A-4, 5.3L: 18 / 20
2. GMC C15 Sierra Hybrid, A-4, 5.3L: 18 / 20
3. Chevy C1500 Silverado, A-4, 4.8L: 17 / 20
4. GMC C1500 Sierra, A-4, 4.8L: 17 / 20
5. Chevy C1500 Silverado, M-5, 4.8L: 15 / 20
6. Dodge Dakota Pickup, A-5, 4.7L: 15 / 20
7. Dodge Dakota Pickup, M-5, 4.7L: 15 / 20
8. GMC C1500 Sierra, M-5, 4.8L: 15 / 20
9. Chevy C1500 Silverado, 5.3L: 16 / 19
10. GMC C1500 Sierra, A-4, 5.3L: 16 / 19
11. Chevy C1500 Silverado FFV, A-4, 5.3L: 15 / 19 (Gas)
12. Ford F150, A-4, 4.6L: 15 / 19
13. Ford F150, A-4, 5.4L: 15 / 19
14. GMC C1500 Sierra FFV, A-4, 5.3L: 15 / 19 (Gas)
15. Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup, A-5, 4.7L: 14 / 19
16. Nissan Titan, A-5, 5.6L: 14 / 19
17. Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup FFV, M-5, 4.7L: 14 / 19
18. F150 Pickup (bi-fuel), A-4, 5.4L: 14 / 19 (Gas)
19. Chevy C1500 Silverado, A-4, 6.0L: 14 / 18
20. Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup FFV, A-5, 5.7L: 14 / 18
21. GMC C1500 Sierra, A-4, 6.0L: 14 / 18
22. Toyota Tundra, A-4, 4.7L: 14 / 18
23. Ford F150, A-4, 5.4L: 13 / 16 (P S)
24. Ford F150 Natural Gas, A-4, 5.4L: 12 / 16 (CNG)
25. F150 Pickup (bi-fuel), A-4, 5.4L: 12 / 16 (Gas)
26. Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup FFV, A-5, 4.7L: 12 / 15 (Gas)
27. F150 Pickup (bi-fuel), A-4, 5.4L: 11 / 15 (LPG)
28. F150 Pickup (bi-fuel), A-4, 5.4L: 11 / 15 (CNG)
29. Chevy C1500 Silverado FFV, A-4, 5.3L: 11 / 14 (E85)
30. GMC C1500 Sierra FFV, A-4, 5.3L: 11 / 14 (E85)
31. Chevy 2500 HD Silverado, A-4, 6.0L: 10 / 12 (CNG)
32. Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup FFV, A-5, 4.7L: 9 / 11 (E85)


6 cylinder

1. Toyota Tacoma, M-5, 3.4L: 19 / 24
2. Ford Ranger Pickup, M-5, 3.0L: 18 / 23
3. Mazda B3000, M-5, 3.0L: 18 / 23
4. Ford Ranger Pickup, M-5, 4.0L: 17 / 23
5. Mazda B4000, M-5, 4.0L: 17 / 23
6. Ford Ranger Pickup, A-5, 3.0L: 18 / 22
7. Mazda B3000, A-5, 3.0L: 18 / 22
8. Dodge Dakota Pickup, A-4, 3.7L: 17 / 22
9. Ford Ranger Pickup, A-5, 4.0L: 17 / 22
10. Mazda B4000, A-5, 4.0L: 17 / 22
11. Dodge Dakota Pickup, M-5, 3.7L: 16 / 22
12. Nissan Frontier, A-4, 3.3L: 17 / 21
13. Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup, M-5, 3.7L: 16 / 21
14. Ford Explorer Sport Trac FFV, A-5, 4.0L: 16 / 21 (Gas)
15. Chevy C1500 Silverado, M-5, 4.3L: 15 / 21
16. Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup, A-4, 3.7L: 15 / 21
17. GMC C1500 Sierra, M-5, 4.3L: 15 / 21
18. Ford F150, M-5, 4.2L: 17 / 20
19. Nissan Frontier, M-5, 3.3L: 17 / 20
20. Toyota Tacoma, A-4, 3.4L: 17 / 20
21. GMC C1500 Sierra, A-4, 4.3L: 16 / 20
22. Toyota Tundra, A-4, 3.4L: 16 / 20
23. Toyota Tundra, M-5, 3.4L: 16 / 20
24. Chevy C1500 Silverado, A-4, 4.3L: 15 / 20
25. Ford F150, A-4, 4.2L: 16 / 19
26. Nissan Frontier, A-4, 3.3L: 15 / 19 (P T S)
27. Nissan Frontier, M-5, 3.3L: 15 / 18 (P T S)
28. Ford Explorer Sport Trac FFV, A-5, 4.0L: 12 / 16 (E85)

[Evil Techie]

That list is missing some stuff and got some wrong as well
for example

22. Toyota Tundra, A-4, 4.7L: 14 / 18
the 4.7L should be 15/18

Tundra 5.7L V8
381 HP 14/18 MPG

also these are US gallons
not imperial

[frankeng2003]

much appreciated. but what i'd like is real milage. with all the stop and go.

[Evil Techie]

much appreciated. but what i'd like is real milage. with all the stop and go.

that is real mileage
EPA's testing method is meant to duplicate real life driving styles
and its new 2007 and 2008 standards are even stricter so even closer to real life driving experience

[frankeng2003]

where is the diesel ones? and what do they mean by CNG or LPG. propane is sold in lbs. and the chart says 14/18 CNG. 14/18 lbs per mile?

[spf1971]

CNG is Compressed natural Gas
LPG is Liquid propane gas

[ghostryder]

8 cylinder

12. Ford F150, A-4, 4.6L: 15 / 19

9. Ford Ranger Pickup, A-5, 4.0L: 17 / 22


My sister's 2003 F150 4x4 4.6L V8 auto, Long box, super cab consistently averages 20mpg city / 25 hwy

And I used to own a 1993 Ranger 4.0 V6 auto(4sp) 2wd supercab that day in and day out got 17city/28hwy

[Spud72]

My sister's 2003 F150 4x4 4.6L V8 auto, Long box, super cab consistently averages 20mpg city / 25 hwy

Your sister had an absolutely amazing F150 then. I've never seen one (and we used them in fleets for years) that got anywhere remotely close to 20/25MPG, regardless of engine or diff ratio.

[VivienM]

Your sister had an absolutely amazing F150 then. I've never seen one (and we used them in fleets for years) that got anywhere remotely close to 20/25MPG, regardless of engine or diff ratio.

Are both of you talking US gallons or imperial?

I think 20/25 MPIG is doable... but 20/25 MPG (US) is not.

[seftonm]

A diesel probably won't save fuel over a half ton with a small V8. It makes much more power and has a lot more weight to move around. If the power or capacity of a 3/4 ton, get a diesel. Otherwise, stick with the half ton.

[gordholio]

To get Canadian (imperial) gallons, take the US mpg and add another 25% on top. (Since the US gallon is 128 oz and the Imperial gallon is 160 oz).
Example: truck gets 16 mpg US - add 25% (1/4 of 16, which equals 4) than add it together. You get 20 mpg.

[BobW]

Let's get back to basics... why do you drive a truck?

Seriously.... towing? hauling? just like a truck for a commuter vehicle?

The answer to your question depends directly on what you use the truck for. I switched from a F150 to a F250 Diesel and my mileage improved. I keep a 7000 lb trailer hooked up to it.

My personal vehicle is also a truck... why.. because I like to be up higher in traffic. Mileage sucks, but its a price I'm willing to pay.

[new_vr]

where is the diesel ones? and what do they mean by CNG or LPG. propane is sold in lbs. and the chart says 14/18 CNG. 14/18 lbs per mile?

I really don't think you buy the diesels to save money. You buy one if you need it for hauling stuff

[spf1971]

If you're doing heavy hauling it's best to buy buying a diesel. If you're not doing heavy hauling you'll still save some but you pay more for the diesel truck compared to gas, so it may or may not end up being a benefit depending on how much driving you do.

Why is everyone so concerned about converting imperial to US gallons? We buy our fuel in litres and if you see a mpg rating it will be in US gallons not imperial( unless you're getting your information from the UK)?

[VivienM]

Why is everyone so concerned about converting imperial to US gallons? We buy our fuel in litres and if you see a mpg rating it will be in US gallons not imperial( unless you're getting your information from the UK)?

Because window stickers on Canadian cars have numbers in both L/100km and in MPIG? And automakers' Canadian sites often quote both L/100km and MPIG?

Unless your MPG number comes from the US, it is quite likely to be MPIG...

[spf1971]

Because window stickers on Canadian cars have numbers in both L/100km and in MPIG? And automakers' Canadian sites often quote both L/100km and MPIG?

Unless your MPG number comes from the US, it is quite likely to be MPIG...

Every listing I have ever seen have been in US MPG. I have never seen an Imperial MPG listing. Are you sure the ones that you are seeing are Imperial?

[Spud72]

Every listing I have ever seen have been in US MPG. I have never seen an Imperial MPG listing. Are you sure the ones that you are seeing are Imperial?
Same here. I've never seen listings in Imperial gallons here either, always US. Not saying it couldn't happen, I've just never noticed it. Even in the pre-metric days US Gallons were the most commonly used when talking vehicles.

[gordholio]

Because window stickers on Canadian cars have numbers in both L/100km and in MPIG? And automakers' Canadian sites often quote both L/100km and MPIG?

Unless your MPG number comes from the US, it is quite likely to be MPIG...

MPG. It's just that our mpg is in imperial - it's not MPIG. :)

[gordholio]

Same here. I've never seen listings in Imperial gallons here either, always US. Not saying it couldn't happen, I've just never noticed it. Even in the pre-metric days US Gallons were the most commonly used when talking vehicles.

As I said before, all you have to do is add 25% of the US MPG figure to get Canadian MPG. Very simple. When I figure out my MPG, I always use Imperial gallons, since this was always used in Canada.

[frankeng2003]

i only use the truck for hauling stuff, and work. i don't like to use it. but sometimes i wonder if it is better to upgrade for better milage. my daily driver is a civic. as i like to save money.

[seftonm]

Transport Canada figures (and hence the numbers on stickers for new cars) have been in imperial gallons for as long as I can remember.

[spf1971]

Transport Canada figures (and hence the numbers on stickers for new cars) have been in imperial gallons for as long as I can remember.

Actually Transport Canada puts L/100km on new vehicles but you can find MPG on their website. I did the math and they do use imperial gallons. I always assumed it was US gallons that they were using. You learn something new every day.

[VivienM]

Every listing I have ever seen have been in US MPG. I have never seen an Imperial MPG listing. Are you sure the ones that you are seeing are Imperial?

Oh yes I am...

I remember a few years ago seeing highway numbers like 42 MPG for Nissan Altimas and wondering what kinds of drugs they were smoking. Then I realized that it's MPIG...

[VivienM]

MPG. It's just that our mpg is in imperial - it's not MPIG. :)

MPIG = Miles Per Imperial Gallon.

[spf1971]

Oh yes I am...

I remember a few years ago seeing highway numbers like 42 MPG for Nissan Altimas and wondering what kinds of drugs they were smoking. Then I realized that it's MPIG...

I wonder if they do that to make it look better? My car gets 42mpg(Imperial) but only 35MPG(US). That's according to ratings anyway.

[Evil Techie]

check out this post
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2948462&postcount=42

it seems like GM trucks are having a hard time meeting their EPA estimates

[VivienM]

I wonder if they do that to make it look better? My car gets 42mpg(Imperial) but only 35MPG(US). That's according to ratings anyway.

In the case of the window stickers, I think the government decides what units to use...

This is probably a "we are not Americans, so screw their units" thing... nothing more and nothing less.

[gordholio]

MPIG = Miles Per Imperial Gallon.

Imperial gallons were around long before the Americans changed their gallon to a different size. Wouldn't US MPG be MPUSG then?
I don't say MPIG, I just say MPG and it's imperial.

[Drthorne]

my 1998 2WD GMC 1/2 ton with a gas 5.0l V8 and 98litre tank... city driving I can get about 450-500km and highway I can get 750-800km on a full tank

[gordholio]

I wonder if they do that to make it look better? My car gets 42mpg(Imperial) but only 35MPG(US). That's according to ratings anyway.

No they don't do it to look better. The US gallon is 128 oz and the Canadian (Imperial) gallon is 160 oz. The Imperial gallon is the original gallon.

[frankeng2003]

my 1998 2WD GMC 1/2 ton with a gas 5.0l V8 and 98litre tank... city driving I can get about 450-500km and highway I can get 750-800km on a full tank

yes thank you, thats the type of info i want. no 14mpg. stuff. i find it more accurate when you come out with tank size, and km/miles per full tank. i guess i'm doing ok. BTW mines a 91 f 150(with a 96 engine. 5.0 litre v8.)

[VivienM]

Imperial gallons were around long before the Americans changed their gallon to a different size. Wouldn't US MPG be MPUSG then?
I don't say MPIG, I just say MPG and it's imperial.

You're right as a matter of principle.

But we have to be pragmatic. The Americans have appropriated MPG for their own gallon, so either you use MPG for both gallons and get horribly confused (as in this thread), or you compromise and use MPIG to identify the imperial one. If you say "my car gets 45MPIG", no one will be confused (and if they are, they'll just say "MPIG, wtf is that?"), but if you say "my car gets 45 MPG", most people will think you're on drugs because they'll think you mean 45 "MPUSG".

Why can't everybody use METRIC units anyways?

[spf1971]

No they don't do it to look better. The US gallon is 128 oz and the Canadian (Imperial) gallon is 160 oz. The Imperial gallon is the original gallon.


My point was : would you rather buy a car that got 42MPG or 35MPG? Canada is metric now ( even though a lot of us still use imerial) so the gallon could be stated using US or Imperial. A litre is a litre but a gallon is based on whatever system you want to use.

[Kanus]

As I said before, all you have to do is add 25% of the US MPG figure to get Canadian MPG. Very simple. When I figure out my MPG, I always use Imperial gallons, since this was always used in Canada.

Actually you add 20% to the US MPG figure to get MPIG.

There are 4.546 litres in an imperial gallon and 3.785 litres in a US gallon.

4.546/3.785 = 1.2

[gordholio]

Actually you add 20% to the US MPG figure to get MPIG.

There are 4.546 litres in an imperial gallon and 3.785 litres in a US gallon.

4.546/3.785 = 1.2

No no no. The US gallon is 128 oz. The Canadian gallon is 160 oz.
160 - 128 = 32
32/128 = 1/4
Therefore add 1/4 of the MPUSG to get MPG.

Updated: I got confused. The US ounce is different than the Canadian (Imperial) ounce.
So you're right, it is a 1/5 (or 20%) difference.