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tweakerxp
Sep 15th, 2007, 12:39 AM
So here's the deal. I'm in a service business and I have this client that needed a part replaced in a piece of equipment (it's like a $60 part) she (the business owner) verbally agreed to have this part replaced, and booked an appointment to have me come in and do it. I had told her not to turn the piece of equipment on, or there may be permanent damage.

The following day she calls me up an hour before her scheduled appt. I wasn't able to answer the call, but the message was along the lines of: "Oh, hey, you know I really don't think I'll be needing the part, the machine is running perfectly fine."

I call to advise her that it may be running fine now, but it will break very soon--I know she would be devastated to loose it. She agrees, and I call her back to schedule an appointment; she's not in so a message was left with her employee.

Next day I get a message from an employee: "(business owner) says the machine is running fine and doesn't want the part replaced, you can come in and pick up your payment for the service the other day.")

Now, being in the service business, I charge to cancel appointments (I could be using the time to schedule other appointments, I have to pick up the parts and pay for them, etc.) So I call back to advise of the charge (would have been an additional $56) Once again, she's "not in" and I have to leave a message."

She calls me back: "I understand we have a problem here."
me: "I don't believe we do, could you elaborate?" (or something along those lines)
her: "Well you want to charge me for something you haven't done, I never signed anything."
me: "You're right you didn't sign anything, but I do charge for cancellations, and your employee signed a TOS (terms of service) agreement on your behalf when you started using me as your service provider. She should have notified you of the charge" (As indicated on the TOS and verbally. The business owner was not in that day.)
her: "That will never hold up in court, you can talk to my lawyer about this, people cancel on me all the time and I don't charge them. CLICK."

Anyways, I just went down there (I was in the area anyways) and just got my payment for the first service call. I really don't want to deal with her gong crazy over something so measly. I would definitely say she was bluffing me--who contacts a lawyer over $60. Anyways, my question to you is: Would you contact a lawyer?

And yes, things I should have done differently:

1) Have the business owner sign the TOS (the original TOS was signed so long ago I had forgotten it was only an employee signature.)
2) Have the client sign an agreement to purchase the specific part at a specific price. (I do have the forms for this, but they're generally only used for residential customers and new bussiness customers.) I've never had an issue with a customer canceling on me before.

Kasakato
Sep 15th, 2007, 12:53 AM
No, your court fees will be 2-3 times that $60 before you even get to step foot in court. You can however invoice her for the $60, wither she pays it or ignores it is up to her.

Octavius
Sep 15th, 2007, 01:40 AM
Seriously, 60 bucks would be ridiculous. Here in Ontario it costs something like 50-60 bucks just to file a small claims court file yourself.

I say let it go and never do business with them again. Best (and really the only) thing that you can do.

van
Sep 15th, 2007, 06:28 AM
It's $150 in BC to file for small claims court, you represent yourself. And due to the very small amount, it wouldn't be worth any lawyers time to take on your case. The court fee being more then double what your suing for, not including your time in court, wouldn't be worth it. I would just blow it off and not deal with that business again.

Gee
Sep 15th, 2007, 10:14 AM
I would invoice her. Then send 2 more reminders for payment. After you send her 3 notices. You can send the file to collections.

This will not get you any money, but it will tarnish her credit rating.

It is not about the money, it is the principal. There is no chance you will do business with her in the future either way.

Canucklehead
Sep 16th, 2007, 07:18 PM
Chalk it up to experience and move on. You will have better processes in future. Don't burn any bridges. Take the high road. What goes around comes around.

Okay I could not think of any other cliches :)

CheapScotsman
Sep 17th, 2007, 02:06 AM
Well, It would be really nice to sue them, I don't think it would really be worth it for $50. even if you get the $50 and the court costs/filing fee; it won't pay for your time to prep the case AND attend court AND trying to get it claimed; you have better things to do.

I am working to start my own business and have been thinking a lot of customer service. I am coming to the conclusion that taking a very high road on the customer service approach is better not because that customer might decide to buy your product or use your service but because if they get GREAT service then they might pass your name on when somebody asks them ... Who do you get to do your computer servicing ... and THAT is the best way to get new customers; recommended word of mouth.

http://microisvjournal.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/how-to-deal-with-abusive-customers/

michelb
Sep 17th, 2007, 12:17 PM
Two more points to consider:

1) Even if you win in court, that still won't get you the money, you'll just have a judgement that she owes it to you.

2) Honestly, I don't think you'd win in court anyway; I don't think a judge would agree that you should get paid for a 'canceled appointment'. It's one thing if you showed up and weren't needed but if they canceled prior I suspect you'd get nothing for that. If you had a signed contract where they agreed to pay for canceled appointments maybe but even then maybe not. Also you might be able to get them to pay a small 'restocking' fee on the part (maybe 10%) but again without a contract agreeing to purchase it to being with, I don't think you'll get even that.

ullyeus
Sep 18th, 2007, 01:16 AM
last week I had to cancel someone coming into the office. I was still man enough (even with no contract signed) to pay him the $600 or so fee for the cancellation.

sucked but I felt it was reasonable for the work he lost/etc.

It's poor business and will give her a bad rep, I'd say for HER it's not worth the $60 and she should give it to you...

for you...invoice her a couple of times and don't deal with her again.

brute33
Sep 19th, 2007, 12:11 AM
agreed. i use dunn and bradstreet for my company

I would invoice her. Then send 2 more reminders for payment. After you send her 3 notices. You can send the file to collections.

This will not get you any money, but it will tarnish her credit rating.

It is not about the money, it is the principal. There is no chance you will do business with her in the future either way.